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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 13:47:00 No.14783728 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14783876 >>14783995 >>14784905 >>14788898

Would you rather fight a werewolf or a vampire in a forest? You only need to survive for one night, and have twenty-four hours to prepare.

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Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 13:49:00 No.14783746 Report

Quoted By: >>14783764

We need a lot more info, OP.
What are the relative strengths of vampires and werewolves in this scenario.
There are games in which one is vastly better than the other. I mean, in owod your average werewolf PC was a lot better than your average vampire PC.
Flesh this out a little.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 13:52:00 No.14783764 Report

Quoted By: >>14789120

>>14783746

You must survive from dusk until dawn. You have twenty-four hours to gather any supplies you'll need. You don't have to fight the opponent, but they'll be trying to kill you, so fighting what it will probably come down to. If you die, you lose.

Generic vampire/werewolf traits

NH4NO3 !/J1QYpS5Eo

NH4NO3 !/J1QYpS5Eo Mon 02 May 2011 13:54:00 No.14783783 Report

Quoted By: >>14783795

Vampire. Worse comes to worse, I can hide in a river since vampires can't cross moving water. Forests are also full of trees, which are made of wood. Silver on the other hand is fairly rare.

Plus I'm an expert on slaying vampires.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 13:56:00 No.14783795 Report

Quoted By: >>14783802

>>14783783
>I can hide in a river since vampires can't cross moving water
In most settings, they can cross moving water just fine.
This is what I'm talking about, we need to agree on what constitutes vampires and werewolves here to make any decisions or we'll end up with "I go into the river"/"Ok, the vampire dives in after you" kind of stuff.

NH4NO3 !/J1QYpS5Eo

NH4NO3 !/J1QYpS5Eo Mon 02 May 2011 13:57:00 No.14783802 Report

Quoted By: >>14783836 >>14783856

>>14783795
Those settings are wrong then, because vampires have never been able to cross moving water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 13:58:00 No.14783809 Report

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Unless it's specifically a full moon, then a werewolf, because then it's just a normal guy.

Otherwise the vampire. I prepare by finding a river, and I then proceed to sit there for twelve hours while he hisses at me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 13:58:00 No.14783813 Report

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doesn't matter which one. 24 hour preparation enough against both of them

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 13:59:00 No.14783832 Report

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Vamp is stuck out of the sun for the daylight hours, so I've got uninterrupted time with this choice while the 'wolf could, ostensibly, be perusing me in human form...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 14:00:00 No.14783835 Report

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if i get to be changeling I'll take both.

Have fun trying to get me in The Hedge suckers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 14:00:00 No.14783836 Report

Quoted By: >>14783849 >>14783855

>>14783802
dracula seemed to make it across the ocean on more than one ocassion just fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 14:00:00 No.14783840 Report

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24 hours to prepare?

Gun, silver bullets/silver weapon, bags of blood, odor bombs, tripwires.

Werewolf 0, human 1.

Vampire? You're dead. The undead have too many sneaky tricks and the forest is the worst of all possible places to deal with one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 14:00:00 No.14783841 Report

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Yeah, really, 24 hours is defnitely enough time to get myself a suit containing plenty of either a) garlic or b) silver and just ride it out.

NH4NO3 !/J1QYpS5Eo

NH4NO3 !/J1QYpS5Eo Mon 02 May 2011 14:02:00 No.14783849 Report

Quoted By: >>14783940

>>14783836
Locked in his coffin the entire time with soil from his homeland.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 14:02:00 No.14783855 Report

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>>14783836
There are rules. A vampire cannot cross running water of his own volition - he must be carried across by others of their own free will (even if duped or tricked into doing so). Also, the water in question must be untampered with by human hands/machinery - he can cross an aqueduct or a canal, but a mountain stream would be impassible unless someone chose to carry him over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 14:02:00 No.14783856 Report

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>>14783802
Come on. There is no one set of rules that govern vampires in fiction.
We have a mass of contradictory folk tales, we have Bram Stoker's Dracula, we have Nosferatu (which gave us the whole 'sunlight kills them' idea), we have Anne Rice, we have owod and nwod which intentionally mix those all together.
Some would also include Twilight in that list. I'll assume that no one here counts that as a valid source of vampire rules.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 14:03:00 No.14783863 Report

