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Anonymous Wed 27 Mar 2013 01:23:40 No.424461 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>430577

Calling all Self-Employed/Entrepreneurial/Self-Supporting types.

I'd like to start this thread for a 'definitive' how-to make money, what do you do for money, general self business thread.

So all you guys that have legitimate businesses from real estate to e-commerce share your info, take questions, help out poorfags to start making money on the side or how to get into the business and also as I am interested in getting into side businesses

No pimps/porn stars/drug dealers.

I'm currently in the Construction/Green Energy industry as a General Contractor (GC) any questions relating to this field I can help.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Apr 2013 04:20:00 No.430473 Report

Quoted By: >>430476 >>430477

Where is McCarthy whe you need Communists crushed like the Ticks they are?
Whoever is raving about his anarcho-communist utopia can just fuck off to somalia where he can enjoy his week of actual anarchy until he gets shot by some warlord.

I which we could just sell those people that cause damage before getting evicted into slavery to repay what they rightfully owe.

fllaw

fllaw Fri 05 Apr 2013 04:21:12 No.430474 Report

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>>430461
>They failed because they were attacked. Anarchism will fail because your law, your arm of enforcement, will kill them.

wow man somebody really drank the juice

fllaw

fllaw Fri 05 Apr 2013 04:24:57 No.430476 Report

Quoted By: >>430730

>>430473
thats a little far man, but i'll say this:

i wish everyone could get what they want.

the anarchists can live in an anarchist society
the communists can live in a communist society
the capitalists can live in a capitalist society

lets check back in 20 years and see how everyones doing.

FYI, here's the anarchist country

fllaw

fllaw Fri 05 Apr 2013 04:25:59 No.430477 Report

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>>430473
and heres the communist one

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Apr 2013 04:30:30 No.430480 Report

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>>427146
>Reported

This takes me back to my Runescape days... Someone reported me for bug abuse... because "you're bugging me"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Apr 2013 04:43:09 No.430482 Report

Quoted By: >>430513

>>430469
>Can you not grasp the difference between thinking you are better than someone, and them not having the legal right to do something?
Yes, you have the legal right to evict people who have run out of resources.
This is different from you considering these people scum.
>That said, who is disagreeing with me?
I'm not the person arguing against property rights in general.
So, that's at least two people.

>regarding public school: fuck you. i went to a fucking D high school
>high school
>you're so full of shit man.
Wow. An anecdotal exception to a school system that is demographically failing.
You're the one full of shit, anon.

>if what the tenant is doing is ethically unsound, but i am also wrong, then what is the right thing to do?
To fight you and your client effectively, and not ruin the supply of rentable places for everyone else in their position.

>There is no strawman argument here. i have misstated nothing that you have said.
Yes, you have. "Your communism, you pink, your anarchist utopia." Even assuming I'm the other person arguing with you, saying "you can't solve anarchist or communist ethics in this thread, therefore you're wrong" is a strawman, because the claim wasn't made by me or the other person.

>what should i do/what is the right thing to do
Become a lawyer who defends tenants being abused by slum lords.
>what should the system look like
Do you mind if I avoid a question so broad?
>why is it wrong to enforce a contract
It's not wrong in itself, but when the contract is the only option available for a basic need, the contract is no longer voluntary.
>what would you do if someone tried to take your property
I'd act in my self-interest. But, depending on the circumstances, I'd lose an argument that I'm better than that person.

