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[1395172452] Chinese room is unscientific trash

Anonymous Tue 18 Mar 2014 23:54:00 No.957985 View View Reply Original Report

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If an AI appears to be conscious in every observable way, then why would it matter how it accomplishes that? Keep bullshit kike philosophical circlejerking like this out of computer science.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Mar 2014 23:59:00 No.957986 Report

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hax my anus

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Anonymous Wed 19 Mar 2014 01:10:00 No.957988 Report

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Well, there isn't an AI that is concious in an observable way. We need to first understand whether it is even possible, or whether we are even concious

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Anonymous Wed 19 Mar 2014 01:16:00 No.957989 Report

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>>3
I am conscious, not sure about you.

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Anonymous Wed 19 Mar 2014 02:18:00 No.957992 Report

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>>4
>le pedophile philosophical zombie allegations

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Anonymous Wed 19 Mar 2014 03:42:00 No.957995 Report

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I am not currently conscious, will someone please wake me up?

L. A. Calculus !!wKyoNUUHDOmjW7I

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L. A. Calculus !!wKyoNUUHDOmjW7I Wed 19 Mar 2014 04:50:00 No.957998 Report

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U CAN STILL IMPLEMENT 8-BIT ADDRESSING ON SYSTEMS WITH CHAR_BIT > 8.

DA DIFFERENCE IS DAT DA BURDEN IS PLACED ON DA C IMPLEMENTER, NOT DA C PROGRAMMER (WHICH IS WHERE DA BURDEN IS PLACED BY DA STANDARD).

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Anonymous Wed 19 Mar 2014 04:51:00 No.957999 Report

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O FUCK YOU FORCHAN

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Anonymous Wed 19 Mar 2014 04:53:00 No.958001 Report

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>>7,8
EPIC FAIL

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Anonymous Wed 19 Mar 2014 09:17:00 No.958015 Report

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I agree that it is overused by people who don't really understand to claim that strong AI is impossible in principle, but that shouldn't diminish it's usefulness as a thought experiment when used correctly.

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Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 19:42:00 No.958070 Report

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I've never heard the position that strong AI was impossible in principle argued from anything other than a religious stand point (cumpooter caint haf sowl), and even that was in philosophy 101. Who does this from a CS background?

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2014 05:41:00 No.958223 Report

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The analogy claims that the computer, like the english-speaker in the chinese room, only obeys instructions, without understanding what they mean or what they accomplish.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2014 07:36:00 No.958226 Report

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Those old raisings at CSAIL should read their SICP at least once.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2014 07:47:00 No.958227 Report

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>>12
Fairly sure everyone knows that, dipshit. I claim that it's a meaningless thought experiment. If all empirical evidence claims that it has some property then it is simpleminded mysticism.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Mar 2014 08:59:00 No.958275 Report

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What if we take the human mind as the room?

There are lots of little people (cells) which know little of the world outside, and they follow instructions without understanding what they mean or accomplish, that somehow ends up as (hopefully) intelligible output?

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Anonymous Mon 24 Mar 2014 09:19:00 No.958279 Report

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Maybe intelligence is the ability to learn / adapt ?

If some being/thing knew everything, it's intelligence might become static, such that it might never answer the same question differently, since it would never learn anything new?

It would be very clever but still unintelligent?

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Anonymous Mon 24 Mar 2014 10:17:00 No.958281 Report

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>>16
I think that intelligence would be a prerequisite for cleverness.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Mar 2014 10:28:00 No.958282 Report

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>>17

So intelligent but not clever?

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Anonymous Mon 24 Mar 2014 14:46:00 No.958291 Report

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>>17
My cat is clever because she knows that if she waits until I leave, she can tear up the furniture, but she is still so unintelligent that she can't catch the laser pointer.

My dog is intelligent because she can bark the number of times corresponding to the number of fingers I hold up on one hand. She is not clever because she still thinks I like it when she leaves dead shit in my bed, despite punishing that behavior.

My goldfish is not clever because he cannot figure out that the glass is solid no matter how often he runs against it. Nor is he intelligent because he hasn't even figured out how not to die every two months.

My gimp is clever because he figured out that I would beat him if he didn't call me Master Princess Hime-sama whenever speaking after only a few times. He is also intelligent because he did all the homework for my GED for me.

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Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:48:00 No.958393 Report

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>>14

It has implications for security. I've heard it argued by cryptoanalysts that if the output of the translation is transmitted from one part of the stack to another, and it does so consistently, then the message isn't secure. The binary output can be visualized, inspected, and probabilistically reconstructed.

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Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 03:21:00 No.958400 Report

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It's a neat thought experiment because it illustrates both how a series of dumb steps can be used to create a very smart component, and how a very smart component can be used to perform a series of dumb step.

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Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 03:45:00 No.958401 Report

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pedodubs

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Anonymous Thu 27 Mar 2014 01:29:00 No.958439 Report

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>>22
>le pedophile sage

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Anonymous Thu 27 Mar 2014 05:10:00 No.958460 Report

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>>23
>le /pedorider/ admin

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Anonymous Thu 27 Mar 2014 05:24:00 No.958464 Report

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>>24
>le pedophile criticism

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Anonymous Thu 27 Mar 2014 05:48:00 No.958468 Report

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>>25
I don't understand. Is that like feminist literary criticism?

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Anonymous Thu 27 Mar 2014 07:38:00 No.958472 Report

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Yes, but it rejects the Marxist theory that all are equal and the idea that individual narratives and consent matter. It's also post-postmodern, which oddly makes more sense.

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Anonymous Thu 27 Mar 2014 07:57:00 No.958474 Report

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>>25
>le /pedorider/ admin

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Anonymous Thu 27 Mar 2014 17:49:00 No.958496 Report

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>>28
>le pedophile criticism

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Anonymous Fri 28 Mar 2014 06:06:00 No.958542 Report

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>>28,29
You guys are just turning into tsknigger now.

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Anonymous Fri 28 Mar 2014 07:46:00 No.958544 Report

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*african-american

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