http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/rogue#TOC-Scout http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/assassin#TOC-Death-Attack-Ex- I've noticed this little combo of class perks after cracking into PF, finally. Now, I'm wondering, is this the proper way to set up a good ol'fashion Assassin in PF, or is there a better way?
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I prefer the Red Mantis Assassin to the vanilla Assassin. You can do a whole lot with very little.
Anonymous
>>14785910 That's no fun :(
>>14785928 My GM told me that only 'core' is allowed, I'm not too sure if RMA's are core in PF, as I just have the online resources. I'm not even sure if Assassins are core, themselves, I'm just assuming they are as they've been part of the 'basic' DnD for as long as I can remember.
I sort of like that they took spells from regular assassins and gave them to RMAs, definitely gives some flavor/play options to choose from :)
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Stories of properly played/awesome assassins or rogues also appreciated :)
Anonymous
>>14785880 My assassin is pure rogue/assassin. though he works with combat expertise and improved feint. he poses as a diplomat or another non-combatant, and simply talks to his target for a few rounds. if they aren't ready for a fight, simple quick draw sneak attack, or in my case unarmed attack. if they are ready for a fight, feint as a move, sneak attack. won't work if they realise you're the threat though
Anonymous
>>14786224 not a great story teller, but here we go.
My group and I had been send on a mission to guard a diplomat as he met with the heads of two other factions so the human kingdoms could forge a truce. In the party we had a gnome pyromaniac mage, a really angry fighter, and myself. I was posing as a second diplomat, very polite, unarmed other than an ornamental sword, completely unarmoured. The group alone thought I was simply a talky character, as I tend to "face" most games we play. We're travelling with the snivelling diplomat in the back of the expensive carriage I own, myself on the front alongside the fighter, just talking about goals, past experiences and the like. Ahead we see a poorly maintained tavern, hidden amongst trees with the sounds of laughing from within.
Anonymous
>>14786328 From this tavern appears a man wearing leather armour and a broad smile. He welcomes us and asks if we will be staying at his tavern, offering us drinks, women, song. Me and the fighter share a look, knowing this is a trap, but my character simply smiles and nods
"y...yes, I think a drink would be good" he replied, his voice growing in certainty before looking to the fighter, as if trying to convince him as well "we're parched from all this travelling, I think a stay here would do us good" I mention to the DM that I am "focussing" on the man, watching how he moves. He is clearly armed with an axe at his side, but has made no move to draw it. From the workmanship of his weaponry, the way he holds himself and his confidence, I establish that this man is the leader (and out of game figure that he will be a recurring character from the way the DM describes him in depth). After a quick perception check, i notice an archer hidden in the top window, confirming that this is a trap. The fighter has no use for subtlety, and believes me useless in a fight, so he hops from his seat on the right side of the carriage (the leader standing beside me at the left side) and walks around the horses, drawing his own greataxe. The fighter steps in, swings his axe, and does an impressive amount of damage. The DM simply looks at me and puts up three fingers, marking my third turn of watching him. I just grin as the leader turns away to face my comrade. I curl the fingers of my left hand for a moment before jabbing out at the nerve endings in the back of the mans neck. If the DM had not rolled a natural 20 for his fort, he would have died instantly, as it was, i still did triple the fighters damage with my bare hands, knocking the the leader down to HP in the single digits, forcing him to flee. I almost killed off his recurring villain instantly :(
Anonymous
>>14786337 Nice man. I'm considering replacing the first level with Bard to get ahold of the cantrip spells, play myself off as a jester or the like--think the harlequin from assassins creed 2--and go off that. I just don't know if it's worth the loss of a sneak attack dice and the rogue goodies. I suppose I could drop points into perform, haha.
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>>14786411 there is no reason you couldn't play a basic rogue as a harlequin. points in dance, lots of tumbling from acrobatics. if you need spells, get the rogue talent for it. expeditious retreat does wonders.
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thought I'd use a name in here to help I propose assassin/rogue art dump. I'll start with a few, though I'm busy
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some of these will be from obvious things, they just help inspire the look of my characters, the armour or the weapons etc.
