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Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 02:45:00 No.3073786 View View Reply Original Report

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So, /tg/, what's your angry marines strategy? I'm a new 40k player going with AMs, and based on the newest codex. I don't have a full list. Here's what I got so far:

100: Dick Haggard, Bale Guard Griever (who goes into battle unarmed)

70: Pounder, Cock Knocker sargeant

25: Sergeant
+25: Terminator armor

250: Bale guard squad (5 bale guards)
+10: Great Flaming Banner of Fuck You
+30: Pair of Powerfists (3 pairs)
+(free): Pair of power weapons

160: Terminator Squad (4)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 03:35:00 No.3074016 Report

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have you looked up comissar fuklaw? good HQ unit.

http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Commissar_Fuklaw

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 03:45:00 No.3074063 Report

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>Your ass here
Copying from starcraft are we now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 03:47:00 No.3074073 Report

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>>3074063
Oh they have been for some time. They just don't want to admit it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 03:49:00 No.3074077 Report

Quoted By: >>3074101 >>3074124

SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FUCKING NIGGERFAGGOTS, ANGRY MARINES ARE TOO FUCKING ANGRY TO FUCKING COPY FROM SOME CUNTFUCKING SHITFAGGOTS LIKE YOU OR WHOEVER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE NAMY PAMPY LITTLE PISSASS BITCHNIGGERS

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 03:51:00 No.3074088 Report

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OP here:

Oh, they absolutely are directly out of starcraft. One of the reasons I picked them. And they're one of the last armies that still has a sense of humor (Orks are also funny).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 03:55:00 No.3074101 Report

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>>3074077
Haha, right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 03:58:00 No.3074119 Report

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oh great, trolls

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 04:01:00 No.3074124 Report

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>>3074077
Mm-hm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 04:04:00 No.3074138 Report

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A whirlwind that shoots marines

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 04:12:00 No.3074163 Report

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OP here.

Again, any advice for an AM player? I mean, it kindof was /tg/'s creation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 04:16:00 No.3074187 Report

Quoted By: >>3074219 >>3074232

>>3074124
i do believe Warhammer 40k happened before Starcraft, after that is was just a matter of escalating pauldrons.

Mediocrates !!tG3QhWVtE/n

Mediocrates !!tG3QhWVtE/n Fri 28 Nov 2008 04:20:00 No.3074219 Report

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>>3074187

>after that is was just a matter of escalating pauldrons

Ahahahohgod I laughed so hard I spilled coffee on myself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 04:23:00 No.3074232 Report

Quoted By: >>3074296 >>3074311 >>3074327

>>3074187
Are we discussing Warhammer 40k?

Funny, I thought that we didn't have Angry Marines prior to Starcraft.

But even that's not the point, which you seem to have missed spectacularly.

Take a look at some of the graffiti...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 04:29:00 No.3074285 Report

Quoted By: >>3074311

Blizzard stole from GW.
GW saw what Blizzard did with their plagiarism and good the good stuff back.

They are both corporate thieving bastards par excellence stuck in an eternal cycle of thievery stealing from each others best ideas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 04:32:00 No.3074296 Report

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>>3074232
The graffiti is obviously taken from Starcraft. Blizzard may be no more or less of a thief than GW, but at least they have a sense of humor. And the AM exist purely for the sake of humor. You know, to inject some into the grimdark serious business that is warskub.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 04:34:00 No.3074311 Report

Quoted By: >>3074321 >>3074338

>>3074296
>>3074285
>>3074232
There are many ways to express rage but few that are so singularly elegant as kicking ass. Hivemind is not copying

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 04:34:00 No.3074312 Report

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Fuck me. We are NOT talking about who stole from whom first.

We are talking about the drawfag of THIS image basing his stencil off of something in the StarCraft manual.

What the... FUCK

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 04:36:00 No.3074321 Report

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>>3074311
Being preceded by ten years is not a hivemind.

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Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 04:37:00 No.3074327 Report

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>>3074232

that starcraft fella and the crimson fists share an insignia....i wonder who came first?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 04:38:00 No.3074335 Report

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>>3074327
The Black Panthers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 04:39:00 No.3074338 Report

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>>3074311

OP here. This is a good point. We can all be fucking angry at once. Now who here plays angry marines?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 04:40:00 No.3074342 Report

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>>3074321
A simple three word phrase is bound to pop up independently across the scope of history.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 04:41:00 No.3074348 Report

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>>3074342
The arrow still suggests it's too similar to be a coincidence.

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Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 04:48:00 No.3074366 Report

Quoted By: >>3074375 >>3074409

Your ass here has been the battlecry of angry men since the dawn of English.
I submit exhibit one into evidence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 04:53:00 No.3074375 Report

Quoted By: >>3074392 >>3074395 >>3074398

>>3074366
This is a forgery.

