For a SHTF scenario, it seems a normal assault style rifle would be less than ideal. assault rifles are built for militaries that use numbers and are required to do maneuvers. in a shtf scenario it seems that hunting rifles would be the preferred primary weapon because the numbers would be smaller. what is /k/'s primary weapon in a shtf scenario and can you provide a rationalization. pic related, its my primary weapon.
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>assault rifles are only used in numbers
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If anything, I'd have a bolt action as a back up weapon and a semi-automatic as the gun I grab first. I'd have to say SKS because I know it inside out, it's easy to use, semi-auto, and uses a widely available caliber.
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>>8778592 assault rifles are good for engaging multiple targets at close-mid range distance. in a SHTF environment perimeter security would be paramount and encounters would come down to 1 on 1. or 1 on armed gang. both requiring a range advantage
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>>8778602 would a pumpshotgun be a possible alternative to your assault rifle.
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your telling me that a shtf scenario means I need something I need to use at 800 meters?
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>>8778624 It's not really an assault rifle or a battle rifle. It's an inbetween. Just Siminov Karbine. No pump action shotgun for me. It has a small magazine, takes a while to load, sort of wide spread, not at all good for smaller game, if it breaks it breaks for good, and shotshells are a lot more noticeable on the ground than a small laquered casing lost in the grass.
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>>8778583 How do I know you stole my picture... oh yeah:
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>shit-tier primary
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>>8778633 assuming you were not located in an epicenter, obviously the only goal at that point is escape. when SHTF escape from urban environs will only be the first step. sustaining and rebuilding/outlasting disorder will be the large factor.
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levergun all the way.
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Depending on how shtf, you probably don't need a lot of range. If it's a "social collapse" then you'd probably be better off with a decent pistol. Anyone with impure intentions probably isn't going to make those intentions clear until he's up close. You aren't going to be able to tell friend from foe at 300 yards, and carrying a rifle around everywhere is kind of asking for it.
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>>8778611 It's a strange day on /k/...
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>>8778669 my contingency plan involves trusting noone. if viable social networks are still an option it is not a SHTF scenario in my opinion. subscribing to the most convenient social order would require submission to any and all of their conditions, myne as well disarm completely.
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>>8778679 Summer fags...summer fags everywhere.
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>>8778697 oh shi-
>summerfags I had almost forgot...The time is nigh, there is little time to prepare.
THERE IS LITTLE TIME.
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>>8778669 Pistols are worthless, and telling friend from foe is worthless.
In the next social collapse, the ones who kill everything first and eat the most people wins.
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>>8778697 Fuck this. I'm out.
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>>8778679 Please tell me that's not a stockpile to be destroyed. If so, it's like the end scene of a sad movie. They're so beautiful.
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>>8778707 SAVE A SPOT FOR ME SAVE ONE OH GOD WHY DID YOU LEAVE ME.
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>>8778708 Yes, tis a destroying ceremony after trying to be imported to Bulgaria in 2004.
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Pic related
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>>8778690 I'm not saying you need to be buddy buddy with everyone, but shooting anyone you come across is a great way to make enemies and burn bridges
>>8778706 lolno, humans are social animals. We've evolved to live in groups and that'll be the best way to survive. You can't be awake all the time, you might get injured or sick. If you go it alone, you aren't going to be able to go on your retarded one man raid attacks.
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Depends on the exact situation. Generally if SHTF, I'm going to be holed up in a defensive position with my mossberg 590a1, glock 17 by my side. If the situation dictates me taking an offensive role, I'll be hiding somewhere else, engaging targets guerrilla style with my remington 700. But there are lots of variables which would alter what primary weapon I choose.
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>>8778722 I just realized that's a G3...
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>>8778722 I've wanted a cheap CETME for a while. I got to hold on to one for a friend for a few years. Nice little gun that ate just about any ammo (including nearly corroded over Portuguese shit).
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>>8778715 now these I like.
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>>8778715 The full might of the united states military should be brought down like a hammer upon bulgaria.
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>>8778714 SORRYYY!!!!
>>8778724 It was a sad venture indeed. But never fear, the BAFTE uses a junk yard in Washington DC area to scrap all of their possessed guns, so try and scout it out and save some!!!
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>>8778731 yea i agree, if you get into a position where you need to use a pistol ( a defensive weapon) then somewhere along the lines the plan got fucked up
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>>8778655 Think you got the right idea. A good .357 load out of a rifle-length barrel will fuck shit up. .44 mag would be even better for hunting, but then it wouldn't use the same ammo as your pistol and .44 mag is a lot less common than .357.
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1:1. the range/accuracy is going to be more valuable with a skilled guerrila (as opposed to an assault rifle)
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>>8778762 agreed
a good .357 lever is the way to go, ammo is all over and you can hunt deer and smaller with it just fine.
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What do you mean what kind of gun would I use? Why can't I just use them all? This way I have more variety, more ammo and can use much more of the ammo I scavenge. Why limit myself to one gun? Do all of my other guns disappear during the SHTF scenario?
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AR15 or .308 semi depending on the environment. If I had to pick one, I'd choose the 15.
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>>8778583 Actually, for a SHTF scenario a pistol would be ideal. Dual wield for maximum accuracy.
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>>8778836 It's gotta be right, it's in Black Ops! Treyarch knows their shit.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgr3kTU68uw Ak-47 vs hunting riffle...this video debunks the fear mongering of the public....so k related
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If SHTF, a .22LR will provide you with your daily ration of small game, and you'll be able to carry enough ammo to last through whatever journey you may be required to take.
