http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7239829.stm Four people have been arrested in the United States for allegedly passing secret defence information to China. A 72-year-old former Boeing engineer is accused of giving China details about the space shuttle and other aerospace programmes. In a separate case, three people are accused of handing over US defence department documents.
A FBI spokesman said the arrests showed it was committed to protecting US assets "from foreign thievery". Chinese-born Dongfan "Greg" Chung, 72, of California, faces charges including eight counts of economic espionage, conspiracy, and making false statements to FBI investigators.
The US justice department said Mr Chung, a naturalised US citizen, worked at Rockwell International and Boeing on the space shuttle programme. It added that he retired in 2002 but was working for Boeing as a contractor until 2006.
The charges claim he took Boeing trade secrets relating to the space shuttle, the C-17 military transport aircraft and the Delta IV rocket for the benefit of China.
In a separate case, a defence department employee and two others are accused of passing US government documents and information to China. The three suspects are Tai Shen Kuo, 58; Yu Xin Kang, 33; and Gregg William Bergersen, 51.
Mr Bergersen, a weapons systems policy analyst for an agency within the defence department, was charged with conspiracy to disclose national defence information "to persons not entitled to receive it".
Tai Shen Kuo and Yu Xin Kang are charged "with conspiracy to disclose national defence information to a foreign government".
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HEY GUYS LETS REPOST THIS SAME FUCKING ARTICLE THREE FUCKING TIMES.
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DEPORT THE CHINESE
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FORCE THE CHINESE TO MAKE ME BUFFET STYLE CHICKEN AND FRIED RICE
Anonymous
I love how the US focuses on powerless muslims while largely ignoring actual threats. That's why I'm learning to speak Chinese.
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>>679532 That's why i'm learning the basics of the modern world, and rudementary agriculture.
Because when the apocalypse occurs at least i'll be prepared.
Anonymous
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you must ally with /k/ for additional defence
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THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU WHITE PEOPLE STOP GOING TO ENGINEERING SCHOOL TO GET YOUR MBA!
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Of course they must steal our plans, the Chinese can't make shit themselves.
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>>679573 actually the ones who can would rather get paid 10x as much in America, then secure their retirement by re-selling their work to China.
Anonymous
Space Shuttle is and will always will be boondoggle pork to keep NASA busy. If the slants want to copy that dead end concept like the Ruskies did more power to them.
Anonymous
>>679585 Space shuttle was designed for the military, so NASA expected lots of launches, thus lower cost per launch. Then the military changed its mind and NASA was left with a shuttle it would not have designed otherwise.
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>>THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU WHITE PEOPLE STOP GOING TO ENGINEERING SCHOOL TO GET YOUR MBA!
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>>679632 and those firms wonder why chinks feel no loyalty and sell trade secrets.
Anonymous
>>679585 There's a lot of advanced tech with the space shuttle.
But yes, anyone building reusable space vehicles with current liquid propellent is a retard.
>>679590 The problem is they stuck with the shuttle + the ISS both of which are giant piles of stupidity nonsense. They need to be ditched immediately.
ISS is a noble idea, but as long as the space shuttle is being used it's a giant waste of time.
NUCLEAR PULSE PROPULSION
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>>679666 The best possible application for rocket technology today is the expulsion of nuclear wastes into the outer reaches of the solar system. If we can send voyager out, when the planets are lined up right, why can't we send out our nuclear waste?
Excellent opportunity there.
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bye, Amerikkka
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>> In a letter he sent back to China, he is reported to have expressed "a desire to contribute to the Motherland",
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>>679036 I KNOW WHAT WE SHOULD DO IN RESPONSE!
Let's all whistle and twiddle out thumbs! That'll show 'em!
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>>679948 Americans care more about dead kikes in Israel than their own secrets being stolen by a potential rival
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fucking christ
Anonymous
So a Chinese man decided that helping his fellow Chinese was more important than helping his country? Oh wait, he thinks that the country of his race is more important than the country he has lived in most of his life.
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>>679970 RACE TRAITOR! HAIL CHINA!
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>>679970 not a chink
>>679975 failure at life
general butthurt
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>>679677 Because its one of the heaviest wastes in the world and it costs millions of dollars a kilo to move something onto the launch pad let alone send it into the sky.
And im pretty sure nobody wants a rocket filled with radioactive waste exploding over their farm.
Best option is to NUKE CHINA NOW, JUST DO IT.