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actually have trouble finding any good ones. need to organise my pictures
Deathleaper's Fangirl !!YD/t8+iuFvd
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>>14786458 >I propose assassin/rogue art dump. So it shall be.
Deathleaper's Fangirl !!YD/t8+iuFvd
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>>14785984 The assassin isn't worth much without its spells, though.
Deathleaper's Fangirl !!YD/t8+iuFvd
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Death Attack and the right assortment of magic items means you dont need spells as an assassin.
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>>14786684 hardly. I've never used spells much as an assassin. I'm happy to lose the spells in PF in place of some better combat abilities. if necessary, just get cheap magic items to take their place.
Deathleaper's Fangirl !!YD/t8+iuFvd
Anonymous
Best assassin is the one you'd never suspect to be one.
Deathleaper's Fangirl !!YD/t8+iuFvd
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>>14786721 Your girlfriend?
Deathleaper's Fangirl !!YD/t8+iuFvd
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>>14786721 totally. hence my diplomat. he walks around in expensive tunics and carriages, though he has many guises. one day a diplomat, one day a beggar. it's when he activates his ring of arming you need to worry
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I think with that theory, the "pictures of assassins" idea was a fail. they should just look like anybody else that you'd pass in the street and not look at twice
Deathleaper's Fangirl !!YD/t8+iuFvd
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So.... Who's deathleaper?
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>>14786758 a lictor in 40k?
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best assassins doesnt look like assassins at all (unless theyre in the ankh morpork guild of assassins, where that is expected)
Anonymous
What's happening in OPs picture? Delicious fanservice, isn't that the Fighter and the Rogue iconic characters from Pathfinder? Not sure about the other two but...
Anonymous
>>14786797 The brown girl is the cleric iconic. That's what she looks like under the robes and chain mail.
Laughing God
>>14786816 >>14786797 Yeah, and the resting dude, completely ignoring all the ruckus is the wizard iconic.
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>>14786712 There's no better combat abilities... Just some spells that have been made into abilities. It's less versatile and just as arbitrary.
>>14786708 Well, you can't say you need anything in DnD. As a 3.5 monk, or even a commoner, you can have fun and participate. Magic items do help, of course.
Also, even death attack itself has been limited compared to its 3.5 version.
Anonymous
>>14786828 Because he's gay.
Literally.
Gay and an athiest.
I actually find the Pathfinder iconics quite interesting, and would read/watch something they were in.
Anonymous
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Merisiel is such a whore. Then again she IS an elf.
Laughing God
>>14786845 You are thinking with your thestostherone if you are telling me he's gay just cause he isn't looking.
You forgot to notice that the second biggest eyecandy there is the warrior iconic.
The reason "being gay" has nothing do with him not taking the sight.
He's just bored and tired, in a bathplace you are supposed to rest.
And he's trying to ignore the others, too, who are making a ruckus....
Anonymous
>>14786883 >thestostherone What.
Anonymous
>>14786828 The Wizard is
A. In his late 60's
B. Most likely gay, and am not joking on this one.
Anonymous
>>14786887 so why is he ignoring that hunk-ahunk of man flesh?
Anonymous
>>14786883 The guy who created him for Pathfinder said the character is gay.
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>>14786901 Because he's much too old to deal with such things.
Anonymous
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>>14786901 He's gay for zombies.
Anonymous
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>>14786886 You don't have one of those? I whip mine out all the time, smack people around with it. Its great fun having a thestostherone. I feel bad for anyone that doesn't think with it.
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>>14786901 Because a lot of older men have serious trouble getting it up. And lesser hormones means you're less likely to drool over (gender of your choice)
Anonymous
So which one of the Pathfinder iconics is the horrible slut played by THAT GUY? Paizo always reminded me that they were basically a bunch of underaged grognards considering the amount of overt sex stuff and fetishes they threw into their D&D work.
Anonymous
>>14786931 Probably the scantily clad sorceress. She strikes me as the slut type.
Laughing God
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>>14786886 Yeah, I said to myself "Meh, fix it later".
Great multitasker I am, it seems...
>>14786903 Not saying he isn't.