Tyranno?oo
I believe in a light, handy carbine in a caliber that's readily available and also light and easy to carry, yet still is quite lethal. Some people have shit that is just way too fucking heavy and loaded down with gadgets. I don't really put stuff together or buy with SHTF as my primary reason though. I actually put my AR together with the thought of hunting antelope in mind as well as just having fun inna woods and getting proficient at using it since it will be my go-to home defense rifle. I want something that will be super easy to carry around on the prairie for days that I put on 10-15+ miles. You get all the try hard tweens with the "durp u shud work out if thatz to hevy" comments, but ask anyone who's actually had to carry a rifle up a mountain or over long distances and they'll tell you what's what.
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>>8778897 speed loader 1022 on a roof with over 90000 rds of 22lr head shooting zombies all day but seriously I could easily cart ammo to kill everyone in my district in one backpack in 22
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>>8778916 >triangle handguard >fucking telescoping stock Fix that shit, either old stock style or new handguard.
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>>8778897 actually a .22lr would be perfect for zombies. The silly "durp it bounces around inside skull" shit is lame, but a .22 to the head really does do the trick.
Now I'm not into the zombie shit, but you would have as much or more to worry aboot from fellow survivalists in that scenario and might want something a little heftier. The fellow survivor issue applies to all SHTF scenarios though no matter how silly or unrealistic they are.
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>>8778930 y dont u maek me Johnny
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>>8778942 Well, fuck. I can't. DAMNIT, DAMNIT, DAMNIT.
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>>8778946 That's what I thought.
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>>8778646 /k/ is an image board, get over it tripfag.
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>>8778934 this is what im getting at. haphazard gangs of negros will be easily out maneuvered/routed into manageable positions. Someone who chooses to stalk/hunt you intelligently will be the issue.
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>>8778961 Have you heard of sarcasm and humorous exchange?
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To be honest, if I were in a SHTF situation. I would have a bolt rifle with iron sights and a scope on quick release rings. A handgun as a backup and that's it.
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>>8778971 Sook sook sook, tripfag.
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>implying this isn't the best shtf rifle one could have
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>>8778646 shouldn't you be taking medication for your assburgers?
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>>8778583 my point is that these assault rifles are designed for the masses. When you run your own show and are your own man you can have the luxury of choosing your battles. Therefore, on that premise a hunting/sniper rifle is going to be the ideal platform to work off of.
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>>8779004 I want to agree, but the difficulties of optic mounting on the M1A make it a trickier proposition. A reliable magazine-fed .308 rifle is pretty much my ideal though... If I could find a Keltec RFB sold online for a reasonable freaking price I would scoop that shit up without a moment's hesitation.
Then of course there is the (pic related) option for the M1A, but that shit ends up heavy as hell.
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>>8779022 at the same time it also highlights the layered dynamics of any SHTF scenario. unfortunately, its going to come down to social factors, which is the overriding influence. all the problems that the SHTF dreamers hope to abolish will be multiplied ten fold
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shtfantasy
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I would use my sa vz.58 Mainly because I am buying it during next month and also because in shtf scenario it will be most important to have a good source of ammo. Dunno how much nugget ammo do you have in america, but here in czech rep. it is definately 7,62 round. That is also reason why all my guns are gonna be czech
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>>8779004 >>8779085 I would agree with this. A decent, reliable battle rifle would do the trick well. The M14 is pretty damn accurate, too. I'd also accept an FAL.
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Barrett .50 Cal and Gold Desert Eagle. I might have a SAW as well cause it shoots really fast. I want a RPG and GP-38 grenade launcher for my AK-74u with silencer.
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>>8779004 Thats what I was thinking.
Have that and a .45 ACP, keep your head low, eyes up and stock up on enough ammo and food, you would be golden.
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everyone spouting off choices with no rational does not help one bit. yea a FAL looks cool and has good statistics but what is your rational for making it your primary weapon.
Anonymous
If shit really did hit the fan you'd want a minimum of 3 firearms:
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>>8779160 It's reliable, reasonably accurate, rugged, and chambered in a powerful and readily available caliber. It's easy to strip and clean, and is an all around damn good shooter.
On the other hand, it's a bit on the heavy side, and longcat long. If you can overcome this, though, you're good to hook.
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If I didn't have room for 3 firearms, it would be my Remington 700 and Sig 226.
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>>8779171 people buy fals then cant afford the ammo to shoot em.
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>>8779182 Just how expensive is 7.62x51mm in your area, dude? Because it's not that bad back home.
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>>8779168 >mini 14 Don't you want to hit your target?
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>.308win >best SHTF rifle
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>>8779168 > carbine Agree, but not a Mini-14. Accuracy is shit, limited number
of proprietary mags, far more parts available for AR rifles.
> bolt gun A lever action would be acceptable.
> 22lr Of course.
I add; a handgun, preferably a .38/.357 revolver. In a SHTF
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>>8779225 ... ok, do I live in some sort of parallel dimension where .308 isn't difficult to procure? Didn't they have battle packs of German 7.62 NATO for, like, fucking cheap on AIMsurplus not long ago?
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so the consensus seems to be that there is no SHTF scenario. SHTF is just an idealized point in time where you get to use whatever weapons you have and become a hero. i am saddened but i understand.
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>>8778962 > Someone who chooses to stalk/hunt you intelligently will be the issue. If they are intelligent, they will most likely avoid conflict. Conflict breeds uncertainty, uncertainty leads to danger.
A true survivor keeps to himself.
