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Anonymous Thu 06 Nov 2008 01:06:00 No.75328 View View Reply Original Report

American here.

So I would like to get a second passport from an EU country, it would make my professional life way easier.
I have ancestors from germany, irland, england, Scotland, and sweden. I think also some swiss and austrian but from way back. I am studying in sweden now, but im here on a student visa. where is easiest and does anyone have any info sources? I do not want to give up US citizenship and I cannot just marry a EU citizen as my GF would not be happy about that. I also have allot of education as many immigration boards require. Ask me any other things I am missing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Nov 2008 01:18:00 No.75330 Report

Quoted By: >>75336 >>75337

Are you black or muslim, it could help you

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Nov 2008 01:18:00 No.75331 Report

Quoted By: >>75337 >>75341 >>75396

You don't have to give up US citizenship. Marrying to get citizenship is also stupid, so good you're not going to do that. You can recover German nationality if a parent was German and satisfies a long list of rules. Ireland goes back to grandparents. UK goes back to a parent and there's a lot of rules. Sweden also requires a parent. You could naturalize in Sweden after your university time is up, but you'd have to do retarded military service there and that could jeopardize your US citizenship. If you can get one of the nationalities by blood to work out, I'd suggest Belgium, as the residency requirement is only three years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Nov 2008 01:24:00 No.75336 Report

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>>75330
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Nov 2008 01:27:00 No.75337 Report

Quoted By: >>75340

>>75331
no parents or grandparents from Europe, I am mostly 5th generation American. the closest is 1 great grandparent from Sweden, but it is hard to prove. The records are shit from then and his last name is insainly common. The other is Scottish and easier to prove, but still 4 generations ago.
>>75330
ya I know, but I am not. Look at what countrys my ancestors are from. I am a Jew, but left Germany in 1860s, so I dont think I can get the fast track right to return.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Nov 2008 01:33:00 No.75340 Report

Quoted By: >>75352

>>75337
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_return
Check this anyway. You may be able to make Irish citizenship work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Nov 2008 01:42:00 No.75341 Report

Quoted By: >>75349 >>75352

>>75331
Germany doesn't like dual citizenship, do they? A lot of the EU countries don't care but some places like NL (I think) won't give you citizenship without renouncing your current one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Nov 2008 01:43:00 No.75342 Report

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>>75328
>Malta
Not likely to happen unless you plan on staying in the country for 18 years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Nov 2008 02:03:00 No.75349 Report

Quoted By: >>75355

>>75341
Germany doesn't like it, but if it's by birth you can usually retain dual citizenship. You can also acquire another one with "permission" from the government. I believe the dual citizenship laws are currently being discussed for change in ye olde Deutschland.

Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_nationality_law#By_acquisition_of_another_citizenship

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Nov 2008 02:07:00 No.75352 Report

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>>75340
I have looked.
>>75341
I think the germans make exceptions for jews and others who where forced to leave. but not for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Nov 2008 02:21:00 No.75355 Report

Quoted By: >>75373

>>75349
op here.
obviously not by birth for me

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Nov 2008 03:22:00 No.75363 Report

Quoted By: >>75397

anyone know about danish citizenship? I hear they require you to give up your 1st citizenship?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Nov 2008 04:01:00 No.75369 Report

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think you have to be resident in uk for 7 years to be eligable for british citizenship, or have one parent who was born in uk

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Nov 2008 04:26:00 No.75373 Report

Quoted By: >>75392 >>77207

>>75355
4th or 5th generation? That's ridiculous.

I'm a 1st generation American and I can't even get dual citizenship in my home country.

You're gonna have to go in the long lines at the airport, just deal with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Nov 2008 05:14:00 No.75392 Report

Quoted By: >>75397

>>75373
OP here
ya I dont mean for tourism. I would like to stay in Europe after I finish school in Sweden. I do not really want to stay in sweden though. what about otehr residence permits and citizenship? All I kno wis england has a greencard type thing, based on points.

