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Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 06:31:00 No.295869 View View Reply Original Report

I need some help.
Buying my first digital SLR soon and need some, well, help.
What does /p/ recommend for a beginner? Also, I am going to get a wide-angle-lens. HELP?!

sunshine

sunshine Tue 18 Nov 2008 06:34:00 No.295871 Report

Quoted By: >>295876 >>295935

Anything BUT a D40, if you're going to buy more lenses for it.

Price range?

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rubber shoes in motion !FwDS1IFr.. Tue 18 Nov 2008 06:36:00 No.295872 Report

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2/10

OP Tue 18 Nov 2008 06:41:00 No.295876 Report

Quoted By: >>295877

>>295871
Something cheaper to start out with.

sunshine

sunshine Tue 18 Nov 2008 06:44:00 No.295877 Report

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>>295876
D80 if you can go for it.
Or go into Canon, but I barely know anything about their prosumers.. other than the fact they don't have gay AF-S on any of them like Nikon.

OP Tue 18 Nov 2008 06:50:00 No.295881 Report

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So, any insight on a lrns then?

OP Tue 18 Nov 2008 06:51:00 No.295882 Report

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>>295869
Sorry, 'lens'* I meant.

Kilz2latex !!3htj9hFDMA4

Kilz2latex !!3htj9hFDMA4 Tue 18 Nov 2008 06:54:00 No.295885 Report

Quoted By: >>295917

look at olympus

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 07:50:00 No.295902 Report

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What are your reasons for wanting a wide angle?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 08:35:00 No.295915 Report

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canon 1000D entry level, cheap, good. i think they come with basic wide angle and distance lenses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 08:39:00 No.295917 Report

Quoted By: >>295923

>>295885
Do not listen to this guy, OP, he's a fucking idiot trying to undermine your acquiring of a satisfying purchase. Avoid olympus like the plague if what you seek is wide angle.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 08:41:00 No.295918 Report

Quoted By: >>295923 >>295932

>> I am going to get a wide-angle-lens

>> look at olympus

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 08:46:00 No.295920 Report

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why does olympus =/= wide angle

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 08:54:00 No.295923 Report

Quoted By: >>295932

>>295917
>>295918

Same and wrongfag. There are seventeen lenses in the Four-Thirds system that go down to wide angle focal lengths, fifteen of them current production.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 09:02:00 No.295932 Report

Quoted By: >>295938

>>295923

oh hai,>>295918here

please name those 15 lenses that go down below 35mm (35mm equivalent), are rectilinear, are under $500

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 09:05:00 No.295935 Report

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>>295871

Truth

D40 blows nuts

Even if you're not going to get more lenses

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 09:14:00 No.295938 Report

Quoted By: >>295941 >>295945

>>295932

There's several 18mm starting lenses, which are also wide. So:

Sigma 18-50, $139
Olympus 14-42, $229.95
Olympus 18-180, $382.95 (has to be shit, though, to be fair)
Olympus 14-54, $389.95
Sigma 18-50 f/2.8, $419

There's a few more in the ~$600 range, and if someone can afford a $500 lens they can afford a $600 one.

Source for this was B&H's listing of new prices, source for the other count was the Four-Thirds website.

Why $500, though? Unless you're looking and it's your budget, it's a pretty arbitrary limit.

Also all the kit zooms would start wide, but there could be duplication with that list.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 09:27:00 No.295941 Report

Quoted By: >>295944

>>295938
18mm on Olympus is 36mm equivalent FoV which isn't really wide at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 09:30:00 No.295944 Report

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>>295941
A) Yes it is; 35mm is definitely wide and this is just a millimeter more, and it's not like it's at the crazy wide end where a millimeter is drastic. <40mm = wide.
B) Even if you are going to make 35mm on 3:2 the cutoff, the extra vertical room on 4:3 means that 18mm on Four-Thirds is probably more like 35mm than 36.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 09:37:00 No.295945 Report

Quoted By: >>295946

>>295938Why $500, though? Unless you're looking and it's your budget, it's a pretty arbitrary limit.

because anything wider on olympus is exponentially more expensive

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 09:41:00 No.295946 Report

Quoted By: >>295953

>>295945
see
>There's a few more in the ~$600 range, and if someone can afford a $500 lens they can afford a $600 one.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 09:46:00 No.295950 Report

Quoted By: >>295954 >>295959

I'm in the same boat as you OP.

After about a week of intensive research I'm pretty much set on a Nikon D300. For all the lenses And extras I want I'm going to be paying about $1400.

