LOL alexander mcqueen is only going to be famous for having some ugly whore taking over his house, who is designing an ugly dress for an ugly whore marrying a shit tier prince of a shit tier nation.
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Are you trying to impress berry?
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>>3392162 my dog killed a rabbit today
>>3394085 >implying berry wears designer clothes >implying berry can afford MCQ diffusion shit let alone mainline RTW, and she will never wear the couture line in her life kate middleton, the world doesn't revovle around you..berry
and you are in no way associated with any designer in anyway
save reposting 1 or 2 pictures GTFO to hot topic
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It's always a touch subject when labels has to find successors. Don't even get me started with other labels like Gucci, Martin Margiela and Helmut Lang.
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That dress was gorgeous and she looked lovely. Blah blah blah mcqueen wouldn't have did that dress blah blah she sucks. She designed a dress for a simple woman who happened to be marrying a prince, she designed the perfect dress for her. Do you people get business at all? Uh you have to satisfy clients to the best of your ability and take their needs into consideration when you're doing something for them, do you think Kate Middleton was going to walk down the ile in a dress made entirely out of feathers and white leather? No. She was going to wear something conservative because that's the kind of person she is and Burton did a wonderful job designing a dress for her tastes. She's not Alexander Mcqueen, she will never be him but she's trying to the best of her abilities to do his name justice but do you get how hard that would be living in that shadow?
Beats being famous for popularising plumber's crack and flogging edgy graphic tees with eagles and skulls.
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>>3394233 >he thinks that mcqueen actually designed every single thing that had his name on it >he doesn't understand that the bumster trousers weren't about showing ass, but about elongating the torso >he wouldn't be able to put together a pattern if a dressmaker, a patternmaker, and a grader literally told him all the steps necessary to make a pattern >he thinks that being able to criticize is the same as being able to provide a valid, insightful critique Anonymous
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>>3394247 >he completely missed the point Anonymous
>>3394233 You do understand that was his McQ line, right?
Which was licensed to another company with another product development team.
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>>3394267 The items pictures are all mainline Alexander McQueen menswear products. If I'm not mistaken, the mainline label is white with off-white thread for the name while the McQ label is bigger, in gray, with contrasting white thread for the name.
>>3394267 You will have noticed that I deliberately didn't say Alexander McQueen designed them, any more than OP said he designed the wedding gown.
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>>3394271 I don't remember ever seeing these pieces for his mainline.
>>3394274 I understand the point your making, I just read the article which confused me of your conviction.
Sorry.
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>>3394285 Spring 2010. The collection was inspired by various painters and included "paint" splattered apparel and shoes, as well as Escher-esque patterns and slightly loose pants and shirts set against rigorous tailoring.
>>3394285 Well, my original point was just that being famous for something is dependent almost entirely on the masses who regard you as famous. I agree with the purport of the article, though, in as much as the high fashion industry seems to comprise mainly self-important hangers-on and relatively few respectable professionals of any consequence.
Inb4 somebody lauding his fashion hero aberration. Most creative industries attract poseurs; I'm not saying it's the serious pros' fault.
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>>3394306 Ah, I see.
But what about these pieces?
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>>3394318 >pieces They're t-shirts, you fucking retard
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>>3394309 There are few designers nowadays who actually understand and can actually perform the complicated patternwork and draping that goes into garment production. You could probably count on one hand (Rick Owens, Olivier Theyskens amongst others) the people who got their jobs because they made the clothes themselves rather than learning about patternmaking and grading and being able to pay others to do the actual cutting for them. McQueen's trade history and his studies at St. Martins most certainly gave him one of the most diverse technical repertoires of any designer in recent history.
I understand what you're saying about fame, but doesn't that work for all famous people? Isn't the definition of fame that other people think you're worth watching? I don't really see what correlation there is between his fame and his skills or creative output.
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>>3394309 But that's with any high fashion brand that have excellent marketing.
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>>3394318 Also mainline. The skull is used primarily as a identifying logo in the mainline garments while McQ makes much greater use of the "Q" logo.
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>>3394325 No, there's no correlation. That's exactly what I'm saying. Marie Antoinette may never have said "let them eat cake", but that's what she's most famous for because fame is in the mind of the pleb. Nothing to do with fashion at all.
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>>3394323 plebeian detected
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>>3394325 Not to be nit picky, but Theyskens learned a LOT of technical skills from La Cambre.
Even in his first 4 semesters, it's the most intense experimentation of the entire program.
But your absolutely right about his diverse technical skill.
We also can not forget that he gained a lot of skill from working with the Givenchy Ateliers also.
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>>3394338 >calling graphic t-shirts "pieces" because they're alexander mcqueen branded Pretty sure you're the plebeian in this situation. Wealthy people know what's actually considered a "piece" and what's just a t-shirt. You are of low taste.
