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Anonymous Thu 27 Dec 2012 03:30:33 No.426741 View View Reply Original Report

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ITT: Post cool trains.

Latios !4KpOkeMoNY!!d1SMd2T44aD

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Latios !4KpOkeMoNY!!d1SMd2T44aD Sat 29 Dec 2012 11:05:36 No.427583 Report

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>>427580
Exactly, along with the developers. If I can dig it up, the plan was proposed in the 90s as well but knocked back after fierce opposition

In another world...
I would really like to see the monstrous elevated shinkansen stations in person
As well as the longest ones in the world

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 29 Dec 2012 11:14:00 No.427584 Report

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>>427579
Is it just this section? Without knowing the situation on the ground, that looks like replacement may be viable if appropriate facilities are put in at Wickham to make it a proper terminus.

Latios !4KpOkeMoNY!!d1SMd2T44aD

Latios !4KpOkeMoNY!!d1SMd2T44aD Sat 29 Dec 2012 11:52:02 No.427592 Report

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>>427584
Yes it'd be along there. The cost is a very large chunk and they might not even rip it up but rather cover it should the federal government reject the bill to actually close the line. They've also constantly given hints that it will eventually go to developers. It's just that they've gone out of their way to draw attention away from it as much as possible. They also talk about trams, maybe that might work but the place would need growth.
Oh well, we still have several years to go

We'll see what happens. It's just that right now the railway isn't really dying

Latios !4KpOkeMoNY!!d1SMd2T44aD

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Latios !4KpOkeMoNY!!d1SMd2T44aD Sat 29 Dec 2012 11:59:43 No.427593 Report

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Anyhow, back to the cool trains

Anyone got a picture of the full length of the L0 prototype? Pretty much all pics only show the end car

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Anonymous Sat 29 Dec 2012 16:53:48 No.427647 Report

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>>427374
I have been working on an n scale model train layout for about 6 months now..been planning on buying stuff to model prototypical modern u.s freight from 80's to current...recently i discovered the amazing and colorful Japanese models from Kato and its all over..so much for prototypical, but these things are just to cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Dec 2012 20:28:03 No.427659 Report

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The best fucking train ever created:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqYkVCo24us

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Dec 2012 21:23:09 No.427665 Report

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>>427581
You would need some seriously banked curves if you wanted that thing to go around a corner without causing a disaster lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Dec 2012 21:25:59 No.427666 Report

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>>427647
Kato makes nice stuff when if comes to Japanese models. They tend to fall flat with Us steam locomotives though. I've always wanted to make a model layout, but I haven't the room. I just have a small NYC 2-6-0 set in N scale.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Dec 2012 21:34:54 No.427667 Report

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>>427659
what on earth is that? dat propulsion.....

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Dec 2012 21:37:48 No.427668 Report

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>>427667
R1-9 Holiday Train, a set of 8 cars from a massive 1600+ order of cars made for the NYC subway from 1932 to 1939. They run the train in service every sunday in december (and the last sunday in november some years).

There's another 3 cars on NYC Subway property that are not in the train, 1 is undergoing restoration, the other two are in not-so-great condition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Dec 2012 21:50:26 No.427670 Report

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>>427582
Yes

>>427665
>3 m gauge
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breitspurbahn
Hitler: the ultimate trainfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Dec 2012 21:57:18 No.427671 Report

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>>427670
So the trains would run on two sets of rails?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Dec 2012 22:00:38 No.427673 Report

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>>427671
two rails, 3 meters apart

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Dec 2012 22:06:17 No.427676 Report

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>>427673
My god.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Dec 2012 02:31:36 No.427703 Report

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>>427676

Kinda like this..

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Dec 2012 03:02:20 No.427713 Report

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>>427703
That's just ridiculous. Ambitious though.

fakum

fakum Sun 30 Dec 2012 03:25:31 No.427720 Report

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That's the gun Dora.
Strictly speaking it's not a train, the tracks (a big half circle was laid at the site only for this purpose) are only used to aim the gun...

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Anonymous Sun 30 Dec 2012 04:04:57 No.427731 Report

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>>427703

Reminds me of the 1,500 ton gun they were planning.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landkreuzer_P._1500_Monster

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Anonymous Sun 30 Dec 2012 04:06:06 No.427733 Report

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>>427731

Here's the 800mm shell it would have used next to a Soviet T-34 tank.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Dec 2012 04:56:46 No.427740 Report

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Anonymous Sun 30 Dec 2012 09:41:26 No.427843 Report

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>>426823
Here's the original photo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Dec 2012 10:15:32 No.427858 Report

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>>427843
Why is that photo so prevalent over the Japanese internet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Dec 2012 10:33:04 No.427859 Report

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>>427858
phallic and red.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Dec 2012 20:45:41 No.428020 Report

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>>427575

An insightful post. I think most of the hate Beeching gets isn't directed at him solely, but at the government at the time as well. Beeching became the face of the closures, regardless of true cause.

