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Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 19:25:00 No.25547871 View View Reply Original Report

Justice League International is making a comeback. Thoughts? I for one enjoyed Generation Lost immensely and I am superhyped for the continuation of the series,

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Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 19:27:00 No.25547893 Report

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Generation Lost was turrrible.

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Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 19:27:00 No.25547897 Report

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WINNICK KILLED ICE! WINNICK KILLED ICE! WINNICK KILLED ICE! WINNICK KILLED ICE! WINNICK KILLED ICE! WINNICK KILLED ICE!

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Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 19:27:00 No.25547901 Report

Quoted By: >>25548227 >>25548302

You enjoyed Generation Lost?
I really do not know whether or not this is a troll thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 19:36:00 No.25548007 Report

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inb4 people bitching about Gen Lost.

It was better than most of the stuff on the shelves these days.

I'm excited for the new ongoing, I just hope Guy is involved.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 19:53:00 No.25548227 Report

Quoted By: >>25548278

>>25547901

Generation Lost isn't as universally hated as you seem to think it is. I'd say it's actually quite evenly divided, if we ignore the lot who just whine about nothing happening.

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Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 19:57:00 No.25548278 Report

Quoted By: >>25548342 >>25548407

>>25548227
I think the only reason it's even divided is because of the last, say, 3-5 issues
it was really obvious the series was really just spinning it's wheels with a lackluster conclusion that really doesn't portray our band of ragtag heroes as very effective at all

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Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 19:59:00 No.25548302 Report

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>>25547901
>>25547893
Generation Lost was awesome. What's your problem?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 19:59:00 No.25548303 Report

Quoted By: >>25548348

I enjoyed Gen Lost till the Ice retcon. Also I miss fun Booster

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Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 20:02:00 No.25548342 Report

Quoted By: >>25548400

>>25548278
The conclusion showed them as very effective, almost to a fault.
Booster is a badass hero that saves the day!
No wait, Beetle is the badass hero that saves the day!
Wait, no, hold on, we really meant Captain Atom!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 20:03:00 No.25548348 Report

Quoted By: >>25548397 >>25548439

>>25548303
Ice whatnow? I haven't kept up cuz Winick can't write a grocery list without screwing it up.

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Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 20:04:00 No.25548369 Report

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>MFW Ted Kord is still dead

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Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 20:06:00 No.25548397 Report

Quoted By: >>25548419 >>25548445

>>25548348
Ice killed her whole family and a bunch of other smelly Gypsies and is secretly like a evil Ice goddess that she has to contain

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Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 20:06:00 No.25548400 Report

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>>25548342
so badass that now Max is exposed to the world...as a sympathetic leader of checkmate who claims that the next time Ice, Fire, or Booster and Beetle save your shit, you can thank him for that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 20:07:00 No.25548407 Report

Quoted By: >>25551470

>>25548278

The only thing they fail achieve is putting Max behind bars. Otherwise they save the day, and even get worldwide recognition for their troubles. You get enough satisfaction from the gang busting Max's plans and Booster personally kicking his ass physically to be content with Max getting away, especially with the new status quo where he's set up with Checkmate to be a Guerrilla fighters sticking it against the Man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 20:07:00 No.25548411 Report

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No Giffen and DeMatteis, no JLI.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 20:08:00 No.25548419 Report

Quoted By: >>25548482 >>25548488

>>25548397
I...do not have an image macro that properly conveys my hatred of this.

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Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 20:10:00 No.25548439 Report

Quoted By: >>25548453 >>25548500

>>25548348

Ice got a new, improved retcon origin and a power upgrade, both of which are most likely going to be developed further in the new ongoing JLI series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 20:10:00 No.25548445 Report

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>>25548397
So instead of being a naive, sweet kid with superpowers, she's Liz Sherman on the opposite end of the thermometer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 20:11:00 No.25548453 Report

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>>25548439
STFU, Judd

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Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 20:13:00 No.25548482 Report

Quoted By: >>25548521 >>25548577

>>25548419

All that really happened was that Ice accidentally killed her father with her powers and it created a trauma that made her only use a fraction of her power until now and forget most of her past. As for the origin of her powers, it's implied that she's some type of reincarnation of a gypsy Ice Goddess, and her Grandfather wants to exploit her powers for his tribes personal gain. The Gypsy Goddess thing was first mentioned and developed years ago, when she was resurrected by Gail Simone in Birds of Prey.

