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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 10:42:00 No.17269245 View View Reply Original Report

I looked at all the extra time you can get by switching over to the "uberman"/polyphasic sleep schedule. Anyone here tried it? Experiences? Rumors? Myths? Any reply at all will be appreciated.

for people who don't know what it is: tl;dr if you take 6 power naps, your brain switches into REM ("real") sleep quicker which is more efficient than normal. 8 hour sleep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 10:43:00 No.17269256 Report

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This is /g/.

You need to get some rest, bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 10:44:00 No.17269264 Report

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>dying early

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 10:44:00 No.17269271 Report

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You're better of giving yourself more sleep than in the uberman method.

Keep in mind you give your heart a small semi-resting period during sleep, and this is important. It's a muscle too, it will need some form of rest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 10:44:00 No.17269272 Report

Quoted By: >>17269352

Not really suitable for a real world lifestyle. But not bad for a neckbeard with no job.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 10:45:00 No.17269283 Report

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>ignore the millions of years humans evolved with an 8 hour sleep cycle because it "just werks"

HERPA DERPA

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 10:50:00 No.17269352 Report

Quoted By: >>17269391

>>17269272
If you have a job with a 30 minute break, you could sleep 20 minutes, but work 4 hours on both sides for a total of an 8 hour shift.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 10:51:00 No.17269362 Report

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OP, you are going full retard. I've done something similar to everyman and it's shit.

Don't hurt yourself op

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 10:51:00 No.17269367 Report

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The top left should be called "normal people," and the top right should be called "senior citizens." The bottom ones are just fantasy. Humans sleep in approx. 3 hour cycles. If you are constantly interrupting those cycles, your circadian clock will never reset and you'll lose track of time/start hallucinating/randomly pass out from exhaustion

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ev Mon 02 May 2011 10:52:00 No.17269382 Report

Quoted By: >>17269417

I've been interested in trying this too but I don't have time in my day to just drop everything and nap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 10:52:00 No.17269391 Report

Quoted By: >>17269433

>>17269352
Yeah, but who can actually fall asleep in the middle of the day, especially at a place that's not your bedroom?

Serious question because I have never been able to nap except when I was seriously ill or otherwise sleep-deprived.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 10:54:00 No.17269410 Report

Quoted By: >>17269630 >>17269647

It's terrible. Sure, you'll function, but it will be with a greatly reduced physical and mental capacity. The only thing it's decent for is solo around the world yacht trips and such, not for day to day life.

The correct way to sleep is to go to bed when you are tired enough to rest, and get up when you know you won't fall back asleep if you stay in bed. I do this and wake up rested and with no morning grogieness. A short nap (20-30 minutes) in the afternoon is also normal and healthy if you can get it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 10:54:00 No.17269416 Report

Quoted By: >>17269437 >>17269481

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 10:54:00 No.17269417 Report

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>>17269382
Whoever wrote that is an idiot. You are basically getting just enough rest to stay up another 2 hours. That's not enough rest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 10:54:00 No.17269419 Report

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It's a complete myth. Can you live like that? Sure if you want to be sick most of the time (you *will* catch everything going around no matter how minor because your immune system will be shot) and you won't have enough concentration left except for the most menial of tasks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 10:55:00 No.17269433 Report

Quoted By: >>17269446 >>17269447

>>17269391
That's the point. With the sleep schedule, you don't waste time trying to fall asleep. When your four hours are up, you will feel very, very tired and you will go straight into REM sleep, but you only have to sleep for 20 minutes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 10:55:00 No.17269437 Report

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>>17269417again
Why did you delete the post and then re-post it? I was replying to this silly chart:>>17269416

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 10:56:00 No.17269446 Report

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>>17269433

Actually, you'll be very very tired that whole four hours and barely able to function. Don't believe me? Try it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 10:56:00 No.17269447 Report

Quoted By: >>17269508

>>17269433
>but you only have to sleep for 20 minutes.

Have you ever actually tried this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 10:57:00 No.17269464 Report

Quoted By: >>17269523

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_A_Wehr
>By the fourth week, the subjects slept an average of eight hours a night – but not consecutively. Instead, sleep seemed to be concentrated in two blocks. First, subjects tended to lie awake for one to two hours and then fall quickly asleep. Wehr found that the abrupt onset of sleep was linked to a spike in the hormone melatonin. Melatonin secretion by the brain’s pineal gland is switched on by darkness. After an average of three to five hours of solid sleep, the subjects would awaken and spend an hour or two of peaceful wakefulness before a second three- to five-hour sleep period. This bimodal pattern or segmented sleep was a rare glimpse into pre-historic natural human sleep.
If you want to have the sleep pattern we've evolved for, here you go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 10:58:00 No.17269472 Report

Quoted By: >>17269498 >>17269500 >>17269517 >>17272580

Has anyone here actually tried it? My brother has been sleeping in a slightly different "uberman" cycle for like two years and he performs as well as everyone else and his physician checks off on it even though he is getting around 6 hours of sleep every 24 hours.