As far as I can see it's the best I can get without going full frame: a format that nearly doubles the cost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 09:58:00 No.295953 Report

Quoted By: >>295957

>>295946

i don't think you know what exponentially means

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 10:00:00 No.295954 Report

Quoted By: >>295956

>>295950For all the lenses And extras I want I'm going to be paying about $1400.

lol wut, link to $14000 D300 with lenses and extras

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 10:14:00 No.295956 Report

Quoted By: >>295960

>>295954
Here's a kit on Ebay I like for $1500 :
http://cgi.ebay.com/Nikon-D300-Digital-SLR-Camera-2-VR-Lens-8GB-Kit-USA_W0QQitemZ350127200116QQcmdZV
iewItemQQptZDigital_Cameras?hash=item350127200116&_trksid=p4295.c0.m299&_trkparms=240:1318

Buying the stuff separate from other retailers, and dropping the shit I don't want (like the magazine subscription) I can save another hundred.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 10:15:00 No.295957 Report

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>>295953
the cost is infinite. duh

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 10:16:00 No.295959 Report

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>>295950
Enjoy being scammed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 10:16:00 No.295960 Report

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>>295956
That includes a battery clip/bottom grip too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 10:19:00 No.295962 Report

Quoted By: >>295984

>>295959
I'll be buying it all credit card. If it's not legit I'll just refute the charges.
It's called "consumer protection".

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 11:43:00 No.295984 Report

Quoted By: >>295991

>>295962
Nevermind, you're just getting shit lenses with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 12:21:00 No.295991 Report

Quoted By: >>295997

>>295984
What's wrong with them? They're not kit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 12:45:00 No.295997 Report

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>>295991
Yes they are. It's a waste putting a $150 zoom lens on a D300. You'd be better off with a D80/90 and a better lens. Also, that ebay camera is a demo so who knows what it's been through.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 12:46:00 No.295999 Report

Quoted By: >>296002

cameta is legit. i've bought there.

the d300 is wonderful.

those lenses aren't pro quality, so i assume that is why some people are sticking up their noses. but if you just want a really good camera and some lenses to cover most necessary ranges and start with, it's a fine kit.

the mags and stuff are bullshit.

the one thing i'd mention is that this is a factory demo camera, so be very careful that it's clean and works.

you'll need more cards and batteries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 12:53:00 No.296002 Report

Quoted By: >>296014 >>296084

>>295999
There's nothing wrong with cheap lenses. It just doesn't make sense to put them on a nice body like the D300. It's putting the cart before the horse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 14:17:00 No.296014 Report

Quoted By: >>296084

>>296002
QFT, if your gonna get a d300 at least get some nice lenses.

or just get a lower model and get nicer lenses.

its all very well having 12mp or whatever it is, but if the lenses cant resolve decent 12mp images then its pointless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 14:43:00 No.296019 Report

Quoted By: >>296021 >>296022

motherfuckers need to just put the maximum and minimum FoV in some sort of angle measurement (I would prefer radians b/c I'm a mathfag but i really wouldn't give a shit if degrees were given. now that I think about it, degrees would probably be better b/c all the lenses won't be at nice incriments. For instance, 35.6 degrees would be a bitch to express in radians) </avoidradiansversusdegreesshitstorm>

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 14:50:00 No.296021 Report

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>>296019

Now I remember why people like us were beaten up at school. God damn you need to get out more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 15:03:00 No.296022 Report

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>>296019
but then again, if it were expressed in radians, it would be much easier to determine the length of an in-focus object. however, if one is going to the trouble of determining the length of an in-focus object, an extra conversion isn't much trouble.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 16:30:00 No.296034 Report

Quoted By: >>296081 >>296452

Nikon d40, kit lens, Sigma 10-20.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 17:39:00 No.296049 Report

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>>295869
yup, I got my D50 from Cameta. I recommend them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 19:10:00 No.296081 Report

Quoted By: >>296154

>>296034
That Sigma is f/4-5.6

Isn't that a little high?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 19:12:00 No.296084 Report

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>>296014
>>296002
Can you reccoment a good, lower-apeture lens? Maybe just a brand?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 22:22:00 No.296154 Report

Quoted By: >>296155

>>296081That Sigma is f/4-5.6

that's including crop factor, so in reality, it's f/2.6-3.7

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 Nov 2008 22:23:00 No.296155 Report

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>>296154
10/10, awesome troll is awesome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Nov 2008 09:04:00 No.296452 Report

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>>296034

if you have a d40 you are a soccer mom

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Anonymous Thu 20 Nov 2008 19:51:00 No.297524 Report

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Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Nov 2008 22:11:00 No.297626 Report

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