IT SOLVES CLIMATE CHANGE, ENDS COMMUNISM, SAVES COUNTLESS PEOPLE FROM HAVING TO LOOK AT DIRTY CHINKS COMING INTO THEIR COUNTRY AND LISTENING TO THAT HORRIBLE LANGUAGE, WILL PREVENT COUNTLESS CASES OF FOOD POISONING FROM SHITTY CHINESE FOOD AND WILL FINALLY CURE OUR FRAGILE EARTH FROM THE ASIAN CULTURE THAT HAS PLAGUED IT FOR MANY YEARS NOW.
IF ONLY WE HAD NUKED THE FUCK OUT OF CHINA IN WWII THE WORLD WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE.
Anonymous
>>679981 Yeah you would know. Not every Chinese person is a raging nationalist fag. That kind of garbage only further perpetrates China as an aggressive, faceless empire.
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>not a chink
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>>680018 Chinese: the Jews of Asia. The real part of Asia, anyway.
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>>679993 >That kind of garbage only further perpetrates China as an aggressive, faceless empire. They are.
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IM NOT RACIST BUT THE CHINESE ARE BY FAR THE SHITTIEST PEOPLES TO EVER INHABIT ANY PLANET.
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>>679975 You know, a few months ago i was reading a topic on how MIT,HARVARD,CALTECH were full of chinks and even a buddy of mine told me that one of his brothers witnessed a bus that was heading to MIT infested with chinks.
Chinks are sending smart chinks to universities to fucking infiltrate and sap technology.
while whities turn liberal, worry about shit, go to arts school and get business degrees
ENJOY CHINA NEW EMPIRE, HOPE THAT BUSINESS DEGREE HELPS YOU TO MANAGE YOUR SWEATSHOP SALARY
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>>680018 Yeah, but that's Malaysia. Malaysia sucks.
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The culture is pretty disgusting, every chinatown is filthy and i cant stand the sound of the language.
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>>680059 I'm gonna give you an advice buddy.
If you want your kind to survive CHINA NEW EMPIRE reign, marry a chink woman.
at least you'll be in a level higher than sweatshop slave
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>Chinatown is dirty, smelly and FULL OF GOOKS
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>>680033 This is why I worry about Chinese more than any other group. Blacks in America don't really feel obligated to Africa, and even many Muslims don't feel obligated to the Middle East, but most Chinese I've spoken with, even second generation ones, think China is God's gift to the world and would betray America in a instant to help China get ahead.
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>even many Muslims don't feel obligated to the Middle East
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>>680069 Somehow, I feel like you're speaking in hyperbole. I know it's easy for white people to hang on to archaic stereotypes, but second generation kids are just as american as you or me. I'm third generation. I have not met a single chinese american who's more loyal to china than to america.
†Invisible Sky Magician† FUCK GOD. What are ya gonna do about it, bitch?. !!I9XpXfP4okU
†Invisible Sky Magician† FUCK GOD. What are ya gonna do about it, bitch?. !!I9XpXfP4okU Tue 12 Feb 2008 09:00:00 No. 680233 Report >>680059 >Chinese women are by far the ugliest asians as well. Wrong.
In order from best to worst:
1. Japanese
2. South Korean
3. Hong Kong Chinese
4. Mainland Chinese
5. Every other South-East Asian nation (EG. ladyboys) including the rest of the Asian countries including India and the Middle East.
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>>680233 Wrong as usual :
1) Northern Chinese
2) Japanese
3) Southern Chinese
4) Korean
5) Northern South Asians - Light Skinned Indians
5) Southeastern Asians - Viets, Thai, et al
6) Islander Asians - Flips, Malays
7) Southern South Asians - Dark Indians
This is the true correct ranking.
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>>680250 What? Hell no. I'm Chinese myself and Northern Chinese are ugly as fuck. South ftw.
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>>680229 I haven't met any third gens who can speak fluent Chinese let alone care about China. But second gens it seems to depend more on whether they were raised in Chinatown, with nationalist Chinese or not.
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Which ones are the flat faces chinks, the north or south? The flinks are so damn ugly.
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>>680250 Putting Korean beneath Japanese makes about as much sense as putting Swedish beneath British.
Koreans are way, way, way better looking than their inbred islander cousins.
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>>680290 Japs aren't inbred by a long measure, and Koreans/Japanese are the same ethnicity despite what they like to tell people
Anonymous
>>680310 Japs, Koreans, and Chinese are all the same ethnicity essentially.
