/po/ - Papercraft & Origami

So, were these ever built as 3d models at any point?

I know that at one point somebody was working on rendering ambient-occlusion textures for at least one of these designs to up the 'realism' of the look of the templates. If there are 3d models of these existing I'd like to try my hand at some realistic texturing...

...so...any 3d files out there?

Newobmij

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Newobmij Wed 27 Apr 2011 02:13:00 No.428953 Report

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>>428947
I never used 3d for any of my designs, but I did use 2d vector software. I think B&Hammer used parts of the vector template to recreate the model in 3d, which is backwards from the way most papercaft is created. I've not touched 3d software myself since playing around with an old copy of Truespace back in 1996.

DLMyst

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DLMyst Wed 27 Apr 2011 05:49:00 No.428976 Report

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>>428943
agreed!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 08:38:00 No.428980 Report

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I'm curious about your process. Do you draw templates and cut them out, or do you freestyle it and make templates from that?

I'm also curious about the joint system you have working with the legs...have you considered trying to add more articulation (and 'posability'?)

Newobmij

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Newobmij Wed 27 Apr 2011 10:13:00 No.428990 Report

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>>428980
At this scale, articulation would be too tedious for most people. I have a fully articulated robot for Flipit, but that's about four times as tall as the Arbeiter for Unlimit3d. If you're wanting to add miniature articulation yourself, there are a few techniques to do it.
I design models using a 3-up system. After sketching up how I want a model to look, I do a top, side and front view of the model in Corel, making sure all the measurements are uniform in all 3 drawings. Surfaces that are facing one of the views at 90 degrees are going to be the exact same size in the template, while surfaces at angles will have to be stretched to match the distance of the angle. For rounded surfaces you use pi (3.141...) and determine the angle of the circle visible. For instance, if you have 90 degrees of a 3" diameter circle you would multiply pi times 3 then divide by 4 (since 90 is 1/4 of 360). Some of it is easier to show as opposed to explain. If you play around with geometry and paper modelling enough, it'll come to you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Apr 2011 00:10:00 No.429129 Report

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is there any instructions for building unlimit3d templates?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Apr 2011 22:41:00 No.429209 Report

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good job, keep it up, i'm making a few of these..even if i'm new to papercrafting i LOVE these things... it's a cheap and funny hobby! i'd love extra weapons to add to my models!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Apr 2011 22:42:00 No.429210 Report

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>>429209

Yeah some kind of customization would be epic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Apr 2011 22:47:00 No.429211 Report

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>>429210

yup. i mean, i've NEVER played warhammer40k due to the price of the models (especially here in italy) and i think this is perfect: cheap and funny (building the models is awesome!) i'm gonna try this with a friend in a week or two. Having a website/facebook page/whatever would be awesome too.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Apr 2011 23:04:00 No.429213 Report

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Here it is! Arbeteir Prime..made in about a day (first work of papercrafting lol)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Apr 2011 23:05:00 No.429214 Report

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>>429211

Dimmi dove abiti che facciamo una partita.

Anyway, i've heard someone was going to make a site or something in the summer :DDD

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2011 04:10:00 No.429236 Report

Quoted By: >>429238 >>429242

I wonder what the best way to do customizable weapons is. Certainly they can be done as alternate weapons that can be glued on instead of the existing weapons, that's pretty straightforward (beyond having to design the weapons in the first place).

I wonder if a 'mount point' system could be devised that would let you swap out weapons 'on the fly' or between games (like you'd do with a 40k model by magnetizing the weapons). For instance, you could make a little cube/box that you glue to the model as the mount-point, and engineer the weapon models to slip over the mounting cube. Perhaps you could use a little remountable glue (like the stuff on post-it notes) to make the pieces stick more securely. Or some paper tabs that secure to the model.

I'll prototype something when I get the chance...what does /po/ think?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2011 04:14:00 No.429238 Report

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>>429236

That if your prototypes succeed, you are awesome. Maybe the cube thingy could work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2011 05:07:00 No.429242 Report

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>>429236
why are you trying to re-invent the wheel? seems like the very magnets that work for warhammer, would also work in this case. or if the models are built with thin enough paper, you could just cut up some cheap fridge magnets. a lot cheaper than rare-earth magnets.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2011 05:20:00 No.429244 Report

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why don't make "holes" in with you can fit weapons like in this minecraft template for the pickaxe? only with the difference that inside that white zone you have to insert a cube connected to the weapon...(sorry for the bad english, but i'm terribly tired)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2011 05:30:00 No.429246 Report

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>>429244

oh god i've an awful english. i meant "why don't we make an hole in which a little cube (glued to a weapon) can fit easily?"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2011 06:40:00 No.429253 Report

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>>429242
I'm trying to think of how to do swappable weapons that can be done with just paper. I really like the idea that you can put together some nice looking miniatures for tabletop wargaming (or just displaying) without having to buy a lot of stuff. Magnets aren't _that_ expensive, but a printed sheet of paper is cheaper still.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2011 06:45:00 No.429254 Report

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>>429244
That's kind of what I was thinking, but in reverse. The models have a nice stability being made of lots of boxes...cutting holes in them to add weapons seems like it might make them less 'solid'. I was thinking of gluing the 'mounting box' on where the weapon would go, and then having the 'real weapon' slide over the box like a sleeve. That way the main body would stay solid, and the weapons (once added) would also be solid.

So. Talk is cheap. I'll make one and show you.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2011 17:26:00 No.429302 Report

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>>429254

go for it. you're awesome. XD

meanwhile, just finished a bloodhound.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2011 21:09:00 No.429307 Report

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>>429302

aaaand a spectre

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