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Alborz Sun 23 Nov 2008 13:34:00 No.81139 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>82106

Who has been there?
How have you liked/disliked it?

I'm just curious how a tourist takes it as opposed to me, a Persian/Turkmen with family in Iran. Basically, I wonder how much I'm missing as an Iranian, idk maybe you guys see more or know more than me?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Nov 2008 13:44:00 No.81141 Report

Quoted By: >>81144

>Turkmen

Haha, you wish you were Iranian.

Enjoy being a typical dumb Turk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Nov 2008 13:44:00 No.81143 Report

Quoted By: >>81144

You're not missing much, brah. Fascinating history, cradle of civilisation and all that crap, but it's basically been fucked over by an intolerable version of Islam (inb4 all Islam is intolerable...well most of it is). You won't get much out of Iran that you can't get from Turkey.

Alborz

Alborz Sun 23 Nov 2008 13:54:00 No.81144 Report

Quoted By: >>81359

>>81141
L-o-l, 26% of Iranians speak a Turkic language you idiot. And there are 3 million Turkmen in Iran, if you know anything about Gorgan, North Khorasan or Bojnord [or if you were Iranian] you would know.

>>81143
Oh cool, I've been to Iran like 5/6 times now but never been to Turkey, definitely somewhere I have to go this summer :D and agreed, the government ruins it all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Nov 2008 17:38:00 No.81176 Report

Quoted By: >>81192

I heard people in Iran were very friendly with tourists, as there are not a lot of them.
I have also been told that women were quite hot and not as "shy" as we could think, regarding it's an ultra-muslim country.

Alborz

Alborz Sun 23 Nov 2008 20:15:00 No.81192 Report

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>>81176
Yeah they are; one Japanese tourist even took a picture with me .

Pyromaniac

Pyromaniac Sun 23 Nov 2008 20:27:00 No.81199 Report

Quoted By: >>81203

Is it true, that Iranian part of west caspian border is part of historic Azerbaijan?

Alborz

Alborz Sun 23 Nov 2008 20:31:00 No.81203 Report

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>>81199
Hmm, this question is worded a bit weirdly.
Yes, you are right, however it is more like Azarbaycan has been part of Iran, not that Azarbaycan was its own country/seperate entity. Azarbaycan has been part of the Iranian empire until the Russians attacked and Iran decided to agree to let go a part of it.

Pyromaniac

Pyromaniac Sun 23 Nov 2008 20:36:00 No.81204 Report

Quoted By: >>81208 >>81212

>>81203

Have you heard about some kind of separatistic movements in Iran?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Nov 2008 20:44:00 No.81206 Report

Quoted By: >>81212 >>81213

is ahmedinejad a good guy or the fascist dictator fox news shows him out to be?

Alborz

Alborz Sun 23 Nov 2008 20:46:00 No.81208 Report

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>>81204
In regards to Azarbaycan? Yes I have.
Basically what's going is Pan-Turks want Southern Azarbaycan to reunite with Northern Azarbaycan because they believe Azaris are Turkic.
Then there are Pan-Iranists who think Azaris are Iranic.

Personally I think that they are both but I'll get into that later.

Within Iran itself there are very very small groups that promote seperation, but no-one really pays attention to them as they are just young hooligans wanting attention [seriously, if you know any Iranian Azaris ask them, haha].

They do have some valid points, i.e. promotion of Azari language and culture in Iran, etc. However this is more of inclusion rather than "let's break off from you guys". I do not know one IRANIAN Azari that wants to seperate from Iran; actually they want Azarbaycan [North] to reunite with Iran!

There are quite a few Northern Azaris that want Southern Azarbaycan to join them, however. Most of these separatist groups are not Iranian.

Alborz

Alborz Sun 23 Nov 2008 20:49:00 No.81212 Report

Quoted By: >>81222 >>81897

>>81204
And honestly, the vast majority of these separatist groups are fueled by western powers [i.e. the UK and Russia in the past, now USA]. I know this sounds like a political rant but seriously they want us [Asians] to be weak; this is why the Russians promoted nationalism within Turkic peoples [i.e. Turkmen, Uzbek etc] so that they would only care about their own communities and not unite against the Communists, and the same for Iran [i.e. they promote seperation for Azaris, Arabs, Kurds, Balochis, etc]. But the vast vast majority of minority Iranians are against seperations. Some people may not believe me but the best thing is to ask them yourselves and see what they think.