Quite the contrary, I'm saying he is and is ignoring the children playing at the pool. Cause he wants to rest.
Anonymous
Laughing God
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>>14786931 Yeah, because old people don't have fetishes and aren't sexually deviants as much as young fuckers.
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My assassin character dresses like a commoner. Being ableto actually, you know, HIDE or BLEND IN is something of a plus. Fucking wannabes.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>14786938 All Paizo females are whores. They are big into the "women are sluts" stereotype.
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>>14786998 >All Paizo females are whores. They are big into the "women are sluts" stereotype. Explain.
Anonymous
>>14786998 sort of ironic considering that this hobby aint exactly a magnet for poon-tang
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>>14786971 I'm pretty sure she's an Aberrant sorceress. I mean, just look at her legs and COMPLETE LACK OF A WAIST
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>>14787033 That's exactly why fa/tg/uys create their female PC's and NPC's to be sluts. Wish fulfillment.
Anonymous
>>14786998 >All females are whores >The majority of all the characters in the Pathfinder books are dressed in proper clothes, heavy robes or even realisticly looking armour >WHORES, SLUTS, WHORES Laughing God
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>>14787033 ...
I can't argue with you.
Saying they are sexists is irrelevant when they don't even get to have sex in the first place.
Anonymous
>>14787054 eeeh... I'll need pics for confirmation there, bub.
I hear they try to sell boobplates.
and we all know those does not work for shit
Anonymous
>>14787061 Pathfinder has "Gloryborn armor" which is in-canon skimpy armor.
Also they have characters who look like this.
Anonymous
So why aren't we talking more about her?
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>>14787074 It's a goddess. They tend to look somewhat... exotic.
Anonymous
>>14787074 She's the setting's goddess of love, her appearance is entirely appropriate.
(Also I find it funny how the setting's goddess of lust constantly hits on her but gets spurned for being too shallow)
Anonymous
Anonymous
I remember in the last Paizo Adventure Path "Savage Tide". There was one part where you had to try and secure the aid of Malcanthet, demon queen of succubi. To get an audience the adventurers had to be stripped naked, run through Malcanthet's capital that way and be threatened with rape. Classy stuff.
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you realise he's probably dead in the pic, right? hence the assassin and the bloody blade
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>>14787127 Eh, they'll resurrect him. No biggie.
Anonymous
>>14787098 They only have to do that if they're too shitty to make a DC 40 diplomacy check on some mariliths or too poor to bribe them with an item worth at least 25k.
And the encounter with Malcanthet herself is hilarious.
Anonymous
>>14787098 Rape seems to be a bit of a theme with pathfinder
Anonymous
>>14787094 really? i read it as Calistria attempting to show the flowery goddess of everything and everyone is beautiful and isn't everything just lovely that reality is quite different. Love isn't the ideal that drives men to court ladies, it's their biological imperative to propagate, then roll over on the bed and fall asleep.
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>>14787098 I thik that is a cuthroat, not an "assassin". To kill is easy, any level 1 commoner can do it. To assassinate is a hard, complicated and very precise art.
If you are telling that shoadowy figure just killed a player with a "butcher knife" and no one noticed I can't believe. BUT if you tell he killed the guard to get in and is proceeding to atempt to kill the players I am all ears.
Laughing God
>>14787098 >>14787156 sigh
Grow up a bit, will ya?
It's just fictional. You can have as much rape as you want, which also include none.
Don't force your point of view down others people mouth.
I for one enjoyed that adventure. A diplomatic adventure is quite refreshing.
It's a welcomed rest from your usual "Baahaaw kill the evil dude" or "Baahaaw avange my family" that you get nowadays.
Anonymous
>>14787168 I figure it's got more to do with Calistria really wanting to fuck Shelyn because she's hot and they're both fantastic in bed, but Shelyn knows Calistria wouldn't call her afterwards and isn't interested in sex for its own sake.
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>>14787156 Really? Examples?
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>>14787156 Kressle frowns upon rape and will cut off your dick if you try it when she's around.
Anonymous
>>14787221 Rape in RPG's is usually treated as anything but "grown up".
