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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 18:07:00 No.14785367 View View Reply Original Report

Hey, wizards. I gotta ask.

What the heck do you do with used scrolls?

I mean you use up so many, but it's not like the whole scroll disappears. Only the writings on it disappear, and then the magic in the paper is drained, so you can't really recycle it back into scroll form.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 18:09:00 No.14785373 Report

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Origami, perhaps? Recycle the paper for use as letters?

Perhaps you could use it as part of a--AMERICA FUCK YEAH.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 18:11:00 No.14785376 Report

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I turn it into compost for some of my more exotic plants. Not all magic in the paper is drained so it becomes a good source of mulch for fruit-bearing magically-attuned trees.

NH4NO3 !/J1QYpS5Eo

NH4NO3 !/J1QYpS5Eo Mon 02 May 2011 18:12:00 No.14785382 Report

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>>14785367
They don't have toilet paper in medieval settings, OP. Do the math.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 18:14:00 No.14785387 Report

Quoted By: >>14786576

Wizards often have a lot of pen pals, so magic scrolls do double duty as letter scrolls.

H.P Lovecraft did a very similar thing - though of course his magic scrolls were for summoning things that should not be, rather than fireballs or whatever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 18:14:00 No.14785392 Report

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what do you do with used scrolls?

you don't. When the spell is cast from the scroll, the binding magic is released and the scroll disintegrates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 18:15:00 No.14785393 Report

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I use mine to make more scrolls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 18:18:00 No.14785405 Report

Quoted By: >>14785536

I actually use the scrolls for paper maché golems

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 18:24:00 No.14785433 Report

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>>14785392
What? If that was the case, wouldn't wizards effectively turn into stickmen due to how much magic they chug out?

Besides, most magic isn't physical in nature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 18:26:00 No.14785443 Report

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>>14785433
The specific act of Scribing a scroll is what makes it disintegrate afterwards. Basically, the spell weakens the molecular bindings, then uses the room to store the magic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 18:44:00 No.14785525 Report

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I think they burn to ash when used. Or similar effect appropriate to the school of magic used. Abjuration scrolls curl up into a ball etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 18:45:00 No.14785533 Report

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>>14785443
Magic =/= Science

Scribing a scroll only causes the spiritual force in a scroll parchment to get organized, while casting the spell spends this energy. That's why there's non-magic parchment left over; it's a scroll corpse.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 18:45:00 No.14785536 Report

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>>14785405

tell me more

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 18:47:00 No.14785552 Report

Quoted By: >>14785636 >>14785784

>>14785433

um... nope.

because a scroll bearly has enough magic hold together ability and a human has alot more, due to having a soul.

Magus O'Grady

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Magus O'Grady Mon 02 May 2011 18:53:00 No.14785604 Report

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>>14785533
Pic related. Magic does kinda = science.

>>14785367
OP, I tend to keep them. There was an old rule in 2e that prevented them from being re-enchanted, but the tiny fragments and residual energies left in the parchment are not wholly useless. Sometimes they make for components of rare spells or magic items, and I've had a design for a construct for a while that harvests the residual energies of expended or depleted magic items to power itself, I just never seem to have enough pieces to get started.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 18:56:00 No.14785627 Report

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When I use up all my spell slots and am stuck with just Read Magic I use my Craft: Paper Airplane 10, roll bluff, toss all the paper airplanes made from my used scrolls at the monster and scream "Magic Missile!".

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 18:57:00 No.14785636 Report

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>>14785552

Are you suggesting that if scroll paper had a soul, it would be an infinite casting scroll?

...

That'll make a nice BBEG.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 19:07:00 No.14785727 Report

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>>14785636

I think he suggesting something different

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 19:15:00 No.14785784 Report

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>>14785552

Magic doesn't hold parchment molecules together. That would imply that people who make paper regularly infuse paper with magic. And with how common paper is during medieval times, I doubt magic is used so much as to enchant EVERY sheet of paper with the ability to send out fireballs.

Think about it, casting a spell doesn't burn out a wizard's physical body, so neither should it affect scroll's physical structure. And your soul reasoning; losing your soul doesn't turn you to ash either, I mean look at pretty much every common undead type.

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 19:17:00 No.14785803 Report

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>>14785784

but casting a spell burn out the magical body! So it makes sense that casting from a paper burns out the papers magical body.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 19:27:00 No.14785860 Report

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>>14785803
Yes, burning out the magical body of a scroll leaves the physical scroll intact.

OP question is what do you do with the physical scroll remains?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 19:31:00 No.14785881 Report

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I imagine an effect like flash paper. The scroll turns to dust as the mage incants the spell.

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 19:47:00 No.14785992 Report

Quoted By: >>14786401 >>14786422

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 20:57:00 No.14786401 Report

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>>14785992
Yes, the writings disappear.

But what do wizards do with the remaining parchment? Litter the dungeon floors with it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 20:59:00 No.14786422 Report

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>>14785992
>delicious alcohol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 21:01:00 No.14786430 Report

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TP. For their bunghole.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 21:02:00 No.14786433 Report

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My scolls crumble to dust after I have used them.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 21:10:00 No.14786477 Report

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I make mine into paper aeroplanes. With contingent fireball spells. And then I animate them. Because why the fuck not?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 21:14:00 No.14786507 Report

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If your scroll doesn't explode into a fireball once you've finished casting the contained spell you're not trying hard enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 21:18:00 No.14786535 Report

Quoted By: >>14786579

I always have my scrolls turn to ash as they're read from.

Because I don't like to litter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 21:24:00 No.14786576 Report

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>>14785387
He primarily did this to aid a New York detective, Native American Priestess and her bodyguard, Obese vampire, Drunk Cat, Brazilian Ninja and a Mariachi in their quest to save the world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 21:25:00 No.14786579 Report

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>>14786535
But I do like my things and general surroundings to smell like ash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 21:28:00 No.14786599 Report

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>>14786579

Not my things! If I'm going to be using scrolls it's probably in some bad guy's hideout or random encounter in the woods.

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 21:29:00 No.14786608 Report

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>>14786576

>My face when

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 21:32:00 No.14786636 Report

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>>14786608
I'm glad someone appreciated that

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 21:43:00 No.14786743 Report

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Scrolls are conduits. Magical energies of the Warp, I mean the Weave course through it like electricity through a copper wire. Mere paper cannot withstand thaumic equivalent of mega- and gigajoules exploding from it.
That being said, a scroll used by the worm that walks should totally change into a mass of vermin, including flying scorpions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 21:56:00 No.14786834 Report

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I turn my used scrolls into scrolls of Explosive Runes and sell them to my enemies. It truly is the most wonderful thing to do.

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Anonymous Mon 02 May 2011 22:31:00 No.14787048 Report

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>>14785604

Hank Pym

FUCK YEAH!

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