Of course many people are unwilling to admit that in the face of road and air competition, many lines could not stay open without heavy social funding. Now I don't believe rail transport should make profit it's primary goal, but some lines just can't be kept open with such low passenger numbers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Dec 2012 23:03:56 No.428041 Report

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>>428020

And it also shouldn't be forgotten that rail was perceived as a past technology, and declined steadily until the late 1980s. It's only since late BR/privatisation that it really turned around, and only last year did we record the greatest number of passengers in history, finally surpassing the figures of the 1930s and 40s.

It didn't help that the government systematically made rail difficult to travel on (for example, branch lines were scheduled to arrive 5 minutes after a connecting service left etc.).

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Anonymous Sun 30 Dec 2012 23:48:48 No.428061 Report

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>>426786
Or you could kill yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Dec 2012 23:49:47 No.428063 Report

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>>427843
no man that's just a rectangle train in exactly the same spot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2012 00:39:47 No.428078 Report

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>>428061
Janitor, this is Gordon, please delete the post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2012 00:43:57 No.428083 Report

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>>428078
Don't you know? EVERYONE is Gordon!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2012 00:56:52 No.428087 Report

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>>428078
HEY! It's not my fault steam punk is rubbish. At least I contributed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2012 02:05:05 No.428109 Report

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>>428020
Indeed. The whole point of having a public service is to serve a public need. A good number of very rural routes saw fewer passengers than journeys. Many of the closures were averted politically - such as the famous case of the Heart of Wales Line, where Marples was told "You can't close that, it runs through seven marginal constitutencies!"

Some of Beeching's insights were entirely sensible. The ruling theme in the recommendations was that the railways should focus on what they do best rather than on things they can't compete on. People hating on the report usually haven't seen any of the data. I should probably dig through it again to find some of the more bizarre numbers, such as the time that freight wagons spent sat around doing nothing.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2012 06:32:13 No.428179 Report

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>>428109

But you have to remember that much of the data was manipulated. For example, passenger numbers were reduced by placing connecting services to leave before the branch lines arrived, they took the data from the middle of the day rather than the peak (which hit hard on many branch lines where people commuted to the big cities) etc.

Marples knew exactly what he wanted and how to get it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2012 10:40:39 No.428251 Report

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>>428179
>passenger numbers were reduced by placing connecting services to leave before the branch lines arrived
Going to need a source on that. I mean, I suspect the Midland did this to get petty revenge on the old enemy, but I can't believe that BR would have taken that sort of order.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2012 11:30:57 No.428267 Report

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>>428083
STOP POSING AS ME OK

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Dec 2012 15:14:17 No.428304 Report

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>>427545
I fail to see how streamlining would serve any less purpose back then than it does now.

It's not like the properties of the atmosphere or the principles of air resistance have changed at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jan 2013 02:44:09 No.428378 Report

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Image limit.

Archive?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jan 2013 02:54:12 No.428383 Report

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>>428378
Go for it. It has been my first successful thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jan 2013 02:55:42 No.428385 Report

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>>428378

Definitely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jan 2013 03:14:33 No.428386 Report

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>>428383

Come on, do the requests on chanarchive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jan 2013 04:35:19 No.428396 Report

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>>427047
It is known as a Wooten Firebox, they were designed to burn low quality coal. To make up for this the design increased the firebox size to increase the heating area. Most engines having these also had Camelback designs,
>>426796
is an example of one. They were built that way so the engineer could see the track ahead, the fireman got the short end of the stick being in an open air cab exposed to the elements.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jan 2013 05:21:27 No.428414 Report

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>>428396
I've actually head stories of firemen getting mad at the engineers, and jumping ship mid transit. I also know that the driver rods would break and most time drive straight through the bottom of the engineer cab.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jan 2013 05:53:38 No.428415 Report

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>>428386
Need just one more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jan 2013 06:10:06 No.428420 Report

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>>428386
>>428415

Mission accomplished.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jan 2013 09:23:55 No.428459 Report

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>>428414
>and most time drive straight through the bottom of the engineer cab.
ohhh god that sounds freaky as shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jan 2013 09:27:50 No.428462 Report

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>>428459
It was fatal most times. The Camelback was not a good design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jan 2013 20:41:17 No.428532 Report

Quoted By: >>428901

love all these trains... especially the steam locomotives!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Jan 2013 09:10:30 No.428901 Report

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>>428532
bumpin'

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Jan 2013 09:18:51 No.428905 Report

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>>428901
This thread has hit the image limit, bump the new thread currently on page 2 you fucking tardlet

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Anonymous Fri 04 Jan 2013 22:18:19 No.429412 Report

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>>428905
link to the new thread plz?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Jan 2013 00:03:59 No.429456 Report

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>>429412

>>428096

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