So certain events have occurred and I've decided to be a millionaire instead of a nurse, mainly to avoid any misunderstandings, since any misunderstandings would be big misunderstandings.
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Probably not a good idea. I think the whole world's gone mad.
Anonymous
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Invest in yourself.
Anonymous
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Pens:
Anonymous
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I heard stocks in greed are on the rise.
Sambo Charles !TzcAECrLis
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>>2 The thing is I recently bet on Obama because it was a sure thing and in a month gained 20% returns on my investment. If I had such an opportunity every month I would gain 792% returns per year. Obviously you don't get such opportunities everyday but I would only need a fraction of that success to achieve my goal in a reasonable amount of time. The idea is to find more opportunities.
What risks are there? Obviously I need to lay a few ground rules.
1: Never invest more than you are willing to lose.
2: Always do your research.
2a: Take into account the competition, avoid bubbles and speculation, chances are if you've heard of a "hot stock tip" 1000s of others have also, 6 hours ago.
3: The goal is generally low risk medium growth, that is where most of the money will go.
I intend to "trade paper" first before I commit.
>>3 I've exhausted my investment potential.
>>4 I interpret "pen" as a metaphor for negotiation. I understand this concept well. A miller and a baker, if the miller sets the price of a kilo of flour at $1.50 the baker can get cheaper flour from the miller in the next town, if no one in town buys flour the miller can sell it in the next town for $1 plus shipping. The baker wants the cheaper flour but knows the miller will set the price at $1.49 if he doesn't bust balls, likewise the miller knows the baker will drive the price down to $1.01 if he doesn't call his bluff, however both the miller and the baker make less money by using the services in the next town. This is where negotiation comes in. If the baker is rich and can afford to hold out longer should it come to that this would play to his advantage, however the miller could pretend to be rich or claim the cost of shipping is lower and he can sell in the next town for $1.10 plus shipping.
>>5 This is a rational calculation, not greed. It is in the interest of the greater good that I get my million.
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>>6 It is in the interest of the greater good that I get my million.
Anonymous
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Invest in businesses that are smart enough to accept EBT cards. That's easy money. It rains freely.
Sambo Charles !TzcAECrLis
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finance.yahoo.com This is a good resource, I will start trading paper using this. However it will be simplified, I won't factor in capital gains tax, fees or other expenses I am unaware of.
>>9 You mean invest in businesses supported by the state?
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Invest in my anus
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Watch mad money and do what cramer says; you'll make mad money!
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>>10 Yes. A investment in a business that can't fail is a good investment.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20811266 BBC business says China is misallocating capital, possibly causing a bubble.
>>11 What are your predicted growth rates and how do you intend to reach them?
>>12 The problem is other competing investors will also watch this and I will end up investing in a saturated market.
I will take a look anyway in case I learn something.
>>13 It may not depend on economic viability but it still depends on political viability and can still fail in that respect.
>>14 http://safeweb.norton.com/report/show?url=crawlingroad.com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fail-Safe_Investing#cite_note-2 It seems to check out. Contains some interesting statistics. Active web forum. Maybe a bit pushy with that book. What else should I be looking at here?
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2 simple predictions...
1: The price of various scarce industrial minerals and metals are bound to increase in price gradually over time.
2: Stock in large popular companies like chevron and apple are erratic at the moment.
So with my imaginary $10000 to spend on shares, I will put $100 in copper and $0 in chevron and apple. We will see whether it was a good idea to put some money on copper and a mistake not to invest in chevron and apple.
28th Dec 12 prices. COMEX Jan 13 copper: $3.60/lb
LME Jan 13 copper: $7,871/tonne = $3.57/lb
Apple Inc. stock: $515.06
Chevron Corporation stock: $108.52
http://finance.yahoo.com/futures?t=metals http://www.lme.com/copper.asp http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=AAPL http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CVX Several low risk mutual funds had adequate growth rates despite the credit crunch, might have to look into that further.
I pretty much already knew all this, when I started the thread, I just never bothered with it.
The price 3 months ago and the change till now. copper: £3.7/lb
↓ 3%
Apple Inc. stock: $667.10
↓ 23%
Chevron Corporation stock: $116.56
↓ 7%
http://www.kitcometals.com/charts/copper_historical_large.html#6months Had I made the same decision 3 months ago I would have lost $3 due to my decision, it would have been in line with my predictions as copper is a long term investment.
Sambo Charles !TzcAECrLis
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The price of various scarce industrial minerals and metals are bound to increase in price gradually over time.
Not Moot
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I want to help. Moot posted in my thread asking. I'll help you moot
Sambo Charles !TzcAECrLis
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>>18 The general idea is to make reasonably accurate predictions that competing investors are unaware of. For instance if Nissan is set to grow and the news is plastered all over the media then speculators will pour their money into it and raise Nissan share prices excessively, the bubble will then burst and the share price will behave erratically, even though Nissan is a growing company this does not necessarily make it a good investment. You need to find growing companies that few have spotted.
At the moment I am still soaking up information to help me make these predictions, you can help me by providing me with more information. Other insights in general would be fine too.
Moot posted in my thread asking.Also which thread are you talking about? I don't remember.
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So the general idea is that when information becomes widely known it loses its value as an investment due to all the speculators saturating the market making it difficult to predict whether a decline is a slope or a trough or an incline is a rise or a peak. Am I being a cynic or a realist?
I have a magazine right here with such information, I will keep track of some of their suggestions.
Vertu Motors
41.17
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=VTU.L Apparently competent and successful motor retailer, from August till today they have increased 50%, looking back 5 years though I would classify it as stagnant-erratic in keeping with my theory. If its value is overinflated it doesn't matter if its a good company.
IGas Energy
130.50
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=IGAS.L Based on the decision to loosen some restrictions on fracking, they also seem to have a lot of information about their ownership of different gas fields (or whatever you call the gas version of oil fields), IGas seems to be waiting for their green light. Presumably the best time to invest would be immediately after the relevant government announcement or if you have in depth knowledge of the business and can properly assess risk. I will learn something by observing this.
Laird
206.80
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=LRD.L Long established electronics supplier which attracts the likes of Apple looking to expand. Before the credit crunch it peaked at 700, though its long period of stagnancy probably confirms that its current share price is more sensible. Information about the company's activities is obviously needed.
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Why don't nigger kids (niglets) play in the sandbox?
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>>23 Because that's where you sit and masturbate.
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These classifications of industry would be a good resource for taking a wider look at the economy, which will be needed to understand the bigger picture and hone in on potential hotspots.
http://www.nasdaqomx.com/classificationchanges/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industry_Classification_Benchmark amazon stock is interesting
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=AMZN http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=AMZN+Interactive#symbol=amzn;range=my;compare=;indicator=volume;charttype=area;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=off;source=undefined ;
Originally a dodgy dotcom, stagnanterratic (might as well make it a new word) for years, not significantly affected by the crunch, then taking off in 2009.
Will it continue to rise? Sticking to my principle of not taking unresearched risks I won't put any imaginary money on it yet.
Maybe I haven't been very active, I admit so far I have only bought $!00 of imaginary copper a while back, however I have already gained a more realistic view of the situation. I'm not going to pressure myself to invest more imaginary money, I will just continue to absorb more information.
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what happened to my tripcode
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I hereby confirm this was me.
>>29 Sambo Charles !TzcAECrLis
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My instinct is to push things to their limits, this means I am always optimizing and looking for ways to improve, however it also means I will eventually cross the line and make a mistake.
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>>34 Yeah, I heard you the first time you British piece of shit. <a href="mailto:sage">!L3
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>>37 I'm just saying you're just a little wuss, that's all.
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>>38 Hey. Why don't you stop ... dressing me like a mailman ... uh, and making me dance for you ... while you go and ... smoke crack in your bedroom ... and have sex with ... some guy ... I don't even know.
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How about a quick recap then.
28th Dec 12 prices. COMEX Jan 13 copper: $3.60/lb
LME Jan 13 copper: $7,871/tonne = $3.57/lb
Apple Inc.: $515.06
Chevron Corporation: $108.52
1st Jan 13 prices. Vertu Motors: 41.17
IGas Energy: 130.50
Laird: 206.80
30th Jan 13 prices. COMEX Jan 13 copper: $3.68/lb
LME Jan 13 copper (to sell): $8,015/tonne = $3.64/lb
Apple Inc.: $458.27
Chevron Corporation: $117.21
Vertu Motors: 41.15
IGas Energy: 103.50
Laird: 229.90
http://finance.yahoo.com/futures?t=metals http://www.lme.com/copper.asp http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=AAPL http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CVX http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=VTU.L http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=IGAS.L http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=LRD.L I was right to buy imaginary copper and not to bother with Apple and Igas which have plummeted and Vertu which is stagnant. I was wrong to dismiss Chevron and Laird. Igas averaged around 70 for much of the last year before spiking to 150 then plummeting to 100 in a matter of weeks.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e8b2e524-6151-11e2-9545-00144feab49a.html#axzz2JQ5EpaXG Seems to be typical speculation spurred on by the government, by the time I was reading about it in my out of date dodgy magazine that ship had sailed. Though, still worth observing.
Copper has increased 2.2% in 34 days, Laird 11.1% and Chevron 8% in 30 days. A mere 2% gains every month would result in 26.8% annualized returns which is over 3 times the amount I would need to obtain
muh million over a reasonable time period, I predict that copper will increase in value gradually due to resource depletion while fluctuating in the short term. I don't think carbon nanotubes will replace copper wiring as the most economical conductor any time soon.
My attempted fact finding missions on Chevron and Laird enrage and confuse me.
