Sen. Barack Obama (D.-Ill.) portrays himself as a thoughtful Democrat who carefully considers both sides of controversial issues, but his radical stance on abortion puts him further left on that issue than even NARAL Pro-Choice America.
In 2002, as an Illinois legislator, Obama voted against the Induced Infant Liability Act, which would have protected babies that survived late-term abortions. That same year a similar federal law, the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, was signed by President Bush. Only 15 members of the U.S. House opposed it, and it passed the Senate unanimously on a voice vote.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=18647
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steam-cells are good.
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>>693080 So? These are cold hard facts, look it up if you wish.
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>>693084 So? Shut the fuck up steam-cells are good.
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* Stem cells hold promise to cure 70 major diseases. (Aug 2007) * Trust women to make own decisions on partial-birth abortion. (Apr 2007) * Extend presumption of good faith to abortion protesters. (Oct 2006) * Constitution is a living document; no strict constructionism. (Oct 2006) * Pass the Stem Cell Research Bill. (Jun 2004) * Protect a woman's right to choose. (May 2004) * Supports Roe v. Wade. (Jul 1998) * Voted YES on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Apr 2007) * Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006) * Voted YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005) sage thread.
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>>693096 Butthurt Obama-fag
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how would you know the baby was born alive? Are they going to start sticking cameras in every abortion room? Maybe they can network them and let the public monitor for violations?
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>>BWAAAAAAAAAW!! OBAMA DIDN'T SUPPORT OUR LAW DESIGNED TO BE A BACKDOOR TO BANNING ABORTION!!! HE'S A FAR-LEFT FANATIC!!!!!!
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>>693098 LOL, WUT SHUT THE FUCK UP STEAM CELLS ARE GOOD OVER ASSUMING FAGGOT.
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>Obama voted against the Induced Infant Liability Act, which would have protected babies that survived late-term abortions. So basically Obama voted for killing babies. Have you faggots ever heard about adoption?
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>>693070 Your point being? If you think the Republicans want to stop abortion you're kidding yourself. The #1 trolled vote is that of the pro-lifer. It's a lost cause; people kill their babies and it's tolerated. This is the reality of the ethical and moral decay in industrialized nations. Bush had 6 years with a Republican mandate in Congress and the Supreme Court to do something about abortion, and what did they accomplish? Not a goddamned thing.
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"After Roe v. Wade, the 1973 case in which the U.S. Supreme Court declared a constitutional right to privacy in reproductive decisions including abortion, it changed its name to National Abortion Rights Action League, then to National Abortion & Reproductive Rights Action League, and finally dropped the long form entirely." "In an ad targeting U.S. Supreme Court nominee John Roberts, NARAL claimed that while U.S. Deputy Solicitor-General, Roberts supported "violent fringe groups and a convicted clinic bomber." While Roberts did argue before the Supreme Court that a 19th-century statute directed against the Ku Klux Klan did not apply to those protesting outside abortion clinics, the case in question occurred almost seven years before the bombing pictured in the ad and was unrelated to clinic bombings.[2] The ad was retracted under pressure from other pro-choice groups as undercutting the credibility of the abortion rights cause.">Supreme Court that a 19th-century statute directed against the Ku Klux Klan hahaha, stormfront is butthurt
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>>693111 babies dont have souls nor personalities. nothing of value was lost. now diaf christfag
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>>693111 No, he voted against a pointless, redundant law that would have banned something no one is doing anyway and then been used as a wedge to try and get more restrictive anti-abortion laws passed.
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"Obama voted against the Induced Infant Liability Act, which would have protected babies that survived late-term abortions" What's that? 3 per year and those are probably already horrifically retarded. Let the Rev. Billybob and his congregation adopt them if it's so damned important.
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Liberals and Feminists: We're sensitive and caring, but when it comes to killing babies we've got a blind spot. It's just too damned convenient. We call them fetuses so we can pretend we're not killing a baby.
