Gov. Ed Rendell, one of Hillary Rodham Clinton's most visible supporters, said some white Pennsylvanians are likely to vote against her rival Barack Obama because he is black.
"You've got liberal whites here, and I think there are some whites who are probably not ready to vote for an African-American candidate," Rendell told the editorial board of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette in remarks that appeared in Tuesday's paper.
To buttress his point, Rendell cited his 2006 re-election campaign, in which he defeated Republican challenger Lynn Swann, the former Pittsburgh Steelers star, by a margin of more than 60 percent to less than 40 percent.
"I believe, looking at the returns in my election, that had Lynn Swann been the identical candidate that he was — well-spoken, charismatic, good-looking — but white instead of black, instead of winning by 22 points, I would have won by 17 or so," he said. "And that (attitude) exists. But on the other hand, that is counterbalanced by Obama's ability to bring new voters into the electoral pool."
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gIjYa42R0UUEGs0_AyNg506-z8FgD8UP1VUG0
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Between Philly & Pittsburgh lie 300 miles of what we refer to as PENNSYLTUCKY.
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>>684140 South of Springdale, Arkansas is what we refer to as Fayettenam
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I think more common is White people under the age of 30 who vote for him BECAUSE he is black and PRETEND Change and unity are issues and not buzzwords like "pro-active" Look at approval ratings in the Bush White house who had the highest of them all? Condi and Colin, why? We give them a little shadow of a doubt cause they are black. Be it conscious or subconcious, young people adore a negro candidate despite his horrible issues and unqualification (which everyone says is a good thing, then why don't they hire a 20 year old fry cook to run their business? if inexperience makes you so good?)
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>>684146 how friggin civilized is N. Ark.?
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>>684140 No fucking lie, I recently took a trip to Pittsburgh from Eastern PA. It was like the fucking Oregon trail.
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>>684161 Not half bad, actually. We've got walmart headquartered up here so a bunch of rich vendors moved in and demanded better schools and infrastructure and had the money to pay for it.
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>>684150 I'm certainly not going to vote for a McCain based on experience so why fault a well educated, well spoken Obama?
No individual is "qualified" to run a large country so they surround themselves with the various experts on the economy, defense and other niches of government.
Obama stole Clinton's old election pros which tells me he has the savvy to reach out for the best people.
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THE NUMBER OF WHITE PEOPLE PEOPLE NOT VOTING FOR OBAMA BECAUSE THEY'RE RACIST WHITE PEOPLE WILL BE CANCELLED OUT BY THE NUMBER OF BLACK PEOPLE WHO WILL VOTE FOR OBAMA BECAUSE THEY'RE RACIST BLACK PEOPLE. THE NUMBER OF WHITE PEOPLE PEOPLE NOT VOTING FOR OBAMA BECAUSE THEY'RE RACIST WHITE PEOPLE WILL BE CANCELLED OUT BY THE NUMBER OF BLACK PEOPLE WHO WILL VOTE FOR OBAMA BECAUSE THEY'RE RACIST BLACK PEOPLE. THE NUMBER OF WHITE PEOPLE PEOPLE NOT VOTING FOR OBAMA BECAUSE THEY'RE RACIST WHITE PEOPLE WILL BE CANCELLED OUT BY THE NUMBER OF BLACK PEOPLE WHO WILL VOTE FOR OBAMA BECAUSE THEY'RE RACIST BLACK PEOPLE. THE NUMBER OF WHITE PEOPLE PEOPLE NOT VOTING FOR OBAMA BECAUSE THEY'RE RACIST WHITE PEOPLE WILL BE CANCELLED OUT BY THE NUMBER OF BLACK PEOPLE WHO WILL VOTE FOR OBAMA BECAUSE THEY'RE RACIST BLACK PEOPLE. tl;dr: his blackiddity is ultimately a non-issue
>>684150 >his horrible issues and unqualification (which everyone says is a good thing, then why don't they hire a 20 year old fry cook to run their business? if inexperience makes you so good?) at least democrats don't elect Bush who was only a governor. ron paul isn't even a senator, yet stormfags jerk off to him like he's some kind of guru.
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>>684173 Good, you folks need private investment since it's a cinch Bush won't even rebuild the parts of Miss. & LA destroyed by Katrina. The Netscape guy in Mississippi contributed a bunch of cash but we have areas of the country that really need billions spent on education from K thru college.
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Fuck you Rendell, I'll be voting for Obama.
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>>684185 nice buzz words "well spoken" "savvy"
aren't those just other words for "I think he's cool" while ignoring major issues?
You're talking about a guy who doesn't believe a baby that was born alive and survived a botched abortion has a right to be alive. A guy who wants to ban the manufacture sale and ownership of all guns, and a man whose primary voting blocks are a bunch of Underageb&s.
If we voted on things like ISSUES rather then who looks cooler we'd have Biden on the short track, but no you democrats are all affirmative action so you fight hand over fist to hand it to a black man or a white woman not stopping to ask if anyone else is a better choice.