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2012/12/29/what-will-it-take-to-power-chevron-higher-in.aspx http://www.emsnow.com/npps/story.cfm?pg=story&id=49996 There is some news about the activities of these businesses and the usual speculators, however if I were reading this on the 1st of January I would still be skeptical, I don't even know where to begin. This must be the first challenge of putting my theory of using in-depth knowledge to gain an advantage over competing investors into practice.
Actually I do know where to start.
http://www.nasdaq.com/reference/barchart-sectors.aspx All these different industries have been nicely categorized, by first gaining a general overview of the economy we can gain an impression of potential future growth and hone in on hot spots and figure out where to direct the limited attention my feeble human mind is capable of.
The Raven
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>>41 I also get the edgar allen poe reference.
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>>44 Who is this edgar
allen poe fellow? Is he plagiarizing my work?
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>>45 I meant Edgar Allan Poe.
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This was posted by idpurpose !eoPD6MpjJM on the imageboard politically incorrect. He seems to have vastly more experience than I.
http://boards.4chan.org/pol/res/10602954#p10604222 ' ***********************This is my number one pick for first quarter of 2013
CNAM
Long story short the Chinese govt was on their ass, cutting their power, and cock blocking the company to get westerners out of the stock. Now that the company has become majority Chinese owned, the Chinese govt has just given their business the green light and tax breaks.
The company has a book value of over 34m dollars, but a market capitalization of only 7-8 million
It is foretasted to make 125-150 million in revenue in 2013, and gross profits of about 25 million. Net profit of about 15 million.
They also have 3 million in stock in Apollo minerals an Australian mining company.
The reason the price is low now is because everyone has given hope up on this company due to poor performance that was due to PRC intervention.
However the PRC officials in the area just took a large stock purchase offering in the company. There are a few people who got shares at .33 that were locked down who are now shorting them for instant profit at .40 cents. Even though this is not supposed to happen it does. There are about 200k shares left to short, so the stock will probably be under pressure until those share consolidate.
Late march they will report their year end results and due to skyrocketing iron ore and scrap steel prices they are forecast to report about .10 cents earning pershare in 4q 2012 report on march 26th
This stock is too small for institutional investors to notice yet. The price will be over 1.00 by end of april and probably over 3.00 by end of 2013. This is an extreme value growth company that got hit hard by govt intervention and now is free to make money. This is my easiest sure 5 bagger for 2013.
I will caution you to invest too quickly here. I predict the share price may stay under pressure for a few weeks or so. not below .30 though.
The thing that will propel this stock up is their year end report at end of march and their first quarterly report.
Use tdameritrade, it's easy
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Ohh i see you copied my post.
I have another stock to keep an eye on for Wednesday, which is more of a short term momentum play than CNAM. (which I consider a medium term hold at this point in time).
ANIK
Anika Therapeutics Inc.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=ANIK&ql=1 Here is the deal with this company.
It is a small cap about ~150 million
Has about 40 million in cash.
Book value 1.38, so very value priced for a biotech company.
Primary product is an FDA approved drug ORTHOVISC, used for osteoarthritis, joints cartilage regeneration ect. They have a long lineup of other drugs and products as well, but the first one is their biggest cash cow. Their joint pain drug is the industry leader with no competition on the market yet, and doctors love it becasue it is expensive and has a big markup for them so they love to prescribe it.
The company earns about .74 cents a year in profit after all taxes and expense. Also has an acceptable peg ration ~.5 good earnings growth.
Why the stock is down now: One of their follow up drugs got FDA denied, their CFO stepped down, reason unknown, claimed personal. Last quarter earnings was a big disappointment came in at .12 cents instead of .17 expected.
The reason for the miss however was becasue they had to expand their facility to handle increased demand for their drugs, the expansion interrupted the orders in process. Company states all missed orders form q3 will be shipped q4. Company recently reiterated that they will beat or meet their guidance. Analysts expect .24 cents a share earnings. And they should get imo .23-.30. However these earnings are masking a lot of costs they are absorbing, and in fact this quarter will be a record breaking revenue and gross profit for them.
market is scared about their fda miss and earnings miss. On Wednesday they will put to doubt their earnings issues. And they are retrying to get back though the fda, their new drug was already approved in europe and asia.
The same thing happened in q1 after a miss the stock declined and after their next earnings report q2 where they beat, the stock rose over 3 dollars.
Stock trades around 10.50-10.70 now. Buying it around 10.50 would be ideal if you can get it that cheap. I am looking for a minimum 1 dollar rise in pps rise on Thursday. Range 11.50-13 in the days following the earnings report on Wednesday. I see almost no further downside risk beyond short term possible price pullback due to overall market conditions imo
Always do your own dd make your own decisions on what you can afford to risk.. good luck
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This thread is missing something, what is it... hmmm...
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Tomorrow is the last day to get into ANIK, before what I believe is a rally.
Earnings report will be released after market close wed. And conference call is scheduled at 9:00 thursday morning.
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>>52 AIDSburger in 4chan!
AIDSburger and it ain't nice!
A little boy in Lounge
Dyin' of AIDS in the cold dark
How he got AIDS I haven't a clue
Wastin' away again because of AIDS and stuff
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>>54 Hey fat boy, I wanna make you cry
Hey big boy, play with ya dick for a while
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Hope you got in this baby is gonna run.. still not too late to buy tomm morning
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>>49 >>51 >>56 I have a tdameritrade account that I never use and I suppose I could make some token trades, what I am really interested in is developing a clear and full understanding of the economy, learning how successful investors conduct their research, making predictions of my own and observing how they play out.
Armco and Anika are both in sectors you would expect to be expanding. China's economic development was held back by tyranny and the state let go of the reigns in the late 80s allowing it to follow a text book sigmoid curve growth pattern, which we are apparently in the center of.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigmoid_function Technology is continuing to develop rapidly, most notably computing but also cellular biology, nanotechnology and materials science, pharmaceuticals and certain niche industries are going to benefit.
I think I mentioned graphene in the imageboard thread, there have been some very interesting developments recently that are worth repeating.
Graphene batteries.
http://www.wimp.com/supersupercapacitor/ Graphene solar power.
http://cleantechnica.com/2013/02/25/graphene-breakthrough-one-photon-can-be-converted-into-multiple-electrons/ ' They also have 3 million in stock in Apollo minerals an Australian mining company.I've heard of Australia's booming trade in minerals with the ever hungry China, that is probably good to see.
I am confident in my broader view of the economy, I am able to hone in on areas of growth but need to step up my game if I intend to find specific companies like Armco and Anika. The only way I could imagine doing so would be to pour over dozens of stock reports looking for businesses that might be undervalued and investigating further hoping I stumble across on. How did you come across these companies?
We discussed market capitalization ratios, you also looked at other indicators, revenue, profits, cash in hand and book value. As you mentioned, even though microsoft has a low market-capitalization/enterprise-value it is a large business that dominates its sector and pays dividends and may be a good investment. I am now wondering what other factors might change how someone should interpret these indicators. I am guessing the simplest way would be to compare the business to its competitors.
I gather that the 2 most important factors for future growth are the products of the business and the behavior of investors, both of which seem to dominate your analysis of these 2 companies. The actual practical activities of the business and the products or services it sells are fundamental of course, why you went to such lengths as flying over the China to check up on Armco, if more investors did this there would be far less bubbles and ponzi schemes destabilizing the economy and costing people jobs. The financial aspects are a major factor anchored to the practical elements of a business.
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>>49 >>51 >>56 ' >Primary product is an FDA approved drug ORTHOVISC, used for osteoarthritis, joints cartilage regeneration ect. They have a long lineup of other drugs and products as well, but the first one is their biggest cash cow.I guess most of that information is from their SEC filings but a few searches reveals that orthovisc has a few competitors. How did you find out that doctors receive a "mark up" for prescribing it?
Their SPO profile says this.
http://access.edgar-online.com/ipo.aspx?colleft=613ecf6a-b2a7-4b42-a0c8-809161372aec&colright=76baaeb6-2549-44f5-8e1d-cd700701e704&cikid=217&tabindex=2&coname=anika%20therapeutics%20inc&fnid=9608&ipo=0 ' >The Company believes its expertise and proprietary know-how in the development and manufacture of ultra-pure, high molecular weight HA products are difficult to replicate and provide it with a competitive advantage.http://yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com/displayfilinginfo.aspx?FilingID=8903875-56504-101153&type=sect&dcn=0001157523-12-005906 Averaging $10 million every quarter, they also have variants of the product so they must use the same technological "competitive advantage" to dominate these markets, apparently they have a dermal range but that isn't as useful as different kinds of medicine. I estimate their advantage accounts for around $13 million per quarter.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=ANIK+Key+Statistics Revenue (ttm): 67.20M
Net Income Avl to Common (ttm): 10.18M
10.18/67.2= around 15% of their revenue is kept as income after expenses, tax, interest, etc..
So a rough estimate of their lowest after-tax annual income is $7.9 million, this is a worst case scenario, it is far more likely to be higher. Last year when their share price hovered around 14.5 they were making similar amounts of money before their debaucle with the delayed orthovisc orders and later FDA rejection.
http://yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com/displayfilinginfo.aspx?FilingID=8755528-10359-14346&type=sect&dcn=0001157523-12-004339 Three Months Ended June 30
Net income $3,736,868
Comprehensive income $2,136,664
I guess that confirms they were undervalued somewhat and the stock market will timidly come back to Anika.
Their report is in with record quarterly earnings and we will see how the stock market reacts now.
http://www.nasdaq.com/article/anika-therapeutics-reports-fourth-quarter-and-full-year-2012-financial-results-20130227-01483#.US8iPTveIus Anonymous
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>>58 What's wrong, Sambo?