Gotta break up the post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Apr 2013 04:51:17 No.430486 Report

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>>430469
>astly, you jump to conclusions all over the place. you say that the tenants' behavior is unethical.
No explanation required. It should be self-evident.
>then you say that what i'm doing isn't right, but you don't say why. WHAT IS THE RULE.
Explanation required! Funny how this works.
Because, per your example of the mother, if the city didn't bail you out ethically, your job would be to get her thrown into the streets. Because the landlord's rent collection is a higher priority than another human being able to survive.
>what i'm doing isnt ethically unsound, its not illegal, and im 100% honest while doing it,
Only when strictly looking at this in terms of law.
>so any issue you have with my behavior is ideological/political.
Just like the notion that the people are scum if they don't decide to leave their only place they can live because they can't afford the rent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Apr 2013 05:01:27 No.430491 Report

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>>430471
>i'm not making any assumptions about what views you espouse. i also called you a communist and a socialist, since you have YET to say what the fuck you support.
Haha, just throw accusations until I volunteer to adopt one.
Pretty good.

>and my example was not a strawman. in a lawless society
Strawmanning again.
1) The argument isn't about whether anarchism is workable.
2) Lack of protection against the rules in an anarchist society is not typically a trait of anarchism.
3) Neither is lawlessness.

>wrong. he OUGHT to fill the same conditions i have.
In that case, I OUGHT to have found a place that was unoccupied, myself. I thought you were making an argument against how a system would work.
>but in an anarchist society, those rules dont exist unless you enforce them.
Just like in any other society. The means is different, is all.

>here, the landlord owns the building because he bought it. the squatter tries to take it but has no right.
By right of it being unoccupied, as described by the criteria YOU GAVE for your strawman, actually.
I just want to restate that my or the other anon's argument doesn't hinge on this argument you side tracked us into.

>what would you do, in the presumed absence of property laws, if someone tried to steal your fucking house?
The law would be what you described. Unoccupied territory. I would defend my property by the whatever protection the law afforded, and supplement what it didn't.

fllaw

fllaw Fri 05 Apr 2013 05:26:23 No.430503 Report

Quoted By: >>430506

Sigh. Nobody has provided an answer as to what I ought to do if I'm not right in evicting the person. That is the crux of this entire argument: that I am doing something wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Apr 2013 05:40:05 No.430506 Report

Quoted By: >>430520 >>430539

>>430503
There's an abundance of poor people whose landlords aren't fulfilling their requirements, and would do well to withhold payment in the meantime.
You could represent them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Apr 2013 05:41:30 No.430507 Report

Quoted By: >>430510 >>430542

>>430451
You're the only person I've seen that's disagreed that he's above the deadbeats.

I'm not saying I necessarily agree with his saying that, but I just thought you should know that we're all very aware that it's you arguing and no one else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Apr 2013 05:42:36 No.430508 Report

Quoted By: >>430510

>>430451
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I red this buk one tim abut mark sissum an I cammanast nu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Apr 2013 05:45:31 No.430510 Report

Quoted By: >>430525

>>430507
No, I'm at least the second person.

>>430508
>neo-libertarian argument tactics

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Apr 2013 05:46:42 No.430513 Report

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>>430482
You know, commie-fag, If you'd like to avoid confusion, this is sort of what trips are for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Apr 2013 05:54:23 No.430518 Report

Quoted By: >>430549

>Become a lawyer who defends tenants being abused by slum lords.
See, here's the problem; you can't expect anyone to take you seriously when you're fucking embellishing everything you post. Why is it necessary for flaw to change professions? Who's protecting the rights of the landlord? What would you say if the landlord allowed the tenant to squat, but stopped paying the power/water bill; should the landlord be expected to pay for these things, out of his own pocket?

>Do you mind if I avoid a question so broad?
Why? You've been rambling for pages. I'd offer a +1 on wanting your opinion here, because God knows no one outside of this thread does.

>The contract is no longer voluntary
I see the argument you're trying to make here, but the argument is just wrong. If you enter into a contract, except under duress, it is considered voluntary. That the alternatives to the contract may not be desirable does not make the contract any less voluntary. That you don't like how the contract works doesn't make it any less voluntary. My sister worked through school making 8 bucks an hour as a server. She couldn't afford a bunch of new clothes like she could when she lived at home. That she didn't like her situation didn't entitle her to be paid more by the proprietor of the business.

