This Thread will deal with the ability to not only survive, but thrive, in a urban survival situation, weather it be due to natural disaster, SHTF, or just plain ole run of the mill bad luck.
The Salesman 2.0 !!6bag1sWZ4fb
For a non-societal collapse, i.e. bad luck, one would be more apt to carry a "Saturday Night Special" pistol such as a MP-25, J-22, or Lorcin of some sort. They are cheap, can be fixed with a pocket knife, and you're only out $40 if the gun is broken beyond all repair.
The Salesman 2.0 !!6bag1sWZ4fb
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Another tip for living close to the ground in the town.
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>a small .22 pistol or something. >Dumpster diving >take a shower in the sink and get water.
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Dumpsters behind bakeries are usually full of day or two old bread, donuts, and pastries.
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>>9588413 i got an add on for the food
most big name places like cub pour bleach on the shit they throw away so check to make sure the packages are sealed tight if you open the package and smell bleach throw it away.
go to SA and check their dumpsters after midnight that's when they throw out all the day old sandwiches and donuts.
little cesars does the same with their pizza if you can wait around back across the street or something around midnight that's when they start throwing shit away if you are fast you can get the pizzas still as hot as if you bought them.
try any bakery's too there's a bagle place near me that throws out all kinds of awesome bagles.
if you get the food that night and it wasnt put into a bag with other trash you WONT get sick ive been doing this for over 2 years and havent even gotten a stomach ache.
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>>9588499 >most big name places like cub pour bleach That's just fucking spiteful. I know they're in their right to do so but if it's going to end up in landfill anyway you may as well let some poor guy eat it.
The Salesman 2.0 !!6bag1sWZ4fb
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When eating local game as seen in the city (such as squirrels and birds) it would be ideal to clean and dress the subject seconds after blood letting. After you are done cooking the animal at a boil for at least 20 minutes, enjoy. But, don't throw the bones out! In the morning, the jellied meat left in the pot caused by leaching the gelatin and such from the bones in quite good.
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>Black guy lives in nice neighborhood and still tries to act thuggish.
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>>9588511 i know right? it's fucking stupid
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-Seven elevens typically throw food away just after midnight when something expires that day. I lived off this shit for months when I moved out of my moms and had my first apartment.
The Salesman 2.0 !!6bag1sWZ4fb
When searching for a suitable spot to set up in the city when you are homeless or just on down times, look for "The Road Less Traveled". Seriously, the less traveled areas of the town means that there will be less of a hassle from the local thugs, other people, and the police force. Areas like docks, abandoned factories, and freeway over-passes are ideal.
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>>9588546 Dunkin doughnuts does this as well.
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LEARN WHERE THE THRIFT STORES ARE!!
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>>9588577 >damn near new cot I bet that was comfy.
General Deadpool !!kBsp4Ukt12d
>>9588548 How the fuck do you not have a show on discovery?
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>>9588548 >You can fashion a hook using your pocket knife and heavy rope. Simply hitch knot it so the blade is halfway open and cannot open or close Don't do this. You won't find fish big enough at the docks, and you will risk losing your knife.
Use your blade instead to make a hook from wire, a thorn, or a gorge from wood or bone.
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The Salesman 2.0 !!6bag1sWZ4fb
>>9588587 They couldn't understand my mumblings and intense hatred on my audition tape. That and they found the necklace made of skulls rather disturbing.
But, no. I don't think I could cut it for TV. I can't even say a speech at a wedding.
General Deadpool !!kBsp4Ukt12d
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>>9588597 I have kind of the same problem.
I also tend to use obscenitys in my everyday speech, and that's a hard fucking habit to break.
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search construction sites you can find all kinds of cool shit
The Salesman 2.0 !!6bag1sWZ4fb
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>>9588591 Very nice.
>>9588592 You're going to need fresh water, right? Well, in the city and on the run there are many different ways to gather such potable refreshments. At the banks of a river or the dock, you can get two water bottles and a length of hose. Take the hose, run a length from one bottle cap to the bottom of the other. Then run another length from the other bottle's cap to a can or bucket filled with river water. Line the river bottle with a form of cloth and then fill with sand. Keep the river bottle below the bucket's water level and same for the other bottle in relation to the "filter". Simply suck on the end bottle's cap to get the suction started. You will want to boil this water for at least 10 minutes before consuming or treat it with a VERY VERY small dose of hydrogen peroxide/ filtering it through crushed wood charcoal.
