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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2011 13:53:00 No.4617087 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>4617101 >>4617102 >>4617479

Is a Prius worth it? 30k and you save some money on gas
Or you buy a 5k car and now you have 25K for gas.

Discuss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2011 13:56:00 No.4617096 Report

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Audifag !hkmIncFW3w!!dBx6926nJj0

Audifag !hkmIncFW3w!!dBx6926nJj0 Thu 28 Apr 2011 13:57:00 No.4617101 Report

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>>4617087
>Implying everyone drops $30k cash on a car or $5k to have $25k left over

'Cause nobody finances, right?

TheGirlFormerlyKnownAsIllegitimateChildTron !!jm3qmcv6wc9

TheGirlFormerlyKnownAsIllegitimateChildTron !!jm3qmcv6wc9 Thu 28 Apr 2011 13:59:00 No.4617102 Report

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>>4617087
enjoy destroying your precious environment with your ass load of non recyclable batteries that have to replaced every few years you stupid hipster fuckface.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2011 14:00:00 No.4617106 Report

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Buying a car to save on gas is like buying a house to save on rent.

Drive what you love, or get a bicycle.

lolzorolololol

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lolzorolololol Thu 28 Apr 2011 14:04:00 No.4617111 Report

Quoted By: >>4617182

Its fucking stupid, It's not even that economical, The Citroen ax is twice as economical and like 3K nzd.
One would wonder if it was built to be economical or just a sell point to 'save' the environment...

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Bugfag Thu 28 Apr 2011 14:13:00 No.4617126 Report

Quoted By: >>4617170

i see priuses as Macs
-hipster shit
-you can build a better product with the money spent in it
-for retarded people
-people get it because its "hip" go green, its not about reliablity/gas consumption

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2011 14:21:00 No.4617144 Report

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>Buy E46 M3
>Several grand left over for maintenance and gas
>Actually drive a fucking cool and quick car

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2011 14:27:00 No.4617157 Report

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>$30,000 econobox

TheFrank is EuroTrash !hCUNTqyOy.

TheFrank is EuroTrash !hCUNTqyOy. Thu 28 Apr 2011 14:29:00 No.4617158 Report

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Saves money on gas because you're too embarrassed to drive it.

ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M.

ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M. Thu 28 Apr 2011 14:30:00 No.4617162 Report

Quoted By: >>4617178 >>4617212

It's mostly used by Toyota as a platform to test hybrid technologies and gain public acceptance of them.

They'll get better and cheaper because of this step.

People buy it for the same reason they buy pretty much any car. It give them an image and it's kinda cool if you're into flash stuff.

Also, unlike most of this board, the people who buy this car are not poor.

Richard M. Nixon !!Mx8xqNej0D6

Richard M. Nixon !!Mx8xqNej0D6 Thu 28 Apr 2011 14:32:00 No.4617168 Report

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I recently did some work at a Toyota dealership, of the seven Prius on the lot five of them rattled their own engines loose.

I am not making a statement against Toyota, or hybrids. Just the 2011 Prius.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2011 14:33:00 No.4617170 Report

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>>4617126

>Doesn't know shit about hipsters

I've never seen a hipster drive a prius

I'm a hipster and i drive an e36 m3
My friend is a hipster and he drives an rx8
Another friend is a hipster, and he drives a civic

I don't mean to say these are spectacular car, but he first two are hardly fuel efficient

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2011 14:36:00 No.4617178 Report

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>>4617162
Yeah br/o/ if I was rich the first car I would get would be a Prius...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2011 14:37:00 No.4617182 Report

Quoted By: >>4617188 >>4617207

why so much hate ? nothing can do what a prius does. the only thing i'd be worry about is cost of long term ownership. i'll stick wit hmy obd1 cars
>>4617111

i dont see five doors that shit looks like the size of a polo

Tiwtin !KSdB7Rfw9w

Tiwtin !KSdB7Rfw9w Thu 28 Apr 2011 14:39:00 No.4617184 Report

Quoted By: >>4617200 >>4617207

>Implying the CRX doesn't get comparable gas mileage for less money if kept stock.

lolzorolololol

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lolzorolololol Thu 28 Apr 2011 14:40:00 No.4617188 Report

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>>4617182
(pic related)

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ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M. Thu 28 Apr 2011 14:44:00 No.4617192 Report

Quoted By: >>4617202 >>4617208

>>4617178
Derp
If you were into the economy/planet saving green image and you had money then you would get a Prius.

