Minister warns of ‘inbred’ Muslims
A government minister has warned that inbreeding among immigrants is causing a surge in birth defects - comments likely to spark a new row over the place of Muslims in British society.
Phil Woolas, an environment minister, said the culture of arranged marriages between first cousins was the “elephant in the room”. Woolas, a former race relations minister, said: “If you have a child with your cousin the likelihood is there’ll be a genetic problem.”
The minister, whose views were supported by medical experts this weekend, said: “The issue we need to debate is first cousin marriages, whereby a lot of arranged marriages are with first cousins, and that produces lots of genetic problems in terms of disability [in children].”
Woolas emphasised the practice did not extend to all Muslim communities but was confined mainly to families originating from rural Pakistan. However, up to half of all marriages within these communities are estimated to involve first cousins.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article3342040.ece
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Medical research suggests that while British Pakistanis are responsible for 3% of all births, they account for one in three British children born with genetic illnesses. The minister’s comments come as Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, rejected calls to resign over claims that Islamic law should be introduced in Britain. “I’m not contemplating resignation,” he told friends.
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Williams insists his remarks were misinterpreted and that he was not advocating a parallel sharia jurisdiction for Muslims, but Lord Carey, his predecessor, warned acceptance of Muslim laws in Britain would be "disastrous". The archbishop is believed to have received hate mail since he made his controversial comments but has rejected offers of round-the-clock police protection. Williams is set to clash with the government again this week by voicing opposition to plans to extend detention without charge for terrorist suspects to 42 days. Woolas, who represents the ethnically mixed seat of Oldham East and Saddleworth, has previously warned that Muslim women who wear headscarves could provoke “fear and resentment”. Yesterday, he was similarly outspoken. “If you talk to any primary care worker they will tell you that levels of disability among the . . . Pakistani population are higher than the general population. And everybody knows it’s caused by first cousin marriage. “That’s a cultural thing rather than a religious thing. It is not illegal in this country.
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“The problem is that many of the parents themselves and many of the public spokespeople are themselves products of first cousin marriages. It’s very difficult for people to say ‘you can’t do that’ because it’s a very sensitive, human thing.” He added that the issue is not talked about. “The health authorities look into it. Most health workers and primary care trusts in areas like mine are very aware of it. But it’s a very sensitive issue. That’s why it’s not even a debate and people outside of these areas don’t really know it exists.” Woolas was supported by Ann Cryer, Labour MP for Keighley, who called for the NHS to do more to warn parents of the dangers of inbreeding. “This is to do with a medieval culture where you keep wealth within the family,” she said. “If you go into a paediatric ward in Bradford or Keighley you will find more than half of the kids there are from the Asian community. Since Asians only represent 20%-30% of the population, you can see that they are over represented. “I have encountered cases of blindness and deafness. There was one poor girl who had to have an oxygen tank on her back and breathe from a hole in the front of her neck. “The parents were warned they should not have any more children. But when the husband returned again from Pakistan, within months they had another child with exactly the same condition.”
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WOW, SANDNIGGERS ARE SURPASSING STORMFAGS ON THE NOBLE SPORT OF INBREEDING! STORMFAGS, YOU WON'T LET THEM BEAT YOU EASY AS THAT, WILL YOU?
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lol because Brits and Amerifags don't inbreed?
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>>675231 well, british nobles do..
CapitalistBastard !!f/pELCnjRD0
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>Medical research suggests that while British Pakistanis are responsible for 3% of all births, they account for one in three British children born with genetic illnesses. I lol'd.
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The British are in fact the most in bred people on the planet, Brits won't fuck anyone but a Brit. Please, people.
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Wait, why mohammed is blowing Michael Jackson??!
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>>675272 Because their teeth are so fucked up.
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>It’s very difficult for people to say ‘you can’t do that’ because it’s a very sensitive, human thing. >sensitive God, I hate that word.
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>>675289 look, im not british but we americans have a lot to learn about dental hygiene from british people. Their teeth are really good so stfu.
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>>675293 seconded. brits have pretty decent teeth.
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>>675293 i agree tbh, most of the brits i've met have really good teeth, better than american teeth.
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I want to see a scientific study (or preferably series of studies) that proves the link between inbreeding and genetic disorders. Seriously, you hear about it and I know the 'theory' behind it but where's the evidence? If anyone can find me a reference I really would be grateful as this question has been bugging me for a long time.
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>>675325 didn't you even go through high school or is your education system THAT shitty?