Laughing God
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>>14787257 "Rape" in rpg is treated the way the players want to. If you only saw or played with children I feel pity for you, but you are not to blame.
If you are mature in any way you can make it do with rape and without it in a convincing manner, contrary to the "herp derp lulz sex" that most manchild and forevervirgin boys get going on.
Anonymous
We need some more FLASHY ASSASSINS! Because everyone knows you should look FABULOUS when killing people.
Laughing God
>>14787291 That's not an assassin. That's an one eyed clown with a giant's razor.
Sadly, it doesn't qualify him as an "assassin".
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>14787150 Best part of that adventure path is that you can release Mal's old rival Shami-Amourae from her prison if you play it right.
Anonymous
>>14787302 Perhaps he's a Jester who is also a barber who uses a machete for an extra close shave. And he's also an assassin.
Anonymous
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Lashonna - Paizo's queen of alignment violation.
Laughing God
>>14787304 >>14787310 There is a difference between a killer and an assassin.
You know who the culprit was when he's a killer.
I can't see you not recognizing that fucker in a crowd of clowns, even. Of clowns!
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>>14787224 is shelyn fey now?
I've not read anything about Shelyn being any sort of lay.
Only sort of godly gettin' ons are between Cayden and Calistria, which I imagine are quite the spectacle, however.
Anonymous
>>14787307 And after giving you important quest info, Shami makes you an offer you damn well better refuse.
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St Iomedae is the best Paizo deity. By far.
Anonymous
>>14787322 >You know who the culprit was when he's a killer. I don't think that that is an objective distinction. It has been said that the best assassins are those who get in closest to their prey, leaving absolutely no room of escape for either of them.
Now, we can argue over whether the "best" assassin would be the one who also manages to get away anyway, but the point remains that an assassin is one who is hired to kill a specific target and to do so as efficiently as possible. Whether they are recognized or not matters little so long as they successfully complete their objective.
Anonymous
>>14787363 >hired No. That's a hitman.
An assassin does it specifically for ideological or political reasons. They're not murderers-for-hire.
For instance, Lee Harvey Oswald or John Wilkes Booth were assassins.
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>>14787334 >>14787307 Actually, I lied.
The absolute best part of that AP is Orgosh the Despoiler.
Seriously.
Anonymous
Is there a larger version of this pic?
Anonymous
So, aside from balance, is there a fluff reason why death attack can't use a ranged weapon? Although if I recall I think the arcane archer has death shot or something.
Laughing God
>>14787363 Again you made a common mistake.
That's also not an assassin. That's a hunter.
"You put your prey against the wall" is a common hunter tact.
Assassins don't 'hunt' that often, they assassinate. That's what assassins do.
And assasination can only occur silently and swiftly or it becomes noisy killing.
>contribootyin with pirate Anonymous
>>14787384 True, that was a grievous error on my part.
The point still stands that an assassin can look as damn well gaudy as he wants so long as the end result is the target lying dead on the floor.
Laughing God
>>14787399 I think you can use it if you can use Sneak Attack, no? 9m/30ft range?
Laughing God
>>14787409 Now I agree partially. Put a "and vanish in the crowd, nowhere to be found" and we are best buddies.
Anonymous
>>14787402 >>14787322 Sounds like pointless arguing of semantics to me.
>>14787384 has it right. Of course you can still be a fucking assassin if everyone finds out it was you. They're not called "political assassinations" for nothing. Anonymous
Laughing God
>>14787426 Who was the guy that killed JFK?
And yeah, semantics are pretty important if you are naming things. Also, one does not exclude one from the other. Assassins, hunters, bountyhunters, mercenaries, killers, cuthroats and whatnot can all be the same and apart.
>example of a hunter not-assassin Anonymous
>>14787423 >>14787402 Some assassins never plan to escape. The best assassination is the one that does not requiree another. See the assassination attempt on lenin, or the assassination of that archduke of austria.
Anonymous
Shut up with the fucking semantics discussion and post more naked elf-babes!
Laughing God
>>14787447 Yes, but it's not optimal. If you can live to serve your ideals one more day you will.
If not, you die a honorable death and that's it.
