True mobile TV. Connected cars. Personal robots. The coolest new gadgets and services are still found in the Land of the Rising Sun.
Just a few years ago Japan's lead in all things digital was easy to see. Japanese consumers could buy new domestic gadgets from companies like Sony, Toshiba, and Panasonic, often a year or two before they hit the market in other countries. But now things have changed. With gadgets increasingly coming out at the same time around the world, it's no longer the hardware that makes something cool, but what you can do with it.
Mobile Digital TV
Take OneSeg, Japan's mobile digital TV system. The entire electronics industry, TV broadcasters, and the government all agreed on a single broadcasting standard, eliminating the technical competition that's holding back such services in the United States and Europe.
The result is a popular service that features all the regular terrestrial channels at no cost. Already, 14 million cell phones with the service have been sold, and the sight of people watching TV is becoming more common on trains and in cafes across Japan.
The latest phones also allow you to record TV shows. And if you're in a public space but forgot to bring your headphones, it's no problem. A couple of button presses brings up the subtitles so you can enjoy the show with the volume turned down. In addition, a companion data service provides information about the current show, promotions from the broadcaster, and, often, a link to the TV station's mobile Internet home page.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,142120/article.html
Anonymous
Having seen it first hand, it makes me sigh everytime I see the shit they call cell phones here.
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Same in Korea and Hong Kong In before butthurt yanks.
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Yeah, when I was in Korea I saw one of these in the subway and was shocked. My wife's friend also had a phone about the thickness of 4 quarters.
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>>685392 it makes me sigh everytime I see the shit they call cell phones here.Is it able to make phone calls? BAM, you just made a product 95+% of the market is looking for. No one really care about your kawaii desu pokemons.
Japs are interesting with the technopenis substitutes though. Also, the working till 10pm at jobs to give the illusion of success when they simply sit at their cubicles doing absolutely nothing.
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let the Japanese work out the kinks
Anonymous
Before all the weeaboos piss their pants, it's important to note that whilst such results are desirable, the underlying political and economic structures that are responsible for it are defeinitely not. Japan and South Korea are ultra-corporatist states that make business and government in western countries look like utter strangers.
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>>685379 I hope japan enjoys their blindness.
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>>685429 >>ultra-corporatist states that make business and government in western countries look like utter strangers And what exactly is wrong with that? look how well they turned out while we sit in our own fail.
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>>685433 You have no idea what you're wishing for, wap.
†Invisible Sky Magician† FUCK GOD. What are ya gonna do about it, bitch?. !!I9XpXfP4okU
†Invisible Sky Magician† FUCK GOD. What are ya gonna do about it, bitch?. !!I9XpXfP4okU Wed 13 Feb 2008 11:36:00 No. 685446 Report Quoted By:
Yet another case of Japan being superior.
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in during crying yanks Korea and Japan = superior.
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>>685433 Uh, have you noticed Japan's economy lately? Things aren't going so well.
In Japan, your life goes like this, from the start of high school: Study your ASS off to get into a good college, because that's the only way to do well. Entrance exams are killer and society is VERY demanding. I have a friend whose girlfriend (whom is a Japanese exchange student, every weeaboo's dream come true) got into the 5th best University in Japan. Her parents consider her a failure, because they went to the #1 school. In college, relax, life is easy, you are more free to interact with girls, this is where you will have most of your fun. After college you are recruited by a company who has a deal with the college (send so many graduates our way), you live in dorm-like apartments owned by the company, and are encouraged to spend your free hours socializing with your coworkers. When you marry, you generally buy a house with the guidance of your company. Work hours are long and difficult.
>>685501 So? That's perfectly normal in every urban part of Asia. Americans act like they're afraid of it or something.
sage for retards who've never been to Asia talking out of their ass
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>>685501 Bitches don't understand my different cultures
>>685580 So? That's perfectly normalCORPORATE STATIST DYSTOPIA??? FUCK YEAH!!!
