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sage rage !3I4SJbCh8M Sat 29 Nov 2008 15:01:00 No.303534 View View Reply Original Report

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good evening /p/

I just got back from a family reunion. My great-grandfather, rest his soul, has passed on his old camera gear posthumously.

Turns out he was a nikonfag as well! I am rather stoked and thought you'd like to see it...

Body:
Unknown Nikon, anybody?

Lenses:
Nikkor 50mm f2.0
Vivitar 90-230mm f4.5
Topman MC 135mm f2.8
Carl Zeiss Macro JenaZoom 70-210mm f4.5-5.6

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Nov 2008 15:10:00 No.303537 Report

Quoted By: >>303546

looks like a ftn to me. shit will still be working when you die cabron.

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sage rage !3I4SJbCh8M Sat 29 Nov 2008 15:33:00 No.303546 Report

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>>303537
you rock. google images confirms it is of the FT family tree, making it very likely a 60's camera, maybe 70's but doubtful.

i can mount the lenses on my d80 just fine, one of them has a touch of mold but the rest are in good shape. not sure if any of them will work outside of full manual tho...

the flash is a little puzzling tho, it appears to not have any control over the output level and thus blows the shit out of any highlights. does anyone have any idea how i could control the power/outup level?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Nov 2008 16:12:00 No.303558 Report

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>>303546
>does anyone have any idea how i could control the power/outup level?

Use aperture of the lens to control the amount of light. That's how it was done before variable-power flashes were invented.

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sage rage !3I4SJbCh8M Sat 29 Nov 2008 18:06:00 No.303601 Report

Quoted By: >>303602 >>303604 >>303916

>>303558
I can almost get proper exposure on f22 at 1/250 with the exposure comp jacked way, way down... not sure how to squeeze any less out of it (see image)

also, i got this vintage kodak machine... any good?

11Equipment MakeNIKON CORPORATIONCamera ModelNIKON D80Camera SoftwareCapture NX 1.3.4 WMaximum Lens Aperturef/1.7Sensing MethodOne-Chip Color AreaColor Filter Array Pattern864Focal Length (35mm Equiv)75 mm111Image OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution300 dpiVertical Resolution300 dpiImage Created2008:11:29 23:59:26Exposure Time1/250 secF-Numberf/22.0Exposure ProgramManualISO Speed Rating800Exposure Bias-5 EVMetering ModeCenter Weighted AverageLight SourceUnknownFlashNo FlashFocal Length50.00 mmComment(c) Joel DevlinColor Space InformationsRGBImage Width1000Image Height654RenderingNormalExposure ModeManualScene Capture TypeStandardGain ControlLow Gain UpContrastHardSharpnessHardSubject Distance RangeUnknownISO Speed Used800Color ModeCOLORImage QualityRAWWhite BalanceAUTOImage SharpeningMED.HFocus ModeAF-AISO Speed Requested800AE Bracket Compensation0.0 EVTone CompensationAUTOLens TypeUnknownLens Range50.0 mm; f/1.8Auto FocusDynamic Area, Center Selected, Bottom FocusedShooting/Bracketing ModeSingle Frame/OffColor ModeLandscape sRGBLighting TypeNATURALNoise ReductionOFFCamera Actuations5982Image OptimizationCUSTOMSaturation 2ENHANCED1

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sage rage !3I4SJbCh8M Sat 29 Nov 2008 18:08:00 No.303602 Report

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>>303601
lol... i might try a lower iso for starters. i forgot i had auto on

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Anonymous Sat 29 Nov 2008 18:12:00 No.303604 Report

Quoted By: >>303613

>>303601
>I can almost get proper exposure on f22 at 1/250 with the exposure comp jacked way, way down...

Wait, wut? Where did the exposure compensation come from? You should be shooting in full manual mode with the shutter speed fixed somewhere between 1/30-1/200 (the shutter speed is usually irrelevant as long as it's slower than the max. flash sync speed - usually 1/160-1/250 for DSLRs). Also bear in mind that these flashes aren't supposed to be used for close subjects, so if you're trying to shoot some stuff on your desk, you'll get overexposure no matter how you try.

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sage rage !3I4SJbCh8M Sat 29 Nov 2008 18:25:00 No.303613 Report

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>>303604
protip: you can still adjust exposure compensation in full manual... which funnily enough, is also the easiest mode to set 1/250th at f22...

which might be why I attached the exif...

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Anonymous Sat 29 Nov 2008 18:56:00 No.303632 Report

Quoted By: >>303638

>>303613
>protip: you can still adjust exposure compensation in full manual... which funnily enough, is also the easiest mode to set 1/250th at f22

Please tell me you're not really that retarded.

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sage rage !3I4SJbCh8M Sat 29 Nov 2008 19:09:00 No.303638 Report

Quoted By: >>303644

>>303632
sorry, I'm still not follwing...

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Anonymous Sat 29 Nov 2008 19:21:00 No.303644 Report

Quoted By: >>303905

>>303638
"Exposure compensation" is a correction applied to automatically metered exposure. Full manual mode has no automatically metered exposure by definition, so I have no idea what the fuck you are adjusting there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Nov 2008 19:24:00 No.303645 Report

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exposure comp? If you're using a manual flash, your camera must also be on manual.

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ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA Sat 29 Nov 2008 19:37:00 No.303647 Report

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Assuming that Nikkormat still has a working battery in it, the meter doesn't actually turn on until the frame-advance lever is pulled out a bit (not enough to advance the frame, just so it's not flush with the camera body).

