A day after jumping into the Illinois Senate race, two-time presidential hopeful Alan Keyes ripped into Democratic rival Barack Obama, saying his views on abortion are “the slaveholder’s position.”
The conservative former diplomat said Obama’s vote against a bill that would have outlawed a form of late-term abortion denied unborn children of their equal rights. Both candidates — one an outspoken conservative and the other a favorite of party liberals — are black.
“I would still be picking cotton if the country’s moral principles had not been shaped by the Declaration of Independence,” Keyes said. He said Obama “has broken and rejected those principles — he has taken the slaveholder’s position.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5654128/
Anonymous
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i'll give Alan Keyes a 3/10
What if the fetus had the gay? Would conservatards still care?
Anonymous
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>>706930 Homosexuality is not genetic. It's caused by environmental factors.
Anonymous
Protip - Feminist pioneers were anti-abortion.
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>I would still be picking cotton
Anonymous
>>706943 >since i am a naive dumbfuck and easily manipulated by the media. fixt
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>updated 9:19 p.m. ET, Mon., Aug. 9, 2004
Anonymous
Sexy video clips influence young girls more than boys, study shows Anonymous Tue 19 Feb 2008 06:44:00 No. 706967 Report >>706950 Sexy video clips have a more negative influence on girls than on boys, says Dutch pop professor Tom ter Bogt. Ter Bogt investigated the influence of sexy video clips on the thoughts, behaviour and self-image of 13 to 16 year old children. After viewing the clips, girls felt that outward appearance was more important, they were less satisfied with their own appearance, and they became less resolute in denying permissive sex.
In his research Ter Bogt showed (censored) sexy videos from well-known pop-artists 50 Cent, Amanda Wilson ft. Freemasons, Nelly, NERD and David Guetta to a group of 250 children. An equally-sized group watched the concert performances of the same songs. After seeing the videos the girls in the test group felt more strongly that outward appearance was important for girls, and they tended to be less satisfied about their own appearances. Unexpectedly the videos did not affect the boys in the groups as much, their behaviour and self-image was more or less unchanged, contrary to previous beliefs that boys can be influenced by sexy videos to participate in group rapes.
Tom ter Bogt was instated today as professor at the University of Utrecht in pop music and youth culture. "There is no reason for a moral panic," Ter Bogt says, "young people need to experiment with sex. But these experiments must be based on equality between men and women, and the relationships in these videos are not based on equality. The clips undermine the self-image of young girls. When they start to define their identity with their looks, they may lose self-confidence, will perform worse in school, and will suffer more from eating disorders."
The conclusions of Ter Bogt are confirmed by research by U.S. psychologists, but also shows that parents have a major influence in their girls' self-image.
tl;dr - young cunts are easily influenced by video clips and will turn into loli whores on a heartbeat, while young boys won't.
Anonymous
why does anon care?
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>>706967 Not to mention grown-up cunts can be manipulated just as easy.
Protip - The cash they spend on beauty products is massive, to the point a year worth of it would be enough to solve global poverty for over 4 billion of people.
Anonymous
>>706967 more factors in play here than simply just what is being reported. learn to critical think k? thx
Anonymous
>>706967 >But these experiments must be based on equality between men and women, and the relationships in these videos are not based on equality. I wish I could shoot every single fucking liberal shithead in the face that think men and women are absolutely equal.
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Am I the only one sick and tired of the fucking abortion debate? Doesn't this fucking country have bigger problems? Fucking Alan Keyes...
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I don't understand why anon defends abortion so much.
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>>706988 Where do you live? I'll come to your door personally.
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Damn, Gordon Freeman really has sunk low. Alan Keyes was the employer the Gman was talking about? Shit.
Anonymous
Alan Keyes didn't win the Senate seat because he was a nigger.
Anonymous
>>706986 What else needs to be considered, you self-deluded idiot?
Women are dumb, easy as that.
Running an Beauty product ad is enough to make them buy it without even thinking about it.
Otherwise, why do you think they (beauty product industry) advertise it?