It's not a mark of political enlightenment to expect to be provided for; the great fallacy of anarcho-communists such as yourself is that they expect everyone else to provide for them without putting anything in, but they also refuse to accept the legitimacy of the state.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Apr 2013 05:55:36 No.430520 Report

Quoted By: >>430549

>>430506
Show me some examples of where this actually happens.

I'm not disputing that it happens, but show concrete examples. Documentation. I don't even give a shit if it's anecdotal, just show me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Apr 2013 05:58:33 No.430525 Report

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>>430510
Right, so you have... two, two people out of let's say, 20 that I've seen in this thread so far (discussing this, anyways).

You're on /diy/. If you want socialist, leftist politics, go to >>>/b/ or somewhere else with a high population of edgy teenaged faggots.

>Implying the economics of libertarianism aren't the natural order of things, as opposed to the anarchist views you're espousing which basically follow the logic of "Okay so no rules, except for, I have these rules you all need to follow or it's not really anarchism and it doesn't count"
>Itslikewatchinga6yearoldatrecess.jpg

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Apr 2013 05:59:08 No.430526 Report

Quoted By: >>430549

Well, the commie-fag succeeded, because the actually-interesting thread about capitalism is now finished.

Sad frog.

fllaw

fllaw Fri 05 Apr 2013 06:16:56 No.430539 Report

Quoted By: >>430559

>>430506
You know, I represent tenants as well. But here's the funny thing:

1 none of them can afford to even pay me minimum wage for my work. How am I supposed to make a living helping them?
2 none of these "abused tenants" come to the table with clean hands. i have never seen a tenant being evicted by a slumlord that also was not in the wrong.
3 i actually give tons of free advice on avvo and lawzam to people up against shitty landlords that cant afford an attorney. Ultimately they dont want the landlord to repair or abide by the lease, they are just looking for a way out and a free place to stay. Side note, tenants are given the option to terminate the lease if they fall behind but never take it.
4 im actually quite liberal in my political beliefs, a large part of what angers me is these people abusing gov. Assistance.

You said i ought to defend tenants against slumlords. That does not tell me how to act in this situation. You would have me withdrawl rep from landlord? He doesnt deserve an attorney?

fllaw

fllaw Fri 05 Apr 2013 06:22:04 No.430542 Report

Quoted By: >>430559

>>430507
I'm not better than the deadbeats because they can't pay rent, I'm better because I don't have such a sense of entitlement and I don't kick holes in walls when I don't get what I want.

That said people are people and I know everyone is capable of anything so I don't really think I'm inherently a better person, but I'm at least trying to be a better person than they are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Apr 2013 06:28:01 No.430549 Report

Quoted By: >>430557

>>430518
>See, here's the problem; you can't expect anyone to take you seriously when you're fucking embellishing everything you post.
The existence of slums that live in places that break code, and therefore can legally withhold rent is an embellishment.
No, the problem is that these people can't pay up front.
>Why is it necessary for flaw to change professions? Who's protecting the rights of the landlord?
It clearly isn't necessary. He is.

>except under duress
That's not the sole criteria for self-determination. A voluntary act has to be a choice. Lacking a choice, the act can't be considered voluntary.
Either way, this is just a side track, for you to be able to spam "commie commie commie," because I disagree that people being evicted are the scumbags in this scenario.

>It's not a mark of political enlightenment to expect to be provided for
It's also not a mark of intellectual honesty to frame another person's argument as this.

>>430520
Sure thing:
http://www.alternet.org/story/156192/major_rent_strike_against_millionaire_slumlord_catches_fire_in_brooklyn
Lawfag could do this:
http://www.larryhparker.com/practice-areas/other-areas-of-practice/landlord-tenant-law-slumlords/

>You're on /diy/. If you want socialist, leftist politics
Edgy teenagers tend to be Randian nigger-haters these days.
>Implying the economics of libertarianism aren't the natural order of things
Neo-libertarianism =/= libertarianism. Also, >>>/b/, >>>/pol/.

