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Gay Skull Fri 29 Apr 2011 05:51:00 No.14744545 View View Reply Original Report

Got a bit of a conundrum, /tg/. Made a half-elf transmuter for Pathfinder and we rolled for stats I ended up with

Str 16
Dex15
Con 15
Int 19
Wis 14
Cha 11

We are level 3 now, and I'm wondering if I shouldn't multiclass. I really like my stats, but I feel like I'm wasting them if I stick with wizard. If I do multiclass, it'll be fighter (eldritch knight possibly later) to give out party some more damage output. On the other hand, the game does reward you for staying in one class.

Basically, should I dip into fighter for a level or two or stick with wizard all the way? Thanks in advance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Apr 2011 05:55:00 No.14744578 Report

Quoted By: >>14744613

I'd stay straight wizard personally. If you really want melee, look into the Beast Shape spells.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Apr 2011 05:55:00 No.14744582 Report

Quoted By: >>14744613

Stay Wizard. If you want to put that intelligence to good use, I'm pretty sure there's a PrC that gives you bonuses to attack, damage, and AC based off of intelligence.
Go with that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Apr 2011 05:56:00 No.14744588 Report

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Depends on your party, but sacrificing spell levels sucks. Stick with wizard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Apr 2011 05:58:00 No.14744609 Report

Quoted By: >>14744644

>>14744545
I am also in a Pathfinder game, and at level 3 I had worse stats than you do right now. How do you not...? I just fail to grasp how you could not be 'effective' at this point. Stay back, pick your moments and be creative.

For that matter, multiclassing is not near as powerful as merely staying in one class. Skip a wizard level or take prestige, and you pay for it in access to the creme-de-la-creme of wizard power. So you could skip out now and be a decent gish, or stick with the quadratic power curve and become very powerful indeed.

Actually, isn't that the point of wizards? You have a small pool of resources to draw from at low level, forcing you to think well and laterally, which is then rewarded at higher levels with a sharp climb in raw power.

Then again, just the thoughts of an AD&D2E player. Go with your gut, friend.

Gay Skull

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Gay Skull Fri 29 Apr 2011 05:59:00 No.14744613 Report

Quoted By: >>14744751

>>14744582
Not in Pathfinder so far, and that's what my DM is allowing (which I'm fine with).

>>14744578
That's a good point, as a transmuter I will be able to that stuff in spades later on.

Pic related, where I see my PC at higher levels.

Gay Skull

Gay Skull Fri 29 Apr 2011 06:02:00 No.14744644 Report

Quoted By: >>14744716

>>14744609
Oh I'm not worried about my effectiveness at all, I just look at those sweet stats and feel compelled to diversify a bit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Apr 2011 06:08:00 No.14744716 Report

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>>14744644
That, I can understand. Take a few odd feats here and there and I think you can make things more friendly to that- current game I play a military gunmage. Rules dictate shitty BAB, but I don't mind because cool DM lets me play a consummate soldier. Rather, it can be summed up as: fuck you, I am magic Spetznaz. Quite fun.

But, yeah- take an idea and run with it.

Gay Skull

Gay Skull Fri 29 Apr 2011 06:11:00 No.14744745 Report

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Alright, looks like I'll stick with wizard for now. Might dip into fighter later on if I need to, but transmutation seems to give me what I need.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Apr 2011 06:12:00 No.14744751 Report

Quoted By: >>14745280

>>14744613
If you're not used to Pathfinder, they treat polymorph spells as giving bonuses to your stats rather than replacing them, so you're definitely not wasting them as a transmuter.

See if you can find ways to improve your transformed combat abilities. Continuous magic items (stuff you don't actively "use") stay active with the exception of armor, so your bracers of armor will still be useful. You won't have a good BAB, but you should be able to get other bonuses to attack and natural attacks don't give iterative attacks regardless of BAB. Taking the form of a dragon is explicitly stated to not prevent you from casting spells, although you'll need to take the Eschew Materials feat for some spells.

A word of advice; if you're planning on assuming different forms regularly, make sure you know exactly what they can do. No one will thank you for casting Beast Form if you then stop the game for five minutes while you try to find a Large Animal with Pounce (Dire Lions and Tigers, fyi).

Gay Skull

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Gay Skull Fri 29 Apr 2011 07:02:00 No.14745280 Report

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>>14744751
Yeah, that's what my DM said. I've been Pathfinding for 7 months now, but this is my first transmuter/polymorpher. I got the Toughness feat this level, but at level 5 I'll go for Craft Wondrous Item and improve my AC (weakest combat number now).

That or I could go for Inscribe Rune, which would be cool too, but the catch is I can only have one rune at a time. I should probably save that for level 7, when I'll have spells that would be more suited for the "rune slot".

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