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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 11:02:00 No.7272850 View View Reply Original Report

Mah?tsukai no Yoru discussion, anyone?

I feel like a massive slowpoke for just finding out they was a trailer from C78 available from a month ago. The art looks fantastic and the visual novel's progress looks polished. Aoko looks like she'll be the new Rin/Akiha/Azaka for Type-Moon, Alice looks HHNNNGGGG, and the new guy looks like another normalfag pushover. Other than that, everything looks fantastic and I'm anticipating it. Hopefully, the earthquake didn't push the release back too much.

The ending song in full in case anyone wants it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J-gK0SMeE8&feature=player_embedded

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 11:30:00 No.7272907 Report

Quoted By: >>7272928 >>7272931 >>7272937

No choices mean no fun.

how am I supposed to enjoy a type moon game without any bad ends?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 11:35:00 No.7272928 Report

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>>7272907
Because of Aoko's rudeness and sugoi.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 11:35:00 No.7272931 Report

Quoted By: >>7274447 >>7274566

>>7272907

Make fun of Takeuchi's ar-
Enjoy the Aoko H sce-
Wanking to the fight sce-
Hope for cameos from oth-
Powerlevel discussions?

Yeah, I got nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 11:37:00 No.7272937 Report

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>>7272907

http://www.tsukikan.com/misc/the-secret-of-mahou-tsukai-no-yorus-birth.html

If you have read this, you would pretty much know that Nasu got conned into doing this by Takeuchi, the artist. Hopefully, as linear as this is, I'm looking into a good experience.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 11:37:00 No.7272938 Report

Quoted By: >>7272950

I'm more interested in Tsukihime remake. Nasu hasn't written anything good since FSN.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 11:38:00 No.7272943 Report

Quoted By: >>7272952 >>7273298

Looking forward to the eventual remake with porn

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 11:41:00 No.7272950 Report

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>>7272938
Good thing he wrote MahoYo before Tsukihime then.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 11:41:00 No.7272952 Report

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>>7272943

I wish, but dang, was Aoko hot.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 11:52:00 No.7272972 Report

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Koyama Hirokazu isn't that bad at the art, with Takeuchi probably working on the Tsukihime remake CGs'. Still, there is a slight deviation in the style but nothing major so the art's still pretty good.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 11:54:00 No.7272975 Report

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YOU SAID THERE WOULD BE A SUKEEHEMAY REMAKE, NASU.

YOU SAID THERE WOULD BE A SACCHIN ROUTE, NASU.

STOP PRINTING MONEY WHORING OUT FATE/STAY NIGHT IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE, AT LEAST TO DO THIS ONE FAVOR.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 12:09:00 No.7272989 Report

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Even if it's All Ages, I just know my dick will be sore when (if) this comes out because of dat Aoko.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 12:12:00 No.7272994 Report

Quoted By: >>7273042 >>7273445 >>7274447

>Nasu: Sound is a very strong tool. The existence of voices can greatly affect a work's charm. However, each player has his or her own ideal voice for the characters that only exists in his or her own heard. I think this is one of the reasons characters from Tsukihime and Fate were so popular among gamers, because gamers can simply overlay their ideal voice over the characters. If the creators want a character to be loved by the players, they don't necessarily need to add in voices, forcefully impose their own vision onto the characters. In today's world, we feel very uncertain by not adding voices for characters, but still, we don't want to impose any specific impressions on the gamers, because human imagination is unmatched.

Excuses, excuses...

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 12:15:00 No.7273009 Report

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 12:15:00 No.7273010 Report

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>>7272952
"was"?

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Freezing !I8PjSaya5Y Tue 26 Apr 2011 12:19:00 No.7273018 Report

Quoted By: >>7273070

I read FSN without the voices.

Rin's voice was a turnoff.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 12:23:00 No.7273034 Report

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>>7273010

She looked more delicious when she was younger. Forgive me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 12:26:00 No.7273042 Report

Quoted By: >>7273053

>>7272994
If only someone were to invent some kind of "option menu" that allowed you to disable voices, so everyone could be happy.

I apologize, I know I am speaking madness, a man can dream, though.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 12:27:00 No.7273052 Report

Quoted By: >>7273070 >>7273443

>However, Soujuurou saw some major changes. The original character used to be a "gloomy," "naïve," "expressionless, good-looking young man. Mr. Koyama suggested a new character for Soujuurou. After a long and troublesome discussion between me, Takeuchi-kun, and Mr. Koyama, and through Mr. Koyama's suggestion, Soujuurou became someone who is closer to a normal male student.

Why do they have to make their characters either emo or beta? They can't freaking make a male character cool for all it's worth?