Anonymous
>>685624 Your bleeding-heart is showing.
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>>685580 Uh, I didn't say it wasn't normal in Asia. In fact I said it was normal in Japan, and I would not want it to be normal here.
Anonymous
>>685632 You've been trained well. Yes, serving your corporate master in slave labor 18 hours a day should be the goal of any model citizen.
Anonymous
>>685501 This same shit exists in America. But this is 4chan and we are experts on everything, so this must be how everyones life in Japan is.
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>>685661 i was a weeaboo, I took two years of Japanese, lived in a dorm for foreign language students, talked to a good number of Japanese people. That's what they all lead me to believe was the standard process. And America isn't like that. Colleges and corporations don't decide where you go, you don't live in corporate dormitories and socialize only with your coworkers, don't live in corporate neighborhoods.
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>>685708 Yeah, cause learning about Japan = learning about anime. Right. Anime is the ONLY reason one could be interested in Japan and Japanese.
Anonymous
LOL @ fuckwits thinking Jap society is a model for anyone
Anonymous
>>685724 But why wouldn't it be?
They have a strong sense of discipline and ethics, aren't obsessed with PC bullshit and aren't afraid of exploring their children potentials, unlike in some places were children are treated as mentally disabled impotent sacks of shit.
Anonymous
>>685724 Asian society trumps american bullshit anyday. Prove me wrong, yank.
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>>686245 They also have massive fighting robots, and creepy white people are treated like demi-gods, shit's HARDCORE
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>>686268 Wow. Just wow.
I lol'd.
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>>686252 Only in Japan, Korea, Singapore, HK and Taiwan, go to South East Asia and you'll find shitholes
Anonymous
LEVEL 70 DPS PALLY
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>>686245 children ARE mentally disabled impotent sacks of shit.
prove me wrong
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>>685654 Slave labor in Japan: a median income of well over $30,000 a year and 5 weeks mandatory vacation (in relation to 0 in the US)
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>>686245 >>But why wouldn't it be? They have a strong sense of discipline and ethics
HAHAHAHA did I read that right? Japs ethical? BAHAHAHAHA I guess im in teh wrong dimenshun.
>>685624 Weeaboos don't understand big words like that.
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>>686379 >>686375 Same person
Japan and all modern Asian countries have a strong work ethic, something americans can't hope to understand.
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>>686388 >Same person No you weeaboo fag, you're just delusional. If you're on 4chan, you're hardly one to be calling Japan a model society when you would be expected to commit suicide if you failed to get into one of the top 10 colleges
Anonymous
>>686392 >>686379 >>686375 Same person.
Admit it, Asians do everything better. That kind of competition is precisely why we're more intelligent and superior in just about every way.
Anonymous
>>686395 >we're superior Rofl. The irony is I'm asian (not Japanese though), and I don't believe asians are superior by default. Who cares if the Japanese have a stronger work ethic? I'm going to have a better quality of life. I won't come home from work wanting to kill myself every day, and I'm not going to have a kid who hates and resents me for pressuring him into being perfect and then ends up hanging himself or jumping infront of a train.
Keep your fucked up society.
Anonymous
>>686402 I don't think you're Asian at all. If you were a real Asian who's lived in Asia you'd know that sort of competition is no different in S. Korea, Taiwan, HK, Singapore, or urban Chinese cities. Or are you just bashing Japan because you're some kind of nationalist?
Anonymous
>>686407 I'm an asian living in America. People migrate for a reason, China and Japan are the same: if you don't get into one of the top 5-10 best colleges, you're doomed to a shitty service industry job for the rest of your life, living in a crappy place with very little prospects.
And for all their diligence, what do they have to show for it? The U.S. and Europe are still on top. Japan is only declining, and China has a lot of issues to worry about besides their economy. Certainly not model societies for anyone.
