Sup /o/. I've been thinking a lot about doing a large displacement swap in to an 80s japanese car for a drag racing project. You can pick pretty much any 2 door japanese sedan from the 80s, and that's what I'm looking for. They're dirt cheap right now, light, and some of them have a long engine bays. I'm in to the aesthetics for some reason too, which is why I thought up this project.
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I'd love to go for a 280z or earlier because of the looks and fuckhuge engine bay, but it's out of the question in my area. They're all extremely rusted, and slicing the car up and replacing all the parts is out of the question.
Anonymous
>>4635154 I picked drag racing because I want to spend time on mechanics, not at the track. That's the point of the project.
rotaryfag !!5FX8uX0tFQ9
Why don't you find an appropriate American chassis?
>>4635172 i do not get it. its your money do whatever. personally i hate the whole drag scene. hicks and hillbillys around here.
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>>4635186 the only correct answer is a FED
you wont be needing a lot of money to get one
Anonymous
>>4635186 I'd love to, but it's mainly for the looks. As much as I like me some 60s american cars, I'd rather be driving a car I'm in love with.
>>4635188 I think people that actually enjoy drag racing as a sport more than the rush and people that actually watch non-pro drag racing are pretty retarded. It's not like the actual racing is challenging or very entertaining in the least. Like I said, alllll about the mechanics.
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>>4635217 hurpadurp, forgot my pic.
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Overboard and Self-Assured !!yvm0QrHZZJQ Mon 02 May 2011 10:29:00 No. 4635245 Report >>4635172 >A60 celica do it faggot
>>4635217 i was referring to the people that do this often, at the track. hicks, dropouts, idiots etc
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>>4635245 I'll have to shop around. I don't like them nearly as much as these Mark IIs though.
rotaryfag !!5FX8uX0tFQ9
>>4635217 So you want to drive a car that you're in love with as a 1/4 mile racing project?
So you want to take a car you love, strip it down to nearly nothing, tub it out, stuff a huge motor in it, and completely fuck the driving characteristics in anything but a straight line.
...and you love this car?
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>>4635253 Sounds gross. I'm hoping to avoid as much contact with those types as possible.
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>>4635167 >>4635154 Wouldn't these benefit a TON from an intercooler?
>>4635245 wwwwww
how about this
510, ls2, 9" rear, tubbed, 4 link
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1UZ
Anonymous
>>4635272 There's a certain line I see that is crossed in drag racing. I'm not going to sell the soul of the car for the fastest times possible or anything.
rotaryfag !!5FX8uX0tFQ9
>>4635280 It's entirely possible that they have water to air aftercoolers built in to the intake manifolds.
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fiat 124 with SR20DET swap
Anonymous
>>4635283 As much as I'd love to go for an older one like that they're simply too rare. I haven't found anything remotely similar in the past 4 months of classifieds ery day.
>>4635296 UZ is on my researching to-do list, but I haven't checked out the Nissan V8s yet. Thanks for the suggestion.
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>>4635297 >not going to sell the soul of the car >only the engine Anonymous
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>>4635306 yeah, didn't think about that lol
henry_ford !T/cybz7iao
>>4635296 those are both too small
OP, you said big displacement, that means 400+ cubic inches or go home.
find an LS2 or LS3 and drop that shit in an FD for surprise buttsex
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you need a ke35 corolla coupe. maximum lightness
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>>4635314 If you do go UZ, make sure you get a nice set of intake and exhaust manifolds made.
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>>4635321 I'd fucking love it. What I basically meant was, the project means the biggest displacement possible.
>>4635317 Just talking about avoiding things that will completely take the car past an irreparable state. I'm hoping to get it as fast as possible while still retaining the possibility of someone taking it and returning it to stock.
henry_ford !T/cybz7iao
FYI OP, the LS1 is a pretty common engine swap into just about any car, and there are kits online at places like painless performance that have nearly everything you need to swap them into whatever
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>>4635363 I've been looking in to those swaps a lot actually. 5.7 liters is around the target displacement with these sorts of cars for the most part. It'll help out considering pretty much any 350 engine in existence is privy to engine swapping. Unless I get something extremely tiny, in which case I'll tend towards the pre 5.0 motors.
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If you get an LS engine fine, but if you put it in a Nissan I will hunt you down skin you and eat the remains.
Datsun's Creek !!4pJOBrDw5YJ
>>4635369 ls1 it up, easy to do and fun to build
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ITT: the stunning revelation that ls1 swaps are only popular because the amerifats can't build a chassis worth a shit
Anonymous
>>4635369 I would absolutely love to stick to companies (toyota car w/ toyota engine, nissan car w/ nissan engine, etc) when it comes to the engine swap, but some options are making me stray away from that idea. I don't really have any connection with any of the companies right now either, so that isn't helping me stick to the principle. Give me logical reasons why, whether it be ease of swap or etc. it'll help you get what you want.
Anonymous
What do you guys think of the LT1 engine? I hear they're extremely easy to find and cheap to build up. I'm not planning on ever pushing mid 10s or anything, so I don't need the perfect platform. Just something that will be cheap and relatively reliable (I know, loldragracing) up to that point.
henry_ford !T/cybz7iao
>>4635389 because it will piss off Type-R, and nobody likes him on this board
also who cares about whether the engine and chassis are from the same manufacturer? F1 chassis and engines are made by different manufacturers, whats the big deal?
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>>4635389 I'm just saying if you want an LS engine, just don't put it in a Nissan.
Anyways, 1UZ and VH41/45s are dirt cheap.