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>>680320 HOW DARE YOU COMPARE THE MIGHTY CHINESE GENE TO THE WANING JAPANESE! THEY CANT EVEN KEEP UP THEIR POPULATION NUMBERS! JAPAN HAS FAILED AS A RACE, SOON CHINA WILL CONQUER THAT LITTLE ISLAND OF JAPAN!
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>>680290 Koreans are ugly as fcuk. For thousands of years they are the ones who have been stuck on an isolated peninsula inbreeding with each other.
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>>680310 That's just it - they are the inbred descendants of a handful of koreans, mixed with aborginal ainu and some darkie pacific islanders. Just like the brits with their celtic, norman, and saxon blood. Shit, they've both even got fucked-up teeth.
At least the brits got conquered a few times to liven up their gene pool. The nips have been double-dipping in their gene pool since the start of their recorded history. You can't just ignore that shit, folks. Short, cross-eyed, bow-legged and extremely xenophobic.. all these are traits which mildly inbred populations express, and which anybody in asia would tell you the Japanese fit like a glove.
Weeaboos need not reply, thanks.
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>>680337 xenophobic = good.
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>>680325 Yes, just imagine if that penninsula was an island..
Hurts, doesn't it fag?
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>>680320 Not quite
Southern Chinese + Southern tribes is one ethnicity
Northern Chinese + Northern non-Chinese tribes is one ethnicity
First wave Korean/Japanese settlers were a separate ethnicity
Second wave Koreans and Japanese settlers are one ethnicity
Historic North Koreans are a blend of northern tribes and traditional korean
Japanese natives are/were a completely different ethnicity
Mongols are a separate ethnicity
Real Asians can tell them all apart.
Anonymous
Too bad Japanese enjoy luxurious first-world lives while you "superior" Chinese live like savages in shantytowns and die by the thousands to government organ wagons and lung cancer from your horrifically poorly-regulated industry.
Anonymous
>>680325 >>680337 Wrong, faggots. Learn some real history.
Koreans interbred heavily with northern tribes (Jin, Mongol, Manchu and even Turks), and Chinese immigrants when they were assimilated for hundreds of years.
Japan has had a constant flood of immigrants (mostly first wave, pure S. Koreans) from the mainland for over 1200 years of its history up until the decades leading to the Imjin war. Native Japan had a tiny, non-Asian population that was easily assimilated into the East Asian gene pool.
Both Korea and Japan considered themselves the same ethnicity and cooperated in trade, diplomacy, military AND immigration until after the Mongolian conquest. Clans on both sides forbid inbreeding within familial clans, and encouraged the marrying of nobles from overseas. Ergo, neither country is inbred, you stupid white fucks.
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>>680365 and live in a cesspool of stress, worry about university, are ronery to the max.
no thanks.
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>>680382 OH GOD I HAVE TO ACTUALLY DO WELL IN LIFE? SHIT!
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China is the africa of asia.
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>>680365 You should see how the Chinese who learned how to exploit the new capitalist China live. They also have a quickly growing middle class now, but it's still quit the poor shithole speckled with pockets of massive investments in infrastructure.
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>>680382 Not to mention the world's highest suicide rate and negative population growth!
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>>680365 Lol at Japan being first-world for 50 years.
If you went back 3000 years and took a 'snapshot' of the Earth, and ranked the Asian/European/Arab civilizations, China would be on top.
If you went back 2500 years, China would be on top.
If you went back 2000 years, China would be on top.
If you went back 1500 years, China would be on top.
If you went back 1000 years, China would be on top.
If you went back 500 years, Mongols/China would be on top.
And at present, China is a rising power. If you went 500 years in the future, based on history dont you think China will be on top again?
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>>680412 more like world largest glass bowl am I right!
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>>680378 Nigger, if you think the Japanese aristrocrat class isn't inbred, take a good goddamn look at a circa 1800s picture of him and a picture of a farmer or fisherman. They're STILL two seperate races for fuck's sake, right down to the height, build, facial features and skin tone.
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ITT retards with no understanding of genetics
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>>680412 LOL, you sound like a fucking Iranian.
"Baw baw baw, respect us, we USED to be good! BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!"
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>>680427 That was the 1800s, the same could be said of many European royalty, but not the general population.
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>>680444 >>"Baw baw baw, respect us, we USED to be good! BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!" China used to be good? China is on the rise, it isnt a stagnant country like Iran. China has a thriving economy with a growing middle-class and huge manufacturing base. It has the world's largest military and is improving technologically every year.
