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DXO - Image Quality Database

Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2008 15:16:00 No.300404 View View Reply Original Report

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http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/eng/Image-Quality-Database

DxO Labs’ Image Quality Database (IQ Database) allows you to access a large set of image quality measurements that DxO Labs has performed on more than 30 commercial digital cameras. (We will regularly update this section with additional performance data for other commercial products as they become available.) The DxOMark Sensor scale and its three constituent metrics shown in the DxOMark section aggregate the full set of measurement data from the IQ Database.
Select a camera to visualize its image quality performance data in detail. You can also select more than one camera to make comparisons between models.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2008 15:29:00 No.300407 Report

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Interesting site, lurking it now, the comparisons are quiet interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2008 16:57:00 No.300429 Report

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I assume low light ISO higher = better?

else !L6xabslN96

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else !L6xabslN96 Tue 25 Nov 2008 17:36:00 No.300447 Report

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why is the D40 pictured silver!??!?!?

Project !dashI8UpO.

Project !dashI8UpO. Tue 25 Nov 2008 17:43:00 No.300451 Report

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>>300447
Because Nikon has sexier silver than Canon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2008 23:40:00 No.300573 Report

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I never said I cared more about what I look like while shooting rather than what my photos would look like. It's not as if the gold paint or the metallic look or the plasticky look will actually affect my photographs technically but feeling good while shooting will. It's easier to take photos in a good mood and in confidence.

I wouldn't buy a D60 either or pay extra for the gold design but if presented with choice a few months ago between a Silver D80 or a Black D80, both with equal price, I'd have taken the Silver one.

NatureGuy !se3A3TwzdY

NatureGuy !se3A3TwzdY Tue 25 Nov 2008 23:51:00 No.300581 Report

Quoted By: >>300609

Surprising how well the 30D measures up to the 40D and 50D... Looks like I'll be waiting longer to upgrade than I had originally thought. The 5D still bends it over the barrel though, we'll have to see how well the 5DII does.

Depressed Cheesecake !wFh1Fw9wBU

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Depressed Cheesecake !wFh1Fw9wBU Tue 25 Nov 2008 23:53:00 No.300582 Report

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>>300451
oh hi

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tizzou !!HuouSd+PYUs Wed 26 Nov 2008 00:02:00 No.300588 Report

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>>300582

no u!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Nov 2008 00:23:00 No.300609 Report

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>>300581
Same here about upgrading. I just got into DSLR photography last year and bought a XTi(400D). I was thinking of upgrading to a 40D after xmas, but now that I see how close they actually compare I think I will just use the $1000 towards some nice new glass etc..

Martin !!ve2Q1ETWmJH

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Martin !!ve2Q1ETWmJH Wed 26 Nov 2008 00:25:00 No.300611 Report

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>>300588
hush son

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Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Nov 2008 00:26:00 No.300612 Report

Quoted By: >>300614 >>300615

Wow the 20D kills the D70 on there... :/ How did the D70 do so poorly...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Nov 2008 00:28:00 No.300614 Report

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>>300612

Because Nikon hasn't made great cameras before the D300?

NatureGuy !se3A3TwzdY

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NatureGuy !se3A3TwzdY Wed 26 Nov 2008 00:29:00 No.300615 Report

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>>300612
20D was made before people the lolsumers really had started buying cameras. So the camera was made to be good and not to have fancy looking numbers and mega pickles. The look at the 40D vs the 50D, they're practically the same camera, but one has more megapixels. The 40D is a good camera, but in its price range it has the least pixels so canon made the 50D to compete with the lol megapixel consumer market.

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Anonymous Wed 26 Nov 2008 00:32:00 No.300618 Report

Quoted By: >>300681

HAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAH, oh fucking god

good job, Sony, really good job

BurtGummer !!RRMHFHglFsy

BurtGummer !!RRMHFHglFsy Wed 26 Nov 2008 00:39:00 No.300623 Report

Quoted By: >>300630

D80 vs D90... wow is the D90 really that much better? I see they cured the shitty ISO problem too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Nov 2008 00:40:00 No.300626 Report

Quoted By: >>300640 >>300645

This site has gotten me worried about the D70 I am buying...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Nov 2008 00:44:00 No.300630 Report

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>>300623

because it's a CMOS, you fucking retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Nov 2008 00:56:00 No.300640 Report

Quoted By: >>300647

>>300626
This further reinforces the fact that most tests on the internet are useful only for e-penis measurement. People have been shooting with D70s without any problems for years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Nov 2008 01:02:00 No.300645 Report

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>>300626
Please don't tell me that you are comparing a camera that has been discontinued since 2006 to midrange cameras that are recently released...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Nov 2008 01:03:00 No.300647 Report

Quoted By: >>300657

>>300640
D70s or D70's? I'm still going to buy it but I can't beleive it's at the bottom of nearly every category on that site.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Nov 2008 01:07:00 No.300655 Report

Quoted By: >>300658 >>300659

You should look into the Nikon D80 or Canon 20D or 30D if you want "prosumer" control at the price of today's entry level.

However, when you step backwards again to the D70, you're probably better off with today's entry level at the same price. Image quality will be leaps better, but you lose out on control.

