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Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 12:57:00 No.14731825 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14731864 >>14732292 >>14732379 >>14732388 >>14732461 >>14732574

Hey /tg/, /v/ here. Quick question for you: just how tough is a Space Marine's skull? I've heard that they're damn near bullet proof, so what kind of round would it take to penetrate their head? I'm talking in terms of real life weaponry, not 40K weapons.

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Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 13:02:00 No.14731860 Report

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bigger than a .50 cal

Zangief !!YG0uo46UrxQ

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Zangief !!YG0uo46UrxQ Wed 27 Apr 2011 13:03:00 No.14731864 Report

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>>14731825

Any gun will do, a bow and arrow would work too

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 13:06:00 No.14731885 Report

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A Space Marine's skull cannot be penetrated unless he is wearing a helmet.

Realistically, though, a .50 should do it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 13:06:00 No.14731897 Report

Quoted By: >>14732009

>hey, /tg/ what REAL LIFE shit would effect a FICTIONAL WORK WITH NO REAL LIFE EQUIVILENT?

What an astute question, you should post more of these.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 13:16:00 No.14731989 Report

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each space marine is like a tank, so i would imagine you need a tank rifle to penetrate their skull

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 13:18:00 No.14732009 Report

Quoted By: >>14732069 >>14732214

>>14731897
Yeah it's so fuckin' difficult to conceptualize especially since they go into graphic detail about the biology and constitution of Space Marines and their various physical augmentations.

When people like you type out stuff like "fantasy =/= reality", have you ever, like, actually experienced reality?

That Guy !CrwtTbFNxQ

That Guy !CrwtTbFNxQ Wed 27 Apr 2011 13:20:00 No.14732025 Report

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I'll say a .357 round at close range should do it.
I mean, they can be killed with a lucky lasgun shot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 13:21:00 No.14732042 Report

Quoted By: >>14732141 >>14732329

>>14732025
Can't lasguns blow unarmored limbs right off?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 13:25:00 No.14732069 Report

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>>14732009
Yes, and they so often quantify exactly how strong a Space Marine's skull is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 13:43:00 No.14732141 Report

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>>14732042
As far as I know, yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 13:46:00 No.14732179 Report

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>>14732141
Not exactly equivalent to a .357.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 13:48:00 No.14732206 Report

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>>14732179
I'm not the guy you were talking to. Going by the ability to blow a limb off, I'd say a shot from a Lasgun is more akin to a .50 round. Can one Lasgun shot kill a Space Marine if it's a helmet-less headshot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 13:49:00 No.14732214 Report

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>>14732009

Yeah, except the graphic detail is nowhere based on reality whatsoever. It's like reading those diagrams showing how lightsabers work and then asking how easily they can slice through the armor of an Abrams Tank.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 13:52:00 No.14732234 Report

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>>14732206
I know you're not.

What a lasgun would do to a Space Marine's head probably depends on who's writing. If it hit an Ultramarine, it would bounce off and kill the firer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 13:58:00 No.14732281 Report

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>>14732234
If it hit a Space Wolf, it would pass through harmlessly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 13:59:00 No.14732292 Report

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>>14731825
I've always felt this image needs a soundtrack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 14:03:00 No.14732329 Report

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>>14732141
>>14732042
The lasgun is about the heat, not the penetration. Thats why it's SUPER EFFECTIVE on bare flesh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 14:04:00 No.14732336 Report

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lasguns are s3
being slashed and stabbed is a s3 attack
a fragmentation grenade (g. launcer) is s3.

a light machinegun is s4
a frag missile is s4
being set on fire is s4

that gives us a relative idea of power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 14:05:00 No.14732347 Report

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>>14732329The lasgun is about the heat, not the penetration. Thats why it's SUPER EFFECTIVE on bare flesh.

a lasgun blast to a space marine wouldn't penetrate, but make his head hot

shoot him again and his head turns red and steam comes out of his ears

shoot him again and it explodes and drops coins

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 14:06:00 No.14732358 Report

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>>14732292
>>14732292
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYzCAyzK7pc&feature=related

HOOD SPACE MARINES PUT YA HANDS UP

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 14:09:00 No.14732379 Report

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>>14731825

COUNTTHESKULLS.jpg

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Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 14:10:00 No.14732388 Report

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>>14731825
Almost any gunshot in the temple will do. They wear helmets for a reason.
>It's a space marine!
It's still a man.
>b-but his bones are reinforced
It's still bone. Does the codex say his brains are reinforced?
>b-bionics, though-
That's not a skull. That's bionics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 14:10:00 No.14732391 Report

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>>14732347
I- I- I like this. Is this bad?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 14:12:00 No.14732405 Report

Quoted By: >>14732460 >>14732461

Space marine bones are ultra-thick and laced with what is essentially concrete. So whatever kind of round you need to make it through 1-2 inches of concrete and still have killing penetration power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 14:17:00 No.14732460 Report

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>>14732405
>still have killing penetration power.
I'm not sure you need it anymore, because we're at the brain after those two inches, but yeah, thick shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 14:18:00 No.14732461 Report

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>>14731825
If you're talking penetrate, this>>14732405.

If you're talking "if I shoot 'em in the head, will they die?" You'd have to find a bullet that, even if stopped dead by concrete skull would hit with enough kinetic force to pulp the brain. I don't know much about bullet physics; ask /k/.

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Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 14:22:00 No.14732496 Report

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>>14732388
TBH, they wear helmets for the vox/night vision/air circ stuff. Helmets are good for deflecting shrapnel and the like, but if you get shot in the head, it ain't gonna matter if you've got a helmet or not. Soldiers have them for psychological purposes mostly; SPESS MEHREHNS don't need the psych boost, and shrapnel wouldn't do enough hurt anyway.

>mfw I just gave a decent reason why sergeants don't wear helmets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 14:23:00 No.14732505 Report

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>>14732461
i imagine their bone would still crush under the force, absorbing part of the blowl; i mean there's story of space marine passing out after a huge shock but still alive, this would be that case

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 14:24:00 No.14732521 Report

Quoted By: >>14732528 >>14732532

Look at Dawn of War 2's force commander and captain diomedes. I say most bullets just end up getting lodged in the skull, only halfway penetrating it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 14:25:00 No.14732528 Report

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>>14732521
I'm genuinely surprised it took this long for that joke to be made.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 14:26:00 No.14732532 Report

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>>14732521
they have studs in their skull as a milestone of their service to the chapter. each studs on their skull represent 100 years of service

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2011 14:32:00 No.14732574 Report

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>>14731825
Toughness 4.

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