>worked late then watched game of thrones, sorry about the late start >last time: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/14746347/ >the irc on sup/tg/ is #CommanderQuest The next morning starts much earlier than you would like. By the time you reach the wall your men are rising from where they passed out to clear the wall, many of them struggling to clear the corpses and debris away. The north wall seems to be under the command of Seventus' second in command, and in perfectly good order, the south and West also seem to be clearing away well. the south wall has a single regular siege tower, and the slowly re-growing Living tower at it, the north only its pair of living towers, west bereft of any towers at it, though there was clearly fighting on it. As the enemy camp stirs to preparation, you stand, contemplating what you will see to first.
Maximus
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How each wall fared in terms of casualties. If that's going to take time, we need to assess the damage that occurred on the east wall and perhaps get our earth elementalists to repair it as best they can.
No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals
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>>14782661 I think first things first:
Have them burn down or otherwise destroy the remaining siege towers. Have that life elementalist with the vine go to the living towers to kill them.
As for us, we should concentrate on repairing the damage to the East Wall.
Anonymous
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>>14782661 we need to deal with those living towers on our wall. Sounds like we need that legionary with the vine.
Are there enemy forces on the field to defend that living tower we immobilized? If not, sounds like a job for a cav-mounted oil team. burn it.
Pax !uGYNBMPzOs
You set out to track down either the elementalist with the Syptionus vine, or Sansa; to see about the towers at the wall, or The Bill, respectively. You find the man sitting atop the tower Wulf fought his portion of the battle from, meditating, drenched in sweat, his symbiont still noticeably spreading. "Commander..." he greets you, staggering to his feet. "how can I help you?" "I was hoping you would be able to deal with the living towers at our walls." you answer honestly He grimaces "The towers are akin to my vine, its... its moving faster than I can control it. Another tower could be then end of me in my current state. And from what I can feel, I will need to be more delicate with the next few towers, as they are growing into the wall. If they are allowed to die and burst..." he falls back to his feet, sweating again. "Give the command and I will deal with the towers, Commander." he finishes, half sitting, half in his meditative stance.
Maximus
>>14782794 Screw that. We can't afford to let this guy die. We still do need to find out why exactly they exploded... Perhaps we should see if we can get men inside the top and then explore the interior?
Anonymous
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>>14782794 Maybe we should have Laelith burn them down instead, while we seal the damage with our own abilities.
Anonymous
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>>14782809 Agreed. We're pushing this guy to the breaking point and I don't want to kill him just for expediency. We'll find another way to deal with the towers for now.
No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals
>>14782794 Wait, maybe we can use this to our advantage?
The enemy will concentrate on the living towers already on our walls; maybe we can use them as choke points and trap them to hell and back.
Either that, or have Laelith and the fire elementalist teams try to burn them down.
Generic
>>14782794 "The towers are growing on their own? Shouldn't that ability leave them with the life elementalists?"
Get Lealith to the towers on our wall and have her turn them and any possible elementalists inside to ash.
Anonymous
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Let me remind you all that we still need to repair the damage caused by that one tower that exploded.
Maximus
>>14782887 >>14782882 I still think we should find out why they explode before we burn them. Especially since that might cause them to explode some more. This is a chance to examine the interior of their towers and maybe find a weakness if Laelith has time to study them.
Maximus
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>>14782940 Of course, if we do only send a few people in to clear it and see what's inside. I wouldn't want Laelith entering that thing if they can detonate it at will. Actually, now that I think about it, let's not have her go inside it at all. But we should still see if we can find out why they explode.
Pax !uGYNBMPzOs
"The towers are growing on their own?" you ask the man, dismissing his attempt to rise again with a wave of your hand. "No." your man replies, his breath ragged "The elementalists are still in the towers, probably guarded heavily. The towers are more an extension of their bodies than anything by now."
No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals
Fire. Lots and lots of fire and oil. Now.
Anonymous
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>>14782962 "If we kill the elementalists, will the towers die with them?"
Laurentius
Maximus
>>14782972 I'm hesitant to destroy the towers until we get an idea on why they exploded. It's entirely possible they're designed to explode upon being destroyed and that might open up the wall. We need to talk to Laelith and see if we can get an idea on what the safe path might be at this point.
No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals
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>>14782999 Sure, but we better hurry.