Can't quote in the textboard style?Back to /pol/, please! idpurpose !eoPD6MpjJM
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>>57 >>58 I like your math based approach. That can be a great complimentary tool, or even be a tool in of itself to use in the marketplace. However remember that markets are over saturated with quants, and human emotions are more powerful than an mathematical model that cannot quantify human emotions.
As newton was quoted as saying when asked about the price rise in the South Seas trading company.
"I can calculate the movements of the stars and heavens, but I cannot calculate human madness".. or something to that affect more or less, that's how I remember it.
I am also very bullish on graphene technology, and I would be interested in any stocks you can recommend to leverage the sector.
One stock I am very bullish on for the long term in graphene is CVV. However I am not going to issue any buy recommendations on the stock because I have not completed my research into it fully, even though I have been studying it for months. I also have many worries about short term price action in the stock. However the VERY long term fundamentals look solid if they continue to execute the next two quarters.
yes i completely agree the fundamental products and services the company is involved in are key to driving the price, and you must inspect all aspects of the operation / sector demand going forward, as well as competitor threats.
And yes many investors are very very lazy. I would go as far as saying anyone who invests into a stock without reading at least the last 4 quarterly reports and listening too the last two conference calls is a complete fool. And yet, the vast majority of investors do not even execute this MINIMAL effort.
I pride myself in becoming an expert in a select group of stocks and companies, and beating analysts forecasts. Part of the reason i can beat analysts is because i narrow my focus. And do not over diversify. Over diversifying draws your returns to a mean much like rolling a dice. Eventually you hit the mean of 3.5 and lower your potential return. It's much more profitable to focus on less rolls each with a higher probability of success.
Also I follow the mantra of Paul tudor Jones, you can read his basic philosophy on wikipedia.
Regarding why doctors profit off ORTHOVISC, it's about the multiple injections. They make most of their margins off the visits, more visits more injections = more revenue for them. Their are also practical reasons why multiple injections is in some regards superior to singular injection by spacing out the administration of the treatment. Just like administering any drug, done slower there is less patient risk, the benefits last over a longer period of time, and it affords doctors more time to inspect and judge the efficacy of the treatment and the progress, as well as patient reaction to it. However singular injection is clearly preferred by many patients for practical reasons, and as such each market will maintain it's niche, that is why there is a lot of opportunity for singular injection and multiple injection market to exist side by side.
I also think ANIK is a potential acquisition target for johnson and johnson. I have reason to believe johnson and joohnson wants to buy them ,and the minimum price they could pay is about 20 dollars a share. So there is a very bullish case to hold this stock long term, but i myself will probably slowly exit my position on the way up to limit risk. I already grew my portfolio by 20% today since I had ALOT of this stock on margin, I am almost at millionaire status, starting with 30k last year, of course I am going to get hit with enormous taxes that I am delaying paying so far this year and next, to use that capital as long s possible.
Regarding CNAM, the stock is one that is in the exact opposite of a bubble as you describe. It is so undervalued it is actually ridiculous. I expect to make at least a million dollars off of CNAM.
There are signs with CNAM right now that interest is building and consolidation is accelerating right now. I cannot predict the madness of men, and as such the stock may drop some from this point, however the odds of that are decreasing. It may fall down to .33 over the next week or two, however you must wonder how much longer it is worth it to buy into the position now for that 1-3 dollar stock price we are going to realize in late 2013. I always try to execute the lowest buy in price on the largest fundamental disconnects.
Anyway never invest money you cannot afford to loose. And do your dd.
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>>60 I am impressed. Anika hit 13, the upper end of your predicted range. You not only found an undervalued company, you also correctly predicted that the earnings report would trigger the market correction allowing you to use your capital elsewhere in the meantime, 23% gains in 2 days is far more valuable than 23% gains in a month, when annualized it comes to 2.6 million trillion % returns which is far greater than my target of 10%, if I could achieve even the tiniest fraction of that success I would gain
muh million in no time. And you also took the time to share your thoughts with random people over the internet. I feel guilty for considering the possibility that someone had concocted an elaborate plot to troll me into thinking I had come across an expert investment banker and convince me to put all my money on facebook or something. You are the real deal and I thank you for allowing me to capture a glimpse of my goal.
The "sequester deadline" is here apparently,
http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/01/17136205-sequester-deadline-day-is-here-but-the-effects-wont-be-instantaneous?lite the budget may end up being cut by $42 billion, Obama may succeed in reducing or stopping the cuts, I don't see this directly affecting medicare or our precious orthovisc, the economic ripples might disrupt things a little.
' >I like your math based approach.http://ycharts.com/companies/ANIK/book_value_of_equity Sambo Charles !TzcAECrLis
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' >I like your math based approach.
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that's not right ' >I like your math based approach.
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>>65 Do not feel bad for being suspicious. Actually that is what imo is a key element of my success. I am suspicious of everything I see and hear and look for confirming evidence. Someone who takes others words at face value can easily get into trouble.
Also being suspicious will aid you in your search for good companies, when you are looking for a stock to buy, most average investors look for excuses to buy the company. They try to confirm their beliefs or feelings on a pick or stock.
I do the opposite and look for excuses not to buy the company and as soon as I find one sufficient I walk away and start looking at the next company.
There will never be a shortage of other options to invest in if you find a reason not to buy a particular company, even if you are relatively certain that it will rise, and you miss it because of your concerns, it is nothing at all to be concerned with missing that opportunity. Even though you missed that opportunity it is masking the fact that you also missed that risk, focus as much on the profits you miss as the risks you miss.
By searching until you find a pick, with no rational reason not to buy, you limit your downside risk to the greatest degree and play the best defense, while also being in an offensive position.
IF you predict the market will react in a certain way with a stock and it does not do as you expect. That is a red flag that you are wrong about something, and it is time to exit. Set goals for yourself and if the companies performance is not matching your time stops.. then you gotta get out before Mr. Market really whacks you.
It's easier to gain informational advantages on comapnies the smaller they are.
I think my predictive powers are pretty good, but even I know I will never be able to outguess the market on large caps like AAPL. Not competing against thousands of analysis and quants all making their own predictions and sloshing their money around. I might be able to identify a fair long term value for the company though, if I were prepared to sit long term and wait for a payday. But i am not.
I might also add that i am starting to sell my ANIK now. I am very good at predicting the start of runs, and stock bottoms. However I never really know how far human madness will carry a stock price under positive momentum, so I almost never see the top stock price, I usually get out as the fundamental disconnect i first identified erodes under price appreciation.
I am taking a lot of the money out of ANIK and I bought NOG. NOG is another stock that has reached technical AND fundamental bottom, and that combined with historical data analysis I have conducted, and an overview of their value and management's increasing execution effectiveness, leads me to conclude NOG will rally in the range of 16-18 over the next few weeks. The primary downside risk I see to NOG is the price of oil and natural gas in the US market. Even though I expect NOG to outperform oil and gas by a heavy margin going forward. I will be monitoring these prices carefully and have some oil and natural gas price stops if oil breaks 89.75 dollars a barrel to the downside, I will exit NOG, if not.. I will hold it to my price range with a max time limit of one-two months based on relative performance.
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>>70 >>75 ' >most average investors look for excuses to buy the company. They try to confirm their beliefs or feelings on a pick or stock.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias ' >I do the opposite and look for excuses not to buy the companyhttp://www.socialresearchmethods.net/kb/dedind.php http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8xxtygm_xM http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/ded_ind.html Deductive reasoning is when you apply a theory, inductive reasoning is when you draw a hypothesis from the facts, though I'm sure a philosophy major would prefer to describe it as "going from the particular to the general" or whatever. We use inductive reasoning in our everyday lives and we are usually right because we have plenty of experience and opportunities to test assumptions like how long it takes to toast bread or how often to vacuum, I suspect that many instinctively resort to inductive reasoning on the stock market. Trying to do the same in a field as unfathomably complex and difficult to observe as the economy will lead to inaccurate conclusions unless you have an opportunity to test your hypothesis, unlike other sciences where you can perform as many experiments in the laboratory as you want, we can only analyze historical data or make predictions and watch how they play out. This means that accurate conclusions on the stock market will be largely based on deductions based on tried and tested theories rather than attempts to draw new hypothesis' from new situations.
That does not mean inductive reasoning is always inaccurate, just that we should first use our more accurate tried and tested theories before performing well researched inductive reasoning, for instance confirming if Orthovisc will continue to gain sales. When you "look for excuses not to buy the company" I think this is what you are doing, you use deduction to narrow down the list of possibilities like Sherlock Holmes, though likewise deductive reasoning isn't always accurate, as you say if the market starts acting unpredictably that means your theories were not sufficient.
http://www.northernoil.com/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakken_formation http://oilshalegas.com/bakkenshale.html ' As of March 31, 2012, Northern Oil controlled approximately 173,000 net acres in the Williston Basin Bakken and Three Forks playsI have heard of North Dakota's oil boom.
http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=NOG http://ycharts.com/companies/NOG/book_value_of_equity Asset value was 586 million in december 31st according to ycharts and 586.4 million according to yahoo finance if I take Price/Book divide by share price and multiply by market capitalization. I'm sure I'm missing something in yahoo finance here.. Market capitalization plus debt comes to 1322 million, over double the asset value, not sure if this is normal for the oil industry.
What got investors excited in September 2010? I have been reading various SEC filings, they had acquired land and were completing wells months before the share price spike, doesn't seem significant. Could have been just the usual bizarre investor behavior.
http://ycharts.com/companies/NOG/net_income_ttm According to this their income rose during 2011 and since September 2011 their net income has remained over 40 million yet stock hasn't risen that much. Could it be because investors feel it is over-saturated?