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>>693115 >Supreme Court to do something about abortion, and what did they accomplish? How often do you think the Supreme Court changes? Fucking idiot.
During the McCain administration, we will most likely see a reversal on Roe v. Wade. Since many of the old liberal fucks on the bench are about to croak over. They'll only be replaced by strict constructionist judges, and THEN Roe v. Wade will be overturned.
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>>693125 LOL, BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Those aren't live born babies that survive late term abortions. Those are fetuses. They cannot develop into full-fledged babies after they "survive" a late term abortion. I'm sorry, but at that point they might as well be used for stem-cell research. ... either way, unborn babies are not considered citizens until birth. they are not protected.
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till men master child bearing women have rights over their own bodies.
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>>693131 >... either way, unborn babies are not considered citizens until birth. they are not protected. I guess premature babies should be harvested and disposed of as well?
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>>693128 > During the Bush administration, we will most likely see a reversal on Roe v. Wade. Fixed.
You're calling ME an idiot, while you are falling for and espousing the exact same rhetoric that got Bush the pro-life vote in 2000. Only the name and face of the candidate has changed. Oh, and last I checked, Bush already appointed 2 "strict constructionists" to the bench during his term.
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>>693141 >They cannot develop into full-fledged babies after they "survive" a late term abortion. Anonymous
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>>693133 Don't feed the Feminazi's.
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With far-left positions like these, how the fuck does Obama think he's going to court the independents and Republicans?
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>>693209 man you need to get out more
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>>693218 >man I need to get out more fix'd
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>>693209 When he's running against pro-amnesty McCain who voted against the Bush tax-cuts, the conservative vote is up in the air. At least Obama is consistent in his positions.
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Lulz all around for this thread. Initial lulz at dead babies, because that's just funny. More lulz for partial-birth abortions are a fallacy and RARELY occured even before they were OUTLAWED in 2003. Even more lulz for thinking anyone gives a shit about fetuses. '00 - '06 was the most conservative government we've had in 5 decades. a vice grip on all three branches. was roe v wade tested at all? Finally, lulz for dead babies. that's just fun for everyone, right?
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Protip: Jews and Muslims support early term abortion. Evangelicalfags are universally against it because they worship Gun-Totin'-Faggot-Hatin'-SUV-Drivin' Americkan Jeesus instead of Ancient hippy pre-sand nigger peacenik Jesus.
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PROTIP: The game of the national RNC on abortion is not to restrict it, but instead to continue the status quo while still courting the substantial single-issue pro-life vote with scraps and rhetoric. This running joke is on the pro-lifers who blindly vote Republican. If you haven't figured this out after Bush and support McCain in vain, you're a fool.
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>>693232 More lulz for partial-birth abortions are a fallacy and RARELY occured even before they were OUTLAWED in 2003Dude, they are destroying the world with those devil's abortions! We must act now on this minor and victimless issue that just happens to further a christian agenda.
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In Russia until recently, abortion was the primary method of birth control. Putin has been cracking down on abortion (mainly through shame so far) as a way of increasing the birth rate, since Russia is becoming massively underpopulated.
I posted this a few days ago. Don't waste your breath OP, these liberals/trolls-pretending-to-be-liberals are so fanatic that they won't get passed the word abortion and start spitting their shitty old "arguments" like "It's the woman's body" or "It's her choice". Don't expect this emasculated morons to READ WHAT THE ACT WAS ABOUT or, God forgive, question Obama. Fucking retards.
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>>693293 I swear that fucking bitch is hot
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Pro-lifers are the most fucking idiotic people on the planet.
>>693316 see
>>693096 >>693131 but pepe's a mexican.. fucking catholics can blow me. they've already bowed down to letting divorce slide; next up, homosexuality.
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>>693324 >Anti-lifers are the most fucking idiotic people on the planet. fix'd
>>693128 >During the McCain administration, we will most likely see a reversal on Roe v. Wade. Since many of the old liberal fucks on the bench are about to croak over. They'll only be replaced by strict constructionist judges, and THEN Roe v. Wade will be overturned. If this is true, I'm going to devote my life to making sure he wins.