>>430526
>Well, the commie-fag succeeded, because the actually-interesting thread about capitalism is now finished.
No faggot. You're the one spamming responses.
Renting isn't /diy/, and as soon as the lawfag came in here making his exclamation about how poor people are scum, the thread was over.

fllaw

fllaw Fri 05 Apr 2013 06:36:24 No.430557 Report

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>>430549
OK, I'm not the one that derailed this. I was giving advice to anyone considering renting out a property as to the challenges of landlording. managing your own properties is certainly diy material.

If you don't even believe in capitalism or property rights, then you have the least to offer to a how-to-make-money thread, so just go away.

/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Apr 2013 06:39:10 No.430559 Report

Quoted By: >>430565 >>430570

>>430539
>How am I supposed to make a living helping them?
Hence, if you want to make money in the exchange, you have to represent the opposing side of this situation.
Hence, scummy job.
>i have never seen a tenant being evicted by a slumlord that also was not in the wrong.
You see the person as not just making a bad decision, but an ethically unsound one when they wreck not a landlord, but a slumlord's property?
Because that puts your position in an even deeper trench than I thought you'd go.

>Ultimately they dont want the landlord to repair or abide by the lease, they are just looking for a way out and a free place to stay.
Which they can get!

>im actually quite liberal in my political beliefs, a large part of what angers me is these people abusing gov. Assistance.
You mean the whole Social Security population boom thing?
Kinda unrelated, kinda related. But really that problem was designed to hide the permanent unemployment crisis we're in.

>You said i ought to defend tenants against slumlords. That does not tell me how to act in this situation.
Hmm.
>You would have me withdrawl rep from landlord?
If that representation is simply to get people out on the streets, it hard to fathom that no innocent people aren't going to get trampled by something like that.
>He doesnt deserve an attorney?
What he deserves is another can of worms.

>>430542
>I'm better because I don't have such a sense of entitlement and I don't kick holes in walls when I don't get what I want.
Maybe because you have the mind to fight in effective ways. But if you didn't, and what you wanted was simply the capacity to survive, you might find yourself lashing out wildly.

fllaw

fllaw Fri 05 Apr 2013 06:41:05 No.430563 Report

Quoted By: >>430567

A quick quote from that attorneys site:

Do your best to be a good tenant. Do your share and attempt to keep things as neat and clean as possible. You don't want to sink to the level of the slumlord. Making things worse will only hurt your case.
Do NOT withhold rent. Continue to pay your rent according to your lease or rental agreement. You do NOT want to give your landlord any opportunity to obtain leverage in the dispute.
Put your complaints in writing and send them to your landlord via registered mail, return receipt requested. The law prevents slumlords from retaliating against tenants who complain, and sending your complaints by registered mail is your proof that you have put your landlord on notice.
Save all the correspondence from your landlord that you receive. Start keeping a diary and take photographs.

Christ man youre

fllaw

fllaw Fri 05 Apr 2013 06:43:55 No.430565 Report

Quoted By: >>430569

>>430559
>Maybe because you have the mind to fight in effective ways. But if you didn't, and what you wanted was simply the capacity to survive, you might find yourself lashing out wildly.

This sounds like survival of the fittest to me. No problem there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Apr 2013 06:45:37 No.430567 Report

Quoted By: >>430575

>>430563
http://www.masslegalhelp.org/options-if-your-landlord-refuses-to-make-repairs

And from here:

>Tenants have a right to withhold rent because landlords are obligated to provide safe and habitable housing under the warranty of habitability. If a landlord breaks this obligation, a tenant's obligation to pay the full amount of rent stops until repairs are made. A tenant may want to withhold all or part of the rent, depending on the seriousness of the violations. The law does not state how much or for how long you can withhold.
>If you are considering withholding your rent, it is very important that you do it right.