Anonymous
>>686402 Haha oh wow
Don't pretend to be asian when all you know about asia are stereotypes
japan is much more laid back than the other modern asian countries because of their wealth and decadence
that's why their skill sector keeps slipping while korea keeps rising
and we ALL have strong work ethics, damn proud of it too, you piece of wannabe shit
Anonymous
>>686418 Immigrant, figures.
Come back when you know what you're talking about.
Anonymous
>>686419 Explain why everyone wants to be in the West, then.
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>>686419 >>686423 >BAWWWWWWWW MY WEEABOO DREAMS OF SEEING JAPAN ARE NEVER GOING TO COME TO FRUITION. Almost had me believing you were Japanese. For a second.
†Invisible Sky Magician† FUCK GOD. What are ya gonna do about it, bitch?. !!I9XpXfP4okU
†Invisible Sky Magician† FUCK GOD. What are ya gonna do about it, bitch?. !!I9XpXfP4okU Wed 13 Feb 2008 20:34:00 No. 686433 Report >>686423 >Immigrant, figures. Agreed.
Asking an an American-born Japanese or Chinese about his opinions of Japan or China is like asking Mr Durhur Hickbilly Bucktooth (occupation: redneck) about his opinion of Japan or China: They're both as ignorant as each other.
Japan = Superior anyway, because they have anime, manga and hentai. What does America have? Lazy fucks and Disney.
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>>686433 Anime, generally speaking = epic fail
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>>686432 Contrary to what deluded Westerners think, Japanese only account for a small number of Asians, few of which speak enough English to point out that you're gigantic retard talking out of his ass.
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>>686392 >>686379 >>686375 >>686395 Same person.
Admit it, Africans do everything better. That kind of competition is precisely why we're more intelligent and superior in just about every way. And we have bigger penises.
Anonymous
>People migrate for a reason, China and Japan are the same: if you don't get into one of the top 5-10 best colleges, you're doomed to a shitty service industry job for the rest of your life, living in a crappy place with very little prospects. Very true, the guy my father did his post-doc with said he didn't get into Beijing U or QingHua (the two elite schools in China), so he automatically knew he had very little chance for success. He applied to grad schools in the U.S. and UC Berkeley gave him a fellowship payment and he's much better off now than he would be if he stayed in China.
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>>686429 True, millions of Westerners desperately seeking a new life in Asia.
/sarc
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>>686395 Hmm, strange, because the nobel prize winners last year did not go to one of the top ten universities. Perhaps ingenuity is just as important as technical skill?
Anonymous
>>686443 Chinese universities are made of plaigarism and fail.
Anonymous
>>686418 you know as much about asia as the next white scum, which i suspect you really are
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>>686433 No one cares what you say, because you're an immigrant who lives in Ausfailia. You trying to tell ANYONE ANYTHING is like a paraplegic trying out for the NBA
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What is this shit? Whitewashed immigrants or americans trying to take advantage of Asian tensions? Get bent you fags, just because we don't like each other doesn't mean we'll put up with your garbage
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In after stereotypes, trolls and faggotry. Each country has its own culture, so gb2 real life and stop caring what 4chan thinks about your shithole.
Anonymous
>>686448 You weeaboo's are a riot. You bash others for their assertions being based off "stereotypes" when that's the crux of your argument.
You're like, totally kawaii dude.
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>>686455 WHITE WEABOO DETECTED
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>>686447 HERRO CHINA COPY EVERYTHING NEW EMPIRE
ITT none of you are Asian The rest of the world can think what they want, real Asians ignore these moronic arguments which I think I'll do right now.
Anonymous
>>686482 >real weeaboos like me go cry in a corner and cling to their blowup anime dolls Anonymous
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>>686482 Anonymous knows everything about you!
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>>686482 Again, WEABOO DETECTED
Sonymaster !!NGhXKEhOalY
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>>686482 lol, butthurt kkkorean
Anonymous
>>686460 yeah because every asian is a jap and the only country in asia is japan
just admit you don't know shit about asia except animu and cartoon porn
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>>686482 No matter how much anime you watch, it doesn't change anything. Srsly desu.