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Get a multi tool, I've been able to open interesting doors with mine. Make friends as it's a lot safer camping in a group. Keep your eyes open, there's treasure everywhere, particularly in gated apartment complex dumpsters. Learn some skills if you don't already know any useful ones. You probably will have the time to teach yourself something basic. If you're just going to be a drunk then why are you still alive.
The Salesman 2.0 !!6bag1sWZ4fb
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When it comes to protection, try to avoid a confrontation at all costs. Say if you're living in the abandoned office building on Broadway and some chucklefucks break in one day to screw around. Toy with them, hide, do something. Just try not to make a confrontation. Hell, toss a radiator down the stairwell. If worse does come to worse, fight dirty. You've got nothing else to lose. Use anything at hand. In the office scenario, you could use a stapler or keyboard that you found as a bludgeon. If you want more of intimidation, use the fire ax.
General Deadpool !!kBsp4Ukt12d
As a former emt, I must add that first responder skills may come in handy, emt-b if you really want to fix yourself up. However, you may not want to wade through all that shit. If that is the case pick up an army survival manual, they cover basic care. The survival techniques are more suited to the wild than an urban environment, though.
The Salesman 2.0 !!6bag1sWZ4fb
>>9588657 An upholstery needle, fishing line, and candle is all the average homeless person needs for the worst. It may not be pretty and it may hurt, but it works.
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If you have a weapon, don't let anyone know about it until you're using it on them. If you're gathering recyclables, know that some homeless people are territorial and might confront you or even attack you for $2 in plastic bottles. Always watch your mouth, not everyone shares your humorous sensibilities. Abandoned cars make good crash spots. Watch out for black widows, they're everywhere. seriously.
General Deadpool !!kBsp4Ukt12d
>>9588663 It doesn't hurt to be prepared going in, though.
Also, not alot of hobos know how to properly splint a fracture or care for a wound or how to treat frostbite.
I don't often stitch, I prefer to cauterize when possible. But that's....that's because I get a sick thrill out of the way it feels.
The Salesman 2.0 !!6bag1sWZ4fb
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Make a hammock out of some good rope. It's not very hard, even you guys can do it. Tie that sucker off up a tree and you can literally sleep anywhere, no one will ever see you.
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>>9588663 >but it works. It works in what way? You must make sure wound is free from debris before closing, and that thread is sterile.
Closing a wound with debris in it will cause it to become infected, and you will die.
Being able to treat wounds with minimal tools is important, but you also need to know what you are doing.
Guys, read up on the basics. Buy a book like "Ditch Medicine" Forget pre-made FirstAid Kits. Make your own, and you will learn better what tbhings are for.
Things like betadine, bleach and hydrogen peroxide serve multiple uses. Can disinfect both wound and water.
The Salesman 2.0 !!6bag1sWZ4fb
>>9588694 I slept on roofs. It was a pretty nice deal, and if it rained you just had to pull over a tarp.
The Salesman 2.0 !!6bag1sWZ4fb
>>9588697 I do believe the basic person with the proper intellect can wrap themselves around debridement, cleansing, suturing, sealing, and preventive care. Not all that hard.
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You can get a ride clear across town in an air conditioned ambulance for free if you just fake difficulty breathing. When you get to the emergency room simply say that you feel ok now, and walk out. Beats the bus or thumbing.
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>>9588698 was this when you were a little kid in chechnya??? ffs you seriusly need to write a biography. put it up on mediafire or something and leave a link for a paypal, so if people really liek the book they can pay for it. easy way to fund future projects and we get to hear about your life!
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>>9588699 >I do believe the basic person with the proper intellect >basic person >proper intellect You're a funny man.
Don't give regular folks so much credit.
Their only experience with emergency medicine is band-aids and re-runs of ER.
That said everyone would benefit from incrasing their knowlege on the subject, no matter their current level of proficency.
The Salesman 2.0 !!6bag1sWZ4fb
>>9588718 No, this was when I first moved to the US and I hadn't gotten my money yet.
No writing for me, I'm no good at it.