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Freezing !I8PjSaya5Y Tue 26 Apr 2011 12:27:00 No.7273053 Report

Quoted By: >>7273076

>>7273042
There is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 12:35:00 No.7273070 Report

Quoted By: >>7273443

>>7273018
>Rin's voice was a turnoff.
but kana ueda

>>7273052
I thought shirou was kind of cool

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 12:39:00 No.7273076 Report

Quoted By: >>7273120

>>7273053
Which is exactly why Type-Moon has no excuse to not include voices. Good voice actors can make stories all the better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 12:56:00 No.7273116 Report

Quoted By: >>7273371

Type-Moon is entry-level shit that rehashes the same boring character archetypes and terrible cliches over and over again. Why haven't you fucks graduated to something better, like Saya, G-Senjou, Stein's gate or Muv-Luv?

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 12:56:00 No.7273119 Report

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>Nasu: If Aoko is the witch that blends in with today's world, then Alice is the elusive witch like those found in fairytales, matching most people's vision of a witch who lives in the middle of a forest, a girl who is trying to protect something from the outside. Although she distances herself from the rest of the world, but due to Aoko's outgoing personality, she can't help but feel some connection to others. Alice is also a prototype for a typical TYPE-MOON heroine, like Tsukihime's Hisui, someone who is just barely out of reach. Alice's design didn't change match either, to sum it up in Takeuchi-kun's words: "if you like it, then draw it as you like." In Tsukihime that would be Hisui, she's his favorite, and the design was finalized in the very beginning.

Yes, a clear favorite even by the devs. I am going to HHHHNNNNGGG all over her design and appearance. Screw everybody else.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 12:56:00 No.7273120 Report

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>>7273076
The truth is that there's no voice sugoi, sexy and youthful enough to play young Aoko.
Older Aoko is a different matter as that's SUGOI SUGOI, sexy and some other traits.

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Freezing !I8PjSaya5Y Tue 26 Apr 2011 13:09:00 No.7273147 Report

Quoted By: >>7273177

>Saya, G-Senjou, Stein's gate or Muv-Luv?
it's not fun enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 13:14:00 No.7273177 Report

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>>7273147
More like not sexy enough.
None of those have characters as erotic as Archer, Lancer, Kotomine, and the like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 13:50:00 No.7273298 Report

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>>7272943
Because Aoko can only belong to Shiki and no one else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 14:15:00 No.7273371 Report

Quoted By: >>7273375

>>7273116
>that rehashes the same boring character archetypes and terrible cliches over and over again
It wouldn't be so bad if they were, you know, making new games. Publishing your high-school chuuni stuff can only take you so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 14:16:00 No.7273375 Report

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>>7273371
It's taken him pretty damn far so far

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 14:41:00 No.7273438 Report

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So his inspiration to start writing again was eva, and the first thing he writes has a normal Japanese boy a strong willed girl that will later become a red head and a anti social quite girl? alright then

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 14:43:00 No.7273443 Report

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>>7273052
>>7273070
shirou and shiki both were pretty cool, I was actually surprised how much character they gave shirou. While shiki is bad ass we don't really get much on him Shiki however, we pretty much get an entire route about him.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 14:43:00 No.7273445 Report

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>>7272994
But what he's saying is true.

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Freezing !I8PjSaya5Y Tue 26 Apr 2011 15:01:00 No.7273492 Report

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Nasu loves no, WORSHIPS Evangelion.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 15:05:00 No.7273502 Report

Quoted By: >>7274427 >>7274446

I hope Yoru bombs, just enough to make nasu desperate.

Once he's desperate he'll make he'll remake everything with everyone routes.

He just has to taste that cold wind of poverty.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 20:26:00 No.7274427 Report

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>>7273502
That's like hoping the next title by Key fails. (I don't necessarily mean Rewrite here, just a general "next title")
It won't happen.
Japan currently loves the two enough that it just won't happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 20:34:00 No.7274446 Report

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>>7273502
This post is fucking gold
"Fucking Nasu sitting on his money and only rehashing shit, I hope he gets poor so he won't have any other choice than to rehash shit"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 20:35:00 No.7274447 Report

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>>7272931

>Wanking to the fight sce-

What? Are there gonna be none? There seemed to be CGs of Aoko doing magic, so there still could be magi battles.

>Hope for cameos from oth-

I bet Zelretch will pop up.

>>7272994

>Excuses, excuses...

Actually that's the exact same reason I turn off voices in every VN I can.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 20:54:00 No.7274482 Report

Quoted By: >>7274487 >>7274492

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 20:57:00 No.7274487 Report

Quoted By: >>7274495

>>7274482

There will be sounds and music, but voices are another thing entirely. Like he said, when reading without voices, you can have a "perfect mental voice" for a character. If they're voiced and the voice actor sounds nothing like the mental voice you created in your mind, it can detract from your enjoyment.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 20:57:00 No.7274490 Report

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I'm sorry, I don't buy into this "no sound is better" when it comes to visual novels. These are not books, christ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 20:58:00 No.7274492 Report

Quoted By: >>7274499

>>7274482
music is going to be included, it's just voices
go watch anime if hearing people talking is so important to you

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 20:59:00 No.7274495 Report

Quoted By: >>7274504

>>7274487
Well I meant character voices when I said sounds.