Obviously gas prices are always on the minds of investors, I hear people talking about gas prices all the time. On one hand panic selling might result in a few undervalued companies once the dust has settled, on the other it might stunt developments like this.
As I was skimming through SEC filings I could see the importance of avoiding confirmation bias when conducting inductive reasoning, I thought to myself the spike in share prices was likely because they had started drilling and this made the news or something, as I was reading through I discovered they had built 40 wells in the quarter ending June 2010 and for a moment assumed I had found the answer yet that theory of mine was conjured up on the spot, it was not a tried and tested theory. I should be reading at least 4 quarterly reports and watching conference calls, absorbing as many facts as possible, before jumping to any conclusions.
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>>79 Excellent points about reasoning, I never really thought about it in that manner.
"Well" we dumped our nog at 13.90 when oil broke 89.75 just like I said i would.. turned out to be the right move. We also completely exited ANIK.
I am very afraid of the markets right now. We are holding onto our CNAM our primary long term holding. And we are going to cash. We are shorting the euro. As well as several other large cap companies.
I am expecting the markets to pull back somewhat over the next few weeks, and I'm afraid to have any positions here besides some careful shorts and shorting the euro, and of course our cnam, which is so undervalued, it doesn't even matter what the market does really, cnam will probably trade down a bit, but not enough to make me exit since the liquidity is rather low.
Yes NOG has a lot going for it, the reason it was high was primarily profit expectations, but it has consistently missed it's earnings estimates, imo due to management lack of experience. I see signs that management is making some very smart moves lately, and they beat last estimate, so signs are the company is turning around.
The value of their oil reserves is enormous. One key market event that might add a lot of long term value to NOG, is the completion of the approval of the Keystone pipeline that runs right around their territory.
If the keystone pipeline gets through it will unblock oil from the US heartland and allow Canada to export more oil, and raise oil prices in the united states.
If keystone XL gets approved than this stock would probably be a long term hold, again the key thing here is oil prices, and i'm not willing to own it while the economy is pulling back and oil prices might be headed to 85-80 bbl.
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>>81 I'm guessing Obama's go ahead to the $85 billion cuts and the fallout from China's attempt to cool its potentially bubbling real estate market are responsible. Does this mean China Armco Metals will take longer to pick up? The moves by China may actually be beneficial in the long term since in theory, if they cool real estate for long enough, natural demand for real estate will catch up to supply thereby deflating the real estate bubble gradually.
The rest of the week should be interesting, I should probably start looking at a wider range of stock and try to analyze them as well.
Why are you shorting the euro?
' If the keystone pipeline gets through it will unblock oil from the US heartland and allow Canada to export more oil, and raise oil prices in the united states.Wouldn't increasing supply decrease price?
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China artificially boosted stock with spending. Oil rebounded.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/03/05/uk-markets-global-idUKBRE87514J20130305 http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_world_business/view/1258104/1/.html Not a huge change, seems to be lingering just above 90.
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=CLJ13.NYM+Interactive#symbol=clj13.nym;range=5d;compare=;indicator=volume;charttype=area;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=off;source=undefined ;
China seems to want to cool real estate specifically and encourage investment in industry and services, it can afford this due to its relatively low government debt, though I believe it would have been better if it didn't arbitrarily interfere in the economy to begin with as then China wouldn't have these problems to begin with.
This is a factor in favor of CNAM and NOG, CNAM isn't in any trouble, NOG I haven't completely researched. Panic selling can stunt investments or it might result in undervaluation and result in more opportunities.
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NOG is having their earnings announcement. May have been a smart move given the information to hold earlier given the information available, though I don't think they are in any big trouble.
Earlier I was looking at another gas company, Igas, that had surged 50% from Dec 15 to Dec 31 on speculation that it would get a fracking go ahead. You have to be pretty observant to catch these events I guess, just as important as being able to confirm there is a good chance of them occurring without too much risk.
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=IGAS.L+Interactive#symbol=igas.l;range=3m;compare=;indicator=volume;charttype=area;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=off;source=undefined ;
Oil, technology and BRIC nations seem to be growth hotspots worth of attention.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_f5zcyt1r8 He doesn't seem very calm.
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I noticed some flaws in yahoo finance.
http://biz.yahoo.com/p/s_conameu.html Here some sectors have unrealistic 1 day price changes due to gaps in yahoo's data for a few small companies.
Also this
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=BVIC.L+Key+Statistics Price/Book (mrq): 2,752.94
2,752.94 is also a ridiculous figure.
and this
http://biz.yahoo.com/p/313mktd.html It says Ricoh, Ltd. has a market cap of 72 trillion which is obviously wrong.
Clearly multiple sources for the same information are essential when researching a potential buy. I am not phased, it is better to make these mistakes now rather than later.
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There are other convenient sources of information.
http://markets.ft.com/research/Markets/Sectors-And-Industries/Industrials/Building-Materials-and-Fixtures http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industry_Classification_Benchmark http://www.nyse.com/about/listed/nya_characteristics.shtml The "industry breakdown" sections provides some information I am looking for.
http://www.google.com/finance Google lists businesses in each sector, though doesn't provide the features yahoo attempted to.
8000 Financials, banks compose 50% of the financial sector, insurance 20% and real estate 13%.
20.88% = 3.5 trillion 0001 Oil & Gas, lots of familiar names, exxon, shell, chevron, bp, petrobras, also petrochina.
16.25% of total market cap = 2.7 trillion energy
2000 Industrials, industrial machinery (including vehicles and electronics) are the largest as you would expect, along with aerospace, transportation, construction, business finance/administration and defence they comprise 70% of the sector.
12.16% = 2 trillion capital goods
transportation
3000 Consumer Goods, food and drink comprise 40% of this sector, tobacco, autos, clothing and footwear are also significant.
11.63% = 1.9 trillion Cons. Cyclical
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4000 Health Care, 71% pharmaceuticals, some providers and other supplies.
10.05% = 1.7 trillion 1000 Basic Materials, chemicals, metals and gold are the major areas, comprising 67% of this sector's market cap. Coal and timber don't seem to be as important as I thought they would be.
7.37% = 1.2 trillion 9000 Technology, Computer services and software are almost 50% of this sector, the internet a mere 1%, the rest is hardware and electronics.
4.85% = 0.8 trillion 5000 Consumer Services, over 60% retail and restaurants, media is especially significant also and to a lesser extent catering and leisure.
7.74% = 1.3 trillion 6000 Telecommunications, 70% fixed line, 30% mobile.
4.47% = 0.7 trillion 7000 Utilities, 66% electricity not including "multiutilities", gas and water are not as significant.
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>>100 Thanks for the help out. Of the great investors like Buffet, Soros and Paul Tudor Jones I seem to most resemble Jesse Livermore, some of my ideas resemble that of George Soros, I believe that stocks gravitate towards an "ideal" which resembles Soros' application of reflexivity in economics whereby stocks move towards their equilibrium, fluctuating erratically within a margin of error, until market conditions change, the goal of an investor is to understand the limitations of factors that alter this equilibrium and to search for them and apply them in order to make predictions with a certain degree of accuracy, then to find stocks that are highly undervalued or overvalued and help "move" them.
The problem is I never originally intended to go into finance, Livermore was in a similar situation when he arrived at Boston at the age of 14 with no formal education.
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http://s24.postimage.org/9sgyhulk5/le_hw_thread.png wish I could have updated you on the happenings, anyway... so I bought back into NOG when oil crossed back over 91, bought options and made a very healthy sum, economy may run yet on good economic reports form asia and us, I think oil will maintain it's 90 support now, so NOG is a great stock in that scenario, although soon we will start taking take profits at 16, probably hold onto some options.
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Holding onto our euro shorts as insurance for market pullback.
CNAM you may have noticed crashed as I was predicting, we were waiting for this opportunity and bought another 1% of the company on the pullback under .32, it was an amazing opportunity.
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>>82 >Wouldn't increasing supply decrease price? yes it would, but the keystone will not increase supply, pipelines do not make oil they make transporting it easier.
It will decrease north america domestic supply it, by allowing Canada an easy route to an export market. The oil from canada has to go somewhere right? It goes to the closest place possible.. the US. But we already have too much oil.
Oil overseas is around 110$ in the US it's 90 due to glut of over supply. Price can't gap much lower though even with oversupply because of the export price differential, if the gap between us oil prices and international oil pries becomes too high, than oil will start to sell off overseas regardless of the increased transportation costs.
>Why are you shorting the euro? Insurance, if global markets start to collapse, the euro will get hit the hardest due to the already weak state of europe, fear of government debt burden collapse necessitating vast printing of money. Money will fly to US dollars for safety. If there was a global market crash I forecast euro to go to parity with the dollar. It think even with good economic situation it should come back too 1.2 at least. Also europe is stuck in recession while rest of world shows strong gdp growth, the rest of the world is easing, so if europe is going to get the hint, europe will start easing too, if they want their economy to grow, this policy shift will kill the euro price.
>I'm guessing Obama's go ahead to the $85 billion cuts and the fallout from China's attempt to cool its potentially bubbling real estate market are responsible. yeah that is part of the story, but if the core economy keeps putting up solid numbers these policy decisions will not have a material impact. But it doses go onto my radar screen, I look for any sign of domestic economy weakness constantly.
>Does this mean China Armco Metals will take longer to pick up? China armco has already suffered form 2012 enormously, going forward this might temper the forecast somewhat. Forecast form leading chinese steel producers are still for growth in 2013, 2012 was so bad for steel, it cannot possibly get any worse, and inventories are much lower now, even a reduction in demand would not reduce output below 2012 levels.