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>>9588718 >was this when you were a little kid Dude, plenty of kids slept like this for fun. Sometimes it would get too dark to go home and I would stay outside and camp on the beach. I was like 12.
Then in the moring we would look for jewellery stupid drunk tourists had lost the night before.
Hell we didn't even take water most of the time. Just drank from streams. Nobody cared, or ever got sick.
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>>9588726 >that feeling when you realise johnnylabs will end up blowing himself up while working on some crazy batshit insane idea and you will never know the full tale of his insane life. The Salesman 2.0 !!6bag1sWZ4fb
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>>9588735 I worked with a Serbian man for a while. Sounds like you and him are the same exact person.
"When I was a child, we did not have running water. We did not want to return home, so we drank from puddles. We do not care, we were children."
Oh, Mr. Misic.
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>>9588694 You can make hammocks from tarps and blankets too. Or even billboards. Billboars are made from canvas material, and make great shelter.
To make a hammock just tie ends in a knot, and run a rope from the knowt to a tree, pole, etc.
Personally I like the mayan style better. I prefer sleeping like this (see pic), instead of legthwise along the hammock.
And ou can sleep in a lounging position too. You don't sleep as deep this way and can remain more alert.
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The Salesman 2.0 !!6bag1sWZ4fb
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>>9588740 Never fear, I'll write some form of memoir before I expire. I'll have my POA post it to /k/.
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>>9588756 >>9588761 >just tie ends in a knot, and run a rope from the knowt Like this. But with a blanket the knot ends up being thicker, and more solid.
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Why don't you people just get a job?
Professor Clip Magazine !!kBsp4Ukt12d
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>>9588795 Another one? I don't even like the one I have now, why would I get another?
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>>9588795 Why get a job? Just so I can work all year and get a few days off to go camping? Why not just camp all the time.
Danger
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>>9588839 I've been homeless, don't knock it til you've tried it bro.
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>>9588845 I lived in the woods from October till Febuary with very little supplies and almost no food.
I was so hungry i seriously considered killing a store owner and taking a bunch or ramen, hell if the police caught me i would get fed and get shelter. Thats how bad it was.
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>>9588814 Forgot this one
http://www.squattheplanet.com/ Lots of faggots, liberals, andd hipsters here, but some good info.
/trv/ often has hobo threads aswell
un/k/nownuser !4changtcqk
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>>9588499 >most big name places like cub pour bleach on the shit they throw away so check to make sure the packages are sealed tight if you open the package and smell bleach throw it away. if you're down on your luck and come across that just eat it anyway. then sue the spiteful cunts. I'm sure some hack lawyer will take up the fight on your behalf for a percentage of the winnings.
The Salesman 2.0 !!6bag1sWZ4fb
>>9588862 Why, if I may be so bold as to inquire?
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>>9588862 >Killing for Ramen. Holy fuck no wonder you are homeless. Think outside the fucking box.
Just walk to a farm and ask for food in exchange for labor. For a day's work you will get more tomatoes, beans, watermelon, squash, pumpkin etc that you can carry.
This is how it works at least in Europe.
Anonymous
>>9588871 Really long story. Time for some greentxt
>Moms sister dies (my aunt) >Mom flips her shit >Stepdad moves out >My freind comes over, i was smoking weed heavily and taking pills >He fucks my mom >Moves in >A bunch of his/my friends move in >8 at the end of it >oh shit nigga im selling weed, hes selling crack, moms on meth, cousin sellin pills >get robbed >Feds move in across street and watch for 6 months >big bald black man would take pictures of me from his kitchen. >I get robbed personally for weed >they kick me out >by this time i have been going hungry for about two months eating out of garbage cans and shit like that, i started breaking into houses >Oh shit nigga get kicked out by my friend >live innawoods >leave with my cousin/granny >go to college yada yada yada The Salesman 2.0 !!6bag1sWZ4fb
>>9588881 I'm glad that you situation has improved. It takes a strong will to overcome such hardship. I salute you.
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>>9588893 I havent overcome it. I drink everyday, and i smoke alot of weed. I self medicate, i tried to kill myself so many times, i think 25. I put a gun to my head and pulled the trigger but it was a piece of shit that only worked half the time. I still feel bad for not doing it in the end. I question my entire life. Shit sucks man.
