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/k/, what do you keep in your shotgun's tube? I hear a lot of people put different kinds of shot in their tube for different purposes - birdshot, buck, buck, slug, shit like that. It's something I never understood really and it seems like most people do it just because they can. You can't determine what kind of ammunition you will need in any situation; if you are defending the inside of your home and the immediate area around it, you should only need some good quality buckshot. How do you know that your third shot is going to need to be a slug when it could just be filled with buck? If you are fighting at a distance then keep plenty of slugs on hand, or you can just use Federal tactical buckshot which hardly spreads. If you are engaging a target further than that, we aren't really using a suitable weapon. Explain what you keep in the tube, the order, and why.
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I have a bolt action 10 gauge I keep for home defense. 1st shell is bird shot (will fuck someone up but do little collateral damage to house). 2nd and 3rd shells are slugs. Cause if I need a 2nd and 3rd shell I want to make sure as fucking hell I don't need a 4th. Mag is 3 round capacity.
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00 Buck. Fuck my neighbors.
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8+1 loaded with all confetti rounds at the moment
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Bird shot. I dont want to kill other people accidentally and go to jail for it. Just the intruder.
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In the Ithaca are a half and half of:>Winchester 3" slug (sabot) >Winchester Super X #1 buckshot 3" Why? Because if someone breaks in, I want them dead. I give little care for my walls and personal property.
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There's a video of both the birdshot and the shotcup/ wad penetrating a couple layers of dry wall. I live in a house with brick exterior walls so buckshot all the way. Not gonna try using birdshot under the guise of it being safer. Either it's gonna kill or it isn't.
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hahahahahahahaha! People use birdshot for HD.
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>>8779023 thnx bro. I havent seen that vid yet.
i guess i'll start loading some 00 buck shot in it then.
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>>8779023 Drywall is only the first layer and frankly the least expensive to fix. Where birdshot will penetrate drywall and do little else buckshot will go right through it and fuck up wiring, wall joists, plumbing etc..
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Yeah sure thing; drywall is weak as hell. I bet a penny fired from a slingshot could penetrate.
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>>8779042 My question is what about plaster & lath?
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>>8779049 My question is why are you idiots worried about the house and not worried about actually putting the intruder down for good?
You want to kill him not mess up his face.
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>>8779054 On top of this, if youre worried about missing why dont you fucking learn to practice to actually hit what you aim!
Christ, empower yourself, dont downplay your capabilities. be confident. Otherwise all youre going to do in a home invasion scenario anyways is piss yourself.
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Remember that time that Cheney put a load of birdshot into his hunting buddy's head at 5 feet and the guy made a full recovery? I don't want that happening to the crackhead who jumps through my window. 8 rounds, 00 buck.
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>>8779049 Because some of us own our homes which also means we are the ones footing the bill to fix it.
>>8779049 Birdshot should bounce off lath&plaster with little to no damage.
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I'd only use birdshot as a last resort; say I run out of buckshot. If I run out of buckshot there should be a mess of bodies.
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>>8779054 If you see what I have, you'll notice that I really don't care what happens to this dump. I'm just curious about plaster & lath since it is a wall material of stronger construction than sheet-rock.
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I just keep #8 bird in my tube because my house has a lot of turns, plus I have family so I don't want it penetrating like buck would
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8 2 3/4" 00 buck. I'd prefer #1 but shit is expensive
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>>8779062 Oh trust me. I own a house here. I know where my room mates are, and where my non-firing areas are in the house. Not worried about damage to the house if it comes down to it.
More worried about the gangsta/crackhead/cartel member breaking into my house hitting the ground and never getting back up.
My wife has mexican friends. They will fix up the holes and give us a great deal as well Im sure.
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>>8779061 Birdshot first to incapacitate, slug to the chest second when he's on the ground screaming in agony to kill. no chance of a costly mistake and you can simply tell the cops "he must be on something, the birdshot didn't drop him".
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>>8779071 You are telling me. $1 per round is cheap to me.