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Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 05:00:00 No.3074392 Report

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>>3074375

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Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 05:01:00 No.3074395 Report

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>>3074375

I wish. It's machine code.

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Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 05:02:00 No.3074398 Report

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>>3074375
You gotta do it right.

Unholy Clown Ninja Maid Admiral Gary, Xom's Champion !!0aKrfPDoCW4

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Unholy Clown Ninja Maid Admiral Gary, Xom's Champion !!0aKrfPDoCW4 Fri 28 Nov 2008 05:05:00 No.3074409 Report

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>>3074366

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Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 09:46:00 No.3075618 Report

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Wow, this is one de-railed thread. Crazy niggers, all of you.

I'll critique in a moment, just bumpan' to make sure this thread doesn't die.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 09:48:00 No.3075632 Report

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100: Dick Haggard, Bale Guard Griever (who goes into battle unarmed)

70: Pounder, Cock Knocker sargeant

25: Sergeant
+25: Terminator armor

25: Sergeant
+10: Dual Storm Bolters

25: Sargeant
+12: Jump Pack

250: Bale guard squad (5 bale guards)
+10: Great Flaming Banner of Fuck You
+30: Pair of Powerfists (3 pairs)
+(free): Pair of power weapons

160: Terminator Squad (4)

150: Cock Knocker Squad (6 Cock Knockers)
+60: Power Feet option
+30: Pair of Powerfists
+10: Pair of Choppas (2 pairs)

100: Angrier Marine Squad (4 Angrier Marines)

180: Devastator Squad (5 Angry Marines)
+50: Plasma Cannon (2 plasma cannons)
+30: Lascannon
+10: Missile Launcher
+15: Heavy Bolter

70: Rhinos (2)

100: Angry Squad (5 Angry Marines)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 10:57:00 No.3075960 Report

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Alright, bro, I've critiqued this list before, but let me collect my recommendations here.

First of all, I calculated it real quick and I think you're over by around 50 points.

Secondly, use this list and you will be slaughtered. I can see what your strategy is vaguely, but the major flaw is that you are simply understaffed. Angry Marines are an elite-style army, which makes them overpriced compared to other armies, but you've picked several of the most overpriced units in the codex on top of that. As a result, your 1500pt. force is barely 30 models, and Angry Marines just don't have the survivability to last long enough with such small numbers.

Also, you need more Troops. Currently you're extremely HQ and Elites heavy, such that you have the absolute bare minimum of Troop units. I know that the more exotic soldiers are tempting because they're so goddamn awesome, but Troops are required for a reason; it's because they will always be the most reliable and cost-effective units available to you, and you want them to be the backbone of your army. Plus only Troops can capture objectives, which will be important to 2/3rds of the games you play.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 10:58:00 No.3075968 Report

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So, my recommendations boil down to a few things:

1. MOAR TROOPS. You need both more squads and more men in each squad. A five-person Marine squad is basically a virgin sacrifice to anyone with good ranged weapons if you have them run across the table, but only five people is a waste of a perfectly good Rhino. I'd say up the squad to ten men and give them a transport to drive out and try to grab an objective. Then add another squad of the same size. Seriously.

2. The Cock Knockers or Bale Guard will do fine at six/five men if you put them in a Rhino, I suppose (though it still is something of a waste). I recommend giving the Bale Guard a Rhino (or a Drop Pod) and putting them on the attack, while keeping the Cock Knockers behind to play defensive linemen against invading enemies.

3. I know you want to be infantry-focused, but Devastators are simply not a cost-effective choice for long-range firepower. I cannot recommend tanks enough, and I would instead pick up a Predator or even a Predator Angrinator if you want to do the whole shooting-Marines-into-battle thing. The Devastator is also cool, since it's basically a bulldozer with a big gun in it, but it only has a 24" range.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Nov 2008 11:08:00 No.3076013 Report

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4. Marines with jump packs are awesome, but the Angrier squad is simply an unnecessary point sink that will die early.

5. The terminator squad is good. If you want a "sacrificial lamb" squad to distract your opponents from the real threat, use them for that, since the can deep strike, shoot a whole lot, and have the armor to keep them alive for at least two turns in most situations.

6. You really don't need both Dick Haggard and Pounder in the same list. They're awesome, but their special attacks aren't really that indispensible. Personally I'd go with Dick since he gets more attacks and has a better name.

Cutting out the Angrier squad, Pounder, and the Devastators gives you 350pts. to spend on these changes. I cannot stress enough that you simply need more dudes on the board, or else you'll get wiped out before you can even get to the assault that you love so much. I hope this helps!

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