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Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 01:49:00 No.462237 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>462371

OKay /trv/ I have a question which bugs me, why is it there is so much hate for LA due to sprawl yet people love Tokyo which is the king of sprawl?
I'm not trolling, just genuinely interested. I think it might have to do with most of LA being single story buildings that much have useless plots of grass around them but I want a different perspective.
Pin unrelated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 02:04:00 No.462244 Report

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I'd say they just hate LA in general, and tack on "sprawl" as part of the reason, which is mostly untrue, but adds fuel to the fire.

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Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 02:08:00 No.462245 Report

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Not so many black people in Tokyo.

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Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 02:24:00 No.462249 Report

Quoted By: >>462254

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfdC_0C2E6o

this is why

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Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 02:49:00 No.462254 Report

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>>462249
yeeeeeep, that's pretty much why..

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 03:15:00 No.462255 Report

Quoted By: >>462262 >>462263

I've never been to either city, but it might have to do with the fact that Tokyo has decent transit compared to LA's non-existing transit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 04:36:00 No.462262 Report

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>>462255
^This

You can't even compare LA's transportation to the system in Tokyo because it's so horrid. The thing with LA is that when you go to more active areas (Downtown LA, etc) you get more idiots and assholes and when you go into the smaller cities there's less idiots but there's absolutely nothing to do. But then again there's nothing to do in LA in general :\

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Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 04:46:00 No.462263 Report

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>>462255
I was gonna post this. You can get anywhere in the city and the suburbs using nothing but the trains and subways. Plus they have buses too, which may even save you a few minutes of walking every now and then.

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Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 04:55:00 No.462266 Report

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Los Angeles is just plain ugly, photo was taken on approach to LAX. Never been to Tokyo but I've lived a few places in L.A. over the years, it's less a concrete jungle as it is a concrete wasteland (with only a few exceptions.) The problem with public transit is that the city is so spread out, makes it difficult to build an effective public transit system.

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Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 05:22:00 No.462268 Report

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in la you have to drink and drive, rely on a designated driver or pay cab fare

in tokyo you can drink on the street and take trains anywhere and everywhere safely and conveniently

i spent two years in tokyo and came back LA and hated it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 05:34:00 No.462270 Report

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Because this site is full of weeaboos.

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Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 05:46:00 No.462273 Report

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i've never heard much about LA, but I suppose it's because in Tokyo, everything is usually very efficient (and asian) so everything runs smoothly, wheras in LA you have negro crime, violence, etc. etc. on large scales. I'm sure that exists in Tokyo as well, but it's kept down a lot better than in America.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 14:31:00 No.462355 Report

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The difference between suburban Tokyo and LA is that you aren't isolated in Tokyo. Cities in Japan are set up for convenience. There's shit around you like stores, trains, shops, and bars. Americans like big houses and big cars and could care less about their real quality of life. I can't believe people in LA tolerate spending half their day in a car stuck in traffic.

I'm neither a Weeaboo or an American btw.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 14:34:00 No.462359 Report

Quoted By: >>462371

LA is the land of no public transit, stucko box houses, strip-mall based growth, 2mile an hour traffic, smog, and expensive. Not necessarily a bad place to live if you got cash, but for the most part, it isn't really a city but more of a poor person holding ground.
With all that said, there are nice parts. But LA has gotten worse over the years and is still on the decline.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 15:08:00 No.462369 Report

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>LA Sprawl
>Hundreds of thousands of Cul-de-Sac houses which all largely resemble the house before it
>Creates massive traffic jams, spreads too fast for necessary infrastructure to catch up, 100% reliant on the car
>Has only popped up in the last 50 years or so, and only because of people wanting bigger houses with more land
>Represents the worst of consumerist society

>Tokyo Sprawl
>Only exists due to the fact that Tokyo is the biggest fucking city on the planet, and is more of a conglomerate of dozens of smaller city-areas all grouped into one
>Has existed for centuries, and has been a major city in Japan since at least the 17th century
>The "Sprawl" is actually just an extension of the city itself; a never-ending landscape of highrises and factories, with each area largely self-sustaining
>Has been created over hundreds of centuries, and only because TOKYO IS THE BIGGEST FUCKING CITY ON THE PLANET.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 May 2011 15:21:00 No.462371 Report

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>>462359
LA is improving its downtown. Metro has been expanding its light rail routes (albeit very slowly). But other than the "getting worse" part, I agree your description of stucco boxes, crappy transit system, traffic, etc. And I'll add that there are a lot of people that want to keep it that way.

>>462237
How is Tokyo the king of "sprawl?" The region associated with the city may cover a large physical area, but it's built densely so it's space that is used more efficiently. Also important, Tokyo is built to a human scale, designed for people to access on foot.

Los Angeles (and other US suburban metros) is true sprawl. Everything is spread out more than necessary and the scale is built around automobiles; you need to drive to get anwhere and do anything.

Your question breaks down to one of two things: A generic "Why do people hate sprawl?" or a more generic "Los Angeles vs Tokyo" thread.

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