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Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2008 11:59:00 No.299586 View View Reply Original Report

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comment/crit. lighting was a bit tough, but i think it came out fairly decent.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2008 12:11:00 No.299597 Report

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Perspective is nice, and I think it really captures the moment. I like it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2008 12:16:00 No.299601 Report

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this is a good shot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2008 12:25:00 No.299606 Report

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get rid of the black stuff on top, clone the blue wall

wall line is on a slant

looks too flat, there is no depth at all to the colors

shot itself is boring except there's a cool pose, 5/10 overall

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2008 12:26:00 No.299607 Report

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>>299606
Completely missing the point of this picture.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2008 12:31:00 No.299611 Report

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>>299607Completely missing the point of this picture.

okay, if the point of the picture is a snapshot, then yes i completely missed the point because it's a snapshot and i shouldn't critique it as a photo

but please explain how i am off in what i said

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2008 12:45:00 No.299620 Report

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the pose is nice and all but the light is flat and boring. go steal the flash from that guy in the other thread and use it to make some interesting light. maybe some cool shadows on the wall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2008 12:46:00 No.299622 Report

Quoted By: >>299627 >>299632

the black bit at the top gives the photo balance, and excentuates the difference between the geometric shapes in the background with the human form. it also gives it better location it comes of more as a ballet dancer practicing without the cliche bar and mirrors, rather than dancer infront of plain white wall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2008 12:51:00 No.299627 Report

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>>299622the black bit at the top gives the photo balance, and excentuates the difference between the geometric shapes in the background with the human form. it also gives it better location it comes of more as a ballet dancer practicing without the cliche bar and mirrors, rather than dancer infront of plain white wall.

excentuates isn't a word

there are no geometric shapes in the background

and somehow a blue wall magically made it better than the "cliche bar and mirrors" and "plain white wall"?

man, some of you have no taste at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2008 12:52:00 No.299629 Report

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>>299611

eat a dick, fucking pretentious self righteous faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2008 12:53:00 No.299632 Report

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>>299622
lol this is bs though, but i dont think it's OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2008 12:59:00 No.299635 Report

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>>299629eat a dick, fucking pretentious self righteous faggot

so, i'm going to assume you're trolling here or have nothing to say to defend the photo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2008 13:15:00 No.299643 Report

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I think this photo really conveys the "practice makes perfect" ideal. it's as if she's at the studio late at night, perfecting her performance, doing what she loves, imagining herself in the limelight or some shit.

The cool, calm, and casual atmosphere with soft ambient light and lone dancer really bring a "real life" side to the image, as opposed to being a dancer all done up in costume, on stage with bright lights and scenery.

Had there been lights and backdrops it would've just been another "oh hay a dancer" pic, instead of revealing what goes on before the show.

else !L6xabslN96

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else !L6xabslN96 Mon 24 Nov 2008 13:17:00 No.299644 Report

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well, i'd say the lighting is actually perfect for use as stock photography. as an independent photo, it's pretty boring but i remember trying desperately to look for photos like this one on free stock photography sites to use in my visual design assignments.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2008 13:20:00 No.299648 Report

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>>299643

those are all great excuses for a snapshot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2008 13:26:00 No.299652 Report

Quoted By: >>299660 >>299689

>>299648
it's a snapshot which captures a candid moment, so to me, it's a great snapshot photo.

not sure if this was dickery or semi-dickery

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Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2008 13:37:00 No.299660 Report

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>>299652
what you are saying makes sense and i have taken photos like this as well. while these can be satisfying to you they usually are just crap to everyone else. usually the problem is photographer failure. in this case you have failed to capture the feeling you felt/wanted.

i still say kill those overhead lights and use off camera flash. you would have gotten far more interesting results.

Jeremo !iKGMr61IHM

Jeremo !iKGMr61IHM Mon 24 Nov 2008 13:53:00 No.299671 Report

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Someone gimme an acceptable definition of snapshot and photograph.

I'm intrigued, those two are concepts that get thrown around but never expanded beyond a flicker of trollistic angst.

Oh girl is well hot, i'd show her my en pointe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2008 13:55:00 No.299675 Report

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>>299660
I'm not OP and I would've used an off-camera flash as well, just offering my opinion on the photo because snapshots aren't always shit.

I didn't say that it was the best way to capture the moment, just commenting on what it is for what it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2008 13:57:00 No.299676 Report

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I dunno.. my definition would be if it sort of looks like you could've gotten it from luck or spray-and-pray, then it's a snapshot.

If it looks like it has a hint of careful planning, then it's a photograph?