Anonymous
>>14787415 It says in the ability description "a sneak attack with a melee weapon".
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>14787438 A killer is someone who kills for the sake of killing.
A hunter kills for the thrill of the chase and the struggle.
An assassin simply kills.
Laughing God
Anonymous
>>14787464 An assassin kills for money.
Anonymous
>>14787464 >An assassin simply kills. >A killer is someone who kills for the sake of killing. No, wrong, incorrect. A killer is anyone who kills, for any reason. An assassin is someone who targets a specific person of importance for some reason, be it money or ideology.
Anonymous
>>14787470 No, a hitman kills for a money.
For an assassin, nothing else matters but the death of its target. What happens afterwards is entirely unimportant.
Anonymous
>>14787396 Here you go.
>>14787399 >>14787415 It's probably assumed that you can't really get enough precision unless you're right next to the target.
But technically, according to the rules...
>If an assassin studies his victim for 3 rounds and then makes a sneak attack with a melee weapon that successfully deals damage >with a melee weapon ...it doesn't *quite* explicitly say that the death attack needs to be in melee - just a melee weapon. So by RAW you could use it by throwing a dagger. Or, if you wanted to get cheesy, wield an elven swordbow.
(Note: This is completely against RAI, so don't expect your DM to allow it. Especially not if you only bring it up after rolling the attack in question.)
Anonymous
>>14787457 Often you serve them better by being publicized as the assassin.
Anonymous
Laughing God
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>>14787460 Well, fuck that...
As a DM I'm telling you to get it 9m ranged as well.
>>14787464 Actually, this guy
>>14787384 has the right idea about reasons.
Anonymous
>>14787464 >>14787470 NO.
A HITMAN or a CONTRACT KILLER kills for money.
An ASSASSIN is one who kills for ideological or political reasons, such as John Wilkes Booth assassinating Lincoln, or Lee Harvey Oswald assassinating JFK.
Anonymous
>>14787480 Finally, someone who understands the misuse of the term 'assassin'.
Assassins are NOT mercenaries.
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>>14787479 Of course anyone who kills is technically a "killer", but it's not exactly the sort of title you throw around lightly.
If you call someone a Killer (with a capital K), that generally brings to mind someone who receives some sort of pleasure from the act of killing.
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>>14787467 Lesbianism implied or intended?
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>14787492 In fact, originally the Hashasheem were an order of religious fanatics who murdered problem people in the middle east.
Anonymous
>>14787503 Shit, source on this?
Laughing God
>>14787484 Only if it doesn't put in danger the sister/brotherhood or the cult as whole, or the entire organization.
You can always kill someone and make them a fake culprit for the killing.
It's harder, tricky and always gets messy, but can be done andis not unheard of.
Anonymous
Alright, for every single one of you retards saying that "assassins = exclusively ideology killers"
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/assassin "Fanatical or monetary reasons"
I.E. THEY'LL DO IT FOR MONEY *OR* IDEOLOGY, YOU STUPID SHITBEANS.
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>>14787495 Well they can be. A mercenary can have an ideology to support his activities in addition to money.
Anonymous
>>14787505 Hence ideological, not monetary reasons for killing.
Laughing God
>>14787486 >>14787503 Damn, I'm hungry. I ignored the boobfest and the assassin'sCREEEEEED and gazed directly at the sweets...
Anonymous
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>>14787526 Using it only as it relates to the original sense of the word is retarded. If you wanna do that, you also have to say that you're only an assassin if you're a Muslim who kills crusaders and uses Hashish, otherwise you're just a hitman.
Laughing God
>>14787522 Honey, they don't WANT money, they NEED money.
How do you intend to EAT and LIVE without money?
If you are doing someone a work, why not profit right?
Anonymous
>>14787532 And that's how the assassin get's you.
Next time you go for a cupcake, look behind you, or it may be your last.
Laughing God
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Anonymous
>>14787545 Right, because Oswald and Booth were getting paid? An assassin will take jobs killing people. I've killed your argument as dead as a decent assassin kills his mark. You've lost.
Laughing God
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>>14787560 I fear no backstab.
I play as a Wizard.