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Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 20:14:00 No.25548488 Report

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>>25548419
I'm sorry I had to be the one to tell you this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 20:15:00 No.25548500 Report

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>>25548439

>improved

Oh, you're that dumb troll again. How's it going newfag?

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Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 20:17:00 No.25548521 Report

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>>25548482
Ice Parallax is not cool bro no matter how you try to justify

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Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 20:17:00 No.25548525 Report

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The new Ice orgin is pretty stupid, but Ice is kind of an all around shitty character anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 20:19:00 No.25548547 Report

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>>25548500

I don't remember anything good ever coming from her "Ice Princess from a kingdom of Frost Giants" origin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 20:21:00 No.25548577 Report

Quoted By: >>25548629

>>25548482
>developed by Gail Simone

The Gypsy part maybe (I don't think so), but the goddess thing is much older. At no point considered "evil".

Still, it's complicating the one character whose return I was pleased with. Sure not much was done with her but I thought she was handled well in the first few issues. She wasn't sure she wanted to do this anymore. Okay, existential crisis.

This is turning her into Rogue or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 20:25:00 No.25548629 Report

Quoted By: >>25548701 >>25548740

>>25548577
>This is turning her into Rogue or something.

She got over it like an issue later after her memory came back and moved on. How is it turning her into Rogue? All it did was establish a plot point about her family being a bunch of baddies who might soon coming after her and give her a much needed power boost.

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Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 20:30:00 No.25548701 Report

Quoted By: >>25548728

>>25548629

Stop.

Just stop.

You always post this shit in every thread. Everyone else hated this storyline, and it was crappy. Just stop trying to convince people it was good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 20:32:00 No.25548728 Report

Quoted By: >>25548736 >>25548754 >>25548760

>>25548701
Weii, I enjoyed it. She had no real origin and Winnick just filled in the blanks.

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Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 20:33:00 No.25548736 Report

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>>25548728

With shit.

"Nothing" is better than shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 20:33:00 No.25548740 Report

Quoted By: >>25548970

>>25548629
You say that you're pitching me your horrible idea. "She got over it an issue later" is even worse!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 20:34:00 No.25548754 Report

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>>25548728

"real origin" = ANGST MURDER DRAAAAMAAA

You're like 14 aren't you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 20:34:00 No.25548760 Report

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>>25548728
There were no fucking blanks. We knew where she came from. We knew who she was. We knew her family. Winnick just overwrote it with his usual brand of stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 20:37:00 No.25548809 Report

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Ice is also a gay man dressed as a woman with aids now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 20:41:00 No.25548878 Report

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The only way this shit could work is if it was a plot by Manga Khan to distract Guy Gardner. Of course Guy's got no idea cuz he's busy, Ice lays out Khan in one punch, get's J'onn to undo all the crap in her head, Guy finds out after War of the Lanterns dies down and gives her a "Baby, you're the greatest!' hug.

It takes that level of sappy ass huddly cuddly saccharine to undo a single Winick idea. And it's worth the diabetic coma.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 20:49:00 No.25548970 Report

Quoted By: >>25549187

>>25548740
>"She got over it an issue later" is even worse!

Why? The Retcon was just the means to boost her powers, set up a future plot thread and give her her portion of character development in the series. The book never made a big deal about it, she freaked out a little initially as to be expected, then got over it like a mature person instead of going emo and slitting her wrists while listening to Linkin Park and everybody continued with the main story of the book.

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Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 21:05:00 No.25549187 Report

Quoted By: >>25549319

>>25548970
How much of a power boost can you get over "ice goddess"? She did not 'need' this at all. You don't know anything about her if you think getting over "My Past Is A LieTM" in seconds is in any way her. Or good writing. Or remotely fucking original.

The Justice League live action tv pilot was less stupid and that involved writers who thought Mars was HOT.

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Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 21:09:00 No.25549242 Report

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I'm sorry everyone who knew about this already but this pisses me off. And thanks for the brohug,>>25548488

But this is shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 21:14:00 No.25549319 Report

Quoted By: >>25549499

>>25549187
>How much of a power boost can you get over "ice goddess"?