>>81206
Bahahaha :D He's a joke in Iran, no-one takes him seriously :D Everyone makes fun of him.

Alborz

Alborz Sun 23 Nov 2008 20:58:00 No.81213 Report

Quoted By: >>81614

>>81206
But don't get me wrong though; the vast majority [like 95%] of Iranians are against the current dictatorship regime .

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Anonymous !MPGk0kAQNU Sun 23 Nov 2008 21:26:00 No.81222 Report

Quoted By: >>81236 >>81362

>>81212

Does Russia still wield any power in Azerbaijan and other former Iranic-states? And how much power does Iran wield in them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Nov 2008 21:51:00 No.81226 Report

Quoted By: >>81362

The OP picture makes me feel all warm and fuzzy. :)

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Anonymous Sun 23 Nov 2008 22:22:00 No.81229 Report

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Anonymous Sun 23 Nov 2008 22:52:00 No.81236 Report

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>>81222

Azerbaijan has been trying to be pro-Western recently, but after the Russian invasion of Georgia things may change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2008 07:53:00 No.81359 Report

Quoted By: >>81362 >>81393

>>81144
Enjoy being an uneducated, NON-IRANIAN/NON-PERSIAN Turk, faggot. You nomadic barbarians are the scum of Iran.

Alborz

Alborz Mon 24 Nov 2008 08:28:00 No.81362 Report

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>>81359
Goh boxor, aslan Irani hasti? Man ta hala nemidunestam ke Azaria nomad budan l-o-l. Fagat madar bozorgam Turkmen hast, va aslan ageh kamelan Torkoman budam hich fargi nadare, barinke man as shoma belaxare bishtar Irani hastam.

>>81222
I'm actually not too sure about that :O Russia that is. Iran doesn't either, but I know that Tajikistan, Armenia and Afghanistan are pretty close to Iran. No idea about Azerbaijan.

>>81226
I know eh :]

Alborz

Alborz Mon 24 Nov 2008 08:30:00 No.81363 Report

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Also, can we shut up about politics now prease >:

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Anonymous !MPGk0kAQNU Mon 24 Nov 2008 10:11:00 No.81393 Report

Quoted By: >>81521

Well, I was there 2 years ago with some Norwegian friends (I'm Iranian). We might go again this summer.

They liked it a lot. We spent most of our time in Tehran and we basically slept until 4-5PM, then just went out partying until 4-5AM, illegally of course. Oh and kalleh pacheh every morning!

As far as you missing out... Iran is still the same shit hole it was after the Islamic Revolution, it just has a lot more high rises.

>>81359

Also, don't be fucking stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2008 18:35:00 No.81484 Report

Quoted By: >>81594

I've been wanting to visit Iran ever since I saw some BBC doco on google video a while ago. The country's pretty hard done by as far as media coverage is concerned. Ahmadinejad has some salient political points to make regarding certain foreign affairs, but he's piss-poor at image management despite being rather charismatic personally. Apparently his domestic policy is pretty patchy (a foreigner can't really know).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2008 18:39:00 No.81485 Report

Quoted By: >>81594 >>81598

Also my grasp of Iran's 20th century history could be better, but tell me this, Iranians: surely a bunch of stuffy old clerics is preferable to a pseudo-royal proto-Saddam who willingly answered to Israel and the US?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Nov 2008 21:46:00 No.81521 Report

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>>81393
Impressive.

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Anonymous !MPGk0kAQNU Tue 25 Nov 2008 01:40:00 No.81594 Report

Quoted By: >>81597 >>81995 >>82064

>>81484

Well, he's just playing to the religious-right, sorta like Bush. And yeah, terrible domestic policy... sorta like Bush.

>>81485

Neither in my opinion. Although, the Islamic regime is far more oppressive and brutal than the Shah's, but at the very least, we were respected under the Shah's regime and I think that is what gets to most Iranians - that our 10,000 year old history is washed away simply because of 30 years of bad governance.

Pic is what some consider "the good ol' days".