The other idea, of course, is to turn the siege towers into parts of the wall using our earth elementalism, thereby negating any use they are to the enemy.
Generic
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>>14782962 fire elementalists and our grenadier teams are to get fire INSIDE of the towers. don't try to burn the towers, kill the elementalists with fire.
Kill the elementalists, then burn the inert towers.
Pax !uGYNBMPzOs
"So, if we were to kill the towers, they will all detonate as the last one did?" you ask the man, who is now looking grateful, and in his meditative stance. "I believe that is the extent of the things death throes. Storming them would be best, and I hope, that if the elementalists are removed alive the thing will simply wither and die. But as the towers are likely an extension of their bodies by now, that will be no small feat." he answers, behind you, the sound of footsteps can be heard, and you turn to see Sansa approaching, a small smile on her face.
Laurentius
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>>14783036 "You seem cheery today, what could be causing your good mood?" my guess is bad news for seventus
Generic
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>>14783036 "Can you sense where their elementalists are located in the towers?"
No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals
Going with Generic's idea of using fire to overwhelm the nervous system of the life elementalists who are linked with the living siege towers. According to Pax, they can feel the pain of whatever they're linked to feels; in this case, the living siege towers.
Generic
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If the towers are likely an extension of the elementalists' bodies by now, can cause massive amounts of trauma to overwhelm their nervous systems and incapacitate them?
Best bet would likely be hitting the towers with all our remaining oil flasks and siege equipment, then lighting them on fire. If we're lucky, we might even kill them by putting them into shock.
>>14783149 Oh hey, you're fast.
Pax !uGYNBMPzOs
You turn to greet your aid, whose grin drops as soon as the top of the wall is back within her sight "You seemed rather cheery love, care to share it with me, or do you have business that needs sseing to first?" you greet her with a hug. "Work, of course." she replies, her meek voice apologizing for her inappropriate mood as she sees the slaughter around, and after the bombardment in, the city. she hands you the bill "Most of the wooden structures in the market district were burnt up in the night, as was the rest of the food stored in that part of the city and the food ready to be distributed today. By my count its an even chance of us running out or lasting through until our reinforcements arrive. The well was damaged as well, if it werent for yiour orders to collect the rain that would be a pressing issue as well now." she informs you, her nerves showing raw again. -196th Legionary Gaius Rex 165/200 good -454th Legionary Cornelius Hoursch 160/200 good -98th Warlords
No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals
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>>14783191 Let's start with the South Wall. It only has 1 living tower attached, and we need to make sure that it doesn't stay up.
Anonymous
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>>14783191 Walk the walls and use tremorsense to see which has grown into the wall the most/fastest. Kill that one first.
Generic
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>>14783191 I'm thinking the living tower on the south wall.
I have more confidence in our force or Seventus' holding against a living tower than the garrison.
Anonymous
>>14783191 Best keep our earth elementalists who can fix the walls on standby. But don't keep them close enough to the tower that they'd be in danger if it blows
Generic
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>>14783242 very good point.
seconding.
Maximus
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We might also want to have scouts keeping an eye on movement of their towers in the future so we have more of a heads up on where they're putting them. Them assaulting the western wall worried me and I want to be sure we know before battle starts if the western wall might be hit by towers.
Pax !uGYNBMPzOs
You turn to face the elementalist "Can you sense where in the towers the elementalists are?" He shakes his head "Near the bottom, but not at the lowest level, roughly the center." the elementalist forces out. You nod, and face Sansa again "Have all of our remaining oil gathered and meet me at the south wall. I have a plan to deal with these living towers." "Who will you want with you for this?" she asks quickly.
Maximus
>>14783322 I say the warlords and Dasesu. He might be able to pull off some fancy tricks while we're in there and the warlords are probably our best thing to deal with their knights. I think that's what was in the towers at least.
Generic
>>14783322 Lealith, 40 legionaries? Blackbird and some of his men?
No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals
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>>14783353 Seconded. I'd like to try overloading the nervous systems of the life elementalists with pain, first.
Once they're down, then we can storm the tower.
Maximus
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>>14783357 Might be worth bringing Laelith although we could just have her sit outside the tower and continually burning it. It's living wood so it won't be too effective but it'll constantly be applying pain to the elementalist in charge. Oh and I suppose we should bring a few crossbows with us since I imagine repeaters in close quarters are pretty awesome.