Apparently a lot, as she was getting slaughtered until her improved powers kicked in and then defeated her attacker in mere seconds. And she didn't get over it in seconds, she remember her blocked memories, had a moment of shock, spent some tome talking it through while being slightly creeped out by her new powers and then quickly moved on to more pressing things like saving Fire who suddenly got shot in the gut.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 21:21:00 No.25549434 Report

Quoted By: >>25549499

You know? I prefer the ice goddess retcon even if it stinks, simply because otherwise she's just Terra or Geo-Force with ice powers instead of earth powers. You already have a kingdom with kings and princes capable of controlling the earth, do you really need to repeat the formula but with another power? What's this, Green Lantern?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 21:26:00 No.25549499 Report

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>>25549319
>>25549434

I'm not biting. Fuck you, OP. I hope you wake up to a giant green dog with a giant green dog dick buried in your ass telling you he's only doing this to you because Winick brought up his deal with Satan and wants to "fix" Arisia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 21:39:00 No.25549686 Report

Quoted By: >>25549939 >>25551062 >>25551188

Why do a couple of bad issues about a character who basically had shit all to do with the book turn people totally off of what was otherwise a kickass series?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 21:55:00 No.25549939 Report

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>>25549686

Fanboys will be fanboys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 22:44:00 No.25550649 Report

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I for one, didn't like the retcon either, but I didn't let that stop me from enjoying Gen Lost. That's just the way things go in comics. Origin stories get retconned, usually in some hamfisted and terrible manner, and characterization gets changed. Not even the Big 3 are immune to this. Way to roll with the punches /co/.

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Songbird/Diamondback/Hazmat Sun 01 May 2011 22:57:00 No.25550873 Report

Quoted By: >>25550965 >>25551016

You Generation Lost defenders are a lost cause if you think it's better than 52.
And Ice's costume sucks.

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Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 23:03:00 No.25550965 Report

Quoted By: >>25550991

>>25550873

Who the hell said it was better than 52? And Ice's costume is no different from any of her other costumes, it's blue, white, and skintight.

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Songbird/Diamondback/Hazmat Sun 01 May 2011 23:05:00 No.25550991 Report

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>>25550965
Last night there was some guy claiming "Better than 52, and that 52 should have been 26 issues long."
And new costume just stinks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 23:06:00 No.25551016 Report

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>>25550873
That is awful. The Adam Hughes design at least looks good. A midriff?! Who does that anymore?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 23:09:00 No.25551062 Report

Quoted By: >>25551288

>>25549686
Please why is this a "kick ass series"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 23:10:00 No.25551087 Report

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I think if Generation Lost would have been 12 issues long instead of 24, then it would have better pacing and the story would be more acceptable. I mean truthfully they were just like dicking around for 1/3 of the issues in the series. I'm immensely happy that they are creating a Justice League International series, it makes reading Generation Lost totally worth it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 23:17:00 No.25551188 Report

Quoted By: >>25551300

>>25549686
It fucked with the one girl who could get Guy Gardner to watch his mouth. Not out of fear, but out of actual respect. It showed that for all the beat em up crap that is all superhero comics, even a guy like that can find someone who will make him want to calm down and think. And it shows that at the same time not all women are right. Sometimes you have to fight.

I dunno. I'm sure there's a lot outside of Guy and Bea, but I liked Tora as not having the baggage they did. She's not supposed to MATCH them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 23:21:00 No.25551252 Report

Quoted By: >>25551299 >>25551966

I just reread the entire thing from issue one, and the only thing I can say about the pacing is that we didn't need the two trips to the future dedicated to two separate issues, they could've been dealt with in one, and that Batman was more or less useless for once, aside from him restarting the JLI.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 23:23:00 No.25551288 Report

Quoted By: >>25551533

>>25551062

It's a fun and exciting read. The JLI finally gets proper respect in-universe at the end of it. Jaime gets indoctrinated into the JLI. Max is a magnificent bastard all the way through. Gavril is a very funny new addition to the DCU. The book offers a lot of unexpected turns in the story and cool guest stars. Ice got a subplot that's all about her, and doesn't revolve around dating Guy or Fire smothering her in her overprotective Brazilian arms. Checkmate got an interesting revamp. Booster turns into a proper leader and Captain Atom was taken seriously and not made into a chump or a joke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 23:24:00 No.25551299 Report

Quoted By: >>25551309

>>25551252
You're still not getting it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 23:24:00 No.25551300 Report

Quoted By: >>25551320

>>25551188

New era, things change. You can't expect the characters you like to stay the same forever. Especially since the majority of the cast from JLI are either dead or stuck in comic book limbo. Would you rather Ice stay dead, and they introduce some knockoff to replace her instead?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 23:24:00 No.25551309 Report