However as part of attempting to reduce steel demand and housing demand, PRC is also concurrently trying to reduce pollution. As part of that china is boosting recycling initiatives, and the price of iron ore is still high enough to boost scrap demand significantly intrinsically even without govt intervention. China Armco was selected by the PRC as a demonstration base for energy efficient example for the rest of the industry running their energy efficient plant and operating some of their yard equipment on electricity and not diesel like others.
Quarterly report on the 28th will blow the stock up regardless of market conditions, the profit will catch the attention of everyone who follows the stock, it shoudln't be a surprise honestly, but I have learned that people usually do not pay attention to the numbers until they are shoved into their faces on official documents. I already know what the quarterly report will say. I Alfred know the sales numbers the gross and net profit to within ~15% of the actual, the numbers will surprise everyone even though all the info is available for them to find. that will be the real driver of stock price, as sad as it is, with a stock like this in penny land, people have very very short time horizons, they rarely invest long term, it's a habit form the penny market, few mutual funds who are the true long term market players venture there. So in reality it almost hardly matters what their yearly forecast is, people want profits and improvement now not later, and they will get it.
>NOG is having their earnings announcement. huh? No that is not an earnings announcement, that is simply yahoo posting their data to the website late as always, their earnings were a while ago that's why I liked the stock.
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>>102 What do you think of this?
' >The Law Firm of Levi & Korsinsky, LLP Launches an Investigation into Possible Breaches of Fiduciary Duty by the Board of Directors of China Armco Metals, Inc.http://www.bloomberg.com/article/2013-03-05/akIKpY4V0NA0.html http://www.marketwatch.com/story/shareholder-alert-the-law-firm-of-levi-korsinsky-llp-launches-an-investigation-into-possible-breaches-of-fiduciary-duty-by-the-board-of-directors-of-china-armco-metals-inc-2013-03-05 I assume your visit to China proves that there isn't some massive conspiracy and involvement by the people's republic in the business means Yao probably wouldn't dare screwing around even if he wanted to. Not sure what Levi & Korsinsky's motivations are, probably just have nothing else to do and are hoping there is a case in there somewhere, or maybe someone paid them to investigate. Why would they publicly reveal their investigation instead of observing them covertly? Or have they already been doing so?
Oil is a very large sector yet it involves a single industry which means it takes less time to research and observe, though oil is saturated with investors. I can see 3 areas which could result in opportunities.
http://www.dailyforex.com/forex-technical-analysis/2013/03/Crude-Oil-Price-Mar-8-2013/18809 http://oilprice.com/commodity-price-charts?1=&page=chart&sym=CLJ13&name=Crude%20Oil%20WTI&domain=advancedmedia&sg=true&display_ice=1&studies=Volume;&cancelstudy=&type=CANDLE Expansion into unconventional oil, fracking, offshore rigs and expansion into obscure areas like Siberia and Alaska, possibly Antarctica and the Arctic in the distant future.
Expansion into areas that have recently gained security. Yemen has liberalized and oil exports are increasing, the situation on the border between Sudan and South Sudan is unstable but with Malik Agar's constant reminders they should receive the help they need.
http://news.sudanvisiondaily.com/details.html?rsnpid=219258 At the moment the Sahara is insecure as indicated by the recent attack on an Algerian gas plant, international military support should see the Mali Islamists defeated in pitched battle, it is the irregular terrorists, insurgents and guerrillas that I am worried about. Libya, Chad and Nigeria form a buffer zone stretching across Africa, Libya's new prime minister Ali Zeidan is a moderate so Libya shouldn't be a weak link in the chain for long. Mauritania appears to be the linchpin for preventing the resupply of the Islamist irregulars and it seems Algeria has had the same line of thought and Mauritania is putting effort into stopping the terrorists despite being an impoverished country with problems of its own.
http://www.magharebia.com/cocoon/awi/xhtml1/en_GB/features/awi/features/2013/02/26/feature-04 http://www.peacenewspaper.net/?p=2077 If the security situation improves and investors are still prejudiced against the region due to its past that might result in some undervalued companies.
There are various bureaucratic obstructions to free trade in oil, fracking permits, the late Chavez's old policies, OPEC decisions, the Falklands and sanctions on Iran spring to mind. When these obstacles are removed it can result in large swings in the market.
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>>103 Ok, so it wouldn't affect prices upstream. Derp. Lower transportation costs means businesses midstream will prefer to buy from the WTI market instead of the Brent market, increasing demand. I view the oil pipeline as much a part of the infrastructure as the oil rigs, I ignored how the production chain is distributed among market actors, I am a human and make mistakes, that is why I am asking questions and throwing my ideas onto the internet for criticism of course.
Yes, the EU has financial problems unseen elsewhere in the developed world yet it is electing unconcerned parties, the US has less debt and these cuts prove something is being done. Quantitative easing conjures up images of Bernanke throwing money out of helicopters and bubble and bust though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTUY16CkS-k http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zCKXJKzs5s&t=3m40s If financial capital is increased but not the economy's capacity to support new growth, doesn't this just destabilize prices and reduce the competition for capital? Doesn't the government have to take on debt to support it? Doesn't it increase inflation hurting savings? The Paultards keep saying it's happening anyway.
' >that is simply yahoo posting their data to the website late as alwaysI noticed this problem and now routinely look for multiple sources for the same information.
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>>103 I meant to say any decrease in overall costs through the supply chain, from the rig to the pump, will result in lower prices overall and a pressure to increase supply. Oil has high elasticity of supply. As you say despite the slight decrease in prices overall, the increase in prices due to WTI gaining a larger market share should be far greater. The pipeline will allow WTI crude to be sold at higher prices on the world market.
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>>105 >The Law Firm of Levi & Korsinsky A few things.
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This actually makes me want to buy the stock more. Simple historical analysis shows this announcement from Levi & Korsinsky is followed by large rises in stock price almost ALL of the time. In fact I was thinking of using there announcements to screen stocks to purchase. I surely can;t prove anything, but I suspect these guys are involved in foul play in trying to suppress stock prices when people want to buy a stock.
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Look how many "investigations" they have launched.
http://www.google.com/#q=SHAREHOLDER+ALERT:+Levi+%26+Korsinsky&hl=en&safe=off&ei=VkI8UemhCJOa9QS8wIDIAg&start=10&sa=N&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&fp=1b3ca709867a17bf&biw=1347&bih=711 They launch maybe several "investigations" a day, almost every company on the NYSE has been "investigated". If there was anything to their story they would have put ore details than breach of fiduciary duty.. imo. The only time there investigation PR's ever materialize into an actual lawsuit, is when they provide more info about a specific cause.
And lastly they are concerned with protecting shareholders, so actually a lawsuit might not even be a bad thing for shareholders depending on what precisely it is.
Long story short, it's 99% chance of nothing and even if it was something, not necessarily even bad for you, if you react to this news you are probably getting fleeced. imo, it is probably related somehow to someone wanting to buy large volume of stock.. just my opinion. The people who have been trading for awhile completely ignore this tripe. there are even some stocks where these announcements have short circuited and they release the same announcement almost every other week, kind of hilarious, makes me think these "!!!SHAREHOLDER ALERTS!!!" are somehow automated.
Additionally if CNAM was running a scam they are doing it wrong, their balance sheet is empty of cash and they have been loosing money for years. LOL, I have seen a lot of chinese scams, they all report profits and lots of cash in the bank that they don't have. the only assets CNAM reports are tangible which I have seen with my own eyes. I have seen their scrap metal inventories and calculated their tonnages. I saw the trucks taking out the material on an unscheduled visit and many workers at the plant very busy. Among some other things. If the investigation was legitimate imo, it would probably be related to the recent stock offering CNAM did at .50 cents a share. Someone might be mad and thinks .50 is too cheap, that's the only plausible scenario I can come up with becasue all the risks involved in the business were clearly expressed in all their releases, and thier balance sheets and reports are very well done, especially for a Chinese company, most Chinese companies have shitty accounting practices, CNAM's is very good better than a lot of other NYSE companies, and they don't fluff their balance sheet with silly crap like intangibles and goodwill.
>If the security situation improves and investors are still prejudiced against the region due to its past that might result in some undervalued companies. I like this way of thinking, seems like something worth looking into, but remember investors have more to worry about than physical insecurity, things like corruption, ect are just as big a threat or even bigger really. Pakistan imo, looks attractive right now. Very very cheap companies, and a lot of experienced IT people, actually getting more and more skilled every year, who work for a fraction of what western IT companies charge.
>If financial capital is increased but not the economy's capacity to support new growth, doesn't this just destabilize prices and reduce the competition for capital? Doesn't the government have to take on debt to support it? Doesn't it increase inflation hurting savings? I am primarily a keynesian, and when I was younger I used to believe the paul stuff. Since then i have become wiser and see benefits to each side.
The key reason keynesian is the right way to go right now imo, is precisely becasue of debt and wages that are non competitive. Flushing the market with money will help alleviate debt stress, devalue the currency making paying off debt easier, and stimulate spending due to more inflation. The devaluation of the currency should encourage more tourism to Europe and more exports, while at the same time rasiing the costs of material goods, encouraging more efficient systems, and also the european govts can reduce taxes on many imports and VATs, they have room to accommodate this increased expense without disrupting their economy.
The key thing about keynesian imo, is trying to maximize the value added benefit of the money pumped through the economy to keep things flowing, done irresponsibly it can cause long term net value destruction. And keynesian policies should be rolled back in favor of more traditional economic policies at times of economic robustness.
I think both philosophies are valid however they each should be utilized at different terms in the economic cycle, with care to avoid sudden disruption and utilize slow transition.
Europe desperately needs a weaker currency, or even a currency break up imo. Maybe two classes of currency one for countries with low bond yields and another for countries with high bond yields.