Stop being grumpy old man who can't see things from other peoples' perspectives.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2011 14:49:00 No.4617200 Report

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>>4617184
herp derp 20yo two seater

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2011 14:49:00 No.4617202 Report

Quoted By: >>4617209

>>4617192
Actually, Porsche Spyder 918.
I wouldn't mind how much it cost's though, Because I am saving the planet, man.

ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M.

ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M. Thu 28 Apr 2011 14:50:00 No.4617207 Report

Quoted By: >>4617216

>>4617184
Yeah but the CRX is an old shitbox with no safety.

>>4617182
I've talked at length about long term ownership to a few cabbies that drive Priuses. All of them praise the Prius's reliability and low long-term cost, here's an anecdotal story that stuck with me the most.

>going to Airport
>1hr away
>call taxi
>Dude turns up in a Prius. Boot swallows my luggage comfortably and I get in.
>Notice he's just over 1million kilometres on the odo
>Ask about cost of long term ownership
>To date, he has replaced only 2 things outside of scheduled servicing (I think one was an aircon fuel pump, can't remember the other thing but it wasn't mechanical either).
>Last car he had that ran over 1 million kms was a Ford Falcon with a natural gas conversion. By the time he reached 1 million kms he was already on his 3rd gearbox.
>Difference in purchase price was paid for in fuel savings (from the Prius) within 6 months.

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Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng Thu 28 Apr 2011 14:51:00 No.4617208 Report

Quoted By: >>4617212 >>4617394

>>4617192

Nope if you were into savingng the planet/economy you would get a late 80s crx or geo metro.

Prius is all about a misleading image. You know what sort of environmental impact mining for the metals in batteries has?

ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M.

ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M. Thu 28 Apr 2011 14:51:00 No.4617209 Report

Quoted By: >>4617218

>>4617202
Because everyone wants a supercar amiright?

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ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M. Thu 28 Apr 2011 14:52:00 No.4617212 Report

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>>4617208
Refer to
>>4617162

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ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M. Thu 28 Apr 2011 14:54:00 No.4617216 Report

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>>4617207
>aircon fuel pump
meant
>aircon coolant pump

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2011 14:54:00 No.4617218 Report

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>>4617209
Lawl, you just can't handle how rich I am.
500hp, 3 L/100 km

Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng

Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng Thu 28 Apr 2011 14:56:00 No.4617221 Report

Quoted By: >>4617223 >>4617226 >>4617247

>>4617212

That doesn't address any of the points I made.

>There are more fuel efficient vehicles at a lesser cost.

>There are vehicles with much lesser environmental impact

Also I disagree that most people buy a car because they feel it gives them an image. The are means of transport, not shirts with goofy phrases on them.

ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M.

ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M. Thu 28 Apr 2011 14:58:00 No.4617222 Report

Quoted By: >>4617225

ITT:
>M/o/rons think they know the global automotive market better than the largest auto manufacturer in the world because they can't afford anything better than an 80's shitbox.
>M/o/rons not understanding that as a company, Toyota wants to make money more than anything else.

Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng

Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng Thu 28 Apr 2011 14:58:00 No.4617223 Report

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>>4617221

less*

Also getting your 'investment' returned in fuel savings is much, much, much, slower than if you were to buy something much cheaper and more efficient

Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng

Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng Thu 28 Apr 2011 14:59:00 No.4617225 Report

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>>4617222

ITT: You.

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ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M. Thu 28 Apr 2011 14:59:00 No.4617226 Report

Quoted By: >>4617230 >>4617235

>>4617221
>Hurrdurr because I disagree everyone else is wrong.
This is the only thing wrong with your posts. Unfortunately this is the only thing your posts consist of.

Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng

Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:01:00 No.4617230 Report

Quoted By: >>4617238

>>4617226

Would you like to seriously respond?

Sure buying a prius is better for the environment then getting a few other cars in its class, but it is no where near the best option.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:03:00 No.4617235 Report

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>>4617226
I actually contacted Toyota, They basically said that it's a work in progress and then they know its not perfect. Then they copypastad some info from there site and signed it. Felt rather accomplished afterward.

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ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M. Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:03:00 No.4617238 Report

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>>4617230
Neither is getting a Ferrari for going fast.

I don't see y/o/u bashing Ferrari owners though.

Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng

Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:04:00 No.4617239 Report

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>>4617238

I do.

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ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M. Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:05:00 No.4617241 Report

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>>4617239
So now we come back to you bashing everyone else's value judgements solely on the basis of your own value judgements.
At least you're consistently hypocritical.

Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng

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Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:07:00 No.4617244 Report

Quoted By: >>4617264

Don't Mind me, the 1989 Honda CRX HF, just getting 50mpgs on the highway with out having horrible impacts on the earth caused by mining a non-renewable nickel for my battery bank and only costing about $1000

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/4138.shtml

Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng

Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:08:00 No.4617245 Report

Quoted By: >>4617272

>>4617241

Just because I think you are wrong doesn't mean I think everyone else is.

I could be because you are wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:08:00 No.4617247 Report

Quoted By: >>4617249 >>4617256

>>4617221

wtf world do you live in ?

have you seen all the fags with ferrari gear on ?

the more fuel efficient cars are old clankity pos and you'd have to drive like an asshat to get better then prius #'s

insight is the only competition

Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng

Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:09:00 No.4617249 Report

Quoted By: >>4617259

>>4617247

I live on Earth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:12:00 No.4617256 Report

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>>4617247

>Implying CRX's dont get better MPG at normal driving.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:12:00 No.4617258 Report

Quoted By: >>4617263 >>4617273

This thread is now about Ferrari F430s.

Any objections?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:13:00 No.4617259 Report

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>>4617249lets build windmills

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H Series !5ab0bQ2mfA Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:14:00 No.4617263 Report

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>>4617258

yes.

ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M.

ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M. Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:14:00 No.4617264 Report

Quoted By: >>4617327

>>4617244
>Still do not understand that Prius is not entirely about saving the planet

Must I reiterate?

To Toyota, it's a cash cow riding on the back of the green movement (which they very accurately predicted in the mid 90s) and an opportunity to learn how to develop even better and more efficient fuel systems for the future.

To consumers it's a way to appear as supporting the green movement or simply to save a fuck load of money in the long run while having a modern econobox.

Saying the Prius is not the most cost effective way to have transport that has minimal impact on the global environment is called the Strawman fallacy.

You're setting up this obviously shitty statement as a fact presented by your opposition (the green movement) and then ripping it to shreds in order to discredit them.

So what? So you can feel better about belching shit tons of CO2 in your shitbox? So old and poor fags can feel superior?

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:14:00 No.4617265 Report

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dey see me rollin' dey hatin'

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:16:00 No.4617268 Report

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ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M. Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:17:00 No.4617272 Report

Quoted By: >>4617281 >>4617290

>>4617245
>Implying I've been defending the Prius on the basis that it's the most cost effective method of reducing the impact of my personal transportation.

Good job putting words into my mouth. Did you even graduate highschool?

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:17:00 No.4617273 Report

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>>4617258

iconic classic f40 > f430 watered down version

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:21:00 No.4617279 Report

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op didn't even ask about the environmental impact

you drive a 20 yo crx congrats

H Series !5ab0bQ2mfA

H Series !5ab0bQ2mfA Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:21:00 No.4617281 Report

Quoted By: >>4617294 >>4617304

>>4617272

Just because i cannot derive this information from your posts.

why are you defending the prius?

Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng

Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:23:00 No.4617290 Report

Quoted By: >>4617315

>>4617272

I am glad that you agree there is no reason to buy a Prius. Other than the wrongly presented image.

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ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M. Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:24:00 No.4617294 Report

Quoted By: >>4617301 >>4617307

>>4617281
Because everybody attacks it based on shitty assumptions.
Nobody actually thinks:
>hey I want the most cost effective way to have cheap, low environmental impact, personal transportation
but that's the angle that all attacks on the Prius are based on.

Toyota doesn't even market the Prius as low environmental impact. They just say it's fuel efficient and emits low CO2. The rest of the green image is assumed.

Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng

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Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:26:00 No.4617301 Report

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>>4617294

>Implying nobody thinks that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:27:00 No.4617304 Report

Quoted By: >>4617307

>>4617281
because if you want a usable 30k car that gets 40 mpg easy there's nothing much better

H Series !5ab0bQ2mfA

H Series !5ab0bQ2mfA Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:28:00 No.4617307 Report

Quoted By: >>4617333

>>4617304
honda civic GX (yeah its not the most practical thing in the world)

>>4617294

so the only reason you defend it is because other people attack it?

ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M.

ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M. Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:30:00 No.4617315 Report

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>>4617290
I would disagree and say that even aside from image, there are plenty of reasons to buy a Prius.
It's just that exactly 0 of them appeal to car/driving enthusiasts of any stripe.

I can see, however, a future where hybrid cars are comparable in terms of upfront and long term cost as their non-hybrid siblings and in lieu of a comprehensive electric car gridwork they'd be a good choice.

TheFrank is EuroTrash !hCUNTqyOy.