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Kurdish Superior
>>686482 Prove me wrong etc.
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>>686511 OMG AN ACTUAL ASIAN
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This entire thread is made of dicks
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>>686485 >>686488 >>686492 >>686493 >>686495 Same person, at least wait a while before you repost
Asians can't be weeaboo, and even if I were I'd be proud of it. Seriously, do you expect me to watch western media over Asian ones? Even if it's jap stuff i'd hold out until my country gets its own pop media
you may resume pretending asia is like anime, however, i'll live in reality
Kurdish Superior
>>686516 I'm certainly not European, but that doesn't exclude the fact that I'm a weeaboo anyways.
>>686522 4/10. Fooled some people in this thread, but pretty bad overall trolling form. Tips: Talking in American syntactic structure is a dead give away.
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>>686527 But pretty much everyone on /n/ is an Amerikkkan anyways
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>>686525 Weeaboos are white
>>686527 Asians become easily fluent in other languages, the same could not be said of any other race
Anonymous
>>686532 LOLWUT
Try going to Korea and teaching in a hagwon - most kids there who've been studying for years can barely say "My name is Seong-min"
Anonymous
685400 here I see the butthurt has blown full-scale as yanks try to divert attention away from Japan's obviously superior technology
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>>686539 LOL NEEDS MORE WEABOO
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>>686527 Don't be stupid. Anyone who spends enough time on the boards would eventually end up writing like that.
Anonymous
>>686538 Yeah, but Asian immigrants, particularly Chinese immigrants are much more fluent than other immigrants moving to other countries
Kurdish Superior
>>686532 How do you explain wapanese spics and nigras then?
Either way, normal people don't shout LOL ASIANS at Iranians anyways, there are even people at my school that think Iraq and Iran is inside of Europa.
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>>686542 Meh, I give them that for their tech
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>>686548 Normal people don't know that Iran is in the Mideast?
LOL
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>>686527 "American" is not a language
British English = real English.
†Invisible Sky Magician† FUCK GOD. What are ya gonna do about it, bitch?. !!I9XpXfP4okU
†Invisible Sky Magician† FUCK GOD. What are ya gonna do about it, bitch?. !!I9XpXfP4okU Wed 13 Feb 2008 21:00:00 No. 686560 Report Quoted By:
>>686542 >LOL NEEDS MORE WEABOO NEEDS MORE "E".
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>>686548 An Iranian? In my /n/?
Kurdish Superior
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Kurdish Superior
To quote my earlier statements - Kurdish Superior Wed 13 Feb 2008 21:02:00 No. 686571 Report Quoted By:
>>686566 Ehem...
''I piss on Mohammed's grave, and use the Kor'an for toilet paper''
Anonymous
>>686402 Oh? Say something in Chinese or Korean then
And none of that viet/thai bullshit, that doesn't count.
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>>686573 知之者不如好之者,好之者不如楽之者
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>>686581 no idioms, those can be googled
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>>686583 You couldn't even read two words weeaboo, stop pretending like the burden is on others to prove themselves. You're no more japanese than I am, and I'm mexican. That should say alot
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>>686588 Anything can be Googled, luddite, ever heard of Google Translate?!
FFS
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>>686594 >>686596 same person scared now because they can't prove it
i didnt say prove you were a jap, if that's what you thought then you picked the wrong language on the translator site
Super Nazi Chink !3GqYIJ3Obs
How about this revolutionary idea: Asians and white people are BOTH superior. If you look at nations and groups of people that carry the world it is overwhelmingly white or East Asian. Granted, white people are known inventiveness and orientals are known for their piecewise innovations, but those are both positive traits that complement each other very well (whites invent and East Asians improve upon those inventions). In American, whites and Asians get along very well. Perhaps better than any other two races, at least we aren't hostile towards each other. We both have lower crime rates, higher standards of living, we both go to the same churches, same workplaces, same schools, same voting demographics, etc. I'm ending this fucking discussion once and for all. There are no two other races more deserving and respectable than whites and East Asians. Our similarities trump our differences. We should be working together, not against each other.