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>>108 I guess it is a form of advertising then. Some of their other SHAREHOLDER ALERTS contain far more information. Many others are exactly the same as the SHAREHOLDER ALERT on China Armco Metals and lacking information.
google: levi korsinsky fiduciary
' >but remember investors have more to worry about than physical insecurity, things like corruptionYes, I must always factor in the consequences of taking risk, I should not only look at potential risks when researching a potential buy but throughout the entire process, such as choosing where to direct research as I am now.
I was thinking more in terms of companies like CNAM which is based in San Mateo, it had to achieve the standards needed to be listed on the NYSE and is exposed to the likes of Levi & Korsinsky but does all its business in China, US level corruption, Chinese growth. I am looking for companies that are trying to open up new oil reserves, maybe some joint efforts with western oil giants and perhaps have some backing by the government and leading figures in the country with no unusual behavior. The financial sector is an area I am looking into and at the moment I have much more confidence in the certainties of a tangible industry like oil than the speculative nature of finance.
Keynes didn't always assume apparent liquidity traps are entirely due to lack of aggregate demand or psychological causes, I can't help but think that Keynesianism is being misused, Keynes once said to Hayek that he believed there should be more government planning but it should be managed by people who share the same views as Hayek.
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http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=SNFCA+Interactive#symbol=snfca;range=1y;compare=;indicator=volume;charttype=area;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=off;source=undefined ;
Looking at the past year I noticed 3 upwards trends each beginning in May, August and November 2012, these seemed to correspond to quarterly reports showing increased mortgage revenue with little change in
Three Months Ended March 31
Mortgage fee income 25,490,584
Three Months Ended June 30
Mortgage fee income 35,087,056
Three Months Ended September 30
Mortgage fee income 43,294,916
before then mortgage fees had gradually decreased
2009
144,274,227
36 million per quarter average
2010
97,342,215
24 million per quarter average
2011
77,605,105
19 million per quarter average
and naturally the company ended up devalued despite having the potential for higher revenue.
There are a variety of reasons for this.
Security national apparently targets "niche" markets and also restructured its business recently.
http://www.securitynational.com/stock/pdf/press/04-02-2012.pdf ' >Over the last 24 months we have spent considerable effort converting what had been a wholesale mortgage origination sales force to a retail mortgage origination sales force. The cost of that conversion, both in terms of dollar outlay and management time has been significant. Whereas previously we had been as much as 90% wholesale and 10% retail we are now 71% retail and 29% wholesale in our originations. In addition, significantly, we believe our percentage of purchase related transactions is significantly higher than national averages which indicates a more stable origination platform.Apparently the mortgage market is booming at the moment.
http://www.nuwireinvestor.com/articles/us-mortgage-market-booming-60275.aspx I would need in-depth knowledge of the mortgage market to notice these trends and to constantly monitor mortgage lenders to find such a business.
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with little change in insurance or death care revenues security national's 2 other main economic activities.*
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>110
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>>112 I'm not suggesting anyone put their money on it. The initial surge in prices is over and I expect it to behave erratically and not reach its peak again any time soon, the market cap to after-tax profit ratio is about average, their comprehensive income until September 2012 trailing 9 months was 9 million, I predict their likely comprehensive income for 2012 will be between 11 and 15 million, compared to a market cap of 81 million plus 25 million debt it is an average investment, not ideal. I was just wondering what prompted the spike in prices, by investigating I have been brushing up on my understanding of fixed maturity securities, options, bonds, equity securities and jargon.
For the nine months ended September 30, 2012 and 2011, SecurityNational Mortgage originated and sold 9,578 loans ($1,737,214,000 total volume) and 5,682 loans ($959,730,000 total volume), respectively. 115 million doesn't seem much compared to the reported 1.7 billion total volume but this is on top of other sources of capital, Wells Fargo and UBS may have agreed to further increases in the meantime and it shows they can continue their successful retail mortgage strategy with less pressure to raise interest rates.
http://www.securitynational.com/press.asp Presumably their annual report should be released on the 2nd of April, I'll just monitor share prices and return to this then. I should be looking at the broader financial market instead of fixating on this.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/12/us-usa-fed-qe-idUSBRE92B06L20130312 From September the fed has been buying mortgage backed securities from banks like Wells Fargo and there is a small chance they may decide to wind it down, slight fears they might do so may depress the market slightly, then if they announce there will be no change it will rise slightly.
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Does it bother anyone that Europe is getting a excessive amount of free cash from the Federal Reserve? Especially Spain and Italy?
http://dis.4chan.org/read/games/1195751279/1-40 Anonymous
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Move to Puerto Rico. It's one of the last American colonies to provide tax-immunity.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/paulson-said-explore-puerto-rico-090000186.html Sambo Charles !TzcAECrLis
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>>114 Here is the link provided in that thread.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-09/fed-injects-record-100-billion-reserves-foreign-banks-operating-us-past-week I presume the reason money is going to foreign banks is because these banks conduct a lot of business in the US, though I suppose there is some potential for abuse.
I would like to know what his sources are which show the banks the fed buys bonds from or lends to. This provides some information but not the size of transactions with a company within a certain time period.
http://www.newyorkfed.org/markets/pridealers_current.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Hedge It might be worth scanning the headlines of this site once a day, they are politically biased but they seem to be good at collecting information.
>>115 I'd rather focus on predicting something like this
' >Paulson rose to fame in 2007 with a successful bet that subprime mortgages would tumble.then play it safe and be a good citizen after I have
muh million .
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Euro is starting to slip, good time to pile on the shorts here, oil is also rallying in the us market, NOG is not following the move much because of options expirary week. I expect NOG is held under pressure till next week under ~15 and then rally, if not before.
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Here is my technical analysis for CNAM, as you can see history repeats itself in eerie fashion on the chart, the only difference this time is instead of a hugely disappointing Q2 they will have a spectacular Q4 year end report.
My price target for CNAM to trade in the week after the earnings report is .60-.80, but I won;t even pretend like .800 is a cap becasue in penny land things can explode without adequate warning, but that would be good spot to take profits to cover your investment and hang onto the remainder.
You can see the stunning Slow Stochastic repeat, very very low odds that this pattern breaks until news. so therefore .29-.30 should be the bottom, and the stock should slowly climb its way back up to .35-.40 over the ext two weeks before earnings on March 28th
http://s23.postimage.org/gehzcxwxl/history_repeats.png idpurpose !eoPD6MpjJM
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I have found myself using this alongside yahoo finance and google finance, more so than the general random things I find on search engines.
http://investing.businessweek.com I have also been looking at various "hot stock picks" on the internet though obviously this comes with a healthy dose of skepticism. I remember doing this earlier and looking at Igas which jumped up quite a bit in December. I can quite confidently say I would have sold before the 1st of January and made 20% returns, 50% if I predicted it earlier.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=IGAS.L On the other hand I would have known that it is speculation and could collapse at any time if some rumor surfaced, there were other investments that did not go so well. Maybe it is a good idea just to look at these hyped picks and research them yourself.
I can clearly see the problem with diversifying too much. One method of researching a market is to look for possible reasons for growth in a sector and find the companies affected by it, so obviously keeping track of things is important. I have been looking at various indicators and sectors and randomly picking companies to study, though like Security National Financial Corp there are reasons to believe stock might increase but there is always a reason not to buy and like you say this is reason enough to put it back on the shelf. Recent high gains are a gamble, it is difficult to tell when a mini-bubble will burst, potential sector wide increases narrow down searches but still growth is usually quite slow on a company per company basis. Taking the initiative to find information and make original inferences is my main concern so I need to develop my ability to find and identify useful information. The oil sector is more favorable to me even if some indicators suggest it has less potential, due to the ease of collecting information and perhaps because the financial sector as a whole is more volatile, on the other hand volatility might be a good thing, Livermore selling short before stock market crashes and Paulson betting against subprime mortgages springs to mind. Once I hone in on a sector most of these information processing problems shouldn't be a problem, there are only a few 100 businesses in a subsector per country and that would be no problem for me to get to grips with. In theory, I could handle maybe 10 a day and cover the entire NYSE, but I think I will just test my abilities first and gain a better impression of how to use my limited mental capacity.
http://investing.businessweek.com/research/sectorandindustry/sectors/sectordetail.asp?code=40®ion=US Studying one sector of the economy that is growing then a year later when growth slows in that sector moving on and starting on a new sector seems to be a good idea.
SEC filings
conference calls
dilution
intangibles and goodwill
growth and earnings
institution interest
capitalization
industry growth
margins, and revenues
administrative cost growth
peg and p/e
revenue to market capitalization
These are useful indicators and I will school myself in them until they are like bread and butter to me and I can confirm and monitor a reasonable large number of companies. However I still need ways to narrow the list down.
tl;dr could do with some search protips.
>>117 The market is quite bullish at the moment, every sector is mostly green. What are the chances of it lasting till the 28th?
>>118 It is like a drained pond that cannot drain any further, if you are right then not only is it undervalued but there is little potential for it to lose further value reducing risk and making it more desirable. If your predictions are wrong then the worst that will happen is you have done the equivalent of keep your money in a bank account for a few months.
>>119 I already have a token buy in NOG and if the price almost doubles it will be like winning a bet for me, like Anika which incidentally has been hovering around 14, which I believed was the maximum. Whole numbers like 12, 13, 14 and 15 are self-fulfilling prophecies, looking back at stock history the average stock price was between 13 or 14, rarely hitting 15, so 14 was probably worth waiting for.
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>>119 Where did you get the information on NOG's potential buy out? There are many oil giants that could easily swallow a business like NOG so there was always that potential I suppose.
