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Anonymous Mon 17 Nov 2008 05:56:00 No.295013 View View Reply Original Report

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How are the Minolta Maxxum 1.7 Prime lenses? I'm getting sick of the low-light performance of the sony kit lens my a200 shipped with, will 3.5 to 1.7 be a night and day difference in regards to flexibility in lighting?

11Equipment MakeKONICA MINOLTACamera ModelMAXXUM 7DCamera SoftwareMAXXUM 7D v1.10Maximum Lens Aperturef/2.8Focal Length (35mm Equiv)42 mm111Image Created2007:02:21 04:43:46Exposure Time1/8 secF-Numberf/8.0Exposure ProgramAperture PriorityISO Speed Rating400Lens Aperturef/8.0Brightness2 EVExposure Bias0 EVMetering ModeSpotLight SourceUnknownFlashNo Flash, CompulsoryFocal Length28.00 mmRenderingNormalExposure ModeAutoWhite BalanceAutoScene Capture TypeStandardGain ControlLow Gain UpContrastNormalSaturationNormalSharpnessHard1

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Anonymous Mon 17 Nov 2008 05:58:00 No.295017 Report

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inb4 butterfly

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SAGE Mon 17 Nov 2008 06:00:00 No.295020 Report

Quoted By: >>295046

they are the least sharp 50mm in that mount, at least my copy is.

id say its good from f5.6 or so, not great.

try and find the macro f3.5 or f2.8, they are much much sharper.

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Anonymous Mon 17 Nov 2008 06:03:00 No.295023 Report

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Buy it and use it and learn what it can do. A cheap 50mm like that is a classic for everyone to learn on. IT will give you some options you didn't have before and you'll certainly notice it in the resulting images when you experiment.

To be honest I think you should do some reading on what these numbers you are quoting mean, both in theory and in the real world. If you understood them then you wouldn't need to ask such questions! Get the lens though and good luck.

If you're looking for examples and reports on what the lens is like then dpreview and flickr will have endless amounts of them. Just search for the right brand and equipment names.

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Butterfly !xlgRMYva6s Mon 17 Nov 2008 06:03:00 No.295024 Report

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>>295017
fffff

50/1.7 is awesome, bit long for normal use but fucking awesome wide open. Also still should be cheap but since sony only make the 1.4 its not as easy to get as it used to be.

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SAGE Mon 17 Nov 2008 06:04:00 No.295026 Report

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if you want good performance read strobist. the sony flash system is very very flexible with biult in wireless etc

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SAGE Mon 17 Nov 2008 06:06:00 No.295031 Report

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you should read strobist more as well

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SAGE Mon 17 Nov 2008 06:08:00 No.295033 Report

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fucking computer keeps saying flood detected yet the post shows up

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Anonymous Mon 17 Nov 2008 06:18:00 No.295046 Report

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>>295020

OP here, whats a good non-rape price then for those?

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SAGE Mon 17 Nov 2008 06:22:00 No.295053 Report

Quoted By: >>295055

id pay no more than $220 for a f2.8 more for the f3.5 due to its rarity.

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Anonymous Mon 17 Nov 2008 06:23:00 No.295055 Report

Quoted By: >>295071

>>295053

That and check out Google, Keh.com, eBay and compare prices over a few days. That way you'll see the going rate at that time.

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Anonymous Mon 17 Nov 2008 06:46:00 No.295071 Report

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>>295055

Ok, sounds good.

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SAGE Mon 17 Nov 2008 07:01:00 No.295087 Report

Quoted By: >>295098 >>295106 >>295679

heres the 50/1.7 at 5.6 on a tripod. not a high resolution lens

11Camera SoftwareAdobe Photoshop CS3 Windows111Image OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution1200 dpiVertical Resolution1200 dpiImage Created2008:08:27 15:00:28Color Space InformationsRGBImage Width2102Image Height14261

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Anonymous Mon 17 Nov 2008 07:15:00 No.295098 Report

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>>295087
oh lawd that is some bad spherical abberation
i would have guessed that was out of a disposable camera

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Anonymous Mon 17 Nov 2008 07:28:00 No.295106 Report

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>>295087

OP; Holy shit thats bad, thanks for steering me clear.

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SAGE Mon 17 Nov 2008 07:36:00 No.295115 Report

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>>295106
the f1.4 version is a bit better, nothing special compared to the macro versions though. (theres a reason the macro versions cost more new)

the sigma 50/1.4 is very very sharp, but it doesnt render colors as nice, they will look flatter. i dont know why...