Besides, I have heard of many doctors agreeing that these nap cycles are better than one huge block of sleep when comparing the same times (6 hours spread out vs 6 hours all at once).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 10:58:00 No.17269481 Report

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>>17269416
Fucking stupid
"HURR WE DON'T KNOW IF NON REM SLEEP DOES ANYTHING SO YOU MUST NOT NEED IT, WE JUST SLEEP AN EXTRA 6 HOURS FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 10:59:00 No.17269491 Report

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>>17269245
The three charts on the bottom basically say "I'm not a productive member of society".

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 10:59:00 No.17269492 Report

Quoted By: >>17269509

>>17269446
For the first days, of course it will be tough. And if you miss naps, yes it will be much harder. People who have taken like 2 weeks to adjust though apparently feel just as freshly rejuvenated as they do every morning after their nap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:00:00 No.17269498 Report

Quoted By: >>17269577 >>17269861

>>17269472
My roommate tells me that he "only gets about 2 hours of sleep a night," but I knock on his door anytime from 10am through 5pm and he's fast asleep.

It doesn't count if you're just talking about a friend or a friend of a friend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:00:00 No.17269500 Report

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>>17269472
6 hours is within the normal range of how much sleep you need anyway. Some people are fine with 6, other people need 10. Depends on your body.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:01:00 No.17269508 Report

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>>17269447
no, I only posted that because it's the premise, and was wondering if it was bullshit. A lot of people in this thread say it is but I haven't seen anyone so far who says they've actually tried it or know anyone who has.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:01:00 No.17269509 Report

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>>17269492
>apparently feel
>apparently

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:01:00 No.17269517 Report

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>>17269472

That's what your brother is telling you. I've never known anyone who tried this to stay on it for long. Unless, of course, they were lying about it.

Doctor signing off on this? None I've never asked.

(I have a fairly profound sleep disorder so I've asked alot of sleep docs alot of wacky things. They've all said 'this is a complete myth'.)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:02:00 No.17269523 Report

Quoted By: >>17269566 >>17269653

>>17269464

Reminded me of this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:05:00 No.17269566 Report

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>>17269523
>that
Okay. My guess would be that Wehr's experiments were beneficial for their subjects, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:06:00 No.17269577 Report

Quoted By: >>17269598 >>17269602 >>17269627

>>17269498
Um my brother is a pretty massive health nut, has experimented with juice diets and shit before so he tries this stuff a lot.

And yeah he is sleeping on an uberman schedule, his wife backs it up. I dont think he's lying like your faggot roommate.

If you want though I can find shittons of links that show how dumb everyone in this thread really is. Simply because you form this misconception that something MUST ABSOLUTELY BE DONE THIS WAY doesn't make it true.

Check out the 3 meals vs multiple meals debate. For years people thought that eating 3 meals was the healthiest way to deal with things, but it's actually just the easiest way to work around everyone's schedule. Our digestive systems perform better when constantly digesting food, but many nutritionists and fucking idiot sheeple like in this thread will try and give their "expert opinions" otherwise because it's commonly accepted.

Stop being idiots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:08:00 No.17269598 Report

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>>17269577
>sheeple
I bet you believe in conspiracies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:08:00 No.17269602 Report

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>>17269577
op here, I would love to see these links, and please anything else you know about your brother related to this schedule. Please do tell!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:11:00 No.17269627 Report

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>>17269577
>Um my brother is a pretty massive health nut

So he's a freak to start with

> has experimented with juice diets and shit before so he tries this stuff a lot.

...not making him sound particularly credible.

>And yeah he is sleeping on an uberman schedule, his wife backs it up.

Yeah, I've never lied for my wife before :-)

> I dont think he's lying like your faggot roommate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:11:00 No.17269630 Report

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>>17269410
>and get up when you know you won't fall back asleep if you stay in bed
It's a problem when you are in a schedule.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:15:00 No.17269647 Report

Quoted By: >>17269660

>>17269410
>The correct way to sleep is to go to bed when you are tired enough to rest, and get up when you know you won't fall back asleep if you stay in bed. I do this and wake up rested and with no morning grogieness. A short nap (20-30 minutes) in the afternoon is also normal and healthy if you can get it.

