Ok, need some opinions /k/omrades.
I recently purchased this Cold Steel USMC NCO sword and got it in the mail today. I bought it off amazon out of convenience. Here's a link to what I bought:
http://www.coldsteel.com/usmc-nco-sword.html I plan on making it a wall hanger, but I liked the idea that it was a real sword which is why I got it instead of the cheaper replicas. It's advertised as a true 1050 steel sword that is battle ready. In all the advertisements I've read it says it comes sharpened.
Well this one, while it's definitely a real sword with a solid brass pommel and all and t looks REALLY nice, is NOT sharp. It did come with a British proofing test certificate, but I don't know why it's not sharpened as advertised, since everyone else on the internet says theirs is sharp on arrival. Also, it does have the "Cold Steel" logo etched on, but it has "INDIA" etched on it too, which I wasn't expecting. So I'm thinking it may be a Windlass sword?
Anyway, would you guys keep it or send it back? On the plus side, I guess I could do sword manual with it since it isn't sharp, but it IS heavy, at around 4 lbs. But then again I wanted a real, sharpened stabber to have on my wall.
Wat do, /k/? Wat do?
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Usually NCO and Officer swords are never sharpened. They're there for ornamental use.
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>>8776381 >They're there for ornamental use. *ceremonial
Derp.
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>we thought it was a shame that only unsharpened, poorly tempered wall hangers made of weak stainless steel are all that's available.
KM !hgcMxFhLmk
Kinda low carbon steel, exceedingly heavy... sounds like CS alright.
Now, regarding the edge, remember that a sword can be pretty damn far from a razor without being dull, cutting with a sword can be as much about pushing the material to the sides as it can be about dividing it in two. Of course, if it starts getting to the point of a single flanged mace... (Some 19th century swords were actually left at the "no edge at all" level, military one sin particular where the idea was to sharpen them up locally when necessary, if it ever came to that. So such an edge could be historically correct here. Though if the sword was advertised as a sharp then there isn't much of an excuse).
As for the "India" mark, CS don't make their swords on their own, they outsource that to various Asian manufacturers instead.
Overall though, if you don't have the training and intent to cut with it, then there isn't much use for an edge, so you may as well take it safe and go without:
http://www.swordforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53083 And sharp or not, if you put it on the wall, think about where you mount it:
http://brandonh.newsvine.com/_news/2006/03/07/123624-teen-killed-by-sword-falling-from-bedroom-wall Anonymous
>>8776510 Hey KM, if a common fighting style was a rapier and a gauche, did this carry over into the later small sword?
As in did one fight with a small sword and a "normal" (5-7") knife in the off hand?
KM !hgcMxFhLmk
>>8776536 I've never heard of any proper style/tradition/manual teaching such, but then again, it is rather outside of my normal hunting grounds so to say.
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>>8776555 >triples God smiling on you as usual KM.
Well I may be misinformed, but the small sword was pretty much just a shrunken rapier with a less complex hilt right? So would a small rapier be about the size of a large small sword?
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>>8776580 but the small sword was pretty much just a shrunken rapier with a less complex hilt right? So would a small rapier be about the size of a large small sword?Hm, I'm not sure if I dare sign off on that entirely, but there would at the very least be a number of smallswords and rapiers for which this relationship holds true, and IIRC we have some transitional forms bridging the two groups.
Of course, there's always oddballs as well. Bottom here is what might be a more or less "normal" smallsword, above that we have something spadroon-like, followed by a colichemarde-bladed smallsword (and early form, the wider part of the blade supposedly there to help parry full-sized swords and rapiers), followed by a pair of swords where at least the upper one is probably of full cavalry sword size, and finally something which looks like a smallsword in pretty much all ways, except scaled up by ten or twenty percent...
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>>8776211 >and all and t looks REALLY nice, is NOT sharp Cavalry sabers and the like never were razor sharp. If the blade is shaped properly, it can sever limbs. The half of the blade near the hilt was never even close to being sharp such that parrying other blades won't damage yours.
Take another look at the tip of that saber. Try stabbing a potroast wrapped in old bluejeans. Ask yourself again if it's "sharp."
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OP here. I understand the nuances involving sword sharpness. This sword arrived with a completely dull, 1/16 the cutting edge. In the advertised videos it's clearly "razor sharp", or sharp enough do do serious damage at the flick of a wrist. So then, since it arrived with the sharpness of a spoon edge, should I send it back and buy one that's sharpened at least a bit as advertised, or keep it? Do tell.
KM !hgcMxFhLmk
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>>8777027 In that case, we end up at this but:
>Overall though, if you don't have the training and intent to cut with it, then there isn't much use for an edge, so you may as well take it safe and go without: http://www.swordforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53083 If you don't need an edge, and aren't dead set on having one there anyway, then having the sword dull shouldn't be any disadvantage. Well, it might add some weight, but in this case that's probably along the lines of trying to save weight on a tank by stripping off the paint...
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How much did you pay for it on Amazon?
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fucking rainbow king of dick suck land !!DDm5Y17CuD8 Sun 01 May 2011 05:14:00 No. 8777135 Report Quoted By:
>>8777027 false advertising, return it at seller's expense.