I tell you this because it took me an embarrassingly long time to figure that out on mine. I assumed the meter was intermittently broken for months.

(If the Nikkormat doesn't have a working battery, http://www.criscam.com)

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sage rage !3I4SJbCh8M Sun 30 Nov 2008 04:39:00 No.303905 Report

Quoted By: >>303910 >>303917

>>303644
So exposure comp in full manual is a useless adjustment? That's a shame, I wonder why it's still available then. I assumed that it gave you a lighter/darker exposure without having to change your aperture/shutter.

Anyways, I'm getting acceptable results after the ISO revelation. Thanks very much ac for the link, I had no idea I'd need an adaptor for the battery in the FT.

(crappy test pic taken using Carl Zeiss 70-210mm and Starblitz Flash)

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ac !!VPzQAxYPAMA Sun 30 Nov 2008 05:08:00 No.303910 Report

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>>303905
Every camera I've used disables "exposure compensation" per se when in manual mode. Or, rather, whatever control was used to control EV comp is just used to control one of the settings.

E.g., on my 40D, the rear wheel is EV comp normally but turns into aperture control when I'm in Manual mode. The XTi only had one wheel, so EV comp was button+wheel, and in manual mode button+wheel controls aperture.

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sage rage !3I4SJbCh8M Sun 30 Nov 2008 05:27:00 No.303916 Report

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>>303601
Turns out this beast is a Kodak Colorsnap 35 v1. A lot of the marking have worn off the softer metal dials, especially the marking on the top left dial. Should I slap a roll of film in it /p/?

>>303910
Looks like my Nikon was telling me fibs then. Cheers for the info, exp comp makes a little more sense now!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Nov 2008 05:27:00 No.303917 Report

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>>303905
I *think* (I haven't touched the stuff since I thought the "P" on the mode dial of a Canon P&S meant "Photographs" and the "M" meant "Movies") it biases your meter, but I'm not sure.

If you look at David Alan Harvey's EXIF, at least on his D300 (can't remember for any of his other cameras), it's always set to -something, and it's usually in manual mode, often set to spot metering, which is consistent with how Harvey would always meter an area of highlight on his manual film cameras and use that.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Nov 2008 05:32:00 No.303920 Report

Quoted By: >>303921

>>303914

Obviously. Unless you're dirt poor and film is a rare, rare treat for you to come across.

Pretty much any camera that comes my way, no matter how much effort it takes to get it to work, has at least a few pics taken on it.

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sage rage !3I4SJbCh8M Sun 30 Nov 2008 05:36:00 No.303921 Report

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>>303920
But I'm a complete noob when it comes to film... And the controls on this thing are a bit archaic and scary...

Fuck it, you're right, I'll go buy some rolls tomorrow... Any suggestions as to what film I should be buying to get the most love out of the Kodak and the Nikon without breaking the bank?

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AmbientAlchemy !!7p/FL19nuol Sun 30 Nov 2008 05:46:00 No.303930 Report

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>>303921
You will fucking love it, you lucky bastard you.
Sorry about your great grandfather of course..

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Serenar !m827jEgWi. Sun 30 Nov 2008 06:13:00 No.303936 Report

Quoted By: >>303947

Wait, what? The Nikkormat FTN has no way to set exposure compensation because it has no autoexposure modes. What exactly are you setting when you think you're setting exposure compensation?

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sage rage !3I4SJbCh8M Sun 30 Nov 2008 06:40:00 No.303947 Report

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>>303930
He lived a full life of 98 years and was still living on his own in his own house til he passed. He would have loved /p/, he was definitely an old school /p/ervert.

Now I'm actually excited about loading these babies up... Will I need anything special as far as film for the FT? Also, there was a very old roll in the kodak which I took out and wrapped in black cardboard... I'm hoping there are a couple of shots that can be developed, but who knows what was taken on there?!

>>303936
You are most certainly correct. I'm talking about using the vintage flash unit on my Nikon D80 in full manual tho

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Anonymous Sun 30 Nov 2008 07:12:00 No.303973 Report

Quoted By: >>303976

I have a Nikkormat FT as well, it is a fantastic camera. I still can't figure out why they stopped putting the depth of field preview button on cameras, I love that thing.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Nov 2008 07:21:00 No.303976 Report

Quoted By: >>303977

>>303973
here again.

>>303947

You don't need special film, but I would recommend shooting a roll of Tri-x to get some real good classic black and white shots. Good luck finding someone who actually develops tri-x anymore without sending it out heh....

sunshine

sunshine Sun 30 Nov 2008 07:23:00 No.303977 Report

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>>303976
Yeah I'll attest to that, my store only develops C-41 without having to send out.

But still agreed, Tri-X!

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Anonymous Sun 30 Nov 2008 07:29:00 No.303982 Report

Quoted By: >>303986

I own a Nikkormat EL. Love the thing. My dad gave it to me. I'd kill for some of your lenses though. Dad only had a 50mm and a 135mm. So now I'm left looking for used lenses, and I'm having to go to many different shops because of the way the aperture is adjusted. Shitsux.

303973

303973 Sun 30 Nov 2008 07:36:00 No.303986 Report

Quoted By: >>303988

>>303982

Y'know that's another thing that I can't figure out why they changed. I much prefer changing the aperture on the lens instead of that shitty little wheel on the camera body.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Nov 2008 07:42:00 No.303988 Report

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>>303986
Yeah, this way is much better. And I have a feeling I'm going to be lost after I purchase a new digital body.

Quick question:
When I do eventually get a digital body, will I be able to adjust aperture when I use the lenses I already own [the ones for the Nikkormat]?

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