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>>680412 What a load of shit, Europe was on top for most of that time and even Arabs and Hindus had their time in the sun. Typical sinocentric garbage.
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>>680471 no it wasnt. you should stop listening to your eurocentric garbage history. Read a book or something.
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>>680470 and the rest of the first world is generations ahead of ding-dong land and stable. China, on the other hand, faces a literal legion of stability issues: too few women; a murderous, corrupt, incompetent government; near-universal hatred outside of Africa that makes even the U.S. look loved; rampant air pollution; too little food; too little water; too little fuel; rampant desertification...
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>>680471 stop being butthurt, europe was total shit until the 1600s
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>>680484 Cry more, Ping. Face it: European savages kicked your asses, got you hooked on opium, raped your economies, and touched every single corner of the globe while you wallowed in your own shit.
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>>680496 >>European savages kicked your asses, got you hooked on opium, raped your economies, and touched every single corner of the globe while you wallowed in your own shit. All of this happened within the last 400 years. Now what in this post
>>680412 is wrong?
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>>680505 So China was really good at ruling China. Oooh, how exciting! LU BU GUAN YU HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
The idea of China as a rising power is, frankly, ridiculous.
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>>680484 I'm no Eurocentrist, I just see things the way they are.
China's hayday came during the Song-Tang dynasties when Europe was in the dark ages. But what other period in history has China achieved more? The ancient times? The Han weren't bad, but their achievements are dwarfed by the Greeks and Romans. The Early Ming? Not bad either, almost industrial age. But again, eclipsed by the Renaissance in Europe.
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>>680514 You don't know shit about shit, I'm afraid.
(I'm not about to improve your situation, enjoy the rich life of a sophomoric twat.)
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>>680322 >>680337 >>680365 >>680412 I guarantee none of these posters are even Asian, or if they are they're just immigrants or nationalists, meaning their opinions are worthless.
Seriously you dumb fuckers, do you really think everyone behaves like this back at home? Most Asians go about their business just like any ordinary guy, we don't take every chance to demonize each other and flame each other over the past and exaggerate each other's flaws. People that go on their hellbent rage to piss everyone off and make each other look bad are not respected at all, not even China these days. Enemies? No. Friendly rivals, perhaps.
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>>680527 >Oh shit, Anon called my bluff. I better scoff to save face! Anonymous
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>>680527 is that why you don't have an argument?
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>>680514 Somebody has been watching too much '300'.
Greek/Roman civilizations did not even match China in terms of land/economy/people/technology. There is not one European/Asian/Arab past civilization that matched China until the Mongols conquered China.
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CHING CHING CHONG FONG!!!!!!!!!!
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>>680539 The Roman Empire at its peak is nearly twice the size of the Han dynasty at its peak
And how many Greek thinkers, Greek philosophies, and Greek works from that era can be verified compared to ones in the Han dynasty? Saying there were "a lot" is not really evidence, nor is it proof of their cultural significance.
Now, like most people in the civilized world, I don't attach much feeling to the past. If China proves to be the greatest civilization, and I came from some backwards shithole, that would bother me very little. But in the end the truth is right there, Europe DOES have more accomplishments for most of history and over time. Am I bragging about it? No. But that doesn't mean I'll agree with you when clearly what you say is not true.
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>>680559 greeks invented steam power, romans invented concrete, technology was actually pretty advanced for 2000 years ago. If the Roman empire hadn't fallen, we'd be colonizing deep space as citizens of Rome by now.
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>>680585 Perfected by whites.
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>>680511 Actually, what he said was the China wasn't very good at ruling China for the past ~400 years due to concentrated external (I'd say about 350) attack and undermining by just about every country in europe, all to the end that china open up for trade with the rest of the world (blame the Ching dynasty for that one, but the nips were doing the same and I don't hear you sayin' shit about that one, my trolling weeaboo faggot).
China lost, and has been opening up, by and by, even through the travails of communism, ever since. Now, in the next 100 years, we'll see just how well she will better her instructors in the arena of global economic superpower. They already have our dollar by the balls, you know (*you* don't, of course).
I'm a descendant of people who came over on the Mayflower, btw, so aim your ad homs somewhere else, faggots.
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>>680589 nips paid in full when we dropped a fatman and littleboy onto them.
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>>680559 >>The Roman Empire at its peak is nearly twice the size of the Han dynasty at its peak Lol. More eurocentric crap. Pic related.