If Condoleeza Rice ran you'd all vote for her cause she's black AND a woman. All she would have to do is repeat "change" and "unity" like a broken record of Giulianni saying 9/11.
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>>684196 The Right owes us 50 years of apologies for 8 years of Bush.
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>>684197 Here's 50 cents. Buy some reading comprehension, dumbfuck.
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>>684196 Bush was a bad choice for obvious reasons and i'm not talking job experience.
Besides at least Paul showed up to vote. All Obama ever votes is "present" that's IF he shows up for his 3 day workweek. Of course he may or may not keep his word. He said he'd vote AGAINST renewing the patriot act, and then voted FOR it.
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>>684213 Or the independents/naderites who voted for him over kerry
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>>684213 And if you guys keep it up, you guys will owe the Right 120 years of apologies. Minus the 50 the right owes you, that leaves you with a debt of 70 years.
But just keep on pushing those social welfare buttons. It'll fix all our problems.
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>>684210 "You're talking about a guy who doesn't believe a baby that was born alive and survived a botched abortion has a right to be alive. A guy who wants to ban the manufacture sale and ownership of all guns, and a man whose primary voting blocks are a bunch of Underageb&s."
I'm Pro-Choice having experienced the age of coat hanger abortions.
I'm better armed than a US infantry squad and outside gunnut forums no one fears Obama or anyone else disarming the US.
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>>684150 >>then why don't they hire a 20 year old fry cook to run their business? if inexperience makes you so good? In exchange for a few years of experience, I'll gladly take a candidate who has more fresh ideas, optimism, and hasn't had time to be completely corrupted by the system.
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>>684254 Hill is panicked cuz she's running out of favors from her political connections.
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>>684248 So if a baby is alive, born, outside the mother.... if that is because the doctor botched the abortion they should kill the crying baby with a hammer? Cause that's precisly what this law is reffering to. It's the Born Alive Infant Protection Act and only 15 people voted against it, one being Obama. Also in a 1996 Questionnaire Obama said his goal was to "Ban the manufacture, sale, and ownership of all guns"
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>>684254 "fresh ideas" what new idea does he have that Hillary doesn't? Extending the right to choose until after live birth or abolition of the second amendment? Maybe it's the Patriot act... oh wait he voted FOR that.
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It's ironic most pro-abortion fanatics are also anti death penalty fanatics. LOL WUT?
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>>684291 it's all about when life begins, apparently this one says it only begins if Your mother wants it too, even after the cord is cut and your breathing on your own outside the womb in a hospital. But what do you expect from a guy whp has to have a political party tell him what he believes because he can't speak for himself. he must not be "well spoken, charismatic, and handsome"
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>>684291 >It's ironic most pro-abortion fanatics are also anti death penalty fanatics. LOL WUT? Yeah, killing innocent people while letting serial killers and child rapists free is something libfucks specialize at.
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>>684291 >It's ironic most pro-abortion fanatics are also anti death penalty fanatics. They're also for euthanasia........but giving the gas chamber to someone who axe-murdered a dozen people is cruel.
Pro-union fanatics are also pro-illegal fanatics that undermine unions.
Pro-free speech fanatics are also pro-censorship of video games, TV, and anything deemed "hate speech."
Gotta love the contradictions of the democratic party.
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>>684287 Having a discussion with other world leaders before we bomb them, for one
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>>684415 I think Hillary might be more qualified for that. She has after all talked to them all befor.
Also that's not a "new idea of change" it was common practice up until Bush bought the election.
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VIVA LA TRIPFAGGOTRY! !OK8FhyWNXk Wed 13 Feb 2008 07:34:00 No. 684498 Report >>684323 >Pro-free speech fanatics are also pro-censorship of video games, TV, and anything deemed "hate speech." Only American Liberals.
>>684498 WUT
why do you think we have TV-MAT, TV-14, and MATURE warnings on music? thanks to republican christfags who just made them more popular.
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>>684498 That is pretty weird. They only support free speech when it's agreeing with them. If you say they are wrong it's "hatespeech" cause you called Rosie O'Donnell a fat moron for her 9/11 rant.
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>>684511 Yeah Cause Music ratings (Tipper Gore) and Video game ratings (Joe Lieberman then democrat) came from Republicans.
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>>684514 >rosie she likes ron paul
>>684516 >TV Parental Guidelines system was first proposed on December 19, 1996 by the Congress i believe republicans were in control of congress that year :)
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>>684523 1 republicans
2 democrat
sorry it's bipartisan and primarily democrats trying to be a nanny-state here.
>>684532 wut? republicans are about "FAMILY VALUES".. of course they would be big on Tv ratings and music ratings for kids. what the fuck are you smoking?