Just another quick note.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Apr 2013 06:46:22 No.430569 Report

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>>430565
>survival of the fittest
>social darwinism
>liberal

No, you're definitely lawyer-minded.

fllaw

fllaw Fri 05 Apr 2013 06:46:26 No.430570 Report

Quoted By: >>430574

>>430559
>You see the person as not just making a bad decision, but an ethically unsound one when they wreck not a landlord, but a slumlord's property?

No, meaning that in order to be successful in defending an eviction by a slumlord the tenant cannot have breached the lease first.

So if tenant is getting evicted for nonpayment of rent for the last 3 months, it doesn't matter that landlord did not repair the stove that broke 2 weeks ago. If its the other way around, tenant is still in the wrong as you cannot withhold 2 months rent for a $200 problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Apr 2013 06:51:06 No.430574 Report

Quoted By: >>430578

>>430570
>slumlord
>neglecting property only after nonpayment
That's not what a slumlord is.
I'd be surprised that a lawyer would be so incapable of answering directly, except it's most likely tied to the very fact he's a lawyer.

fllaw

fllaw Fri 05 Apr 2013 06:52:02 No.430575 Report

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>>430567
Are you trying to teach me landlord tenant law?

I know what the rule is. It depends on the state and city. You have to provide notice before withholding. You can only withhold all rent when certain violations occur. You cannot commit waste. You have to hold it in escrow.

And you better be in the right because its the one type of eviction that tenant can't win if they haven't paid rent.

The point i was making is that even the slumlord tenant attny says dont withhold rent because its difficult to prove that you were in the right when doing so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Apr 2013 06:53:52 No.430577 Report

Quoted By: >>430581 >>430584 >>430594 >>430599

>>424461
Fllaw, I'm the guy who originally asked about renting out as supplemental income. Honestly, I regret that this commie faggot appeared and derailed the thread with a pointless argument.

Anyhow, I am having a bit of difficulty understanding your complaints. You say tenants damage property when they get a 24 hour notice. And you can't sue them? The cops don't go get them? They don't go to jail? They don't count as fugitives if they don't show up in court?

Really? I mean, I always thought that if in America I walk into someone's house, break their shit, and they find out it was me, I'll have to pay for repairs at best and go to jail at worst. a tennant damaging property is the same. In fact it even says in the contract that the deposit is taken to cover small damage, and if you do excessive damage you'll have to pay for it.

Also, what about only renting to people who can prove they are gainfully employed? Won't you filter out most deadbeats that way? (I know you will have to deal with deadbeats anyway, being an eviction lawyer, but it seems like the landlord can avoid many problems with a little foresight.)

Also thanks for giving your perspective on this. I was entirely unfamiliar with how eviction works and what it's like.

fllaw

fllaw Fri 05 Apr 2013 06:54:23 No.430578 Report

Quoted By: >>430581

>>430574
Did you even read the rest of the post?

How could I be more direct?

Ad hominem attacks, very good, getting defensive because you realize we see how full of shit you are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Apr 2013 07:01:33 No.430581 Report

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>>430577
>Also, what about only renting to people who can prove they are gainfully employed? Won't you filter out most deadbeats that way?
Every year 150,000 jobs are created, and 250,000 social security cases are approved. I'm certain you can see why it won't filter the deadbeats.

>>430578
>Did you even read the rest of the post?
Yeah, but the problem is that you aren't describing a fucking slumlord.
>How could I be more direct?
The question was about slumlords. You'd answer more directly by not talking about a landlord in general.