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>>693317 Seriously. Unfortunately, picture is her 4 years later.
Russian beauty has a short half-life.
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>>693341 coming from a mexican, that's not saying much.
>>693338 pro-life, and pro-iraq war (let alone, war).. does this make sense? sure, vote for mccain, hypocrites!
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>>693338 Anti-Lifer? That is the most awesome name for an ideology ever. How do I join? What do I have to advocate for? Who do I have to kill?
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>>693333 You think that's going to change my mind? God you liberals are pathetic.
BTW I'm an atheist. The world isn't black and white moron.
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>>693354 >BTW I'm an atheist. The world isn't black and white moron. wut
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>>693357 He assumed that just because I'm a Mexican against abortion I must be a Catholic. he was wrong.
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>>693354 > The world isn't black and white moron. Isn't atheism a pretty binary ideology?
I don't think you're the real Pepe. The real Pepe was funny, smart, and not so uptight.
>>693362 you'll vote a man who wants to continue the iraq war and reverse roe vs wade? wow, i thought atheists were rationalist, but then again, you're a mexican
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>>693338 Yeah, that was clever and all, but no matter what you dumbfuck pro-lifers do, abortion will always exist for those who want one. Even if Roe v. Wade gets overturned, it will be the states decision of whether or not abortion will be legal. So keep wasting your time trying to "abolish" abortion. Truth be told, it will never happen.
As if a fetus is even worth all that. Give me a fucking break.
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>>693365 It just means I don't believe in man-made myths. I can still have my own morality and values.
>>693367 Spoiler: Obama or Clinton will continue Iraq as well. Pulling out like they want to is not practical, so either they stay or pull out just so the next guy is forced to go back.
>>693374 >Spoiler: Obama or Clinton will continue Iraq as well. Pulling out like they want to is not practical, so either they stay or pull out just so the next guy is forced to go back. bulllllllshit. keep watching fox news, mr rational thinking mexican.
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>>693374 > Obama or Clinton will continue Iraq as well. That'd be the mother of all broken campaign promises, don't you think?
Every president wants a second term. How could you possibly convince the grass-roots Democrats to vote for someone elected to get us out of Iraq, who keeps us there?
Whatever rational arguments you may think you have, aren't they trumped by political pragmatism?
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>>693365 holy shit awesome thank you for reminding me of how i want to fuck stephanie SO MUCH. i think that if i could just get within 60' of her, i'd probably just rip my dick right off without hesitation and just fucking peg it at her
Pepe !!NGfhw4CpPQj
>>693380 >>693394 Well if they do that they're going to create a mess and won't get a second term either way.
>>693439 >they're going to create a mess it's already a mess.... this will not be won militarily.
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>>693439 You're really not cutting it as Pepe. Change your name to Pepe's Doppleganger.
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>>693632 BAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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Pepe is not really atheist. He just thinks it is cool to be. I am pro-Choice, but third trimester abortions are sick. If a woman can not decide she is not ready for a child until her third trimester, the bitch should be shot.
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>>693450 Leaving abruptly will lead to chaos and maybe even civil war, and you'll have to go back.
McCain knows it, you can't just leave, and you don't like him because he's the only one with the guts to tell the truth and be realistic.
>>693636 >Pepe is not really atheist. He just thinks it is cool to be. I don't believe in God, the rest doesn't matter, I'm still an atheist.
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>>693652 I thought Obama had Pepe's endorsement.
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>>693652 you probably believe in astrology and psychics you dumb mexican cunt.
why cant you see that the babies are just atoms and it doesnt matter. nothing matters.
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>The game of the national RNC on abortion is not to restrict it There'd be at least one more illegitimate mongoloid Bush if it were.
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>>693656 I changed my mind. I was wrong.
>>693662 >nothing matters. Emo fag
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>>693070 OMG so he is not a Muslim!
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>>693244 Washington Times is teh print version of Faux News.