But I guess you can get good snapshots, soooo it would be a subdivision of a photograph. Except a photograph is better.

fuuuuu

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2008 14:00:00 No.299678 Report

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>>299671
I define a snapshot as going "oh hey this looks like a cool pic" *snap*

I define a photo as anything that has some pre-meditation, and usually some effort into setting up the final shot (possibly lights, backdrops)

This looks as if the photographer is another dancer or something who happened to have a camera and snapped a pic while the girl was dancing despite probably being a shot that was set up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2008 14:06:00 No.299681 Report

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>>299678

So everything with a setup not looking real is a "real" photo?

Fuck you. I like snapshots then.

else !L6xabslN96

else !L6xabslN96 Mon 24 Nov 2008 14:13:00 No.299685 Report

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>>299678
>This looks as if the photographer is another dancer or something who happened to have a camera and snapped a pic while the girl was dancing despite probably being a shot that was set up.

no it doesn't. if it was a snapshot, the dancer wouldn't be posing perfectly and the shot wouldn't have been framed off-center. and it would probably not have been as straight.

it's definitely not a snapshot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2008 14:17:00 No.299689 Report

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>>299681
i never said snapshots can't be good "photos"

>>299652is me as well

shots taken by a photojournalist aren't necessarily snapshots because his or her purpose is to take pictures of whatever he's documenting, so even though he's not setting up the image, he's there to document.

if you're walking home from work and happen past something cool then you've taken a snapshot, but that pic could very well be awesome if you've got a good eye.

this is how i see it anyways, i never thought of pictures as "photos" or "snapshots" until this thread actually

>>299685
so you mean that every day people can't have a good eye for framing? that's fairly pretentious.

else !L6xabslN96

sage

else !L6xabslN96 Mon 24 Nov 2008 14:23:00 No.299693 Report

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>>299689
i regard a snapshot as only making sure the subjects are in the frame when taking a pic. also, taken spontaneously/impromptu. anything more is a photo.

now you're assuming that everyday people ONLY take snapshots. that's even more pretentious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2008 15:14:00 No.299705 Report

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god this thread makes me regret getting into photography

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falsedust !!ncbmwyNcszp Mon 24 Nov 2008 15:41:00 No.299707 Report

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I like it, for me the only minor gripe is just the angle of the floor. If it's just a snap shot then it's great, but for a series of work just go back and reshoot it but change the camera height to avoid the black ceiling. :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2008 16:23:00 No.299713 Report

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just post more pics of her. this board will become calm and sedate. our minds will be numb and wiped clean. then we will probably take a nap

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Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2008 18:04:00 No.299732 Report

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op here

tyvm for the crit.

black was left on purpose, a little more planning went into this than a snapshot would merit.

working on getting better lights as well.

I didn't want to change the height of the shot, it would have changed the "long look" of her limbs she was trying to hit.

one more from the same day, not the same quality, but what ever. i didn't try for insta art, but it sorta has that feel.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2008 18:35:00 No.299740 Report

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>>299732
Couldn't be bothered to read all the replies.
This shot has the potential to be nice.
It's ruined by the flat lighting and the background though.
Use a shallower DOF or off camera flash to bring the person out more.

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Project !dashI8UpO. Mon 24 Nov 2008 19:35:00 No.299754 Report

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As I know it, snapshots are photos (yes, a snapshot is a kind of photo) taken spontaneously by reacting to something. Spraying your camera around on continuous does not produce snapshots. Seeing a child do something interesting and reacting quickly with your camera will produce a snapshot.

Since there is no formal definition of "snapshot" or a way to measure the "amount of preparation" before a shot, it's pointless to try and strictly categorize shots and I'm sure we all agree that there are such things as good snapshots. Henri Cartier Bresson for example.

As for OP photo, it lacks detail around her legs. I can interchange her thighs and calves and imagine her having a knee joint and a hoof similar to a goat on one leg. It's also too cool. It feels laid back even though it seems the photo wants me to feel movement. Here's my take on it but your lighting made her thighs lighten up in a bad way.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2008 22:13:00 No.299783 Report

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>>299685no it doesn't. if it was a snapshot, the dancer wouldn't be posing perfectly

give me a camera that has unlimited buffer and shoots at 10 FPS and i'll get that perfect pose

>> and the shot wouldn't have been framed off-center.

wow, are you serious? it's called cropping

>> and it would probably not have been as straight.

oh god, he is serious.. it's called rotating the frame

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2008 05:12:00 No.300022 Report

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>> 299754

i see what you mean about the flat lighting, thanks for the heads up.

in your revision, the black line goes through her leg, but maybe thats payback for leaving the black at the top from before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Nov 2008 23:16:00 No.301225 Report

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She's pretty

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