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>>122 As it happens, there is apparently some kind of "cure" for AIDS.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn23276-more-hiv-cured-first-a-baby-now-14-adults.html?cmpid=RSS|NSNS|2012-GLOBAL|online-news I have to go now, perhaps in the meantime you could do the research, find out which companies have the appropriate patents, how long until the drugs go out on the market and so forth, then report back here and we can share our finds.
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>>121 do a background search on their new addition to the board of directors and find his buddy who is in charge of allocating buyouts for a certain major us oil company, then find out where they were on march 13-14th idpurpose !eoPD6MpjJM
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Haent had time to read all the posts too busy right now but
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>>124 >>125 Well Brandon Elliott used to work for Consol, I also found some personal information, his facebook, his middle name is "Riggan" and he made a campaign contribution of $1000 to Romney.
I noticed the comment on
finance.yahoo.com about a meeting in Boston
http://www.theflyonthewall.com/permalinks/entry.php/NOGid1721567/NOG-Northern-Oil-and-Gas-provides-Q-production-and-operations-update?symbol=NOG which I am skeptical of.
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http://reason.com/archives/2013/03/13/frack-to-the-future Yoko Ono and Lady Gaga dislike fracking but is it really such a big deal? I don't think it is.
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http://investor.ea.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=749234 Electronic Arts CEO Riccitiello has resigned.
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=EA+Interactive#symbol=ea;range=1y;compare=;indicator=volume;charttype=area;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=off;source=undefined ;
At a glance I would say EA is overvalued.
share price has almost doubled since August 2012.
no dividends
book value is a little over a third of market cap
Market cap + debt = 6.15b
Net Income Avl to Common = 175m
income/invested-capital ≈ 2.8%
Worth observing.
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>>127 easy to for you to say
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http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2bd7eb02-9207-11e2-851f-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2OANiPyj3 http://www.ft.com/indepth/euro-in-crisis Idpurpose's suggestion to short the euro seems to be a good idea.
Still studying industrials and consumer goods, have been looking at a number of businesses in an ad-hoc manner and I am confident about my ability to acquire necessary standards of proof and make a few predictions. I ought to step up my game a little and keep track of things properly and find more sources of information.
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>>129 From what I have seen fracking only affects a small area in the short term. It is the equivalent of mining, if someone were undermining house that would be a problem, if they mine out in the boondocks it doesn't matter. If I am wrong please show me facts to the contrary.
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>>132 Obviously you aren't the one living there.
Trade Smart University
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>>133 I'm not sure what you're talking about specifically, you should provide some facts. Obviously if a well is built where people live then it is a problem, if the well is out in the boondocks where no one lives then it is not a problem.
>>134 ' >power trader prohttp://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/tradesmart-technologies-c60257.html I do not believe this is a reliable source.
http://www.tradesmartu.com/news/category/market-update/ At face value it is mostly useless, it does however provide insights into what some investors might be thinking.
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>>135 That's a shit attitude, calling someone's home "boondocks". Just say you don't give a shit, and move on.
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>>136 ' >if the well is out in the boondocks where no one livesI directly stated what I meant by boondocks was where no one lives.
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Their new jets are not even ready!
ALF
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>>137 What about the wildlife?
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>>137 lol, no one who lives where no one lives can complain, no one ever said that because that makes no sense
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>>139 Yet the government keeps paying for them! They also have a variety of other products of course.
>>140 The EPA regulates what chemicals can be used and groundwater is separated from the well
>>141 Anyone can complain because this is a democracy. How does this conversation aid me in obtaining
muh million ? You seem to want to make me out to be some kind of evil capitalist or soemthing.
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>>142 No, just pointing out a poor attitude and easy dismissiveness of people who have had problems.
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>>143 You just like pointing at people.
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>>144 I'll point at you all I want,
loser .
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Fuck with companies the US government has personally on the individual invested in. even there own businesses.
Trading 101
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At the moment the main innovators in graphene seem to be universities and big businesses with large R&D departments.
here is lockheed martin again
http://www.businessinsider.com/lockheed-martin-desalination-graphene-filters-2013-3 solar power
supercapacitor
superconductors
graphene integrated circuits with nanoribbon transistors
semi-permeable membranes, for instance to separate ethanol or salt from water
various uses for it's high thermal conductivity and high tensile strength
New innovations are appearing all the time, graphene aerogel is strong enough to support gas at low density, possibly a vacuum in the future.
http://www.gizmag.com/graphene-aerogel-worlds-lightest/26784/ Researchers are refining this technology and at some point new products will become economical and start to crawl out of the primordial ooze, unless graphene turns out to be as dangerous as asbestos or something.
>>146 I oppose animal abuse, I believe you are lying but if you are not I suggest you discontinue your actions and consult a psychologist.
Though it is worth mentioning that many agricultural workers extract semen on a daily basis for legitimate reasons. Semen from prize animals can sell for $1000s, semen is also a popular novelty beverage among women.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/capital-life/5176745/Women-flock-to-take-horse-semen-shots >>147 I think you made a typo, a common and unimportant mistake that I occasionally make on a casual forum such as this.
Were you suggesting that I look for companies that have received contracts from the government and when researching the company I should look into personal relationships between board members and government officials?
>>148 You put the name of the company as your name so you must be the person who posted this earlier.
>>134 They have a dedicated site promoting this guide yet do not seem to be selling anything, only interested in my e-mail. The guide does not name an author and seems to have lots of empty platitudes like "don't be irrational", basic information and stories about traders which could quite possibly be complete works of fiction.
I won't be reading this, I will just skim through the contents to search for any concepts I may have missed then search for more reliable sources of information. Otherwise my conclusion is the same.
At face value it is mostly useless, it does however provide insights into what some investors might be thinking.
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>>147 stock·ade
/stäˈkād/
Noun
A barrier or enclosure formed from upright wooden posts or stakes, esp. as a defense against attack or as a means of confining animals.
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Avid Investor Group :
http://www.avidinvestorgroup.com What about this?
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Last day to get into CNAM before earnings report on Friday... you don't want to miss it, going to be huge..
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awww yeah.. GREAT EARNINGS for CNAM
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>>154 >>156 Annual reports could easily contain statistics for the most recent quarter shouldn't they? I feel as though I am missing something here.
Net income for 9 months ended September 30, 2012
-3230941
Net income for 3 months ended September 30, 2012
134655
Net loss in 2012
2609336
-2609336 - -3230941 = 621605
Comprehensive loss for 9 months ended September 30, 2012
3053268
comprehensive loss in 2012
$2345007
3053268 - 2345007 = 708261
Seems legit.
Annualized that comes to around 2.4 million profit, which means market cap would have to be $50 million to gain moderate 5% growth rates, 50% higher than the current market cap of 33m. 0.6 is 50% higher than 0.4 but I am unsure of investor behavior, 0.5 is a low risk estimate. Probably worth mentioning I am drunk at the moment.
I plan to start an account on reddit as my social media platform to formalize this source a bit more. 4chan has provided some unique information that I could not have found elsewhere, unfortunately 4chan does not have a good reputation among the stiffs, suits and squares I may need to develop a relationship with to gather information. I'll deal with that later because I'm drunk and it is getting late.
' >yolo swag$$..we're getting paid bru, getting that paper, we'll have stacks broh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa9Lc0V_-YM etc
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http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=CNAM+Interactive#symbol=cnam;range=5d;compare=;indicator=volume;charttype=area;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=off;source=undefined ;
I predict all the paranoid traders were synchronized and sold when it went above 0.4 and stopped rising for 20 minutes, now they will act erratically with a general upward pressure back to 0.4, a potential to reach 0.5 in the short term term and some potential to attract the interest of other investors due to its rise and surge.
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Well it did return to 0.4 but continued to behave erratically for the rest of the day.
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https://mtgox.com/ bitcoin as quadrupled in a month, I think its capped out and not worth investing in
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165 Samooborona Charles !TzcAECrLis Fri 05 Apr 2013 15:37:00 No. 438527 Report Quoted By:
Hydrogen extraction from xylose (abundant plant sugar) breakthrough.
From the article.
http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/articles/2013/04/040413-cals-hydrogen.html?utm_campaign=Argyle%2BSocial-2013-04&utm_content=shaybar&utm_medium=Argyle%2BSocial&utm_source=twitter&utm_term=2013-04-04-08-30-00 ' >The team liberates the high-purity hydrogen under mild reaction conditions at 122 degree Fahrenheit and normal atmospheric pressure. The biocatalysts used to release the hydrogen are a group of enzymes artificially isolated from different microorganisms that thrive at extreme temperatures, some of which could grow at around the boiling point of water.' >“The potential for profit and environmental benefits are why so many automobile, oil, and energy companies are working on hydrogen fuel cell vehicles as the transportation of the future,” Zhang said. “Many people believe we will enter the hydrogen economy soon, with a market capacity of at least $1 trillion in the United States alone.”Oh and I've changed my name because "Sambo" is also an obscure racial epithet and I do not waste my time on such things when there is a simple solution. I am pragmatic.
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167 Samooborona Charles !TzcAECrLis Sun 07 Apr 2013 02:00:00 No. 438590 Report Quoted By:
>>166 thou jesteth. You say that because facebook was made famous by the IPO debacle last year. I don't listen to hype though so I will look at facebook objectively.
At a glance facebook stock has stabilized at around 28, above its low of around 20 from August 2012 to November 2012, suggesting the IPO fiasco resulted in it being undervalued and it has since recovered.
Net income is 32 million. After reading their recent annual report and taking into account the 1.5 billion increase in R&D and marketing spending and I estimate this is the equivalent of around 1.5 billion invested in intangible assets making facebook an average performer.
