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Anonymous Fri 29 Apr 2011 12:58:00 No.4621397 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>4621406 >>4621511

Putting a 1967 440 in my 1973 Plymouth Duster any body here have experience making big power with 440? thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Apr 2011 13:00:00 No.4621406 Report

Quoted By: >>4621427

>>4621397
rofl your car is old and ugly as fuck

I bet it's manual too.

scrap that bitch and get a toyota/honda

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Anonymous Fri 29 Apr 2011 13:04:00 No.4621427 Report

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>>4621406
haha good one.

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Mstroker !!iUsFw5h6mKo Fri 29 Apr 2011 13:07:00 No.4621440 Report

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>>4621427
put some high compression pistons in, and be done with it, that is huge motor for that car bro.

Srysly

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Anonymous Fri 29 Apr 2011 13:11:00 No.4621467 Report

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>>4621440
ya i know :P thanks man

Piston

Piston Fri 29 Apr 2011 13:18:00 No.4621500 Report

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What do you want to know OP? Im the resident Mopar fanatic (51-1974). just finished installing one in a 1970 Duster.

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BMWfag !!t429e3hVAnH Fri 29 Apr 2011 13:20:00 No.4621510 Report

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I'm sure a stock 440 is enough power as is. Make sure you uprate your brakes and suspension first. Oh, and doing the good ol' drivers mod

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Anonymous Fri 29 Apr 2011 13:20:00 No.4621511 Report

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>>4621397
Proper brakes and suspension are extremely important at that level of power. Don't be an idiot with 400+ whp and drums.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Apr 2011 13:22:00 No.4621522 Report

Quoted By: >>4621527 >>4621540

i run 400+ whp with no front brakes and only aluminum drums on the rear

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BMWfag !!t429e3hVAnH Fri 29 Apr 2011 13:23:00 No.4621527 Report

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>>4621522
You are a true idiot. People like you shouldn't be allowed to modify cars.

> MFW

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Piston Fri 29 Apr 2011 13:23:00 No.4621529 Report

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>>4621511
Well depending on which level of Duster he bought it will have front disk brakes however Im guessing its not one of those and most likely a former slant six 225 car. Which means you will need to replace your torsion bars, good idea to install sub frame connectors (but not necessary), and a few other things. But are you wanting to know what to do to make power with the 440?

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Anonymous Fri 29 Apr 2011 13:25:00 No.4621539 Report

Quoted By: >>4621544 >>4621562

ya its a 225 right now. looking for any advice on getting extra power easily or even tips getting the bastard in there. thanks

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Anonymous Fri 29 Apr 2011 13:26:00 No.4621540 Report

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>>4621522

gotta save that weight

Piston

Piston Fri 29 Apr 2011 13:26:00 No.4621543 Report

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>>4621527
...those are dragsters bud, parachute really helps with that.

However i do run large drum brakes front and back on my Chevelle (556rwhp) however i certainly dont recommend it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Apr 2011 13:26:00 No.4621544 Report

Quoted By: >>4621558 >>4621589

>>4621539

tarbo that slant six. give it 20 poundsaboost

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Anonymous Fri 29 Apr 2011 13:29:00 No.4621558 Report

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>>4621544
the slant six is pretty beat up and not running :/

Piston

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Piston Fri 29 Apr 2011 13:30:00 No.4621562 Report

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>>4621539
Go here http://www.forabodiesonly.com/

http://www.bigblockdart.com/

And ask for all the little details, Duster is an A body, pre 70 Cuda, Darts, Dusters, Demons etc. Its not a hard swap actually but getting the headers to fit is a bitch.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Apr 2011 13:30:00 No.4621565 Report

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doesn't someone like car craft always have a junkyard 440 build every year? just copy theirs for known power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Apr 2011 13:32:00 No.4621574 Report

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>>4621558
>slant six
>pretty beat up
Fair enough.

>not running

GETTHEFUCKOUT.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Apr 2011 13:32:00 No.4621576 Report

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>>4621562
Thanks I'll check them out, i've searched and headers made to fit in there are 600+ bucks :P

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Anonymous Fri 29 Apr 2011 13:34:00 No.4621587 Report

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>>4621574
been sitting for over 10 years, got it pretty recently and havent been able to bring it back to life yet :P

Piston

Piston Fri 29 Apr 2011 13:34:00 No.4621589 Report

Quoted By: >>4621604 >>4621745

>>4621544
Slant six's are really good engines and very strong and beefy however there isnt a big aftermarket field for them and by the time you built one with 400hp you could have built 3-4 440's.