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>>25551299

Not getting what? And I'm not OP btw.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 23:25:00 No.25551320 Report

Quoted By: >>25551359

>>25551300
I'd rather if you're going to bring back a character you write that fucking character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 23:28:00 No.25551359 Report

Quoted By: >>25551442

>>25551320

And when they can't or won't do that? What are you going to do, go to a message board and complain about it some more?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 23:30:00 No.25551393 Report

Quoted By: >>25551572 >>25551853

I don't really get the *point* of the ending, with Max's whole "taking it upon myself to watch over the heroes, holding them accountable", with Checkmate, as if it were some brand new concept. Isn't that what Checkmate already does? Not sure why it would have to become a "rogue organization" just to do what it normally does...

Just feels like a re-hash of Countdown to Infinite Crisis is in the making.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 23:30:00 No.25551394 Report

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Retcons are okey when they are done by competent people who can actually write.

Judd Winick is not one of those people.

And that's why people hate the Ice story.

And you know, why Generation Lost sucked in general.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 23:33:00 No.25551430 Report

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The Ice retcon is indicative of a larger problem with Generation Lost, and that is, characterizations and plotlines get brought up to serve the story at that particular moment, only to be discarded almost immediately.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 23:33:00 No.25551442 Report

Quoted By: >>25551594

>>25551359
Yes. And not buy the book.

That's your last resort?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 23:35:00 No.25551470 Report

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>>25548407
>and even get worldwide recognition for their troubles

...By the guy they were trying to stop. That's pretty much Max spitting in their faces and laughing.

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Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 23:38:00 No.25551533 Report

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>>25551288
>>Gavril
You mean Ronnie?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 23:41:00 No.25551572 Report

Quoted By: >>25551627

>>25551393

The ending basically states that Max is still at large and still is a threat. He's in control of Checkmate, or what's left of it, which means he's able to act on an international scale. In order to combat this, Batman is restarting the Justice League International.

In other words, the ending is just an anticlimatic segue into the new JLI series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 23:42:00 No.25551594 Report

Quoted By: >>25551638

>>25551442

Not really, just seems like you're complaining for complaining's sake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 23:44:00 No.25551627 Report

Quoted By: >>25551699

>>25551572
You would think with the rest of the world remembering Max again, every hero available would rain fire down upon "New Checkmate" and take down Max in a matter of minutes...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 23:45:00 No.25551638 Report

Quoted By: >>25551848

>>25551594
I'm complaining because I'm angry and this is stupid. I'm paying with my wallet. If I could drop Batman and Robin any harder for Winick coming on, I would.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 23:48:00 No.25551699 Report

Quoted By: >>25551834

>>25551627

They'd have to find him first. So, I wouldn't think it would take a matter of minutes. They were never actually able to locate him last time he was on the run.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 23:57:00 No.25551834 Report

Quoted By: >>25551873

>>25551699
Last time, there was the shock of him coming back from the dead. This time, they should be more than ready.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 23:57:00 No.25551848 Report

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>>25551638

Fair enough. You have every right to be angry about a stupid retcon. I just don't think you should let that ruin your enjoyment of something that's always going to come with the good things and bad things. Especially considering the entire premise is centered on a character who was turned into a villain without any prior warning or justification.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 23:58:00 No.25551853 Report

Quoted By: >>25551915 >>25551917

>>25551393

It's not really the same. In Countdown to Infinite Crisis Max had turned the organization to serve his own needs by mindcontrolling the Government to let him do whatever he wanted. And he was able to do that because he did it slowly in secret over the course of years. He can no longer do this because he's too famous and people are after him.

Checkmate itself is different now in the sense that Max no longer has the manpower he previously had, just the resources and technology he stole during Generation Lost. So instead, he's now chosen to turn himself into a character who looks like am average Joe who valiantly has decided to step up and fight the metahuman menace and everything bad spoken about him are simply fabricated lies to keep him and his cause down by the evil metahumans. He's trying to make himself look like a global freedom fighter underdog instead of an infamous terrorist so people would cheer for him and join his cause and Organization voluntarily, making it harder for superheroes to fight him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 23:59:00 No.25551873 Report

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>>25551834

They weren't really tripping that hard about him coming back from the dead. Or maybe they were, since they mobilized the entire meta-community to go after him. And they still didn't find him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 00:01:00 No.25551915 Report