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>>707019 >Women are dumb, easy as that. That'll reverse Roe vs. Wade, bring that argument to court! (no, rly, don't)
Anonymous
>>707023 Who's Roe and Wade?
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Anonymous
>>707015 ALAN KEYES DIDN'T WIN THE SENATE SEAT IN ILLNOIS BECAUSE HE IS FROM FUCKING MARYLAND.
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>>707057 so you say the man who put rubber fist in my anus was homosexual
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Otherwise, why do you think they (boy toy product industry) advertise it?
Peep !!NGfhw4CpPQj
Listen to Alan Keys talk and research him. He is a über-catholic but he is a true catholic and a very intelligent, decent person.
Peep !!NGfhw4CpPQj
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>>706967 >50 Cent, Amanda Wilson ft. Freemasons, Nelly, NERD and David Guetta I stopped listening to current music in 2003. I can see I missed nothing.
BTW here's the video of Alan Keyes calling Neal Horsey, a pro-choice extremist, on his bullshit:
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>>707098 >Obama has no right to call himself a christian, he sold out to the über-liberal agenda. WUT.
Peep !!NGfhw4CpPQj
>>706988 >I wish I could shoot every single fucking liberal shithead in the face that think men and women are absolutely equal. Oh they say that, but actually they think women are superior and men are nothing.
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>>707118 So says the man dwelling in Mexico.
Peep !!NGfhw4CpPQj
>>707110 You can't be a real christian and be pro-abortion, gay marriage and all that liberal stuff. I am in favor of gay marriage but I don't call myself a christian.
I don't need to be a christian to be disgusted by abortion.
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Damn that Robbie Wade guy for legalizing abortion!
Anonymous
>>707110 sold out?
Shit, we're hoping he leads it.
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>>707123 >You can't be a real christian and be pro-abortion, gay marriage and all that liberal stuff. says who, a trolling atheist who has no real correlation with rationalism? gimmie a break. i've forgotten more about relgion than you'll ever know.
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>>707118 pretty much true IMO.
Peep !!NGfhw4CpPQj
>>707130 He has no principles of his own. He is THE most liberal senator right now and he dares to call himself a Christian.
>>707133 I was raised as a Christian, I know what Christianity is about and it has NOTHING to do with the über-liberal feminazi stuff Obama preaches.
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>>707150 your right. it actually re-enforces the "back to the kitchen, bitch" mentality men have today.
Anonymous
man, this wackjobs that wana keep telling us how we should stand moraly should be fucking locked up. If I wana kill myself with drugs, its my body and I should be able to do it as I see fit. If I wana have a abortion, its my body and you should mind your own fucking busness because a chunk of goo isnt a human life.
Anonymous
>>707150 actually as long as you believe in jesus as your personal lord & savior etc etc your personal beliefs on things like abortion/etc dont matter. it cracks me up when people think that some how if you're gay but pray to jesus you're still going to hell.
Peep !!NGfhw4CpPQj
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>>707157 Such a deep understanding of morality and life.
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>>707185 except jesus never protests the subject of homosexuality. the one thing he does preach is: love/respect everyone.
Peep !!NGfhw4CpPQj
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>>707185 If you have personal beliefs that go against what your church stand for you are going to hell according to them. That's like saying "as long as you believe in jesus as your personal lord & savior etc etc your personal beliefs on things like murder/etc dont matter"
Anonymous
>>707185 Is there a Gay Heaven too?
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>>706943 Second-wave feminists certainly weren't; they performed the abortions in their own community. Ever heard of calling "Jane?"
http://www.cwluherstory.com/CWLUFeature/TribTheater.html >>706980 Never again! Plus, don't you want to see Black babies terminated? Abortion equals less Black and Hispanic kids roaming around. Shouldn't that excite /n/?
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"But these people don't seem to care. Operation Rescue, what do you want me to do? SHOVE A COAT HANGER UP MY CUNT?"
" My abortions, numbering three, were in the pre-Roe '60s; that is, they were secret criminal acts driven by desperation and a reckless trust in the unknown. One image will suffice: a solitary young woman with not enough money in her pocket clutches a scrap of paper. She is in a Spanish-speaking city, in an unfamiliar neighborhood, and she does not know the language. When the gringa finds the shuttered house she is looking for she pounds on the door and cries, for this address is her last hope. A window opens and slams shut. Somebody opens the door. Ten minutes later she breathes deeply into the anesthetic, her life becomes her own again, and she will never learn her savior's name."