GoldPanda
Let's not set any fires if we are sending our men INSIDE the towers. I say bring: Justinian as team leader. Collin. Daeseu, give him the knife that can make cuts that does not heal. His job is to cut the enemy elementalist loose from the tower as soon as possible. 20 legionnaires, 10 warlords, 10 rangers with repeaters Afterward, after everyone gets back out, fire elementalists and grenadiers torch the tower, while earth elementalists repair any damage to the walls. We got to take down any many towers as possible before the enemy main force returns. Let's get to work.
Maximus
>>14783481 Well I figured Laelith outside the tower setting it on fire, she can stop the fires if it gets bad enough and living wood won't go on fire that easily. When she notices the fires burning a lot better, she can stop them so we can escape. Furthermore, I believe the knife that doesn't naturally heal CAN heal if a life elementalist uses their abilities.
Pax !uGYNBMPzOs
"Daeseu, Laelith, and 40 of Uurists' craziest dwarfs." you reply after thinking for a brief period of time. You look out over your burnt field, it will be a while before you can make your move, so you pause to observe it, strewn with corpses and caltrops as it is. Not pretty to be certain, but beautiful in its own way. Wasnt that tower lower in the ground yesterday? It must be your exhaustion muddying your mind. "We will be ready to move in an hour." Sansa replies energetically. All you have to do now is fill the time between then and now, you realize, as you think on what it is you will do.
Maximus
>>14783505 If we have lesser fire elementalists, perhaps we should get them to start torching the tower to begin weakening the elementalist. Until our assault, we should talk to Degrian and assess the damage done to the walls. See how much he can repair.
GoldPanda
>>14783503 Send Jayne out with our cavalry. Go to the tower stuck outside the east wall. Stop the enemy elemental's heart(s).
I'm fine with using fire to weaken the enemy first.
Even if the enemy elementalist can heal their cuts, make them work for it. I bet the knife's cuts are still harder to heal than the ones made with non-arcana knifes.
No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals
>>14783505 >Wasnt that tower lower in the ground yesterday? No, do not assume anything, especially when the enemy has magic users.
Detail one or two sharp-eyed archers to keep an eye on that tower and to tell if anything weird happens with it.
It might just be us being tired, but it pays to be a little paranoid when the enemy has lots of elementalists and mages to throw at us.
Generic
>>14783505 I want to put an earth spike into that tower that ISNT on the wall.
Concentrate/meditate on it, then drive one giant spike into the thing, then SPIKES FROM THAT SPIKE, like we did against Stant's Valks when they tried to drop those rocks.
Kill everyone inside.
No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals
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>>14783548 Second.
We don't want those life elementalists to be anywhere near effective when we storm the tower.
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>>14783572 Second. Rolling for elementalism.
Plan B is sending Jayne out.
Maximus
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>>14783570 Agreed.
>>14783572 Depends how close it is... This was a living tower? The explosion might still do damage.
>>14783559 I'm hesitant to send out our cavalry at this point just because I don't want them pegged by archers.
Pax !uGYNBMPzOs
Sighing, you set off to find your fire supression crew, and Degrian. The former are easy to find, as they sit gathered around a table in the smoking ruins of the market district, dead-eyed and quiet. They all rise to salute you, before quietly waiting for orders "I need you to head to the south wall and start working to set the Living Tower there on fire. i'm striking at the thing and when we move for the kill with oil and Laelith I want it to be fast." they all nod, salute and trudge off. You feel somewhat sorry for them, despite the rain they had had a hell of a battle last night. But all of your soldiers are tired, and there's work that needs to be done. You find Degrian quietly pacing in front of a model of the city, a very accurate representation of the damage to the wall cut into it. "Hello Commander, how can I help you?" he asks, after saluting. You look at the model "Excellent work with that... what can you do to remedy some of that damage while we're stuck behind these walls?" you ask amiably returning the salute. Degrian stops his pacing to think for a moment before responding "Insane idea or plain idea first?"
Laurentius
Generic
Maximus
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>>14783703 Insane then plain. We should also see if our stonesense can tell us just how much damage was done and if we can repair it with elementalism.
No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals
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>>14783703 "Insane first. It'll make the plain one seem even more reasonable in comparison."