Yes, spoken like a true NEET.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:15:00 No.17269653 Report

Quoted By: >>17269713 >>17269771

>>17269523
tee hee

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:19:00 No.17269660 Report

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>>17269647
You work retail?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:21:00 No.17269664 Report

Quoted By: >>17269678

No. Why do you ask?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:22:00 No.17269678 Report

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>>17269664
Because with a decent job you have breaks. You can use them to sleep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:27:00 No.17269707 Report

Quoted By: >>17272613

I didn't make myself clear. I said that guy must be a NEET because if I sleep until I'm not tired anymore, I would sleep until 10 or 11 every day. I'm not saying anything about naps. Although I still don't get how people can just fall asleep anywhere they are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:27:00 No.17269713 Report

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>>17269653
wat

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:31:00 No.17269746 Report

Quoted By: >>17269790 >>17269801 >>17269829

How do I overclock my brain

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:34:00 No.17269771 Report

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>>17269653
hopefully fake.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:35:00 No.17269784 Report

Quoted By: >>17269847

Sleep thread?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:36:00 No.17269789 Report

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shadertest !Miku70qkbw!!k0MudvORMyC

shadertest !Miku70qkbw!!k0MudvORMyC Mon 02 May 2011 11:36:00 No.17269790 Report

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>>17269746
Do you have sufficient cooling?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:37:00 No.17269798 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:38:00 No.17269801 Report

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>>17269746
You have to raise the current.Just breathe faster for that.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:39:00 No.17269807 Report

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You will not sleep tonight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:41:00 No.17269829 Report

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>>17269746

Amphetamines my good man. They're called 'speed' for a reason.

You think faster. You also make more mistakes. Be careful about not doing strenuous physical excercise on them.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:44:00 No.17269847 Report

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>>17269784
ALL OF MY FEAR!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:44:00 No.17269853 Report

Quoted By: >>17269870

I tried this uberman thing for a month or two back when I was 18 and stupid. You will get hella bored and realize you don't actually have anything worthwhile to do for those extra 4-8 hours a day.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:45:00 No.17269856 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:46:00 No.17269861 Report

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>>17269498
I get around 3 hours a night, but it's in 1 block of sleep. I don't have insomnia, but I rarely feel tired. I can sleep longer if I want to (on weekends I get about 8 hours) but I'd rather spend my hours on 4chan. I don't know why I don't feel fatigue, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:47:00 No.17269870 Report

Quoted By: >>17271821

>>17269853

You maybe. I'd do anything for an extra 4-8 hours a day. I tried it. Left me too fried to concentrate. Sure, I could do it but I swaer my IQ dropped to about 70. I'd just... stare... at things and not remember what it was I had just wanted to do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 11:52:00 No.17269903 Report

Quoted By: >>17269924 >>17271821

I would love to live on a planet with about 30 or 35 hours in a day. I need about 8-10 hours of sleep, but I can barely get anything done in my 14-16 waking hours. When I'm productive, I'm awake for 18-20 hours at a time and can do this without feeling tired, but then I have to sleep through part of the next day and end up having a shitty day following that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 12:01:00 No.17269924 Report

Quoted By: >>17271821

>>17269903

You're doing it wrong. You're supposed to post on /g/ about how your a genius superman who has cured cancer and taught Chuck Norris to polka while only sleeping 20min a day. Extra points for calling at least two other posters 'a fag'.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 15:44:00 No.17271602 Report

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hnnnnnnnng

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 16:06:00 No.17271821 Report

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>>17269924
bro I'm a genius superman who has cured cancer and I taught Chuck Norris to polka while only sleeping 20min a day

>>17269870
>>17269903are fucking faggots

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 16:11:00 No.17271858 Report

Quoted By: >>17272481

Buckminster Fuller was a freak of the nature.

You won't survive for long with that shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 17:32:00 No.17272481 Report

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>>17271858
im 12, explain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 17:42:00 No.17272557 Report

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The problem with 20 minutes naps is that you have to nap 20 minutes at very inappropriate times.

You also gain a lot by good long nights sleep.

For instance, if you work out, you'd be happy to know that growth hormones are being sent out in greater numbers under SWS sleep. Protein synthesis is greater under REM sleep, and younger children have heavier periods of REM sleep when learning is at it's most intense.

So yes, longer periods of sleep are good for you, since SWS and REM sleep doesn't necessarily hit you until after an hour or so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 17:45:00 No.17272580 Report

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>>17269472
6 hours of sleep is almost within standard deviation of sleep, which is 7,5 hours +/- 1 hour.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 17:48:00 No.17272609 Report

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Biphasic here. Pretty natural choice for a busy semester. May try uberman during summer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 17:48:00 No.17272613 Report

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>>17269707
I get up at 7 am everyday without being tired.

But I can't stay up late at night without being tired.

Some people get up early, and go to bed early and some people don't.

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