Naked AGression and Susan Brownmiller, respectively. Not names I'd expect you folks to know.
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Naked AGression and Susan Brownmiller, respectively. Not names I'd expect you folks to know.
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>>707199 Spoilers: despite what fairy tails your mother and father tell you, heaven doesn't exist for pathetic humans just yet.
Anonymous
When did Jesus talk against abortions and gay rights? I'm still waiting on that one, since being christians is such an antithesis to being liberal.
Anonymous
>>707194 He says the law of Moises is still valid. And that law categorically condemned homosexuality.
I love how moral relativists turn Jesus into whatever they want him to be.
>>707199 Not according to real christians.
Peep !!NGfhw4CpPQj
>>707212 His successors did and he said to listen to them.
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>>707218 >>707224 He also went against said laws and what said ancestors said. He went against them much more often than in favor. He risked his life to protect a prostitute, a full-fledge criminal, from her lawful execution.
But I'm sure that this one time where he said to listen to old laws was the most decisive thing about his life's teachings.
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>>707224 WUT.. no prophet, not even jesus, contests the subject of homosexuality. if it was that big of an issue, it would be in the 10 commandments.
>And that law categorically condemned homosexuality. except any modern scholar knows moses was not the author of the torah.
Anonymous
Christianity hates the gay because if you are gay you are not procreating and swelling the ranks of the faith, which should be your number one mission!
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>>707269 Now if you'll excuse me i'm going to go fap to women tribbing.
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>>707269 man, christianity is the best meme ever
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>women tribbing.
Peep !!NGfhw4CpPQj
OK we're getting off track here: This thread is about Obama and his thirst for dead babies.
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scissor me timbers
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>>707291 Article date:
>updated 9:19 p.m. ET, Mon., Aug. 9, 2004 Anonymous
Anonymous
>>707291 Well, I'm happy for any candidate that wants to fight population-growth and encourage self-determinism. Abortions on demand, abortions for all. Free condoms bins by fifth grade, and carpet-bomb with them daily in poor and innercity neighborhoods.
Anonymous
Alan Keyes is an Uncle Tom.
Peep !!NGfhw4CpPQj
>>707295 Are you saying he no longer feels that way? if so, he's a flip-flopper.
>>707299 FUCK YEAH ÜBER-LIBERALISM!
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>>707301 Alan Keyes is a butthurt Uncle Tom
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>>707305 FLIP-FLOP FLIP-FLOP FLIP-FLOP FLIP-FLOP FLIP-FLOP FLIP-FLOP FLIP-FLOP FLIP-FLOP FLIP-FLOP FLIP-FLOP FLIP-FLOP FLIP-FLOP FLIP-FLOP FLIP-FLOP FLIP-FLOP FLIP-FLOP FLIP-FLOP FLIP-FLOP FLIP-FLOP FLIP-FLOP FLIP-FLOP FLIP-FLOP FLIP-FLOP FLIP-FLOP FLIP-FLOP FLIP-FLOP
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Besides homosexuality, Leviticus also prohibits polyester and handjobs.
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>>707301 >and probably not hold up signs of fetuses outside abortion clinics. "I'm disgusted by porn.. so I'm going to roll in a TV and play a 1970's CJ Lang porn in front of adult movie stores."
>>707305 i think it's pretty obvious, stormfags and people like yourself hunt for anything obama.
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>>707299 Tell me again who is going to pay for all those abortions? Your condom bin idea wasn't bad I'm all for handing contraceptives around but to fifth graders? dude come on.
also, I think those making under 16k a year should be slaves to the states and made to work hard labor or something like that so i believe we should have a few poor people hanging around(not too high a number for them to revolt tho)
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anything you can do........... Anonymous Tue 19 Feb 2008 08:51:00 No. 707336 Report Quoted By:
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the original version was fraught with errors.