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Anonymous Mon 17 Nov 2008 22:34:00 No.295652 Report

Quoted By: >>295655 >>295661 >>295679

i got 40year old super-takumar 50/1.4 instead.
its on m42 mount so u will need m42 to MAF adapter
pros of it are:
+low cost
+sharp like fuck vs kit lens
+its fucking classic
+glass&metal, nice focus ring

cons:
-u got to operate in full manual mode, unless u buy more expensive m42 maf adapter with chip. focusing stays manual, but u will hear the beep when u get focus
-most of em are yellowed a bit, becouse of radioactive thorium in it, still its just a matter of tuning it in ps.

example str8 from a200 [with resizing in ps only] at 1.4
can get ya comparision vs kit lens. its night and day difference in sharpness

11Equipment MakeSONYCamera ModelDSLR-A200Camera SoftwareAdobe Photoshop CS2 WindowsMaximum Lens Aperturef/1.0Focal Length (35mm Equiv)0 mm111Image OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution72 dpiVertical Resolution72 dpiImage Created2008:11:17 18:25:56Exposure Time1/320 secF-Numberf/1.0Exposure ProgramManualISO Speed Rating100Brightness3.9 EVExposure Bias0 EVMetering ModeSpotLight SourceUnknownFlashNo Flash, CompulsoryFocal Length0.00 mmColor Space InformationsRGBImage Width1600Image Height1071RenderingNormalExposure ModeManualWhite BalanceAutoScene Capture TypeStandardContrastNormalSaturationNormalSharpnessNormal1

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Anonymous Mon 17 Nov 2008 22:42:00 No.295655 Report

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>>295652
100%crop
-left-super-takumar 50mm/1.4 @5.6 1/200s iso 400 manual focus [infinity]
-right-kit 18-70 @ 50mm/5.6 1/200s iso 400
auto focus

as i said.. yeah

11Equipment MakeSONYCamera ModelDSLR-A200Camera SoftwareAdobe Photoshop CS2 WindowsMaximum Lens Aperturef/1.0Focal Length (35mm Equiv)0 mm111Image OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution72 dpiVertical Resolution72 dpiImage Created2008:11:17 18:36:24Exposure Time1/200 secF-Numberf/1.0Exposure ProgramManualISO Speed Rating400Brightness1.5 EVExposure Bias0 EVMetering ModeSpotLight SourceUnknownFlashNo Flash, CompulsoryFocal Length0.00 mmColor Space InformationsRGBImage Width1076Image Height399RenderingNormalExposure ModeManualWhite BalanceAutoScene Capture TypeStandardContrastNormalSaturationNormalSharpnessNormal1

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Anonymous Mon 17 Nov 2008 22:49:00 No.295659 Report

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>>295655
Sigma 50mm f1.4 is more expensive, but superior.

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Anonymous Mon 17 Nov 2008 23:01:00 No.295661 Report

Quoted By: >>295668

>>295652
you can fix the yellowing to some degree by leaving the lens out in bright sun with the lens caps off, look it up online

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Anonymous Mon 17 Nov 2008 23:14:00 No.295668 Report

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>>295661
yeah. its winter tho so would take months, gonna w8 till summer

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Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 00:01:00 No.295679 Report

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OP: It means it's able to get you a faster shutter speed in the same light at the same ISO. It isn't nescesarily more flexible, considering f/1.7 doesn't have much depth of field. Depending on your style and what you're trying to do, you might not want to take it much below f/3.5. Or maybe you do want to use absolutely minimal depth of field.

>A cheap 50mm like that is a classic for everyone to learn on
On film, not on digital. Come on. 75mm equivalent is good for some portraits (IMO ~85-90mm is much better, though) and shooting concerts, speeches, etc., but it's not the thing it was on film at all. That's a 35, or again IMO, even better a 28.

>>295087
Resolution per se isn't really all that important. While I wouldn't want to use that as my main fifty- I like sharpness- it seems to have a really smooth rendering that would be great for some styles/subjects. And no, I don't just mean it's soft, I mean that combined with how it handles the tones, etc.

>>295652
This, though, is probably the thing to get. There's better fifties, but none for a price like this. The version marked "Super-Multi-Coated" is supposedly the best, and IIRC doesn't have the radioactive element.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 00:07:00 No.295681 Report

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I've heard wonders of minolta's macros, but the 1.7's price can't be beaten: got one for 80 euros, loving it since then. average wide open, get sharper by f2, perfect form f4/5.6. wonderful for portraits in low light, works well with super steady shot.
pic related.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 00:08:00 No.295684 Report

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>>295681
ops, forgot pic

11Equipment MakeSONYCamera ModelDSLR-A300Camera SoftwareAdobe Photoshop CS3 WindowsFocal Length (35mm Equiv)75 mmMaximum Lens Aperturef/1.7111Image OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution72 dpiVertical Resolution72 dpiImage Created2008:11:17 20:05:04RenderingNormalExposure ModeAutoWhite BalanceManualScene Capture TypeStandardContrastHardSaturationHighSharpnessHardExposure Time1/40 secF-Numberf/1.7Exposure ProgramAperture PriorityISO Speed Rating400Brightness-1/2 EVExposure Bias-0.7 EVMetering ModeSpotLight SourceCool White FluorescentFlashNo Flash, CompulsoryFocal Length50.00 mmColor Space InformationsRGBImage Width812Image Height10001

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