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VIVA LA TRIPFAGGOTRY! !OK8FhyWNXk Wed 13 Feb 2008 07:47:00 No. 684559 Report >>684511 Yes, but that's not trying to ban "hate speech". Sure, you can take something off of television or give something a harsh rating, but that still doesn't really censor it, anyone 18 or older can still buy it if they want it.
I've never heard a Republican or conservative talk about banning something like the Turner Diaries, but I've heard plenty of Liberals talk about how it has influenced loads of crimes and how it should be banned.
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>>684559 yea, that's called censoring.
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Racists all need to vote for Obama since this is a chance to finally shut up all those niggers complaining about slavery. A black man is finally president, what are you all still complaining about?
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>>684542 i was talking about the other 2 things you mentioned. Also it should be clear that democrats have been trying to get on the "family values" ticket too, and without the ability to go pro life or marriage, they go censorship. Censorship is bipartisan. In the 80s and 90s it was almost all democrat but now EVERYONE is told "OMG OUR KIDS WILL SHOOT SKOOLS IF YOU DONT CHANGE THIS" it's assanine but now it's NOTH parties.
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>>684584 i meant BOTH not noth
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>>684584 yea, now republicans are trying to tap into the education ticket as well.
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wtf, how did this thread end up becoming about partisan politics instead of racism? GET BACK IN LINE YOU STUPID FUCKS
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>>684248 It's not about being pro abortion or not moron, it's about him not wanting to give protections to babies that survive an abortion
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he's right. At least in Susquehanna County anyway, I've never traveled further than Montrose so I don't know about the rest of Pa.
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>>685093 Oh snap
You know, it's crazy how quiet the Republicans, especially Karl Rove, are about Obama. It doesn't seem they are too worried in the general election. Sure Obama may lead 0.2% in the polls ATM, but I'm guessing it's all due to the Potomac victories that Obama made, which was widely expected since a lot of black people live there.
We'll see until November.
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>>685116 The Republican Attack Machine will be in full-force by August, "smearing" Obama by bringing up his own past, his own associates, and his own words. The libfag media will go berserk, but the average American voter will understand and vote for John McCain. Obama will be lucky to get 44% of the vote.
Enjoy your Epic Fail, Nigger-worshiping libfags.
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>>685138 BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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>>685165 I'm not BAWing. I know the Nigger is gonna lose. ;-P
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>>685169 BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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>>685138 >>Enjoy your Epic Fail, Nigger-worshiping libfags. >-_- Sounds like bawwing to me oh well not here to pass judgment.
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>>685138 FLASHBACK Feb. 18, 2000 - McCain "I hate the gooks. I will hate them for as long as I live."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2000/02/18/MN32194.DTL Anonymous
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>>685138 >The Republican Attack Machine RAM
Somebody should make a pic out of this
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>>685190 lol @ sfgate
If I was tortured for three years by a certain nation, I would have deep hatred and resentment towards that country for a pretty long time.
Besides, McCain's daughter's best friend is an asian. So I don't see McCain chasing away any "gooks" for that matter.
You really don't know what it's like to be tortured do you? I guess Obama-fags, Obama included, don't know that either.
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>>685190 Statement about his North Vietnamese prison guards, in response to a question asked by reporters aboard his campaign bus. (17 February 2000) He later refused to apologize for using a racial slur, stating: "I was referring to my prison guards, and I will continue to refer to them in language that might offend some people because of the beating and torture of my friends." San Francisco Chronicle (18 February 2000)
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>>685246 >>685249 "The use of a racist slur can't be acceptable for any national leader, regardless of his background," said Diane Chin, executive director of the San Francisco-based Chinese for Affirmative Action. "For someone running for president not to recognize the power of words is a problem."
The horrors of the past cannot be an excuse for hurting people in the present, said Guy Aoki, president of the Media Action Network for Asian Americans, an anti-defamation group.
"If Sen. McCain had been captured by Nigerians, could he call those people `niggers' and think he wasn't going to offend everyone who is black?" Akoi asked. "We can all feel for what he went through, but if that's his level of sensitivity, I'm very disappointed."
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Obama's race has been a bigger asset to him then it's hurt him and you know it.
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>>685258 >"The use of a racist slur can't be acceptable for any national leader, regardless of his background," said Diane Chin, executive director of the San Francisco-based Chinese for Affirmative Action. "For someone running for president not to recognize the power of words is a problem." Again, they are a San Francisco based group. They are most likely to be liberal hot-heads who jump all over any sign of "racism" or "bigotry" when McCain slipped his mouth. I guess that's what happens when you serve for the American public for 30+ years of your life, unlike Obama. Also, a "racial" group does not speak for everybody in the race, the group probably exploits asians more than it does to benefit them.
Shouldn't Obama be getting all kinds of shit when a bunch of his supporters hung up a slain socialist on top of a Cuban flag instead of the American flag?
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>>685286 Speaking as an Asian America in Calif. This is a non-issue.
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>>685294 bullshit
there are no asians in cali, only azns
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>>685302 there are asians in california
they just can't speak english