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ITT the Eurofags are laughing at us.
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And a woman shall lead them into the Promised Land.
Anonymous
>>707315 I was being highly sarcastic, and trying to reconcile my feminist and anti-authoritarian views with the racist and classist views of this board. I'm glad you fell for my trolling.
I would like to see unencumbered abortion, though, and I do think that both private insurance companies and Medicaid should be expected to foot the bill in entirety. I suppose you've never read Freakanomics, but suffice it to say, bringing unwanted children into this world is not in our collective financial interests. Yes, these kids who "escaped" abortion are quite likely to spend their lives rotting away either at Walmart or in penitentiaries.
Really, I think the State can afford to pay for abortions. Perhaps we'd just have to do without as many weapons, and abandon hopes for nuclear re-armament and space weaponry?
As for children? "Oh noes, I saw a condom, I suppose this means it's now a good idea for me to go and start fucking." It's a nice way to terrify parents, but kids really don't think like that.
I was kidding about 5th grade, but maybe 6th or 7th grade is a right time to start. Just leave a dispenser in each bathroom. If kids need them, they can go get them without embarrassment. I'm surprised 4chan isn't rallying to acknowledge and embrace childhood sexuality :D
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>>707348 For the Eurofags this window on the dregs of American humanity has to be quite teh chuckle.
Peep !!NGfhw4CpPQj
>>707311 >i think it's pretty obvious, stormfags and people like yourself hunt for anything obama. lmao I'm againt Obama therefore I'm a racist.
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>>707150 Christianity's basic tenants are very liberal. That the conservative party has the control of most so called "Evangelical Christians" is a sign that the Muslims are right about at least one thing, that the Christians have lost their way. Not that they are any better.
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>>707359 >therefore I'm a racist. notice the >and< you idiot. that separates the two.
Anonymous
>>707356 most of 4chan is still in the throes of "childhood sexuality".
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Jesus is Pro 2nd Amendment. My pastor told me.
Anonymous
Apparently the only way to avoid being a flip flopper is to stick adamantly to your views for your entire life and never reevaluate your opinions or change anything.
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>>707363 True, our community is largely composed of underage b& people. Still, pedophilia and ephebophilia are quite in vogue here and on other chan boards, though probably in large part for shock value and "lulz."
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who the hell wants to extend abortion limits to 36 weeks anyway?
Peep !!NGfhw4CpPQj
>>707373 He was a SENATOR, he needs to get his views straight.
>I'm pretty sure Obama's position on abortion is a current one ie One you agree on.
Anonymous
>>707392 So senators should be locked into their views and never change.
By his view on abortion I meant the full deal. Partial birth abortions and all.
Personally, I doubt many women who don't want kids will keep it 36 weeks. The only people who get ones that late would be due to emergency or otherwise extreme circumstances.
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>>707373 My mom is a saint
Peep !!NGfhw4CpPQj
>>707396 >The only people who get ones that late would be due to being dumb whores. Fix'd
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>>707392 >ie One you agree on. That's how voting general works..
Peep !!NGfhw4CpPQj
>>707407 Your opinion doesn't invalidate other people's opinion.
Anonymous
>>707403 Whores generally use protection. Dumb whores would generally get it at the first signs of being pregnant. If they miss the fact they are pregnant for the duration (which has happened) I think they should be allowed to get an abortion still.
You have no idea who gets late term abortions. Neither do I. However, I'm betting that most women know whether they want kids or not within the first week or so that they know they are pregnant. The procedure, while still painful, is easier in early pregnancy as well.
Anonymous
Abortions at any time. Don't kill it intentionsally, just take it out and if it survives then so be it. No one can dictate what you can or can't do with your body. That's why rape is illegal.
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>>707425 He's a Mexican for one.. I doubt he knows anything outside what hears from /n/ and Hollywood movies.
>>707420 irony?
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>>707420 . . . Who said it does? However, opinions aren't all created equal. The ones who say Evolution occured and the ones who say God made the Earth 6000 years ago both have opinions, but one has more weight than the other.