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Anonymous Wed 26 Nov 2008 01:12:00 No.300657 Report

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>>300647
There isn't much difference between D70 and D70s in image quality. Yeah, both of them are a bit noisy, but don't go over ISO 800 and you'll be fine. As for other DxO tests, do these fractions of a stop really matter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Nov 2008 01:15:00 No.300658 Report

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>>300655
>Image quality will be leaps better

O RLY? For example, Nikon D40 has exactly the same sensor as D70, just with a few tweaks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Nov 2008 01:19:00 No.300659 Report

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>>300655
I am currently using a Fujifilm S5700 so it's a step forward to any DSLR. Also I found a D70 for 350$ in quite good condition, 5800ish actuations with two lenses and other assorted accessories.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Nov 2008 01:26:00 No.300665 Report

Quoted By: >>300687

>>300658

>> today's entry level

As in new from this year or maybe last year. The D40 may still sell but it's not new by any way, if you know what I mean.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Nov 2008 01:56:00 No.300681 Report

Quoted By: >>300686

>>300618

the d700 and a900 are for completely different things.

much like the 1dsmkwhatever and D3 are for different things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Nov 2008 02:04:00 No.300686 Report

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>>300681

sonyfag sure is butthurt

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Anonymous Wed 26 Nov 2008 02:05:00 No.300687 Report

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>>300665
Well, then you'll get some more megapickles and maybe half a stop less noise if you're lucky.

else !L6xabslN96

else !L6xabslN96 Wed 26 Nov 2008 02:35:00 No.300705 Report

Quoted By: >>300709 >>300725

great, now everyone will be comparing dslrs like they're graphics cards or something. benchmarking their dynamic range and fps. fucking rage... it's all arbitrary statistics and doesn't make a noticeable difference in the real world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Nov 2008 02:38:00 No.300709 Report

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>>300705

says the guy with the Nikon D40

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Nov 2008 03:01:00 No.300725 Report

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>>300705
>it's all arbitrary statistics and doesn't make a noticeable difference in the real world.
OK bro. Stop right there. Take the brick you have up your ass and take a seat before you hurt yourself.

Why don't you explain your bullshit statement, so I don't have to type a long ass rebuke. Arbitrary?

else !L6xabslN96

sage

else !L6xabslN96 Wed 26 Nov 2008 03:27:00 No.300731 Report

Quoted By: >>301428 >>301464

>>300725
if you compare a photo taken twice with a d40x and then a 400d, without looking at the EXIF, would you be able to tell which photo belongs to which camera? i think not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Nov 2008 02:44:00 No.301344 Report

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Wha?

Why so many?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Nov 2008 05:31:00 No.301428 Report

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>>300731

You sure are butthurt about buying a D40 and trying to justify getting such a poor purchase.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Nov 2008 05:48:00 No.301430 Report

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lol wat. According to this thing d90 > d300?

fence !!POey2hdozCZ

fence !!POey2hdozCZ Thu 27 Nov 2008 06:10:00 No.301440 Report

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>>301430

sure, why not? same sensor, plus a year's worth of better algorithms. the difference is barely discernible (probably invisible without test equipment), but it's there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Nov 2008 06:11:00 No.301441 Report

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>>301440

First of all, not the same sensor.

Second, the D300 is 14-bit and should have an advtange there already even if it was the same sensor, which it is not.

Third, I don't know why the D90 scored higher.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Nov 2008 06:36:00 No.301464 Report

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>>300731
This is absolutely correct. This information is a good thing, I'm glad it's there. But in the current climate it's going to have a negative effect; it's important to understand the technical aspects of whatever you're doing, but there's also the need for the perspective to just say "fuck it." People don't have the latter, and it's going to shit up the climate. It's like, look, T-Max 400 has finer grain than Tri-X. But T-Max has shit tones, something you can't quantify, and Tri-X is, well, legendary.

It's the same thing, incidentally, with sensors, lenses, etc. Remember back a few years ago when people talked about "Olympus Color," supposedly more realistic color from Olympus DSLRs and compacts? (I never saw it, but all this is subjective.) Or how people just seemed (and seem) to like the files from the 5D, in ways you can't put down to the larger sensor alone? Or how the famous "glow" of Leica glass, usually lower-resolution than Zeiss. Something else I've just tended to see personally is that Canon sensors tend to have less noise overall, but when they do have it tends more to banding than other brands. That's not quantifiable either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Nov 2008 06:36:00 No.301465 Report

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>>301464

Here's an article by Mike Johnston, basically talking about the same thing with lenses:

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-02-09-22.shtml

TL;DR you don't need a glowing Leica lens to take a good picture [,or by extension a noiseless D3].

There was a discussion a few days ago about knowing the sharpest aperture of your lens, etc. Someone said he did, someone came back at him with the gearfag line of insults, and so on. Everyone should know how their lens behaves at different apertures, that's just basic technical craft knowledge. Same with the noise, DR, and color charateristics of their sensors. But instead of being a gearfag and getting tied down to that, just know it, and use or ignore it as needed to do what you want to do.

Unfortunately, that takes a little perspective and creativity, which most people just don't have and don't care enough to put in the effort to get it.

More relevant Mike Johnston:

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-may-05.shtml

(Scroll down to "getting past it" for the relevancy.)

And in the end, if you really care so much about getting the best technical image quality and you're shooting anything but sheet film, you're just fucking kidding yourself and you should either buy a view or a press camera or get over it.

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