TheFrank is EuroTrash !hCUNTqyOy. Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:33:00 No.4617327 Report

Quoted By: >>4617343

>>4617264
>Calling the Prius a cash cow

They lose money on each one they sell brah.

ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M.

ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M. Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:35:00 No.4617333 Report

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>>4617307
I'm not sure. I just do it.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:35:00 No.4617339 Report

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You guys keep driving those Priuses (Prii?).
Us people with 302ci V8s need the gas.

ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M.

ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M. Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:36:00 No.4617343 Report

Quoted By: >>4617369

>>4617327
Hmmm..
I guess then, to Toyota, its use as a development platform for future profits outweighs any short-term losses.

Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng

Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:41:00 No.4617369 Report

Quoted By: >>4617377

>>4617343

So you are a Prius fanboy based on a few guesses and an unexplainable urge?

Sounds like the last kinda person I would like to tell me what to drive...

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ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M. Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:43:00 No.4617377 Report

Quoted By: >>4617394

>>4617369
If you look through my posts you'll notice that I didn't tell you what you should drive at all.

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Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:46:00 No.4617394 Report

Quoted By: >>4617417

>>>>4617377

See

>>4617208

Not directed at me, but suggesting "If you were into the economy/planet saving green image and you had money then you would get a Prius."

ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M.

ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M. Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:50:00 No.4617417 Report

Quoted By: >>4617440

>>4617394
Suggesting a possible reason someone might get a Prius because it seemed that you couldn't understand why anyone would get one. Not at all dictating what any single actual person should get.

Similar to saying people who like the colour yellow would get yellow clothes.

Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng

Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng Thu 28 Apr 2011 15:59:00 No.4617440 Report

Quoted By: >>4617445

>>4617417

No its like suggesting that people who like the color yellow should get overpriced clothes that only look yellow under a certain light when there are many other better clothing options that look yellower and fit more comfortably.

ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M.

ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M. Thu 28 Apr 2011 16:01:00 No.4617445 Report

Quoted By: >>4617446

>>4617440
And now you're assuming, once againe, there's a definite, objective end of a subjective measure - oxymoronic at best.

In this case you assume that your definition of "most comfortable" and "best looking" are the same for everyone.

Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng

Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng Thu 28 Apr 2011 16:03:00 No.4617446 Report

Quoted By: >>4617453

>>4617445

It isn't my fault other people are dumb.

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ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M. Thu 28 Apr 2011 16:04:00 No.4617453 Report

Quoted By: >>4617454

>>4617446
But it is your fault for thinking that other people are dumb because they don't like the same things as you do.

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Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng Thu 28 Apr 2011 16:05:00 No.4617454 Report

Quoted By: >>4617461

>>4617453

Exactly, it is my fault I am correct.

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Namefag !BLUES7.oeQ Thu 28 Apr 2011 16:06:00 No.4617455 Report

Quoted By: >>4617466

Saves you a couple thousand every few years..

but then replacing the battery costs a couple thousand every few years...

just get a fucking diesel

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2011 16:07:00 No.4617460 Report

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get a volt

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ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M. Thu 28 Apr 2011 16:07:00 No.4617461 Report

Quoted By: >>4617470

>>4617454
I now bow out of this discussion.
You have proven time and time again that you are completely incapable of understanding anyone else's perspective and despite many examples continue to bash others for having a different opinion.

> What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.
> At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.
>Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.
>I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M.

ImprezMe !Ifboxer2M. Thu 28 Apr 2011 16:10:00 No.4617466 Report

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>>4617455
All depends on how much you drive though.
tl:dr for my post earlier:
>Priuses which are used as taxis or the like would realise significant savings
And I'm not sure how often the battery replacement cycle is but it seems that at least 500,000 kms without a replacement is the norm (talking to many cabbies, haven't met one that's changed a battery yet).

Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng

Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng Thu 28 Apr 2011 16:11:00 No.4617470 Report

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>>4617461

> What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.
Not my fault you are incapable of understanding me.
> At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.
I even posted links to a car that gets comparable fuel economy that costs 1/30th of the price.

>Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.
Implying that we are all in a room audibly speaking.

>I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Keep your points I don't believe in god.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2011 16:14:00 No.4617479 Report

Quoted By: >>4617481

>>4617087

why not just get a cheaper car that uses less fuel (pic related)

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Flapjack !FLAPYv4Tng Thu 28 Apr 2011 16:15:00 No.4617481 Report

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>>4617479

This.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Apr 2011 04:41:00 No.4618781 Report

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VW BlueMotion Golf 1.6 TDI gets better milage

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