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>>3394351 No, I agree with this. I'm saying that he actually knows how to make patterns and do cut-and-sew work as opposed to designers who learn the process, but become famous for designing, rather than MAKING clothing.
>>3394353 I don't think it's uncommon to refer to clothing, especially in the context of discussing a collection, as "pieces" since they're conceived of as literal pieces of an entire overarching theme/show/season. I don't really know how much price and exclusivity factor into this. And as far as merchants are concerned, everything's just a "piece" in a delivery anyway.
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>>3394353 The term pieces is a technical term you fucking retard.
It's not like your impressing anyone by knowing a simple silhouette.
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>>3394363 Ok, I understand what your saying.
I believe the first two collections from Theyskens was from window curtains and fabric scraps he could find.
I have a few photos in my archive but not much.
Do you know the tailor that McQueen worked for while he was finishing his MA?
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>>3394381 He worked at Anderson & Shepherd and then Gieves & Hawkes as a young adult; I'm not aware of any tailoring jobs he held while studying at St. Martins.
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>>3394381 This isn't by any means an exhaustive study of Theyskens' oeuvre (it's mostly just pretty pictures with a nice foreword by Sally Singer) but it's still one of the few widely available resources for people who want to view some of his older collections in detail.
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>>3394389 I wasn't either, but most MA students get excellent internships now that CSM has an excellent reputation.
I just know he was at the bar a lot.
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>>3394368 *you're
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I really wish everyone around here would stop using the word pleb. None of you know what it actually means and so it just makes you sound inordinately more classless, and uneducated, than the person or group of people you're attempting to belittle. Plebian was one of the two classes in Rome and it in no way implies any level of wealth or social status. Most of the wealth, knowledge, and creative ouput of Rome came from Plebians. Fucking Caesar Augustus was a Pleb. You're simply saying someone is not Patrician. Such use of pleb is perfectly analogous to saying that anyone who isn't a direct descendent of someone who signed the Declaration of Independence is a poor, uneducated, uncultured twat. Stop being so fucking pompous.
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>>3394403 Someone is still trying to impress.
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can we have a mcqueen thread
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Alla Kostromicheva for Vogue Nippon, wearing all spring 2010.
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Peter from Hapsical probably did one of the most comprehensive retrospectives of McQueen that I've found online.
>http://hapsical.blogspot.com/2010/02/towering-genius-of-alexander-mcqueen.html Well worth the scroll and the read.
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FUCK THAT SHIT ISNT MCQUEEN YOU FUCKING RETARD ITS FUCKING HOUSE OF MCQUEEN DONT PUT ALEXANDERS NAME ON THAT TERRIBLE SARAH BURTON SHIT DRESS WITH THE LACED DECOLLETE SHE LOOKED LIKE A FUCKING DOILY I BET THEY ARE GOING TO START FUCKING MASS PRODUCING THIS SHIT AND SELLING IT IN TJMAXX FUCK SARAH BURTON SO AVANT GARDE NEW AGED MONARCHY
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>>3394483 Yes that is a very good op-ed that I would recommend anyone who is just starting to delve into McQueen's work read.
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>>3394483 I too enjoyed that read.
I'm actually looking forward to his new book coming out in a few months.
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It's a huge shame that lots of McQueen's early work is lost to time. As a student and starting designer, McQueen had no reservations about tearing into his old samples to source material for new collections and lots of original designs will probably only exist in whatever little photographic evidence was taken of them. I would be remiss to not dump his final collection.
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I'm curious to know everyone's favorite collection from him. Mine would be either his "Overlook" collection or his "Asylum " collection.
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I really love him. Mostly for his shows. I like Burton's desgins.....but not for the McQueen image....
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my other fave <3
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>>3394487 >worshipping him because he's dead Yeah, and what's with these companies labelling their shit "Chanel" and "Dior"?
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>>3394215 burton should have done the dress with white feather wings, whit leather and a slit that shows her ass crack
then bedazzled it with swaoski crystals in a skull pattern to pay homage to mcqueen
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>>3394529 His debut couture collection for Givenchy.
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this collection pissed LVMH so much
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>>3394247 mcqueen didn't know that shit either he got kicked the fuck off savile row for being a tard
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It's just really early in his career and there is this sort of aesthetic abandon. A lot of pretty things, a lot of strange things, a lot of scary things, and a wonderful few that are the other three all at once.
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Overlooking the show:
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>>3394200 i like how MCQ for target prices > Alexander Mcqueen mainline (ivory lettering white label) prices on tfs
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A lot of profane and bestial motifs emerged during McQueen's career and some of that seems to have started here. I don't mean he was trying to be deep or shit, but he just tapped into really beautiful interpretations of religious and mythic symbols and stuff. Just a dude with a lot of technical skill whose imagination drove him to explore lots of different subject matter.
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>>3394561 Yeah I was just quoting sieg, you, and others from different threads regarding the dress.
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