Roman Empire At Its Height :
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en-commons/thumb/d/d4/400px-Roman_Empire_Map.png Han Empire At Its Height :
http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/prehistory/china/images/hanmap.gif Anonymous
>>680595 Most of ding-dong land is worthless desert wasteland or uninhabitable mountains.
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The fact remains that the Roman Empire had a far greater impact upon the world than any Chinese civilization. Therefore, this penis-measuring contest as to which empire was larger is utterly pointless.
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>>680595 hurrrr exaggeration Anonymous
>>680595 Han Chinese Empire Vs Rome Empire :
Larger Empire In Terms Of Size = China
Larger Popularion = China
Larger Army = China
Larger Economy = China
Better Technology = China
Keep living in your eurocentric world.
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>>680605 durr ... learn to read. 'at its height'
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>>680595 Middle Asia is debatable, as there's pretty much no one there
Rome had to conquer a lot of other civilizations to expand into the middle east
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>>680607 Wrong on all accounts except size. The bottom line is you had more people, ergo larger economy.
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>>680593 No.. the nips were forcably opened up back in the 1800s. At gun(ship)point.
The nips haven't repaid their karmic debt for the shit they pulled in and prior to WW2, but don't worry, it'll catch up to them.
You cannot escape from Karma.
p.s. give flan plz
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>>680539 >land Cyrus the Great made the Zhou look like a bunch of fucking amatuers.
>economy The safety and engineering capacity the Roman legions provided reliable and safe travel for goods was only something the Han could have dreamed of.
>people If by quality, you surely must be joking. Greek and Roman philosphers make their chinese contemporaries look like small minded children. Greek and Arab mathmaticians left their Chinese rivals in the dust. If you're referring to population, then that'd be correct.
>Technology The Indian subcontinent was practising iron metallury 5 centuries before the chinese.
Pathetic Chink trying to over inflate his peoples glory days is pathetic.
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>>680615 >>680593 This has nothing to do with what he said, proof that westerners can only spew what little cliches they know about Asians
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>>680599 even if you took out the desert, the Han Empire was still larger than the Roman Empire. And the Roman Empire certainly wasnt twice the size the Han Chinese.
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>>680595 lol, China. So evolved that it's been lagging behind everyone else in the modern age. It had it's good points in history, but don't over inflate it as well.
Quality over quantity. There is a reason everything from China either falls apart or has lead in it.
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>>680620 Quality over quantity.
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>>680620 On your mercator projection, maybe
Rome captured real centers of civilization, other civlizations in foreign lands. China merely expanded along her coast, then claimed the barren lands as their own. This is why ROMAN influence can be seen all over europe today, whereas Chinese foreign influence comes from the Tang dynasty
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>>680616 7.2/10, points off due to resorting to childish namecalling (chi-com would have brought it down to 3), other than that excellent troll [variety: cherry-picker, sub-class: appeal to authority]
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>>680622 Both the Roman/Greek Empire fell in centuries. China has endured for millenia.
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>>680626 Is what you say when you have no real argument
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>>680627 Dynasties come and go. China only maintains as a region, a lasting civilization only in name.
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>>680627 Several Chinese empires have risen and fallen, moron.
Besides that, saying that China has "endured" is a laughable falsehood. The modern China is starving and produces rubber novelty dog vomit for the world's plutocrats. Ancient China would be humiliated to be associated with such a pathetic nation.
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>>680625 lol basing a civilization's strength on what a nation is in year 2008 instead of 3000 years old. Europe was a shit-hole full of 'barbarians'.
The Huns, Scythians, Persians, etc of Middle Asia were great civilizations.
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>>680627 That's only because they called you the same thing. If this were a dynasty in the past I doubt they'd assume all the previous dynasties were the same civilization.
Back to the point though, deport the Chinese so we don't have to deal with their rampant nationalism (as evidenced in this thread) and backstabbing treachery.
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tldr powerful countries are able to and do steal from each other and use underhanded tactics
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>>680628 2/10, a predictable and dissapointing follow-up to a non-topic meta-post of all things.
GB2 troll school, kiddo, your assertions are flabby and weak, despite your misleadingly promising start.
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>>680642 Oh, am I wrong? Where's your argument, then? In fact, the only things I've seen you do is made unsupported statements, then ad hominems when I reply to them.
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Romans and Chinese never fought on the battlefield. So you take common enemies and extrapolate from there : the Huns.
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>>680678 The Han defeat of the Huns which caused the Hun migration to the west/Europe, driving them into direct conflict with the Roman empire. This was one of the reasons of the downfall of the Roman empire.