Now as far as making power, DONT run a flat tappet cam if this is your first time running an old school engine. You have to add a lot of additives usually and if you forget, well then its time to rebuild the engine. So Id run a retro-fit Hydr. Roller cam (buy the kit at Comp Cams, Crane Cams, Voodoo etc) talk to the guys at the websites I gave you about cam selection. Bump the compression up to about 10:1 (new pistons) port and polish the heads and larger valves, put a edelbrock intake, a good Holley double pumper 750cfm, either a pair of headers or get the old exhaust manifolds and have them ported. With that you should have in the good 450hp range.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Apr 2011 13:38:00 No.4621604 Report

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>>4621589
Thanks, ill look into em

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BMWfag !!t429e3hVAnH Fri 29 Apr 2011 14:20:00 No.4621745 Report

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>>4621589
How come oldfag American cars never came with multiple carbs like the European/Japanese cars came with. Surely 4x 2 barrel carbs and 2-2 manifolds would flow a hell of a lot better than those silly 4-8 manifolds americans love so much

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Piston Fri 29 Apr 2011 14:26:00 No.4621767 Report

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>>4621745
My friend I dont mean to be rude but where the hell have you been. The 426 Hemi's came from the factory with 2 4bbl carbs, so did the 413/426 Max Wedges, so did the 409's, Z28 DZ 302 engines, 440's could be ordered with the Sixpacks which were 3 2bbl carbs as could the 389 pontiacs. In fact most high performance engines from the 50's and 60's could all be ordered with either 2 4bbls or 3 2bbl. However when it comes to racing its harder to tune the multiple carbs as well as having them be a daily driver. Also it matters about what your engine actually needs rather then how many carbs you have. You can buy a single 4bbl carb that flows 1100cfm or more, most dont need that however.

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BMWfag !!t429e3hVAnH Fri 29 Apr 2011 14:32:00 No.4621792 Report

Quoted By: >>4621811 >>4621815

>>4621767
You're right, I have seen them. But they are the exception rather than the rule. Usually when I see older american cars with v8s at car shows it's usually a single 4 barrel carb

Piston

Piston Fri 29 Apr 2011 14:36:00 No.4621811 Report

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>>4621792
Thats mainly because of the driveability aspect of it and the hardship of tuning. But its mainly because with the carbs of today you can get so much more out of them that you dont really need two unless its running a turbo or blower/nitrous. In fact Pro Systems just designed a single barrel 1 butterfly valve carb that can flow 1800cfm and responds better then your normal 4bbl. Go look it up you might be interested.

Piston

Piston Fri 29 Apr 2011 14:37:00 No.4621815 Report

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>>4621792
Also have to remember most of those cars youve seen with multiple carbs (not all of course) are full out race cars. These muscle cars are built to race and then drive back home with 4 ppl in the car and then take the kids to school on monday

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BMWfag !!t429e3hVAnH Fri 29 Apr 2011 14:40:00 No.4621824 Report

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>>4621815
Good points. Whenever I hear a car running a bunch of carbs the sound is just...on a different level. I haven't driven one personally, but it seems to me they just seem to rev like crazy compared to the single/twin carb engines

Plus, the visual aesthetic: http://www.piercemanifolds.com/v/vspfiles/photos/K352-50-2T.jpg

Goddamn.

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BMWfag !!t429e3hVAnH Fri 29 Apr 2011 14:44:00 No.4621842 Report

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I love that about the good old small block is that you can do virtually anything in the world you want to them. Aftermarket is there for everything.

When it comes to BMWs, if you want to do your own thing, you really need to do it YOURSELF. Unless you have serious money, of course. Heh.

I'd love to use say a 327 as a base. De-stroke it, bore it out. Forged flat-plane crank, carillo rods, CP pistons (high comp), 4x weber dcoe-45, high-po valve springs/etc, gear driven cam..fuck yeah.

Piston

Piston Fri 29 Apr 2011 14:53:00 No.4621871 Report

Quoted By: >>4621894

>>4621842
Hell yea, the 327 365hp version was a 302DZ motor bored and storked out. Crazy power. I love the 340 sixpack engine myself. And yea the multi carbs sound awesome and look amazing but when it comes to racing its simply easier to make power with 1 carb unless you need it. And i understand what you mean about the BMW until a few years ago you had to do the same thing with Mopars (50's-70's). Fortunately the aftermarket business is picking up since the Mopars are so popular now.

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BMWfag !!t429e3hVAnH Fri 29 Apr 2011 14:59:00 No.4621894 Report

Quoted By: >>4621900

>>4621871
Yeah, it is frustrating, sometimes. Especially when you talk about doing something new and everyone tells you it can't be done. I tell you, when you do it, and shove the fact in their faces..feels good.

Adversity, like stress, seems to inspire and focus the mind.

Piston

Piston Fri 29 Apr 2011 15:00:00 No.4621900 Report

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>>4621894
Completely agree.

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