Albeit the 1UZ have almost no aftermarket in the US so you will have to go custom for most things.
VH41 and 45 should have a fair bit of bolt on parts and internals from Stillen and a few others
henry_ford !T/cybz7iao
>>4635398 LT1 would be OK but they're heavier (iron block, LS1 is all aluminum) and not as powerful. cheaper though. other than that basically the same.
Datsun's Creek !!4pJOBrDw5YJ
>>4635382 or try a old chebby swap
Tyte R just loves SBCs
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>>4635401 Well, I understand why some people do that on principle, if they love the company and want to support it or etc. I wouldn't feel very guilty about it or anything unless I pushed the car past restoration, honestly.
Also, dun forgot my trip all thread.
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>>4635408 Stop that
>>4635401 You are a ricer, 18 years old and in college. I have owned more performance cars and cars in general than you have in your life thus far.
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lt1 is a loser in a car. its more like a truck motor, except the distrubitor sucks if its wet. its made for torque not HP. you want something that can breathe freely, or why bother at all.
Newfriend aut/o/tard !!ryTXKwCLN5B
>>4635406 I'll look in to them absolutely, especially if I get a smaller car that can't handle very much displacement in sheer space.
>>4635407 That's good to know, thanks. The prices are attracting me to them a LOT.
>>4635408 Old chebys are everywhere in my area. maybe.
Also, do you guys have any suggestions for transmission? I'm going auto for a transbrake and etc. options. Thinking TH-350 or the like because they could last through a goddamn nuclear apocalypse.
Datsun's Creek !!4pJOBrDw5YJ
>>4635427 i was kidding about SBCs bro, they're everywhere. Get an ls1/t56 tranny, great swap. Or go hard in the paint with a jag v12
henry_ford !T/cybz7iao
>>4635418 lol wow type-r, that really got you riled up.
how does it feel knowing that a 19 (not 18) year old college ricer has more performance driving experience than you? you've never even been on a track in your life.
henry_ford !T/cybz7iao
>>4635462 also inb4 pictures of your "performance cars"
Newfriend aut/o/tard !!ryTXKwCLN5B
>>4635435 If I get any heavy influence to go with a manual transmission before I buy the car I'll think about that, but it's probably out of the question. I haven't put time in to reading up on the jag V12s. Does such small displacement within a V12 help with reliability?
Also: How much would I be expecting to pay for an LS1? I see online prices around $5,000, but I've heard they're a shit ton cheaper from a junkyard or pulled from a misc. parts car. Since rebuilding the engine wouldn't be terrible (even preferred, in this project) that's definitely a possibility.
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Just find the shittiest example of whatever you like the look of and hack it the fuck up. Rust = chemical weight reduction. Who cares if it'll never be stock again, you just want it to blast down a straight track as fast (and apparently as cheap) as possible. Spend your money on your car for your reasons, the cars you're looking at aren't irreplaceable pieces of automotive art. If someone gives you shit about "destroying" a fuckin rusted out jap coupe from the eighties, the words go fuck yourself come in handy pretty often.
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>>4635462 I went to Porsche Sport Driving School, step off.
Anyway OP, it's your choice. Just go with what you feel is best for you.
>>4635468 >Faster than your car >5x more power than your car >Handles better than your car >More practical and better looking
>>4635470 If you want to hear a sweet V-12 then listen to a
late 70's Jag Can-am V12 spinning at ~12,000RPM..
henry_ford !T/cybz7iao
>>4635492 oh damn porsche driving school? shit son, i dunno if i can touch that.
Newfriend aut/o/tard !!ryTXKwCLN5B
>>4635503 I just did. Honestly shed one manly teared and enjoyed it.
Also, thank you guys for the tripdrama to keep my thread bumped. Lol
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>>4635314 I just found one of these fuckers on local classifieds. Might check it out soon.
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>>4635516 >Your car is still slow and ugly >You are still a ricer >>4635530 No problem.. IF you do get an old Celica. UZ
Newfriend aut/o/tard !!ryTXKwCLN5B
Do you guys think the parts for these cars will be easy to find? If I find something that's a little butchered, missing panels or etc.
henry_ford !T/cybz7iao
>>4635540 >you are visibly upset ?????????????????? !GTRkY/VtrY
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>>4635560 Depends on the car and what time period. Something like a Z would be easy, and early Celica is a toss up
>>4635571 >ricer >>4635571 Anonymous
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>>4635560 Depends on what exactly you pick, but mostly yes, there's always somebody somewhere parting one out and there's usually a specialty shop somewhere for really hard to find shit.
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>>4635608 Yeah i'm mad. Kids like you make me sick..
henry_ford !T/cybz7iao
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>>4635614 and anime-obsessed weeaboos like you make me sick as well.
Anonymous
>>4635601 also
allofcraigs.com comes in handy if you can talk folks into stripping and shipping some stuff you might need. Gotten some stuff that way, but it is a pain in the ass. They either think it's a scam, don't know shit about the car and you have to walk them to whatever part you need, or are just plain stupid. But then again craigslist so what can you expect.
Plenty of online communities for most of these cars and some splinter groups in many of them who enjoy stuffing some oversized engines into shit, and these usually have a classifieds section so that can be a decent source as well.
Newfriend aut/o/tard !!ryTXKwCLN5B
>>4635639 Interesting, I'll check it out. For some reason my state has a shitload of junkyards so roaming around wouldn't kill me. Plus, I can find about 4 examples of most of the cars I've posted.
Newfriend aut/o/tard !!ryTXKwCLN5B
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>>4635660 >examples I mean like, postings on craig's list of each car.