Btw, im the Op
I used to work as a nurse at the local (big city) ER trauma center.
i think i have ptsd.
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mfw when previous post miraculously disappeared...
>>9588875 Working for food at farms should be possible, but we were talking urban survival. Also, consider places without farms, or with long winters/autumns with little manual labour and finding such work may not be possible
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>>9588909 Go catch caviar in the baltic!
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Reposting: mfw /k/ is full of ex-homeless people
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>>9588955 /k/'s idea of being homeless is urban exploring and camping in their peaceful sedentary suburban neighbourhood for a weekend then moving back into their mother's basement and pretending they've just gone through a deep grimdark experience.
Unless you're on drugs and sport massive unkempt facial hair you're not homeless.
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>>9588996 >drugs and massive unkempt facial hair Sounds like /k/ alright
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What do you guys suggest for keeping gear safe? Do you carry everything with you oor just take out a daypack? Where do you leave the rest of your stuff?
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Hobos travel to work. Tramps travel to not work. Bums can't work or travel, they just get high and drink. And "homeless" people have an attitude problem. I lived outdoors for months at a time, and I never once felt like I was "homeless." Wherever I was, that was home. "Serious Tramps Keep A Clean Camp." I believe that, too. Being homeless is not about being POOR. It's about being WHIPPED DOWN and NO-ACCOUNT. There's no reason to go around all filthy and dirty. The people that do that sort of shit are mentally ill, for real. I don't believe in panhandling. Working like a squeegee tramp is okay, but no begging, and no stealing. That sort of shit lacks dignity.
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>>9590328 Stash spots are good if they're ingenious enough, but the tweakers today get into anything and everything so it's hard to find good ones, let alone one. I used to hide drugs inside drainage pipes behind businesses.
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>>9590509 most of them ARE mentally ill, blame Reagan for shutting down nearly all the mental hospitals
way to let someone with senile dementia let all the other crazy folk free, America
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Local swimming pool is your best bet for a shower, and if you're lucky enough that it's indoors or heated, you can warm up if its cold outside and get exercise.
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In a SHTF scenario, rabbits make an excellent food source. They reproduce quickly and can pretty much just eat grass. It would be easy to maintain a relatively small herd of rabbits and still eat well for 3 days a week.
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Please upvote this in the archive. This is good information for anyone who visits this board.
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ITT, we discuss Advanced Hoboism.
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MFW Government agents started this thread because they know whats comming.
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>>9591040 well if you are a good climber there are TONS of awesome places to sleep on top of buildings here's a pic from inside the fascia on a strip mall near me. to get into it you have to unscrew a metal panel at the bottom then it acts like a big door, then you crawl about 30 feet and BAM there's a nice sized room big enough for a cot and a bunch of other shit there is also a little air vent that lets a nice breeze in. also if you are crafty enough you can tap into the electrical lines that go to the electric signs outside. how many hobo's can say they have electricity in their house?
its bigger than it looks in the pic its about 8'x7'x9'
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Hiking is for mountains
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In my poorest moments i went tough a few times were in a roommate situation, we didn't pay the power bill for a month then those times where i barely ate anything all day or ate at work ie working at a fast food place but starving on the street, never got to that point for me.I wont let it happen.
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ive seen you mention this in other threads, clearly you have some fascination with the place - have you thought about trying to live there for a few days just as an experiment?
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>>9591075 That's pretty crafty, and part of the reason I mentioned getting a multi-tool earlier in the thread. There's more places like that than people realize. I found something similar to that once but I didn't stay there because I'm paranoid about leaking air conditioner gases and centipedes.
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>>9591177 How many homeless people actually know/do this?
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>>9588413 lol at pic of roody-poo
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>>9591242 There's a pretty large tramp and homeless population in my city, so there's a few of these floating around downtown. Some are regional though, with variations of the examples and other ones that are undecipherable. All in all though, not very many.
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>>9591177 >put friendly place in an unfriendly place >laugh Anonymous
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>>9591177 Not /k/ approved, no sign for strange room.
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>>9588435 The J22 is pretty much good as a paper weight and to beat some one with. The gun usually jams all the fucking time. You can easily spend about 40-50 bucks more, get yourself some thing a lil more reliable.
