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{ What is Lolita? } "Lolita" has nothing in common with the erotic meaning of lolita/young girl, but it is a fashion subculture very popular in Japan. Lolita fashion uses Rococo and Victorian era features: bows, lace and elegance are the main ingredients of this style, and it can come in many other styles: Classic, Sweet, Gothic, Country, Punk, Hime (princess), Sailor, Wa (influenced by Japanese kimono), Qi (influenced by Chinese qi pao), Erotic, Kuro (all black), Shiro (all white), Pinku, Mizuiro (all blue), Casual (very simply), Steampunk (very recent), Guro (grotesque), Pirate, Cosplay (a wrong conception of Lolita style), and Military (very recent). We can say that Kuro, Shiro, Pinku and Mizuiro styles are the monochromatic subcategory of Sweet (or Classic) Lolita. Sometimes the Pirate style is considered (and underestimated) Cosplay Lolita, but I think that it could be a good style if you are very familiar with Lolita fashion. A Lolita dress always has a knee-length skirt, if it doesn't is NOT Lolita. It can be longer but not shorter, only Erotic loli skirts can be a little, little shorter to reveal bloomers or garters. Lolita pumps don't have too high heels and usually they have high platforms. Don't use too much colorful wigs or clothes made of low quality fabric, or too shiny/synthetic fabric. Think of a victorian era porcelain doll, you have to look like her, the same delicacy, the same elegance, the same innocence and grace. Remember that Lolita is not only a fashion subculture, but it can be a lifestyle as well.
Weird, you didn't mention fetish or ageplay anywhere in there. Cite where you got that bullshit definition from.
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I thought we already went through this dramu?
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lol what? I have never heard of Pinku or Mizuiro. When the hell did this start? Do we really have to put yet another substyle on something that is just a sweet outfit in one color? I always thought it was pretty dumb to call Shiro and Kuro substyles too. And get cosplay the fuck out of there. It's not a style of Lolita. People need to stop making substyles out of substyles.
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>>4399643 there is nothing sexual in lolita. even erotic lolita is entirely unsexual. you just don't understand.
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>>4399653 these 20 styles in lolita in the picture is the only styles. i put a long works into the drawing.
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>>4399665 it is very recent lolita style.
>>4399655 Nope they only dress as lolita so they can attract people who have a fetish for girls dressing in dresses.
True facts.
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This is either a troll, someone really new, or someone really fucking stupid.
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>>4399674 i'm not a troll. i'm a pretty and cute girl. ):
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>>4399669 >fetish for girls dressing in dresses >girls dressing in dresses >girls in dresses So every girl should dress like a boy?
>>4399681 God damn it /cgl/ the troll is so god damn obvious please just
god i can't even rage slightly properly
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>>4399684 i not troll. i am educate you.
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There are really only three lolita styles: classic, sweet, and gothic. Maybe boystyle. The rest are either themed outfits or draw from other non-lolita styles (like punk). There's no reason to have 20 different styles. I'd take out wa, qi, steampunk, and guro since they're hardly ever done right. Cosplay lolita? Nope.
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Sage for obvious troll
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I fucking hate lolitas sometimes. They're the only people that think dressing in only one color warrants a brand new fashion subtype. Pinku, are you shitting me? Don't even get me started on guro. christ.
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>>4399663 You made this post just to derp over your stupid drawing.
Also, you can easily have a skirt go a few inches above the knee and have it still be lolita, even BtSSB says this. Along with that, AP has shortened their dress to show more leg, doesn't make it ero.
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Lolita is cosplay imho. First of all, the people who do it are every bit as catty and judgmental as cosplayers. There are plenty of batshit crazy self deluded lolis, or so rumour has lead me to believe. It looks costumey, always always always. Granted, there are some major differences, especially the whole I'm going to make a substyle of a substyle of a substyle- that way you can't be mad I'm not following the rules of X! However if you think of the "Laws of lolita style" as the equivalent of staying on model for cosplayers... Just saying that I totally get why this board covers both.
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>>4399795 Similarities between two groups of people don't make their hobbies identical dude. Lrn2logic.