Quoted By: >>25552017

>>25551853
>So instead, he's now chosen to turn himself into a character who looks like am average Joe who valiantly has decided to step up and fight the metahuman menace and everything bad spoken about him are simply fabricated lies to keep him and his cause down by the evil metahumans. He's trying to make himself look like a global freedom fighter underdog instead of an infamous terrorist so people would cheer for him and join his cause

So, the Lex Luthor Defense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 00:01:00 No.25551917 Report

Quoted By: >>25551958

>>25551853in the sense that Max no longer has the manpower he previously had

He's still got a pet Kryptonian. That alone makes him someone to be reckoned with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 00:03:00 No.25551958 Report

Quoted By: >>25552073 >>25552420

>>25551917
Odd how she didn't show up in Generation Lost at all, or that Purple Guy either. Not even any mentions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 00:03:00 No.25551966 Report

Quoted By: >>25551998

>>25551252
>we didn't need the two trips to the future dedicated to two separate issues

Those issues were needed to give Captain Atom his share of character development in the book and act as a breather, both in terms of plot progression and pacing the story to fit 24 issues.

The trips were also partly used to establish the consequences for what happens if they fail to stop Max: First time around you just knew Earth gets fucked by Max somehow, without any proper details. The second trip paints a clearer picture of what exactly happens, while still keeping the most vital parts secret and at the same time answered cleverly some questions that were roused during the first trip, like wtf was up with the moon being half decimated, etc. It also gave a cool new alt. future version of the JLA.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 00:06:00 No.25551998 Report

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>>25551966
Because Capt. Atom didn't get that over and over again during Infinite Crisis

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 00:07:00 No.25552017 Report

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>>25551915

Sure, but not something just the readers know. Max turned it into a viral global movement, not something Lex just rants to Superman when he's trying to stab him with a kryptonite dagger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 00:08:00 No.25552039 Report

Quoted By: >>25552095 >>25552230

I did enjoy the first half of Generation Lost, back when Giffen was overseeing it. I love Gavril and Captain Atom got some great moments too. Jaime also was handled adequately, which is a good thing because HOLY SHIT did you see what they did to him outside of his own run? My God.

Ultimately, though, Gen Lost didn't have the humor I was looking for and what makes the JLI such a great team. I'm HOPING that the new JLI monthly will have someone better at writing humor on it, because Winnick just can't do it. I mean, fer Christs sake, look at Power Girl. Even when he's trying to write humor the best he can come up with is THESE DINOSAURS ARE MAGIC!!! Like its some kind of half-baked Axe Cop strip.

It was still far and away better than Brightest Day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 00:10:00 No.25552073 Report

Quoted By: >>25552161

>>25551958

She just sort of vanished after attacking Peej in her office. Maybe she's on a mission. Maybe she's making Max breakfast wearing nothing but an apron.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 00:11:00 No.25552095 Report

Quoted By: >>25552169

>>25552039
>Jaime also was handled adequately, which is a good thing because HOLY SHIT did you see what they did to him outside of his own run?

I thought Jaime was handled pretty poorly until the last few issues. He felt like a non-character for the most part, then the whole "LOL MAX KILLS ANOTHER BEETLE" hype, and THEN he finally does something.

>I'm HOPING that the new JLI monthly will have someone better at writing humor on it

Winick is writing it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 00:15:00 No.25552161 Report

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>>25552073
That was a delusion/dream. The last time she was seen was in that lab full of other clones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 00:15:00 No.25552169 Report

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>>25552095

Source or GTFO.

Also, when I say he was written adequately, I mean just that. He wasn't peppering his language with burritos and tacos to remind us HEY HE'S MEXICAN GUYS REMEMBER WE HAVE A MEXICAN, which is more than I can say for his appearances outside Gen Lost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 00:16:00 No.25552183 Report

Quoted By: >>25552282

I'm excited.

I'm not hoping for the best, because my heart has been broken into pieces over the JLI too many times. But still, I can't help but look forward to seeing more of the team again.

Generation Lost had its faults like any comic, but overall I enjoyed it. And I was pleased with what they did with Max, since they at least made him a competent and understandable villain rather than the plot device villain he was before.

I also miss the JLI threads we used to have. It feels like the old fans all disappeared.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 00:19:00 No.25552230 Report

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.>>25552039
>back when Giffen was overseeing it.