>you can have a "perfect mental voice" for a character.
With the same logic he ought to write a book instead. Why add sprites/CGs when you could just leave it up to the reader's imagination how the characters look like?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 21:00:00 No.7274499 Report

Quoted By: >>7274502 >>7274515

>>7274492
Right, because it's not like 95% of all eroge today are voiced or anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 21:02:00 No.7274502 Report

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>>7274499
You're dealing with Type-moon fans. It's futile to argue with them because hey're coming up with shitty ass excuses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 21:02:00 No.7274504 Report

Quoted By: >>7274509

>>7274495

>With the same logic he ought to write a book instead. Why add sprites/CGs when you could just leave it up to the reader's imagination how the characters look like?

Imagination is much easier for voice than it is imagery. Different senses, broseph.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 21:04:00 No.7274509 Report

Quoted By: >>7274517

>>7274504
That doesn't detract from the fact that not giving the reader an option whether or not to keep voices on is an extremely poor decision.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 21:06:00 No.7274515 Report

Quoted By: >>7274527

>>7274499
How does that have to do with anything? Sure, it's standard practice to have voiced characters. Does that automatically mean not having voice characters is a dealbreaker? Only if you're extremely an extremely shallow reader.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 21:06:00 No.7274517 Report

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>>7274509

Admittedly so, but I don't think it's a very big deal to get upset over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 21:08:00 No.7274524 Report

Quoted By: >>7274529

There are at least going to be h scenes to make up for the lack of interactivity and voices, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 21:08:00 No.7274527 Report

Quoted By: >>7274534 >>7274549

>>7274515
>Does that automatically mean not having voice characters is a dealbreaker?
The game will be about 15 hours long. It will have no voices and no H-scenes, yet it costs the same as a fully-fledged VN. How the fuck do they justify the price?

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 21:09:00 No.7274529 Report

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>>7274524
We've already gone over this and it sounds like you're just trying to stir up further trouble.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 21:11:00 No.7274534 Report

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>>7274527
They don't need to. Type-moon fans in Japan and the West alike will scoop up the shit nasu has shat on their plate.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 21:14:00 No.7274544 Report

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ITT: pic related.

Fuck you all. I will believe in Nasu's judgement and follow him through the end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 21:15:00 No.7274549 Report

Quoted By: >>7274553

>>7274527
Well, the price is another matter. I was just talking about people saying no voices is like releasing an incomplete game.
Are you telling me you are (were) going to buy it? Sounds to me you're just attacking the game with unfounded complaints to smear shit on the company. Which is fine, I guess, if extremely petty.
Type-Moon is not the only company that released a short game at full price, and if you ask me the art and the little music samples we got do deserve that money. Your mileage may vary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 21:17:00 No.7274553 Report

Quoted By: >>7274592

>>7274549
>Type-Moon is not the only company that released a short game at full price,
But said companies have to pay VAs, which actually justify paying full price. The only companies that don't voice are because they can't afford it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 21:19:00 No.7274566 Report

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>>7272931
I am sad that we are not getting mollusk.
I mean I always wanted to tap that redhead since I saw her in Tsukihie.
I wonder if the Tsukihime remake will have an Aoko route?
Onee-chan type girls are always the best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 21:23:00 No.7274577 Report

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It is my personal hope that the finale of Mahoyoru will be Aoko dying her brown hair into a vivid blood-red.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 21:25:00 No.7274582 Report

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 21:32:00 No.7274592 Report

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>>7274553
>But said companies have to pay VAs, which actually justify paying full price.
There's lots of costs involved in a game, not just VAs. As I said, it looks like it will have a lot more unique CGs than normal, and just look at the detail. It doesn't mean he spent less than a normal full price game just by cutting VAs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 21:44:00 No.7274608 Report

Quoted By: >>7274644

Has there been any mention of the resolution?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 22:02:00 No.7274644 Report

Quoted By: >>7274676

>>7274608
1024x576

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2011 22:15:00 No.7274676 Report

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>>7274644
LOL

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 16:14:00 No.7277513 Report

Quoted By: >>7278024

>>7272850
any other song up in the net? OP perhaps?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 20:10:00 No.7278024 Report

Quoted By: >>7278062

>>7277513
Only the ED has been announced.

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Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 20:25:00 No.7278062 Report

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>>7278024
There is the song on the website of the game too

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