>Ad hominem attacks, very good, getting defensive because you realize we see how full of shit you are.
>Commie commie commie commie commie, you've got to explain how society would work otherwise, and when you do, we're going to say you derailed the thread.

fllaw

fllaw Fri 05 Apr 2013 07:03:41 No.430584 Report

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>>430577
thank you for rescuing this thread. heres how it goes in FLORIDA (ours is quick, some places take like 90 days):

1) april 1: 3 day notice. pay rent or surrender possession with in 3 days or we will evict. bunch of formalistic requirements, like payment has to be within the same county or you have to give extra time for a response via mail, etc. (which is in the code of civil procedure, not the landlord tenant law, so everyone fucks that up)
2) april 5: you draft a complaint, a summons, a certificate of service, and attach the lease and 3 day notice. you make certain numbers of copies of each and take them to the clerk of court. pay $185 filing fee + $10 for each summons. Count 1 (possession) and count 2 (back rent and damages) are 2 separate summons.
3) then you pay the sheriff $40 to serve the summons. this is official notice to the person that they are being evicted. if they cant find the person and give it to them face to face, they post it on the door. this would probably get served april 8.
4) they have 5 days from the date of service (excluding weekends and holidays) to answer the complaint. if nonpayment of rent is at issue, all rent due must be deposited with the clerk within 5 days. that means by the 15th.
5) april 16th: on the 6th day, if no answer is entered, or if an answer is entered but no rent deposited, i go get a default. the clerk declares the defendant in default (automatic win for me) then i go to the judge to get a default judgement.
6) judge signs the writ of possession, which is an order from the judge to the sheriff to kick the tenant out and remove everything from the property and put owner in control of it.
7) april 17th: sheriff posts writ on door with "24 hour notice" stamped on it
8) april 18th: 24 hours later he comes back and kicks them out.

so you can see how weekends and holidays intervene, along with the fact that the judges only hear ex parte m-th 9am-10am, so i cant get a default on a friday.

(continued)

fllaw

fllaw Fri 05 Apr 2013 07:13:39 No.430594 Report

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>>430577
OK so now that i've outlined the process, here are the problems. the problems occur after step 8. i get a writ, and a default judgement for possession only. then i can go back after the eviction and get count I adjudicated, which is for back rent and damages.
problem 1: while you can use alternative service on the eviction, you HAVE to personally service a money complaint. meaning, someone has to hand it to someone. if the tenant is avoiding service, or has been evicted and their current location is unknown, you can't serve them, and therefore cannot get a judgement.

problem 2) the cops do not go get them. they do not pass go. they do not go to jail.

problem 3) they dont have to show up for the eviction proceeding, they forfeit their right to object by not showing up. its not contempt, and its not a subpoena. its just a summons. i just win by default.

problem 4) yes you are legally liable for the damage. but getting blood from a turnip is another matter. even if you serve them, and get a judgement, if they are living off welfare, the court isnt going to approve a garnishment. you cant take money they dont have.

gainfully employed doesnt mean much. people lose jobs. people have drinking and drug problems. everybody lies. the other problem is that because these specific apartments are very cheap, and not particularly nice, if people can afford it, they go elsewhere.

the sad thing is that the property could be really nice for people that just dont have a lot of money but are good people. but instead we get drug dealers and prostitutes - literally, i am not exaggerating.

the cops are already overloaded with other shit. theyre too busy stopping the dealers from shooting people to worry about the drywall the dealer kicked in on his way out.

i found my neighbors front door kicked in, and literally they said "well theres a lot of calls with the storm and power lines and all, is this an emergency?"
>i was calling 911

fllaw

fllaw Fri 05 Apr 2013 07:18:05 No.430599 Report

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>>430577
also worth noting that i get hired by property management companies and landlords to clean up the mess when tenants go south.

they dont ask if its a good idea to put them in an apartment in the first place.

but yes, background screening is very important. security deposit is important. regular inspections are important.

so are gut instincts. and having a property that doesnt attract trash.

but so is having a good lawyer =)

fllaw

fllaw Fri 05 Apr 2013 07:40:25 No.430607 Report

Quoted By: >>430608

>>430259
going to bed kids, i have to go to work in the morning.
filing an eviction on a guy that hasnt paid rent in 2 months and is dealing heroin out of his apartment.

