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Full title: Sadhguru says his own enlightenment is impossible?
Sadhguru (Jaggi Vasudev) is an indian mystic who claims he has reached enlightenment, leading to him becoming a spiritual leader.
He said that he achieved enlightenment by sitting in meditation on a small hill, and suddenly feeling at one with everything. He explains the realization like this:
"'til that moment I always thought 'This is me, and that's somebody else.' I had no issue with that somebody else, but that is somebody, this is me. For the first time I did not know which is me and which is not me. What was me was just spread all over the place."
He described this as becoming enlightened.
(Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVoA4AhhgSw )
However, in a speech about how business people should deal with stress, he says that the entire world exists only as sensory perceptions in ones own mind, and that feeling anothers sensations is *impossible*:
"You have never experienced anything outside of yourself. [If] the person next to you right now touches you, you think you're experiencing *his* hand. No, you are only experiencing the sensations in *your* hand - you are *incapable* of experiencing the other hand."
(Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVoA4AhhgSw )
So what Sadhguru experienced in his enlightenment (if he's even telling the truth) must have been that everything only existed as sensory perceptions part of him, and not that he was part of everything else. First of all, that's not an uncommon realization - narcissists have that mindset all the time - and second of all, that's the very *opposite* of enlightenment.
The key to being a successful indian mystic in general, is to keep things mystical and obscured - to keep your listeners in the dark. You do this because once you describe your realization to others, people will either say that that realization is so common and mundane that it doesn't make you special, or they will realize this realization themselves, meaning you're not special anymore. Even the feat of feeling at one with everybody else, isn't a spiritual enlightenment unique enough to base a whole foundation on.
...but it's not Sadhguru's fault that he's popular, because a mystic is only as popular as his followers allow him to be. People come to Sadhguru because indians are spiritual suckers. They are under the impression that they need spiritualism to prevent their society from collapse. That's why they think delusional things about people that's just resting underneath trees.
Sadhguru (Jaggi Vasudev) is an indian mystic who claims he has reached enlightenment, leading to him becoming a spiritual leader.
He said that he achieved enlightenment by sitting in meditation on a small hill, and suddenly feeling at one with everything. He explains the realization like this:
"'til that moment I always thought 'This is me, and that's somebody else.' I had no issue with that somebody else, but that is somebody, this is me. For the first time I did not know which is me and which is not me. What was me was just spread all over the place."
He described this as becoming enlightened.
(Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVoA4AhhgSw )
However, in a speech about how business people should deal with stress, he says that the entire world exists only as sensory perceptions in ones own mind, and that feeling anothers sensations is *impossible*:
"You have never experienced anything outside of yourself. [If] the person next to you right now touches you, you think you're experiencing *his* hand. No, you are only experiencing the sensations in *your* hand - you are *incapable* of experiencing the other hand."
(Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVoA4AhhgSw )
So what Sadhguru experienced in his enlightenment (if he's even telling the truth) must have been that everything only existed as sensory perceptions part of him, and not that he was part of everything else. First of all, that's not an uncommon realization - narcissists have that mindset all the time - and second of all, that's the very *opposite* of enlightenment.
The key to being a successful indian mystic in general, is to keep things mystical and obscured - to keep your listeners in the dark. You do this because once you describe your realization to others, people will either say that that realization is so common and mundane that it doesn't make you special, or they will realize this realization themselves, meaning you're not special anymore. Even the feat of feeling at one with everybody else, isn't a spiritual enlightenment unique enough to base a whole foundation on.
...but it's not Sadhguru's fault that he's popular, because a mystic is only as popular as his followers allow him to be. People come to Sadhguru because indians are spiritual suckers. They are under the impression that they need spiritualism to prevent their society from collapse. That's why they think delusional things about people that's just resting underneath trees.
