"Obama, doesn't he sound a little naive?" asked Huenke, 52. "He stands up there, so optimistic, preaching about hope and change. It sounds great and everything, but come on. He doesn't quite get it."
Voters like Huenke present a difficult challenge to Sen. Barack Obama as he looks ahead to March 4, when primary battles with Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton in Ohio and Texas threaten to halt his campaign's momentum. In Lima and other fading manufacturing towns, he must confront difficult questions that go to the heart of his candidacy and its appeal to a broad section of Americans:
Can grandiose visions of hope and change resonate in places where change -- in this case economic change -- has brought housing foreclosures and economic ruin, where hope means avoiding another round of layoffs? Can a candidate whose support has been based on African Americans and upper-middle-class whites transcend class and race in places where racial tension still colors everything?
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hey look.. it's a IRL /n/ troll.
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"I promice you this, that, and the other thing. Change change change. Yakkity kakkity, bla-bla."
>>701416 ... that's every candidate.
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>>701416 What the fuck do you expect? "I promise hard times, thin wallets, and fucking zero gasoline for everyone!"
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>>701424 Is a little bit of actual thought-through policy too much to ask?
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>>701418 >>701424 >>701430 And this is acceptable?
FOOLS.
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>>701439 no... but i don't see his logic when this applies to everyone that runs...
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>>701442 Because you accept zero accountability as a presidential right. That's what you're responsible for.
EVERYONE is accountable for their actions. I'm an alcoholic, so I surrendered my drivers license. That's what responsibility is. I may not ever be able to quit drinking. God won't help me, and neither will AA, so I made the personal change that minimizes the damage I can do. Now, at worst, I'm an embarrassment.
I made the correct decision.
>>701463 >God won't help me, and neither will AA, so I made the personal change that minimizes the damage I can do. Now, at worst, I'm an embarrassment. tell me... o God fearing man.. what are you doing on a pedo site?
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>>701465 Same as you. Trolling.
>>701465 /n/ is not for pedophiles.
get the fuck out.
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>>701489 You want to fuck girls under the age of 18 and you know it.
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>>701408 Butthurt Obama-fag
>>701508 awwwww... i hit a sweet spot. ;_;
don't cry too hard now, ya hear?
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>>701463 me too.
"I may not ever be able to quit drinking. God won't help me, and neither will AA."
The steps actually work but you must do each of them. AA did little for me but works for many.
With rare periods of sobriety I drank 30+ years but just marked 12 sober.
You *must* reconstruct a healthy life to replace the destructive one.
dood....if i can do it anyone can.
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>>701512 You type like cartoon bullies talk.
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>Ohio Town's Democrats See 'Hope' Differently
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>>701544 i watch too many cartoons. hippies tend to do that. my favorite's ren and stimpy.
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>>701544 120 lb. basement dwelling virgin bully
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>>701436 Then maybe you should do a little more research since he has put forward plans. You're planning on voting but you refuse to do 2 minutes of research? What a douche.
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>>701538 My problem is the reflexive part of the conditioning of AA. You don't have to help anyone when it's God's responsibility. Sponsors are necessary to enter(I imagine that part seems like a non-sequitur compared to the prior sentence. I assure you, it is not. Think 'Masons'. They require the same thing. A sponsor.) For ME(not you), that's bullshit. People who need help, need to be given a hand up.
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>>701770 Just like education, it takes 8-10 years to master anything.
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>>"Obama, doesn't he sound a little naive?" asked Huenke, 52. "He stands up there, so optimistic, preaching about hope and change. It sounds great and everything, but come on. He doesn't quite get it."
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>>702453 I plan on voting for Obama because he believes in change as strongly as I do.
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>>702453 >>702457 i really hate /n/. haha.
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>>701770 Forget AA for now. There is something evil about the disease. If you turn the job over to your intellect you have a compromised alcoholic brain contesting your sobriety.
I used to see the turning over to a higher power too born again to do. Now I simply catch the initial thoughts of drinking and suggest to whatever might care or be there that I'm powerless so I'm signing off the argument.
This appears to short circuit addictive rationalization. Hell, I'm pragmatic and dry so who cares if the so called higher power is Mickey Mouse, gawd or just not dwelling on something you already know is insidious?
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>>702457 I plan on voting for Obama because he believes in chnage as strongly as I do.Fixed.
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>>702506 You copied his comment and didn't change anything retard.
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>>702488 It makes sense to me actually. I'm a heavy smoker trying to cut back. Never liked drinking too too much as I don't like the loss of self control, but I can see how it's addiction can be powerful. Because of that, it makes sense to combat irrationality with more irrationality in this one instance.
It's like trying to rationalize someone out of their faith. Faith isn't based on reason, neither is addiction. You fight a compulsion with another learned compulsion however, it might work.
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>>702509 Look closer you dyslexic bitch.
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Ohio sucks diseased moose wang.
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>>702509 You are unobservant and stupid in equal measure.
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Fuck change, we just had change, it fucked shit up. What we need is return.
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>>701405 >>Voters like Huenke present a difficult challenge to Sen. Barack Obama as he looks ahead to March 4, or maybe because Ohio isnt 60 percent black like Washington DC? or 40 percent black like Maryland?
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Oh yeah
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Obama makes sammiches, then offers you one and a smoke.
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>>703098 sage for dellfaggotry
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>>703101 sage for failsage
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>>703101 better than a macfag, amirite?
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>>703108 You are right my goodman.
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>>703120 sigh. lol.
i guess hope died with bush.
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>>703193 our current, most bestest president in the whole wide world.
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>>703195 hard to type with your mouth full of Bush cock?
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>>703218 Monica perfected the art when with Bill
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forced anon on /n/
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>>703218 just quadruple mirrored trolled.
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i live next to ohio and let me tell you something, ohio has the dumbest residents of any state in the union and i have been to alabama florida missouri and kansas and have known quite a few people from new jersey
