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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 01:09:00 No.8781625 View View Reply Original Report

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Hey /k/, I have a question, say I want to disable a modern tank (disabling the tracks, killing the crew) and I don't have any fancy weapons. Can I use a tin can full of thermite, and maybe some sticky substance coated on the can or a magnet secured to the can, to just lob at the tank? I mean surely if it lands on the entrance hatch or on the tracks the tank will be disabled right?

Blackadder !hDddafoU.A

Blackadder !hDddafoU.A Mon 02 May 2011 01:12:00 No.8781639 Report

Quoted By: >>8781648

I don't think you can take out a modern MBT with a can of thermite.

Plus if you can see it chances are it saw you five minutes ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 01:15:00 No.8781648 Report

Quoted By: >>8781650 >>8781658

>>8781639
Well I understand that the tank will have visuals on me first, but per ROE that most forces follow shouldn't it now engage me if I am not committing a hostile action? And if I have a few guys lobbing cans (or maybe coffee cans) full of thermite I'm thinking it should hit something important and stop the tanks somehow. My whole plan, if I should ever want to take out some armor, would be to lob and run.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 01:15:00 No.8781650 Report

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>>8781648
*not engage me

Blackadder !hDddafoU.A

Blackadder !hDddafoU.A Mon 02 May 2011 01:17:00 No.8781658 Report

Quoted By: >>8781673

>>8781648
Most ROE would cover that they would tell you to stay away from the vehicle. If you make towards it they'd shoot you.

Plus, a can of thermite isn't going to affect an MBT. The only way it could damage it is from the inside out.

Baris !AXguybfBVE

Baris !AXguybfBVE Mon 02 May 2011 01:17:00 No.8781659 Report

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If you are in an area with a hostile entity's MBT you should probably just get the fuck out.

If you wanna feel like rambo ambush some infantry and steal their shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 01:18:00 No.8781660 Report

Quoted By: >>8781684 >>8781703

1. dig hole
2. cover hole up
3. tank drives over
4. tank drops
5. fill with water
6. crew can't get out
7. ?????????
8. PROFIT

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 01:22:00 No.8781673 Report

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>>8781658
See, You're saying it wouldn't, but from what I understand, is that thermite can go through most metals, except tungsten and titanium, and that a tank is generally cramped, which means that a lot of important stuff is crammed into one area. So if I don't take the lobbing from the rooftops approach, and take the straight up cover it with molotovs and suppressing fire approach, I should get a few cans to land somewhere on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 01:23:00 No.8781679 Report

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thermite is basically just a really big, really hot match. you cannot burn through metal blocks of arbitrary thickness with a hand-thrown quantity of thermite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 01:25:00 No.8781684 Report

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>>8781660
this

or shaped charges
or for teh lulz, run up and somehow bend/cut the main gun

Blackadder !hDddafoU.A

Blackadder !hDddafoU.A Mon 02 May 2011 01:25:00 No.8781686 Report

Quoted By: >>8781704 >>8781718

>>8781673
Thermite can go through regular steel quite well

Western MBT's are made from alloys far stronger. If you put thermite on one, it'll just sit there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 01:30:00 No.8781703 Report

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>>8781660
also:
Because thermate burns at higher temperatures than ordinary thermite[citation needed], it has useful military applications in cutting through tank armor or other hardened military vehicles or bunkers. As with thermite, thermate's ability to burn without an external supply of oxygen renders it useful for underwater incendiary devices.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermate
muthafucking thermate instead if thermite

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 01:30:00 No.8781704 Report

Quoted By: >>8781717 >>8781763

>>8781686
Hmmmm, Interesting, well I guess only time will tell. I guess I'll do more research on thermite and tanks. Thanks for your input.

Blackadder !hDddafoU.A

Blackadder !hDddafoU.A Mon 02 May 2011 01:32:00 No.8781717 Report

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>>8781704
There isn't any research

Countries don't release the specifications of their tank armour

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 01:33:00 No.8781718 Report

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>>8781686

You still need quite a lot of thermite to go through any appreciable thickness of steel. Thin sheet metal, yeah easy. Plates over maybe an inch? Not quite so easy. Sure the metal melts, but without a constant thermite source, it's just going to puddle up, make craters, bubbles, etc. without actually getting through. It it does it's going to be a small hole.

Most likely would take more than you can fit in a can small enough to be thrown.

In real life systems, not video game damage system bullshit, you have an incredibly low chance of actually scoring hits on critical areas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 01:40:00 No.8781754 Report

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I have seen thermite do some massive damage to pretty thick steel, but that was from a directed source like the hole in the bottom of a ceramic flower pot. A tin can would melt very quickly, and you would just get shallower surface damage over a larger area. Thermite behaves like a liquid, it would flow off of the angles of the body. If you were lucky with the throw, you might be able to weld the hatch shut, or cause the turret to be welded to the body, but neither is even a mobility kill.

I still want to see someone test all this, though...

Blackadder !hDddafoU.A

Blackadder !hDddafoU.A Mon 02 May 2011 01:42:00 No.8781763 Report

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>>8781704
Look at it this way, you need about 300-400 grams of thermite to burn through a 1/2in thick steel plate

The shaped charge warhead on an RPG-7 can punch through 10 inches of steel plate

These same warheads bounce off MBT's like nerf darts. I don't think a little container of thermite is going to do anything besides scorch the paint.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 01:49:00 No.8781801 Report

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I don't actually care about what this thread is supposed to be about. I just love LAV-type things.

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