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>>686596 That's the point. We'll know if your sentence is machine translated or genuine. A few words mean nothing.
>>686602 LOL you can't even tell the difference between simplified Chinese and japanese and you're bAWWWWINNG for others to prove their asian.
Gb2/cartoon network/ otaku fag
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>>686546 Strange, considering how proud Europeans are of their bilingual education.
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>>686610 HAHAHA OH WOW
GOT YOU IDIOT
NEITHER OF THOSE ARE SIMPLIFIED CHINESE
IDIOT PROBABLY PRESSED TRADITIONAL BY ACCIDENT
Sorry whitefag, you've been talking out of your ass and now it shows for all to see.
Kurdish Superior
>>686606 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesopotamia#Science_and_Technology The Non-arabian, non-white people from the Middle east wants to have a talk with you.
Anonymous
>>686631 Could be a Taiwanese Asian, but the fact that he didn't know raises one's doubts.
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>>686639 A Taiwanese would've definitely known. The guy was just posing as an Asian for the sake of argument. Fucking fail.
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>>686637 He's right you know. Independent development of written language, etc. It's been a loooong time since durkas were cool, but they were once.
>>686643 >Just posing as an asian for the sake of argument u mean EVERYONE in this FUCKING thread?
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>>686653 They weren't Durkas.
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>>686656 >>686649 BAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW THEY FOUND OUT BAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWSorry, too late. I've got no interest in talking about Asia with someone who doesn't know shit and pretends to be Asian
Game over, faggot. /thread
Kurdish Superior
>>686653 http://youtube.com/watch?v=pPsCC_Xhw7Y Peace, no conflicts, liberal politics, ultimate freedom, pro-american sentiment.
Can we be cool now, please?
Super Nazi Chink !3GqYIJ3Obs
>>686637 We're talking about TODAY. Modern era, not 7th century BC. You realize I never once brought up ancient and imperial China. If it did I would certainly have a lot to say that didn't have anything to do with the discussion.
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>>686670 What is so impressive about the modern-day PRC???
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>>686670 See
>>686667 In contradiction with popular beliefs, we are not Arabs, and we are as successful as eastern asians and whites.
Kurdish Superior
>>686678 nothing at all, but the people itself, and it's immigrants are successful.
Anonymous
>>686678 The PRC is not the only Asian country. Hopefully, tripfag up there isn't a nationalist and recognizes other Asians... but his name would lead me to believe otherwise.
Kurdish Superior
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O NOEZ MODS ARE SAGING THIS POST
Super Nazi Chink !3GqYIJ3Obs
>>686689 I was talking about all East Asians. That was what the discussion is about.
>>686684 Exactly. My experiences with my fellow Chinese people have been mostly in America. While the PRC have issues today, it is certainly going in a direction of modernity and progress.
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>>686707 LOLWUT
In 10 years, the PLA will cross the straits and take Taiwan, or judging by the weakness of Taiwanese politicians, won't even have to. The Chinese will keep stealing American technology and in 30 years or so will spread tyranny throughout Asia. People need to stup being f*cking hippies and smell the coffee.
Super Nazi Chink !3GqYIJ3Obs
>>686722 The difference between your argument and mine, is that I base mine off of China in the past twenty years or so. Asian nations at this point in development aren't revolutionary, they become status quo powers. China's main goal is to lock up resources to feed growing economy. That's why they are in Africa and S. America.
You base your arguments off of a Clancy novel.
Anonymous
>>686744 At this point in development? The difference between China and Japan/South Korea is that it is still a statist and totalitarian country unlike either South Korea or Japan at any point in their post-war development. China has done its' best over the last 40 years to destroy Western influence across the world (giving weapons to ZANU-PF, invading Korea etc.) and is determined to displace the West in Asia.