The fundamental premise of cosplay is dressing like a character. Like someone else. Lolita is dressing in a fashion. Without impersonating anyone. It doesn't matter how many similarities you see between the clothes or the people.
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>>4399808 nah its cosplayy.
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>>4399808 nah. It's basically just like wearing a costume.
I'm sorry you don't like it, but it is what it is.
Maybe you're not dressing like a specific character from a specific thing, but it's still a costume. It's over the top and too far removed from what would be considered normal attire to be anything but.
Princess Angelique Dominique
Any examples of military lolita?
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>>4399681 Rule 36. No matter what it is, it is someone's fetish.
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>Cosplay! >Fashion! >Cosplay! >FASHION!!! I'm a lolita and I don't give two yards of crappy raschel lace whether or not people think I'm wearing a costume. So my family thinks it's a costume? I can't ever convince them that it isn't. It's a fashion to me and that's all that matters. Why do lolitas waste their time trying to convince people of this?
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>>4400076 Nope.
Lolitas don't look normal in any context outside of a bunch of other lolitas. And even then, it's like seeing a bunch of people. In. Costumes.
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>>4400086 i can understand the frustration though.
its a fashion as much as any other. it's just completely over the top.
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>>4400106 it's still not a costume.
your argument is weak.
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>>4400086 Thank you. We're walking around in big floofy dresses, OBVIOUSLY people are going to think there's a reason we're dressed up. Or that we're insane. People should either grow a thicker skin or wear something else.
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>>4400106 >those people don't look normal >must be a costume Surely you can do better than this young troll.
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It's a costume. You don't have to dress up like a character for it to be a costume. Just because a small sub-section of people think that it is a legitimate fashion, it's not. You walk around any sort of normal situation, people will think you're dressed up like a princess or something because it goes so far beyond the normal calls of fashionable clothing. Dress has simplified for a reason. The brands and designers just want you to think it's a fashion so that you'll continue to buy more dresses at exorbitant prices, rather than think you only need just one for special occasions.
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>>4400086 I think because it IS such a ridiculous looking fashion people get really sensitive and defensive over it.
I don't care. It's something I enjoy wearing on a daily basis, costume or not.
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>>4400123 >>4400114 You are walking around in big floofy dresses.
Floofy dress = either costume or bridesmaid. Neither make sense without context, and make you look like crazy people and/or fetishists.
And don't get me started on floofy dresses with fake blood and bandages.
Or shiny gears and shit.
Or dressed like a goddamnned pirate in a fucking floofy dress. How the FUCK do you NOT call that a costume?
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People forget that this is a trend that evolved and developed over time. It changes constantly throughout seasons and designers research and create different styles to keep up with what's popular. However, I understand that it is an extreme fashion and looks completely strange to people used to high street fashion.
It's a costume. A fashion implies trends, styles and influences, and has no bearing on the overall image of a person - I can dress in a punkish style while wearing blue denim jeans, you would never call someone who happens to dressed in a black vintage chanel dress with black pumps as "black couture". The fact that you refer to yourself as a "lolita" - a persona that can only be attained by a certain set of clothing, and once you are out of that clothing you are no longer a "lolita" makes it a costume by default. I suppose I could be kind and say it's a "subculture", but that'd be implying lolita as a whole has any culture at all.
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So much stupidity and trolling in this thread it hurts
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The argument of Something big and unusual = Costume is the same as Short skirts and high heels = Prostitute Just because you can be mistaken as something, doesn't mean you are that something.
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I'll always be a classic/casual lolita lover.
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>>4400181 you can call yourself punk and I can call myself lolita.
who gives a fuck.
wearing a costume, however implies that it is not your everyday wear, formal wear whatever, that it's for some purpose like a convention, being a clown, in a performance etc..
>>4400271 It is for some purpose. Of being a lolita. Whatever the fuck that is. Lolita is not everyday wear for a majority of the lolitas themselves.
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>>4400283 Even if some wear lolita once a week, doesn't make it a costume. Lets say I pull out my punk outfit once a week, but the rest of the time I'm a hippy. Doesn't make punk a costume.
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>>4400283 I have no idea what point you are trying to get across.
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