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location is confined, time is confined, but resources and enemy are both unlimited... so... approach this like the first day of minecraft. Dig a hole, grab what you need to live out the night, and seal it up behind you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 14:04:00 No.14783876 Report

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>>14783728
OH GOD I READ IT! WHY!?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 14:11:00 No.14783940 Report

Quoted By: >>14783953 >>14783967

>>14783849
Yet he managed to suck out the entire crew

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 14:13:00 No.14783953 Report

Quoted By: >>14783967

>>14783940
Oh, he sucked it all out of them all right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 14:14:00 No.14783959 Report

Quoted By: >>14783964

You know, i like anime, and I disagree with almost everything that person said.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 14:15:00 No.14783964 Report

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>>14783959
You should, he's the worst kind of wapanese.

Indonesian Gentleman

Indonesian Gentleman Mon 02 May 2011 14:16:00 No.14783967 Report

Quoted By: >>14783986

>>14783953
>>14783940
So, this confirms Dracula's sexuality: He's Bi.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 14:16:00 No.14783972 Report

Quoted By: >>14783994 >>14783998 >>14783999

Vampire. I will build a small house, make it my home and never invite anyone in. Vampires cannot enter someone's house unless invited.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 14:18:00 No.14783986 Report

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>>14783967
Dracula's sexuality is Evil Hungry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 14:19:00 No.14783994 Report

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>>14783972
Hope that the vampire does not have a pocket lighter

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 14:19:00 No.14783995 Report

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>>14783728
Oh Jesus, I read it... that was a mistake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 14:19:00 No.14783998 Report

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>>14783972
Need some Amish barn-raising shit to do that in 24 hours.

Plus, i'm the type to split hairs that while you could theoretically make a building in 24 hours, it wouldn't really be a "home" until you had lived there a while.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 14:19:00 No.14783999 Report

Quoted By: >>14784032

>>14783972
But then the trickiness starts.
Fake girl scouts with cookies visits.
Fake attractive women visits.
Etc.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 14:22:00 No.14784032 Report

Quoted By: >>14784039

>>14783999

On the hand, it could be a dracula.

on the other hand, samoas.

NH4NO3 !/J1QYpS5Eo

NH4NO3 !/J1QYpS5Eo Mon 02 May 2011 14:23:00 No.14784039 Report

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>>14784032
Or worse. A land shark.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 14:24:00 No.14784051 Report

Quoted By: >>14784062 >>14784101 >>14784102

If we're going with generic rules and 24 hr prep, then vampires are fucked over no matter what.
They just have too many easily exploitable weaknesses. Just stock up on crosses, holy water, and garlic and you're untouchable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 14:25:00 No.14784062 Report

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>>14784051
I've always wondered: If you ate a significant amount of garlic, would a vampire want to suck your blood since it would have garlic in it?
Now what if the vampire was Roseanne?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 14:25:00 No.14784065 Report

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Wait wait wait. Is the vampire male or female?

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NH4NO3 !/J1QYpS5Eo Mon 02 May 2011 14:28:00 No.14784101 Report

Quoted By: >>14784168

>>14784051
Crosses are irrelevant. It's any holy symbol so long as you have enough faith to put behind it.

So get yourself a hammer and use the power of Thor to demolish the vampire or go to Valhalla trying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 14:28:00 No.14784102 Report

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>>14784051
And your faith? How is that? Holy water and crosses don't work without faith. How are you with your gods? Or....you are a Christian, right? If not, you could be in very, very bad trouble.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 14:35:00 No.14784168 Report

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>>14784101
So we're using Marvel and owod rules?
Hmm. My atheism doesn't bode well here.

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 16:40:00 No.14784905 Report

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>>14783728
I looked at the image, Ray!