That Ayn Rand Fag !VvKTKXoMb.

That Ayn Rand Fag !VvKTKXoMb. Thu 06 Nov 2008 06:23:00 No.75396 Report

Quoted By: >>75397 >>75449

>>75331
Only if OP wants to get caught in the punishing Belgian tax system forever...
A few months back a policeman turned up at my parent's house with a bill for unpaid taxes I never even owed... I nearly ended up in court. Luckily, I have a good lawyer who got me out of it by severing all ties between me and Belgium. I'd worked a summer job in Brussels last year (tax free because I was a student) and they wante nearly half of what I'd earned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Nov 2008 06:32:00 No.75397 Report

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>>75363
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_nationality_law
Also, read their immigration site.
>>75392
Belgium is 3 years of residence. Ireland is 4. All the other countries in the EU are between 5 and 12.
>>75396
I don't think Belgium taxes non-resident citizens though on their income, so as long as he didn't live in Belgium, he'd be fine.
>>75392
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_nationality_law#British_citizenship_by_naturalisation
This may be your quickest bet. If you can make a good case to the Home Secretary, they may just give you citizenship. Good luck with that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Nov 2008 16:15:00 No.75449 Report

Quoted By: >>75451 >>75709 >>76411

>>75396
OP here
Actually, I am interested in working there (brussels). the problem is language and that the country is 1/2 retarded (walonia).
I am not sure if I need citizenship or just a permanent residence, since I want it to keep my work options flexible and hedge my bets against economic problems in the EU or US.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Nov 2008 16:25:00 No.75451 Report

Quoted By: >>75456

>>75449

Brussels is not Wallonia, fgt. Besides, most people I've met there spoke English. Especially young ones.

WTF do you mean by "retarded" anyway? It's not really Africa or Central Europe kind of retarded, you know?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Nov 2008 17:01:00 No.75456 Report

Quoted By: >>75458

>>75451
Op again, I take it your from Wallonia? If not it is just south of Brussels. I have no problem with francophiles, I am just not sure about employment in a french speaking city.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Nov 2008 17:06:00 No.75458 Report

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>>75456

No, I'm not from Wallonia, I'm not even Belgian. But Brussels is not part of Wallonia. It's a French-speaking island carved out of the surrounding Flanders (think Washington DC) and it feels more European than Belgian or Walloon anyway. The relative economic fail of Wallonia therefore does not apply to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Nov 2008 22:04:00 No.75709 Report

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>>75449
Citizenship and permanent residence are essentially the same, only with citizenship you get a passport, get to vote, and don't have to pay taxes on your global income if you move away. I'd go for citizenship myself.

Also, the Eurozone is inching toward a recession. If your motivation for a second citizenship is economic reasons, i'd get a passport from a Central/South American nation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2008 03:22:00 No.76336 Report

Quoted By: >>77242 >>77804

>>76333
Yeah, if OP is looking some kind of tax cuts or easier income without being a citizen just go back to Usa where you belong. We don't want american leeches here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2008 03:23:00 No.76337 Report

Quoted By: >>76375

>>76332

Oh shut the fuck up.

(eurofag here)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2008 05:14:00 No.76375 Report

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>>76337
Thank you.

Xenophobia is never cool no matter where you are from.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2008 05:27:00 No.76378 Report

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>>76332
go be a dick sucker in /b/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2008 05:46:00 No.76380 Report

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In Holland:

* vijf jaar onafgebroken in het Koninkrijk der Nederlanden wonen of, indien men met een Nederlander is getrouwd (of een geregistreerd partner heeft, of op grond van de relatie een verblijfsvergunning heeft), drie jaar met die Nederlander hebben samengewoond;
* het inburgeringsexamen hebben behaald, of het Nederlands kunnen beheersen (aan te tonen met een NT2 diploma: Nederlands als tweede taal of een met positief resultaat afgelegde Verkorte Vrijstellingstoets)