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In the tube, I keep 00 buckshot. In the side saddle, I keep slug. At night, I put one of the buckshot rounds in the chamber and top off the magazine with one of the slug rounds. Why? Because. And what the fuck is up with this nearsighted/farsighted CAPTCHA bullshit?
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All buckshot all the way. If I lived in the country Id use slugs. Pic related, its my home defense guns. Also, only faggots use birdshot for anything other than hunting small animals.
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2 3/4" 00 buck in the right, 3" 00 buck in the left. whatever i had time to stuff in my pockets after that.
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Anything ammo that has the ability to instantly neutralize a person is going to go through your drywall. Birdshot is made for birds. There's that story of the cop who was practicing with birdshot with his patrol shotgun, forgot to unload the birdshot and load buck back in, got into a gunfight with someone, unloaded the whole magazine on the bad guy, and the bad guy killed the cop and got away. Know how your gun patterns with the ammo you have. Test out various ammo types and see which one gives you the tightest shot pattern. As long as you can aim straight, putting a shot on center mass shouldn't send your neighbors puppy to an early grave as long as all the shot makes it on target, and there's no reason it shouldn't within the ranges you'd see in the average house. I'm not saying that birdshot won't kill people. I can say for sure that anybody taking buckshot at center mass is not walking away in good health, and will probably drop him on the first shot. Birdshot just doesn't have the penetration to get in to the vitals and instantly kill someone. It's going to make really nasty shallow woulds and probably make the person bleed out, maybe ruin a lung, but it's going to take more than one or two shots to kill someone quickly, and the last thing I want is someone who is potentially armed having enough time to try to kill me while I fill him with birdshot.
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Dick Cheney accidentally shot a guy here at point blank with bird shot and the guy was fine. A good reason not to use bird shot on people.
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>>8779152 bingo.
Federal Premium Tactical looks good--it's got a shot cup that acts something like a sabot, holding the shot together much longer after leaving the barrel than most do.
I'm kind of curious about that Centurion Multi-Defense load... a .650 caliber ball plus 6 buckshot pellets. Trying to be the best of both worlds.
Eh, I'll probably just stick to 3" #4 buck...
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>>8779185 They're supposed to be pretty good.
Personally I'm sticking to buck and keeping slugs handy for long targets. If I'm taking a long shot, I don't need the extra buck.
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>>8779184 "point blank" is actually a pretty big range
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>>8779202 exactly its all about perspective hell i bet some people think 100yds is point blank.
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>implying I have a tube 2 magnum express buckshots currently
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Totally expected some texASSbabe in this thread. Don't own a shotgun worth mentioning the load of : break action 20 gauge. I keep some 3" shells of "high velocity" steel birdshot.
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>>8779199 Dat foregrip.
Anybody know what kind it is?
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>>8779221 How many birds you shoot with your spent hulls?
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>>8779283 >12 gauge pistol. Dumb.
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>>8779283 Would probably looks silly on anything longer than that. And wouldn't be long enough to get a good hold of without stretching a bit if used with a stock. Damn.
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>>8779229 20 gauge will get the job done.
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>>8779251 right after I put down 2 milk jugs
confirmed kills
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>>8779185 The centurian load kicks ass. I emptied 8 rounds out of my winchester 1300 and the load prints great. .65 round ball in the center surrounded by the buckshot in a ring. It does kick pretty hard though (definetly harder than a regular 23/4" 00Buck load...I guess the ball is pretty heavy.
...oh, and fuck the neighbors..
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What kind of legal issues do you run into if you fire a weapon in an apartment complex? I'm pretty close to Chicago which is by far the shittiest area to be if you want to own a gun, but I brought my 870 with me regardless for home protection and only have some extra birdshot from back home. Majority rules birdshot sux for home invasion?
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Id only use bird shot on a home intruder if they were a midget. I used to keep a couple of 000 buck in the tube of my mossberg 500, but recently I was sold on the idea of these" new" winchester home defense rounds that have a 1 oz rifled slug in it with 3 balls of 00 on top of it just incase I fuck up aiming I suppose. Im sure you can tell I have no consideration for my neighbors ( fucking loud alcholics probably wouldn't even notice me shooting anyhow)