Anonymous
>>14787566 >I'm right because I'm wrong Wat.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>14787545 Depends on whether the assassin is freelance or, as is more likely, working for an organization that will provide room and board.
Anonymous
>>14787150 I liek how it assumes that there are high level adventurers in existence silly enough to go into THE FUCKING ABYSS without Protection from Evil (prot/evil protects from domination). No one's stupid enough to go to the Plane of Fire without fire resist...
Anonymous
>>14787573 >I can't interpret his argument! Gotta make it seem like I know what I'm doing! I'm saying that assassins can do a job for money, for an ideological reason, or a mix thereof. What LG was saying is that they do it for the ideology, and the money they take is just a necessity.
Laughing God
>>14787566 Don't fry your greymatter because of me, friend.
You are putting too much effort into it.
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>>14787591 You think that basic reasoning is too much effort? Might want to see a neurology about that.
Anonymous
>>14787591 If fried grey matter is a common problem for you after basic reasoning, you might want to see a neurologist.
Laughing God
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>>14787589 Meh, it can be both. Why not?
We are trying to put labels on things unknown.
>>14787577 But then, the organization gets the money from somewhere, probly contracts.
Anonymous
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>>14787577 I myself actually like the freelance assassin-mercenary strictly because of D&D.
Laughing God
>>14787616 I know u mad, bro.
Stop the mad.
Anonymous
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>>14787384 From Merriam-Webster:
Assassin
2: a person who commits murder; especially : one who murders a politically important person either for hire or from fanatical motives
>either for hire >for hire You guys can claim to be right all you want, the rest of the educated world knows you're wrong...
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>>14787578 She does have Greater Dispel Magic as an SLA listed on her statblock on the next page. I figure any DM running the encounter would be smart enough to use that before employing her seductive gaze (which works as a free action).
She's pretty hax, but that's why you're diploing her and not smiting her.
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>>14787641 I ain't mad. Do you only reply to posts when u mad?
If so, you might wanna take a chill pill.
Anonymous
>>14787517 Does protection from evil work in the abyss ? Even without the spell keys system from planescape, I seem to remember that there always was limitations on magic in the outer planes.
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>>14787685 was meant to point to>>14787578 Anonymous
>>14787685 Yes, 3e's rules declared that the Abyss is only MILDLY evil aligned and MILDLY chaos aligned.
Anonymous
>>14787713 Only Limbo gets to be Strongly Chaos aligned and only Hades gets to be Strongly Evil aligned. I figure that's fair. Gives them something for their purity over the Abyss that wants to have its cake and eat it.
Anonymous
>>14787460 >sneak attack with a melee weapon Screw intent, a dagger is a melee weapon. Ranged death attacks, here we come!
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>>14785880 Combo? What combo?
It sounds like playing as a Ninja (from Complete adventurer) and then turn into Assassin prestige class!
You want a real combo?
Noble (
http://www.tsrinfo.net/archive/d20/nobles.htm ) with assassin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lCD0Syzdhs&feature=related Nobody will know who had hit the king.
Anonymous
>>14787758 The idea that Chaos that is also neutral is more "pure" than Chaos that is also evil is pretty stupid. As to the latter, the same argument that Hades is more "pure" evil than the Abyss brings back memories of how in 2e canon that arcanaloths were hermaphrodites who puppeteered the whole lower planes, etc.
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>>14787771 Screw intent, a bar stool is a melee weapon. Thrown bar stool attacks, here we come!
...actually...
Anonymous
>>14787771 An arrow can also be a melee weapon.
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>>14787827 Tainted toilet paper roll from the nine hells can be also a melee weapon.
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>>14787806 Look at it mechanically. Mildly aligned is a -2 penalty for not having the requisite alignment. Strongly aligned is a -4 penalty.
So in Limbo if you're not chaotic you get a -4 penalty. In the Abyss if you're not chaotic AND evil you get a -4 penalty, with a -2 penalty if you're only one of those.
It seems to fit to me.
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>>14787713 It doesn't compute.
That would be Gehenna, the plane where the yugoloths (the NEUTRAL evil demons which are mercs) live.
Anonymous
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>>14786931 it would be this guy