Pax !uGYNBMPzOs
"Insane first, my friend. It will make the saner choice seem all the wiser that way." you quip, nodding in acknowledgement to the man from Aurelius unit as he confirms that the enemy has, in fact, gotten the last Living tower out from its hole. "Give me 50 men to collect stone from walls base, then I use ropes with engineers to re-build wall from top down." he answers grinning at the look of confusion that forms on your face "Or, we dismantle abandoned shops to build new wall around broken section. No time or room to properly repair wall during siege." he finishes, looking apologetic. Sansa enters the room "Commander, when you are ready so is your strike group."
Gloquenteentleman !yVrZbEGJ8A
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>>14783823 The insane plan may not seem so insane if we can provide proper defenses in the mean time. I wonder if Lena has gained enough skill with shielding yet.
tactical routine omicron !/tOwVz0x0k
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>>14783823 "Do what you can, Degrian, but if it looks like the Urlanthi are starting another push, get to safety. You're an important part of how I make war."
Maximus
>>14783823 As much as I'd like to not destroy the abandoned stores at this point, the insane plan will likely result in more deaths from their archers. Perhaps we can try to locate the store owners and get permission from them to use their stores but at this point, I think the plain idea is better unless someone can think of an idea on how to protect the builders in the insane idea.
An alternate idea - we can sculpt stone. If we have it all gathered at the wall, could we build up the wall with our elementalism? As long as we can do it from some distance, it might be safer than the insane plan. Regardless, I'm out for the night guys.
Laurentius
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>>14783823 tell degrian to go with the shops, then go get ready to attack
No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals
>>14783868 Seconding asking Degrian if he could get the earth elementalists to strengthen the walls instead.
Laurentius
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>>14783900 I'll second this as well, can't hurt to ask
GoldPanda
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>>14783823 Let's go with plain plan + earth elementalism for now.
From what Pax told us in IRC, the damage by the tower to the wall was about 1/6 of wall thickness, and 20 feet in width. Damage done by the more mature towers we have now, if they were to explode, would be much greater. They've had more time to weaken and grow into the walls.
If we screw up and end up with more exploded towers and actual gaps in the walls, we can fall back on the insane plan.
Pax !uGYNBMPzOs
You sigh "Ask the shop owners in the case of those still living, then go with that plan. If at all possible have the other earth elementalists help you as well." At that you salute, and follow Sansa to the wall. "I'm helping you with this action." she states as you walk. You shoot a questioning sidelong glance at her "Nothing else can be done for the defense at the moment, we're already back to waiting for our foes to make their next move, and you need steady hands and calm nerves for this." she defends her ascertation as you reach the spot on the wall where your group is waiting. The tower is burnt deep, the point where its roots in the wall meet the tower bare and think from the fire, the thing weeping sap. Laelith looks to you, her unspoken request for permission matching Sansas.
GoldPanda
Also, for that tower that hasn't reached the walls yet, can't we just send out some guys with ropes and hooks, maybe some draft animals, and pull that sucker down?
GoldPanda
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Before we go in, Pax, are you going to use my 41 roll on the east wall tower?
Generic
>>14783963 wouldn't the living tower just root and laugh us like frenchmen?
GoldPanda
>>14784043 Leverage is a wonderful thing.
I don't have a good idea of what the dimensions of this "living tower". We could definitely use this trick on the regular siege towers.
Hey, Pax, I believe there is one remaining regular siege tower on the south wall? Get some people with ropes, hooks, draft animals, and pull it down, away from the wall.
Generic
>>14784043 ... laugh AT us
>>14783962 Let's do this.
Hit the outside hard with lealith's fire to distract/fuck with the enemy's life eles.
Then assault it, cut out the grown-in life eles and remove them from the tower. Don't kill them until they're cut apart from the structure, but if they resist slay them before they can grow themself back into it.
No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals
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>>14783962 Alright, let's go.
Laelith comes with us as an elven flamethrower, protected by staying behind the dwarven warlords.
We keep an eye on the tower itself; when it looks like it's about to die, we get the hell out before it explodes.
Generic
>>14784086 can't we just burn the regular tower?
It seems like a much safer bet and also one that we don't have to devote much manpower to.
GoldPanda
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>>14784093 Second.
>>14784125 I'm a little worried about causing further damage to the walls. Plus, this frees up our fire elementalists to concentrate on the big living tower.