OK let's see, in Amierikkka...: Abortion is murder. Death penalty, wars and easily accessible weapons is AWWWWWWRIGHT!! I mean what the hell? Can someone explain this to me? I also think we should ban male masturbation. Sperms are obviously alive and should be treated as such. They don't deserve to die in a sock or a blow-up sheep, that's fucking barbaric! Remember guys, every time you fap you're starting another holocaust, murdering millions of innocent possible babies. You sick fucks.
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>>694547 Difference is, they don't feel pain.
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>>694551 Prove to me that fetuses feel pain and sperms don't.
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OH NO THINK OF THE BABIES STOP KILLING MY BABIEWS
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>>694571 who would want to reproduce with 4channer?
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>>They don't deserve to die in [...] a blow-up sheep, that's fucking barbaric! It is barbaric. Those fucking furries...
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Good news for me, abortion is my hobby
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>>694585 Like in that Shitaro Kago manga?
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>>694463 Yes he is. When he took the oath to Congress he used the Quran but disguised it as the Bible.
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>>694609 Finally someone who isn't a complete moron.
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I don't get how Obama thinks he's going to win over the moderates and Republicans if he's even further to the left than Hillay Clinton. Oh well, doesn't matter who gets the Democrat nomination, they'll both lose to McCain.
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>>694843 >I don't get how Obama thinks he's going to win over the moderates and Republicans if he's even further to the left than Hillay Clinton. Clinton? He's further to the left than Castro! He even has his endorsment!
>>694859 >he he? you mean she... bill was rather conservative.
>>694843 >Oh well, doesn't matter who gets the Democrat nomination, they'll both lose to McCain. yea, we'll see about that.
Oh look it's the issue that is so fucking pointless and retarded that is brought up during elections for some reason. So uh hey guys, about that deficit? No fuck it, we first gotta stop abortions.
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>>694872 I was talking about Obama
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How can he call himself a Muslim and support abortion? What do the Muslim leaders think about that?
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>>694547 >OK let's see, in Amierikkka...: >Abortion is murder. >Death penalty, wars and easily accessible weapons is AWWWWWWRIGHT!! Yes, because killing someone who straps bombs to retarded people to kill in the name of Allah or someone who butchers his psychologist with a meat cleaver is THE EXACT SAME as killing an innocent baby. Only in your deluded libfag brain.
>I also think we should ban male masturbation. Sperms are obviously alive and should be treated as such. They don't deserve to die in a sock or a blow-up sheep, that's fucking barbaric! Remember guys, every time you fap you're starting another holocaust, murdering millions of innocent possible babies. You sick fucks. Sperm will die regardless of whether it remains in the testes or is ejaculated. Masturbating doesn't kill sperm, it merely expels them from the body. They die of "old age" (having a life span of a couple days).
Delicious libfag tears.
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>>695363 He's an apostate. Real Muslims would think he deserves the death penalty for that. Do you want to elect a guy that the Muslim world wants dead?
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>>694915 QFT NEEDS MOAR REAL NEWS
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>>695383 wow I hadn't thought about that. Good point.
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>>695383 Fuck yeah. Awesome. A murtad for president.
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Here's a hint: ALL THE CANDIDATES WOULD BE WANTED DEAD BY THE MUSLIM WORLD!
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>>695421 But he's an apostate.
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>>695380 Baby. . . Yeah. Try fetus.
Obviously the better option is to let all fetuses develop and let all children be born, wanted or not! That would certainly make for a better society!
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>an innocent baby. More like a neutral fetus with emotions and moral compass attached to it by magical sky-pixie believers.
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Pro-Lifers are so easily trolled. Roe v. Wade will not be overturned, it's just a campaign to get the Pro-Life vote. Not even if we have McCain for 8 years and then Jeb Bush the 8 years after that, and all the old justices croak and get replaced with new 'conservative' ones.
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>>695434 >Roe v. Wade will not be overturned Oh yeah? We'll see!
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>>695569 Pepe, you are so dumb.