Tomorrow will be a good day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Apr 2013 07:43:55 No.430608 Report

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>>430607
Good night Anon, thanks again for the explanations. This helped me understand how legal procedure works for these things a lot better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Apr 2013 11:14:35 No.430730 Report

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>>430476
I know it's Detroit but it looks like Gotham City. Fucking awesome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Apr 2013 15:30:47 No.430801 Report

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wat

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Apr 2013 19:38:36 No.430894 Report

Quoted By: >>430908

>>430239
Unfortunately, no I am in Tennessee but you could technically work anywhere, am I right?

I'm the OP of this thread and I own a GC business and want to dabble in other things. I've had to use Lawyers and its hard to find a good one.

fllaw

fllaw Fri 05 Apr 2013 19:58:52 No.430908 Report

Quoted By: >>430914

>>430894
I'd be glad to help however I can but I am only licensed to practice in Florida. You can email me [email protected]<script type="text/javascript">
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Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Apr 2013 20:03:47 No.430914 Report

Quoted By: >>430934

>>430908
Thanks bud! That was going to be my next question if I could have an email to shoot to ya sometime. Plus, I love networking with people.

fllaw

fllaw Fri 05 Apr 2013 20:38:19 No.430934 Report

Quoted By: >>431163

>>430914
NP same here. i actually vacation up in NC outside of Clyde right by the Tenn. border, I love it up there.

oddly enough my GF's dad claims to do almost exactly what you do, GC green style, but he is a major tool, never paid child support, abandoned family, abusive, doesnt give a shit about them, started new family, etc.

i'm basically trying to figure out if he actually has money so i can help her family sue for the back payments, how is the green construction business up there?

def. shoot me an email, id be happy to help you with contracts and forms and whatnot, thats probably most of what you need, no? oh and permits shit lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Apr 2013 23:28:42 No.431015 Report

Quoted By: >>431016

>>428451

Some designs focused on Strippers as clients. The important issuse is knowing how to make clothes. Some sewing threads here are going to be useful.

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Anonymous Fri 05 Apr 2013 23:29:34 No.431016 Report

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Forgot the link. Sorry:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5s2gf8KUU0

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Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2013 02:56:45 No.431163 Report

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>>430934
I love the East Tennessee area and hope at some point to move over to that area -- absolutely beautiful there.

It's not that great anymore, for me anyhow. I did work with the state doing Weatherization projects in the West TN area but money dried up but had some real good years with it. Many of the so-called 'Green Contractors' here aren't very effective from what I've encountered. Lots of half-ass jobs. Is he a GC here in West TN? I could possibly know of him, if he claims to be. Recently, I've been doing more real carpenter work. I forgot how much I dislike it lol. I've been doing this work on and off since I was 16 (almost 26 now). My dad did it so I kinda followed suit and am ready to move to something different.

I've been contemplating getting into the real estate game. Property is cheap here and I've considered even going the 'slum lord' route (accepting section 8). It's just a toss-up for me to get involved just knowing that headaches that will come with it.

I know this is off-topic but did you enjoy Law School? I've always thought I'd be interested in becoming one. I don't think I'd be a good trial lawyer but more of the non-litigating type, maybe patent lawyer? I don't know. Any thoughts?

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Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2013 03:51:51 No.431174 Report

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what else you guys got

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fllaw Sat 06 Apr 2013 11:32:58 No.431393 Report

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He is in Virginia his name is Gary Gallagher it might be Garry.

Law school was great, and I love the practice, but it was a bitch. I interned with and started right out of law school with a personal injury firm run by the biggest asshole I've ever met, I'm so gladto be on my own.

Patent law is a very sspecialized field with extra exams and usually requires a technical background. I concentrated in tort and property. There is some litigation but I too prefer the parts of the law that avoid the courtroom. I really am interested in land planning but that's tough to get into. The sun rail project here in Orlando is a big deal and development is finally picking up again. Sorry to hear things are slowing down upthere.

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