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 16:48:00 No.14784966 Report

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>>14784877
We exterminate our threats, with SCIENCE!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 16:51:00 No.14784982 Report

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>>14784862
So your plan is to outwit someone for whom hunting people is a fairly routine thing?

I noticed that the winning move is not to play.

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 16:54:00 No.14785005 Report

Quoted By: >>14785146 >>14787554

>>14784742
So if I have some Buddhist like ideals of inner focus/mental clarity, I can hurt vampires with my very presence via meditating and/or fighting one while in a nirvana like trance?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 17:02:00 No.14785041 Report

Quoted By: >>14785077

>>14784862
I dunno, man. seems to me werewolves are the limited ones. Plus its pretty damn easy to shoot a werewolf to death. A vampire? Not so much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 17:09:00 No.14785077 Report

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>>14785041
>Plus its pretty damn easy to shoot a werewolf to death.

Just a note here, silver shit isn't insta-kill for a werewolf. It's just the only thing that can make lasting wounds in it. Which basically evens the playing field to you with a gun versus a full-grown, frenzied polar bear.

Yeah, I'll take my chances with the vampire.

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 17:24:00 No.14785146 Report

Quoted By: >>14787554

>>14785005
Well?

>Note that I am using that picture more in the context of symbolism for mental tranquility. I ultimately find the idea of a "higher power," laughable. There is no mystical transcendence in Nirvana, only becoming highly rational and able to peacefully embrace the oblivion of death--when that time comes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 17:50:00 No.14785287 Report

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Bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 19:13:00 No.14785771 Report

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Vampire. Get me a portable trailer pool and fill it with holy water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 19:25:00 No.14785849 Report

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Werewolf:
Proposed solution: Silver nitrate laced bear traps, barbed wire. Monkshood and mistletoe.

Vampire:
Proposed solution: Garlic in a tent on a stream. Douse tent with holy water prior to night time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 19:34:00 No.14785899 Report

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What's to stop someone from just acquiring suitable off-road transportation? "Generic vampire traits" ends up potentially encompassing things like "flight", "mind bullets" and "shapeshfiting" so this approach probably favors a werewolf.

Assuming people that aren't me would easily accept the events that I'm preparing for, I'd go to the US military and try to get a APC or something. I'm reasonably sure they would be willing to loan out equipment in return for biological samples of two mythical creatures with vast potential military applications.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 19:35:00 No.14785901 Report

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vampire, werewolf would rape the shit of me.
Vampires cannot cross lines of salt or garlic, so i'd spread that shit around me. If i could i'd pick up an arc welder and a generator, fashion it into a makeshit weapon. put the cathode and annode close together on a pole. then when you hit them with it turn it on, high voltage, high temperature and tons of UV.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 23:57:00 No.14787554 Report

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>>14785005
>>14785146
I'd go with that and become the most badass Buddhist monk that ever lived.

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Anonymous Tue 03 May 2011 02:12:00 No.14788898 Report

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>>14783728
Oh man what's this thread on about? I can't even see straight any more and this fucking Captcha is not helping at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 May 2011 02:22:00 No.14788994 Report

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Get my family's claymore and shillelagh and my dear mother's hunting rifle. Paint myself with woad and tattoo my own personal rune on my chest in.. fuck, I duuno, green paint.

IT'S TIME TO FIGHT ME A VAMPIRE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 May 2011 02:23:00 No.14788998 Report

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Vampire.

It'd would be too hard for me to get a gun to fire silver bullets from. So fuck fighting a werewolf

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Anonymous Tue 03 May 2011 02:26:00 No.14789033 Report

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no wait I want to talk about the fucking picture

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 May 2011 02:33:00 No.14789120 Report

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>>14783764
>24 hours to gather supplies
I'll be napping in a bathtub full of garlic and crucifixes.

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Anonymous Tue 03 May 2011 02:34:00 No.14789140 Report

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The Vampire. In my 24 hours I find myself a cross and a king james bible, and a hammer and stake of holy wood. I also learn the words to Psalm 23.

What's this hiding in a stream crap! I WILL NOT GO QUIETLY INTO THE NIGHT!

Pic related it's the two bro's i'll be taking with me.

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