So basically living for 5 consecutive years in the Netherlands, marrying a Dutch person, or passing the Inburgerings exam, or showing that you can speak our language. Good luck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Nov 2008 08:23:00 No.76411 Report

Quoted By: >>77804

>>75449
>the problem is language
true, which ones do you know? (English & Dutch are better than French, but it depends where you work)

>and that the country is 1/2 retarded (walonia).
more true than truth itself

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2008 21:11:00 No.77207 Report

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>>75373
which country?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2008 23:32:00 No.77242 Report

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>>76336

Tell the Irish that, about half of us are eligible for citizenship

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2008 23:34:00 No.77243 Report

Quoted By: >>77246 >>77319

how come most Eurofags aren't creative enough to come up with something more than a simple tricolor or cross.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Nov 2008 23:38:00 No.77246 Report

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>>77243

How come Amerifags aren't creative enough to come up with anything besides 13 stripes representing the original colonies with a blue field in the top right corner with a star for each state

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Nov 2008 00:26:00 No.77269 Report

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Try to apply for the "right to return" in the UK, Ireland, Sweden, Switzerland. It probably won't work, but if you have the documentation to prove it then it's always worth the shot. It'll cost you though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Nov 2008 01:34:00 No.77305 Report

Quoted By: >>77804

>>75328
1) You don't have "allot" of education because you're still on a student visa studying.
2) You'll need experience in the field of your studies, usually 1 or 2 years after you complete your bachelors.
3) It will depend on your degree, if it's not classed as highly skilled (usually science, math etc), then your degree won't help you that much.
4) If you're a competent speaker of the native language of the country you want to move to that'll boost your chances
5) A solid job offer (in the field relating to your degree) helps immensely. Not a job offer of "waiting tables" but as a Chemist if you did Chemistry, etc.
6) A certain amount of money (usually the minimum is a few thousand dollars) so you won't become a "burden" or rely on welfare.
7) A clean background check and a clean bill of health (obviously)

Once you have all these it's time to pay out the ass for non-refundable "processing fees" and have interviews at consulates! Enjoy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Nov 2008 02:10:00 No.77319 Report

Quoted By: >>77844

>>77243
because more is not necessarily better

think overcrownd american prison system

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2008 03:54:00 No.77804 Report

Quoted By: >>77808

OP here
>>76411
english, crazy shitty danish and similarly 8 month old child korean...so basically english. swedish is for homos.
>>76336
Blow me I am not a leach, I want an EU
passport so I can work easier.
>>77305
1 I am finishing my 9th year of college(2nd masters).
2. thats the same everywhere
3. architecture masters and envrionmental engineering
4. flemish, dutch, all scandinavian, and any other small countrys languages will be replaced by english.
5. no shit
6. check
7. (obviously) thanks!
WTF ok to all future posters I am not a retarded 20 year old college student. I just have had problems figuring what country I can get a passport from easily or a permanent residency. most govt websites are surprisingly uninformative and/or missing critical bits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2008 03:59:00 No.77808 Report

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>>77804
>WTF ok to all future posters I am not a retarded 20 year old college student. I just have had problems figuring what country I can get a passport from easily or a permanent residency.

We already gave you some good options. You're not dong much to help us filter the results.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2008 05:09:00 No.77833 Report

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>4. flemish, dutch, all scandinavian, and any other small countrys languages will be replaced by english.

OH

HO

HO

I SAY GOOD SIR, A JOLLY GOOD JAPE YOU HAVE THERE. JOLLY GOOD INDEED.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2008 05:49:00 No.77844 Report

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>>77319

We don't have a crown, we've evolved past believing in ugly old bitches with magic vaginas

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2008 06:42:00 No.77865 Report

Quoted By: >>77895

Sort of off topic but I had polish grand parents, any chance I could get a polish passport even though one of them is dead and the other is dying?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Nov 2008 08:09:00 No.77895 Report

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>>77865
Yes, but i'm fairly certain military service is involved. Some anon said this isn't true, but i haven't found evidence of this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_nationality_law

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