Wake up, libfag.
†Invisible Sky Magician† FUCK GOD. What are ya gonna do about it, bitch?. !!I9XpXfP4okU
†Invisible Sky Magician† FUCK GOD. What are ya gonna do about it, bitch?. !!I9XpXfP4okU Wed 13 Feb 2008 21:54:00 No. 686766 Report China's downfall is will just as quick as its rise.
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>>686766 True, demographic decline will set in just like it did in Japan in the mid-80s, they'll have to put all their money into paying for old folks just like the eurofags.
Super Nazi Chink !3GqYIJ3Obs
>>686757 S. Korea was a military dictatorship until the 80's. Taiwan didn't have free elections until 1996. People have been saying that China's gonna blitzkrieg across Asia since the 80's, until I see definitive proof that they are I'm not going to make a premature judgment.
Me, a libfag? You obviously never seen my other posts.
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>>686791 Dictatorships, yes. But not totalitarian in the sense of actually trying to control every single aspect of society. In Taiwan and SK, if you didn't cause trouble, you were OK. Whereas in the PRC, the government expects business, the media, all social organisations and individuals to accept the government agenda 100%. That's the difference.
Super Nazi Chink !3GqYIJ3Obs
>>686803 That doesn't change the fact China HASN'T launched a full scale invasion of the world. Everything they've done, every policy they've made has been to keep their economy going. Basically lay low, buy tons of resources all over the world, and keep the world's biggest manufacturing sector up and running. Why would they attack a world order that they benefit from so well?
It's stupid to cry wolf at this point. I'd rather focus on the real threat the Jihadists. They're the ones that actually attacked us and repeatedly said they wanted to kill us.
Anonymous
>>686791 Taiwan didn't have free elections until 1996.What? I'm Taiwanese and that's not true
Although politics is so fucked up back home democracy hardly even matters anymore
Anonymous
>>686858 Yeah, but the commies are sneaky like that, unlike the durkas.
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>>686859 True, I think it was since the late 80's or early 90s that the KMT started allowing competition.
Super Nazi Chink !3GqYIJ3Obs
>>686861 I don't believe there is anything wrong with American policy towards China at this point. It all comes down to this: do I trust the wisdom of what a handful of people say in this thread? Or do I trust the wisdom of every U.S. president since Nixon?
Anonymous
>>686928 But dude, US business is now totally beholden to Beijing, which, through the American Chamber of Commerce in China, puts pressure on Washington to implement policies not in the interest of the US. No government today can propose a harsher stance towards the PRC without raep from "American" MNCs.
Super Nazi Chink !3GqYIJ3Obs
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>>686952 But wait, I thought Zionists run Washington? WTF IS THIS.
Keep your tin foil hat on.
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>>686858 Oh c'mon, SNC
You know China takes every chance to expand it's own influence, ideals, opinions and so forth onto the world. You're doing it right now, so is just about every immigrant I've met. Now there's nothing wrong with that, but you can't blame us for wanting to stay on top.
Super Nazi Chink !3GqYIJ3Obs
>>686990 But that's the thing. America's not going to decline, it's not going to collapse tomorrow, next week, a year, or even a century from now. Forget what the libtards and America-haters tell you. Sure, America has problems, it always had issues and problems in the past. But it has always manage to overcome those problems and be stronger as a result.
Ever since I started here on /n/, I have never said anything negative about America. Not even once. I challenge you to find anything I've written about America (or the West) that wasn't respectful. In fact, my first post in this thread was about reconciliation between Far East and West.
But China is not responsible for America's problems, and America cannot solve their problems by blaming China. It's easy to vilify China but the American economy is five times its size. I love America, I was born and raised here, I share the same concerns as my neighbors, but at least I put things in perspective.
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>>687033 America-haterssage