Abortion is, obviously, a much trickier issue, but I think that the benefit to society as a whole far outways any moral concerns. Morals, after all, being for the general benefit of society, and when they stop being beneficial they should be left.
Anonymous
>>707420 It does if you know whats best for people more than they do.
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>>707427 even when her kanga is short?
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Wait... What classifies as 'late term'?
Peep !!NGfhw4CpPQj
>>707427 >No one can dictate what you can or can't do with your body. How about THE GOVERNMENT?
They can put you on a uniform and ship you off to war should they want to, you can't legally do drugs nor commit suicide, you can't decide squat about a medical procedure if you're not an adult and if you commit a crime they take your freedom away.
My point is: Yes, the goverment CAN tell you and legislate what you can and can't do with your body, so your point is moot.
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>>707440 Oh and the government does that all the time as well.
Anonymous
>>707442 Third trimester IIRC. 36 weeks is what we are talking about.
The idea of a woman getting to her 8th month and THEN having an abortion for anything but a really pressing reason is pretty remote, IMO.
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>>707444 >My point is Your point doesn't matter Pepe. You're not an American citizen. You're probably responding to yourself anyway.
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>>707454 Don't overestimate women.
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>>707454 >36 weeks is what we are talking about. Sorry, I'm not religious, but that's fucking barbaric. It ceases to be a religious matter and becomes a matter of secular ethics at that point.
Anonymous
>>707444 Most criminal acts are due to endangering or straight up harming another human being. Crimes that aren't like that (drug use laws) are bullshit IMO.
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>>707459 Those are very rare situations. Account for less than 1%.
Anonymous
>>707444 I thought conservatards hated governments telling people what they can do. Or does that only apply to men?
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>>707461 Then that 1% are fucking barbarians.
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>>707467 They have to go through some sort of court decision for this.. it's not like.. "hey,.. i want this perfect child that i'm not going to have problems giving birth too pulled out with a coat hanger"
Peep !!NGfhw4CpPQj
>>707455 >BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW I HAVE NO MORE "ARGUMENTS" BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW >>707459 Finally some common sense.
>>707460 You could make an argument as to why drugs should be illegal, but that isn't the point. You could make an argument for almost ANYTHING being illegal.
>>707466 All governments tell people what to do. Even the most conservative governments make citizens pay taxes for example.
>>707467 True.
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KILL THE CHILDREN.
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>>707470 Still barbarians.
Anonymous
>>707466 Only when it comes to hating niggers and owning all the guns you want. Smoke pot or have or give an abortion and the government has the right to put you in prison for life. A prison where you will be raped repeatedly without consequence. Because prison rape is funny and you deserve it anyway.
>>707467 You can't think of any reason why there should be a 36 week abortion? Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if that 1% was made up of mainly medically necessary abortions, and the rest due to extreme hardship (if you have two kids and are a stay at home mom and lose your husband, you're kind of screwed).
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>>707466 conservatives also hate government spending, unless it's on a war
They also hate giving money to the poor, but love giving it to corporations for "economic growth."
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>>707392 he's still a noob but that's one of his best assets.
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>>707475 You could make arguements about why drugs and abortion should be illegal, but I don't think there are any good ones. Harming a SEPARATE human being, or putting them in danger, that's what the law is there to prevent. Anything else is excessive.
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>>707484 >You can't think of any reason why there should be a 36 week abortion? Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if that 1% was made up of mainly medically necessary abortions, and the rest due to extreme hardship (if you have two kids and are a stay at home mom and lose your husband, you're kind of screwed). There comes a point where you have to take account for your own actions.
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>>707475 wut
>>707479 i'm still unsure if third trimester abortions still exist.
Anonymous
>>707494 Your own actions? Discovering a life threatening medical condition is your own actions? Developing some severe mental condition is your own actions? You should have to die at that point because you decided to have a kids 8 months prior?
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Is this what /n/ has turned into? Abortion? Let's all talk about how sick we find it! So you think killing babies is wrong and disgusting, how courageous of you to proclaim that. Get over yourselves.
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>>707519 Stop tailoring hypotheticals to fit your own argument.
Abortion is the coward's way out.
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>>707539 don't evade the question