Facebook is trying to diversify, releasing a smartphone, software and buying out successful startups. Facebook is already saturated with capital and prices are no longer volatile, so its value as an investment largely depends on the success of the innovations resulting from its massive spending. 32 million is suspiciously small, you could speculate that they limited spending to the most profitable investments using positive net income as a benchmark, despite having more potential investments. R&D spending increased by a billion from 388 million in 2011 to 1.399 billion in 2012 suggesting there may be administrative difficulties in managing this much research. Growth in facebook users and ad revenue is obviously winding down.
I would wait for more developments, research their upcoming products and try to take advantage of anticipated rises before selling shortly afterwards. I will not be investing in facebook, I believe my attention would be more productive elsewhere.
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168 Samooborona Charles !c1JJFTr.Ic Sun 07 Apr 2013 02:02:00 No. 438591 Report Quoted By:
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169 Samooborona Charles !TzcAECrLis Sun 07 Apr 2013 12:49:00 No. 438596 Report Quoted By:
>>168 If you say so
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171 Samooborona Charles!TzcAECrLis Sun 07 Apr 2013 20:20:00 No. 438598 Report Quoted By:
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173 Samooborona Charles!TzcAECrLis Sun 07 Apr 2013 22:19:00 No. 438602 Report Quoted By:
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174 Samooborona Charles!TzcAECrLis Sun 07 Apr 2013 22:20:00 No. 438603 Report Quoted By:
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>>174 [i[bbcoad[[/i] [strong]``master''[/strong] Samooborona Charles!nIgGeR
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Another material in the same "family" as graphene.
http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/faculty/ifcheng/graphene%20page.htm Its imperfections give it superior properties.
SBO stands for Samooborona Bez Oruzhiya
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sambo_(martial_art) >>151 -153>>177 >>179 As always I am highly skeptical of sources of information like this, instead of taking it literally I view it more as evidence to be judged.
Burton Malkiel and Mirriam MacWilliams have excellent credentials, but then are they telling us the whole story? It is easy to find a short cut then claim you buckled down and took the hard route. Then there is the fact that 1000s of other investors have seen and heard the same thing.
Burton Malkiel and Mirriam MacWilliams are worth the time since the evidence is high quality enough. Not sure about the others.
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Is KFC still OK
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Was in a /pol/ bitcoin crash aftermath thread. OP posted this as an example of the merits of the other potential investments out there.
http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=CHTP#symbol=CHTP;range=1y "i had very big gains (=70%) with micron and amd last year"
>>181 What is a pvp? Is this the UFC you are referring to?
http://uk.reuters.com/business/quotes/chart?symbol=UFCS.P >>182 Drop in quarterly earnings which you might want to look into but otherwise they look like an average performer, they have also come out recently with boneless wings which is good.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=YUM+Key+Statistics SBO Charles !TzcAECrLis
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I have been doing far more than what I mention in this thread, I might share a few predictions later.
pol says the dollar is about to collapse.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/52005 Again I will take this as evidence to be judged rather than literally.
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CNAM has received a small amount of attention.
http://www.waste-management-world.com/news/2013/04/17/china-armco-metals-keeps-rising-up-5-4-in-2-days.html >>186 Dogbert is meant to be cynical satire but he in fact turns out to be quite right about many things and I for one seek to emulate him.
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So during my travels throughout the netweb I am getting the impression most other investors are interested in indexes and funds like TZA, FAZ, UPRO, UVXY, ETF and SPXA as well as a plethora of trend analyzing tools like bollinger bands. It is all very alien to what I currently consider to be sound investing.
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This might not be too related to this thread,HARDCORE DAY TRADING
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>>189 If you're looking for technical details then I've got nothing.
In principle I approve, everyone needs a cache to fall back on in case of unexpected events in their life.
Should everyone be prepared to take on the optimal level of risk needed to gain the highest returns on their investment? Due to the law of diminishing returns $1000 is worth more to a poor man than a rich man, the differing impact of monetary losses means the poor man's optimal level of risk is lower.
Does a rich man need to bother with IRAs? A rich man is less likely to lose so much that he finds himself in poverty, however a proportionately smaller amount of money needs to be sequestered to keep him from poverty, IRAs serve as a suitable benchmark for how much should be saved.
You can't withdraw without paying fees and taxes until you are 59½ but who ever spends 100% of their money anyway? If like me you are trying to reach $1 million, you need not spend the $5000 at the bottom of your pile, an IRA could represent your bottom margin, if things really get bad you can always withdraw early but you are unlikely to.
I'm not sure how easy it is to play around with the money in your IRA, I assume they have a way to conveniently withdraw money from failing stock to IRA cash and allow you to invest it elsewhere. I suggest just investing mainly in low risk bonds and putting a little into stocks, mainly just to see what their response is when you try to move it around frequently.
>>190 If they can supposedly invest a few $100s and receive 20 times the returns in a few days why are they advertising it over the internet?
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Still keeping tabs on this.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/10033806/Graphene-paint-could-power-homes-of-the-future.html You ought to as well.
As with all new technologies they tend to experience a bubble like the dot com bubble and the railway mania, due to the unpredictability larger companies engaged in other reliable and related technologies might be more desirable. You will then have to carefully watch the market for the warning signs of a bubble, the NASDAQ increased 80% over 6 months from October 1999 to March 2000, far exceeding the last peak and becoming obvious, hopefully not just in hindsight, after December.
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>>195 harder than diamond while being only one atom thickwhat the fuck am I reading... to even explain the basis of my confusion right now would take a modest paragraph.
Anyway, it seems like it would be expensive and difficult to manufacture. Might have to wait a long while yet
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>>196 ' >it seems like it would be expensive and difficult to manufactureThis is the kicker, it is in fact now no longer expensive and difficult to manufacture.
http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/2010/press.html Graphite is an abundant mineral composed of carbon, its structure is many layers of graphene stuck together. They put a piece of sticky tape on some graphite and peeled off a layer of graphene.
' >harder than diamond while being only one atom thick ' >to even explain the basis of my confusion right now would take a modest paragraphLong story short, carbon atoms can form 4 bonds. In diamond each carbon atom bonds with 4 other carbon atoms. In graphene each carbon atom bonds with 3 other carbon atoms. What happened to the 4th bond? It is "shared" among the 3 other carbon atoms.
In diamond, carbon atoms are bonded by a sigma bond. In graphene they are bonded by a sigma bond plus ⅓ of a delocalized pi bond.
Compared to other 1 atom thick materials graphene is a very strong material. Its unique properties can be used to produce superior materials with many different applications in industry. A rough example, airlines spend $200 billion on fuel every year, if a lighter stronger material reduced the mass of aircraft, reducing fuel costs, that would save around $2 billion for every 1% reduction in fuel costs, if a business commercialized graphene technology for this purpose and undercut existing technology they would receive a proportion of these savings. Even if their profits represent only 1% of these savings that is still $20 million. If you owned 1% of the shares in that company that would mean $200000, possibly a lot more as other investors get excited and pour their money into it. Hence the bubble I was talking about earlier.
Technology can be very profitable because products and services are very easily reproducible throughout the entire economy.
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>>197 It is worth mentioning in my example it would take many years to integrate new technology into the aircraft, begin production and gain the benefits of reduced fuel costs. The financial benefits though would arrive quicker, after the business proves their new materials are the future the airline industry will need to employ them to begin the design and development process.
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' Researchers Flash-Cook Algae Into Biocrude Oil in a Minute Flathttp://www.wired.com/autopia/2012/11/pressure-cooking-algae/ I believe I have mentioned cellular biology and genetics as up and coming technologies, along with graphene and nanotechnology. I have also thought about farming algae, however the production of ethanol was what I had in mind.
This is another development to monitor.
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Amazing development to develop
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>>68 [code]' >implying you can stop me implying things[/code]
Please don't bring imageboard tardery into the lounge. It is most unrelaxing and unlounge-like behavior. Also, this has become quite an interesting thread. I would like to see more of your methods and subscribe to your newsletter.
>>77 Fuck off, spammer.
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>>205 I've kind of lifted off from this thread and if there is the slightest chance 4chan might interfere with
muh million I will not take it. On the other hand I hate to be square and that is not how my mind works.
I will iron some things out first.
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>>208 while you're at it, could you quickly iron my shirts out too?
Thanks in advance.
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Nikkei rose from 9000 to 15000 since November 2012 and dropped 7.5% on May 23rd, earlier this year China took measures to cool real estate and we also had this.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-29/asian-officials-must-respond-early-to-overheating-risk-imf-says.html It hasn't crashed but I am still concerned about its meteoric rise the past few months, there is obviously a bubble. I expect this drop will signal the end of speculation and a period of erratic stagnancy, the bubble will deflate gradually rather than pop.
>>209 Yeah, sure. I am here to serve.
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What to do with this thread... 4chan is a trustworthy site, however its users are a hive of scum and villainy. Yet I do not want to abandon it.
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>>223 And who are you again? that's right a nobody! Anonymous
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>>224 lol... he's not even a somebody on world4ch Anonymous
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>>219 I'm still around, just moved on to other internet chatter sources.
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What do you guys think of the tesla bubble? Since coming out with their Model S they have drawn a lot of attention from investors excited by electric cars.
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=TSLA+Interactive#symbol=tsla;range=ytd Going to pop any time soon? Or is it full of long term investors?
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>>232 Tsk. Invest in some decency.
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Your ugly. Your voice sounds like you have Down syndrome. You're unable to recognize social queues. You have nothing resembling a personality. Go ahead and take some "assertiveness training" classes and try to get "confidence" and delude yourself into thinking you have a chance in society though.
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>>237 Don't make me kill you ;-;
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