Giffen was credited for the story in issue one because he plotted the entire series with Winnick. But Winnick himself wrote all the scripts alone for the individual issues. What people consider "leaving" was just Giffen stopping to do the breakdowns for the art after issue six. That's why his name was put on the cover of the book in the beginning, he did the fucking breakdowns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 00:22:00 No.25552282 Report

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>>25552183

Some of us are still here, bro.

I hope they bring back The Mighty Bruce as a villain. Hell, I want him, Big Sir, Multi Man, and Major Disaster all back in the Injustice League International. Those were the fucking days, man, when you could have the Justice League and the Injustice League take a French night course together in their civvies without realizing who the other was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 00:30:00 No.25552420 Report

Quoted By: >>25552485

>>25551958

Because Max had to change his plans at the last minute and he chose to go with Ivo's mass Omac attack approach instead. It's blatantly said in the comic Max rushed everything when the JLI got a jump on him when he was dissecting Blue Beetle and he couldn't find Wonder Woman anymore. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to sum up that the plans to use henchmen from PG were dropped. Or maybe Max always planned to start using them only after killing Diana, when he was going to kill metas in large quantities.

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 00:33:00 No.25552485 Report

Quoted By: >>25552509 >>25552610 >>25552647 >>25552895

>>25552420

It's easier to chock that up to bad storytelling dude. The Divine stuff was barely even mentioned outside of Power Girl. Just another sign that Power Girl is going down the toilet.

Anyway, who do you guys think are going to be included in the roster? Obviously the main Gen Lost members, but who else? Most of the old members are dead, so maybe we'll see some resurrections?

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 00:35:00 No.25552509 Report

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>>25552485
What are some current C-list heroes?

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 00:40:00 No.25552610 Report

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>>25552485
>The Divine stuff was barely even mentioned outside of Power Girl.

There was actually a mention of it in Supergirl. But yea, you'd think the idea of Kryptonian clones running around would get a bit more coverage....

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 00:42:00 No.25552647 Report

Quoted By: >>25552716 >>25552724

>>25552485

If we're going by the old rosters, there's a chance they'll add J'onn, PG and maybe Metamorpho to the cast.

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 00:46:00 No.25552716 Report

Quoted By: >>25552873

>>25552647
If/when the current JLA roster gets the axe, I wouldn't mind seeing Congorilla and Starman join the JLI.

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 00:47:00 No.25552724 Report

Quoted By: >>25552754

>>25552647

>mfw we can't get Elongated Man for the cast

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 00:48:00 No.25552754 Report

Quoted By: >>25552873

>>25552724
Maybe Ghost Ralph & Sue will make an appearance...

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 00:53:00 No.25552873 Report

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>>25552716

It's a shame about the current JLA roster. You'd think DC would make a bigger deal of the sidekicks growing up.

>>25552754

On that note, I would love if they figured out a way to get Scott and Barda back. In the meantime, they could always add Shiloh, I don't think he belongs to any superteam right now.

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 00:54:00 No.25552895 Report

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>>25552485

El Gaucho, or Knight (& Squire)

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 01:00:00 No.25553068 Report

Quoted By: >>25553208

Since Jaime's on the team, they could add Traci 13 and complete the set. They'd also get a Dr. Fate substitute out of the bargain.

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 01:07:00 No.25553208 Report

Quoted By: >>25553247 >>25553325

>>25553068

Who wrote the Blue Beetle again? We should have them do JLI, they seemed to have a good head for comedy.

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 01:09:00 No.25553247 Report

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>>25553208
Kieth Giffen? Funny you should mention him...

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 01:10:00 No.25553272 Report

Quoted By: >>25553325

John Rogers wrote most of it up to issue 25, with Giffen co-writing in the beginning. Sturgens took over up until the end.

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 01:12:00 No.25553325 Report

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>>25553272
>>25553208
Rogers is pretty much my choice for a potential JLI writer. Hell, he wrote them better in a handful pages than Winick did over the course of 24 issues.

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 02:24:00 No.25554909 Report

Quoted By: >>25557855

>>25547871
>This page...
>Also WW confirmed for 'really, Princess?' tier.

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 04:30:00 No.25557855 Report

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>>25554909
>WW confirmed for 'really, Princess?' tier.

I don't get it.

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 06:14:00 No.25560363 Report

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My greatest fear is that the new JLI will either end up superdark and edgy, like most mainstream comics, or try too hard to be funny and end up being shit.

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