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>>675301 Actually true - this is because brits don't have fluoride in the drinking water.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/71584.php Anonymous
>>675337 No one on 4chan has graduated from high school.
Hell most of the people here are still IN high school.
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>>675343 is that sum sad self-realization?
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Inbreeding has the same effect as breeding with a nigger.
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/n/ - the board with the lowest average IQ yes, even lower than /b/.
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>>675337 High school taught me to look for evidence rather than just accept what the christians say.
Also what kind of high school teaches inbreeding?
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>>675343 so most should be BANNED for BEING FUCKING UNDERAGE?
RIGHT?
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>>675361 lern2biology, inbred faggot
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>>675361 High school is like one giant religious cult of nationalism / religion.
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>>675361 HAHAHAHAH OH WOW
You Americans always get me...
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>>675378 BUT LIBERALS TOLD ME IQ IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT AND HAS NO BASIS IN BIOLOGY LOL
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This approves again that muslims are subhuman vermin
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>>675378 Your source is from 1978.
I'm sure genetic study has improved the last 30 years.
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>>675389 Jews are more inbred.
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>>675378 Thanks, but as I stated I already know the theory. This does give me somewhere to start though as hopefully the information I'm after is in one of the references.
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>>675397 THEORY OF GRAVITY IS OLD, ITS PROBABLY OUTDATED AND WE SHOULD TEACH SOMETHING ELSE IN SCHOOLS.
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>>675325 Some genetic defects like hemophilia are recessive in nature and can only actually manifest the disorder when both the mother and father have the gene. Inbreeding produces genetic traits that are similar between offspring, so any defect like hemophilia that is not wide spread has a better chance to manifest with the application of inbreeding.
Of course there is a reverse edge to that argument as well, in that positive attributes are more likely to be passed on. It really depends on the individual genetics of the family lines that begin inbreeding. If they are very strong, they will produce strong children. If they are weak, they will produce weak children.
This of course ignores the fact that incest isn't just about sex, it's about inappropriate and excessive intimacy on a social level as well as a physical level. If you never go out and socialize or form social connections with people outside of your family, do you think that is a healthy behavior? Becoming to dependant on your family members for everything including sex is probably a bad thing that could present all kinds of problems such as, oh I dunno, excessive XENOPHOBIA, perhaps.
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The trait bell curve for inbreds is different than for normal people. They have a higher chance of being retards. These genetic incompatibilities get straightened out in 2-3 generations and everything gets back to normal anyway.
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>>675398 Muslims are worse then kikes, there is nothing lower then filthy disgusting islamic cockroaches
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So the studies I want are -
Slatis & Hoene (1961), Neel et al (1970), Kudo et al (1972), & Schull & Neel (1965)
I guess I'll make a day of it at the library tomorrow, thanks.
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I study psychology and psychometrics, and the cost of 'cousin marriage' is typically 7-8 IQ points. Much like mating with a negro, as a person earlier said. Smaller types of inbreeding (say, White on White, even within a small population like ~200 whose gene flow stayed there for 500 years) simply have no negative effect on IQ and are completely normal, despite some race-mixing liberals claiming otherwise with no data. In fact, there are even outbreeding depression effects.
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>>675459 Jensen, A (1998). The g Factor. Westport,CT: Praeger.
Get this book, it's probably the best work on IQ ever made. Turn to page ~190-200 (can't remember now exactly). And it talks about the inbreeding effect on IQ and cites some tens of studies.
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>>675472 Does it also present the arguments against use of IQ as a measure of intelligence or academic potential?
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>>675453 Did you ever notice that all of those posters must have been made by the same person? Just look at the S on it.
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>>675495 >Does it also present the arguments against use of IQ as a measure of intelligence or academic potential? You mean present and refute them? Yes, he does.
Picture unrelated to the book, but very relevant.
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>>675649 I'll have a look then.
I'm not keen on sources that don't at least acknowledge the other theories (I see enough of that with the selective blindness of posters on scienceblogs).
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>>675713 I think you will find, at least after reading the book, the evidence for the usefulness of IQ and what it measures rather compelling. Since this is a book that deals with IQ, a topic deemed 'controversial' by, let's call them, left wing faggots, of course it discusses opposing theories. It's a book that presents all the evidence gathered so far... and let's just say this is the 'standard' (everyone accepts it save some kooks, it's the working theory, just like evolution by natural selection is) version of what IQ measures. If you see a random peer reviewed article finding a correlation between something and 'cognitive ability'/'intelligence,' it means IQ tests and the 'g' factor.
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http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.evolhumbehav.2007.07.005 )