Alborz

Alborz Tue 25 Nov 2008 01:42:00 No.81597 Report

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>>81594
Seconded everything this guy said.

Alborz

Alborz Tue 25 Nov 2008 01:42:00 No.81598 Report

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>>81485
And I thought I asked for NO politics here :/

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2008 02:37:00 No.81614 Report

Quoted By: >>81617 >>81632

>>81213
>But don't get me wrong though; the vast majority [like 95%] of Iranians are against the current dictatorship regime .

Don't get me wrong but if that's the case but they are too dumb or lazy or lack the balls to kick the Mullahs out then they deserve their shitty dictatorship.

I guess it's the old case of "well, it ain't that bad and could be much worse" and people have arranged themselves with the situation.

Alborz

Alborz Tue 25 Nov 2008 02:42:00 No.81617 Report

Quoted By: >>81632

>>81614
oh shut up already,
this board is about TRAVEL, not politics, take that shit elsewhere.

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Anonymous !MPGk0kAQNU Tue 25 Nov 2008 03:52:00 No.81632 Report

Quoted By: >>81635

>>81614

It's not as simple as that because it basically comes down to; they have guns and we don't.

And don't think the people in Iran are sitting on their asses, there are protests almost every week. The IRI is slowly chipping away because of it's own incompetence and corruption.

The Iranian people just need a small nudge and another revolution will happen. Same thing happened with the Shah.

>>81617

Baradar, sorry for hijacking your thread but you can't expect a conversation about Iran to not include politics.

But anyways, here's a bunch of beautiful photos of Iran for all to enjoy. http://www.worldisround.com/articles/73022/

Alborz

Alborz Tue 25 Nov 2008 03:58:00 No.81635 Report

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>>81632
No you're fine, it's just that I try to keep it to a minimum so people don't say stupid things and ruin the thread.
Also, thanks for the link :D

Alborz

Alborz Tue 25 Nov 2008 04:00:00 No.81637 Report

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Basically I don't mind that they ask questions about the politics and people of Iran, but when they make definitive statements all on their own without answering any questions, especially if they don't know any Iranians themselves, then it distracts from the topic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Nov 2008 22:44:00 No.81860 Report

Quoted By: >>81981

The problem for people opposing the current Iranian state is their Secret Police, right? And the fact that a religious group has the right to say who is allowed to run for President/congress?

As I have understood it, no person that says that he want to change to current system will be allowed to run for president and if he makes a lot of changes, he might not be allowed to enter the next time.

And women are disallowed from the start ... right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Nov 2008 01:10:00 No.81897 Report

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>>81212
>Russians promoted nationalism within Turkic peoples [i.e. Turkmen, Uzbek etc]
Retard alert. Lern2internationalism and lack of ethnic tensions in the Soviet Union, up until Gorbachev started fucking things up, and the Sumgayit pogrom.

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Anonymous !MPGk0kAQNU Wed 26 Nov 2008 07:55:00 No.81981 Report

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>>81860

1. Yep, there's a screening process, so only those in line with the IRI's principles can run.

2. Pretty much - but if you ever publicly said you wanted to change the system, you would wake up the next day dead.

And even if someone was able to run and got elected as President, their power is limited, as the Supreme Leader has the final word on everything.

3. Women are "allowed" to run but during the screening process they are all rejected.

Pick related, they are the Basij. Basically, the Ayatollah's personal army. They are the ones who go around cracking skulls when need be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Nov 2008 08:04:00 No.81985 Report

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terrorist

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Nov 2008 08:35:00 No.81995 Report

Quoted By: >>81997 >>82004

>>81594

>>Although, the Islamic regime is far more oppressive and brutal than the Shah's

You are RETARDED.

It's bad there now, I agree, but it is in no way better than what it was under the shah.

And don't give the scarf women wear as an arguement. Under the Shah, they were banned from wearing it. Now, they are forced to. Either way, they were oppressed. At least now they have the ability to vote for things to slowly change.

Which was happening until Bush gave his axis of evil speech, and then everyone voted for the conservative party.

Alborz

Alborz Wed 26 Nov 2008 08:45:00 No.81997 Report

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>>81995
>It's bad there now, I agree, but it is in no way better than what it was under the shah.

Umm I don't understand, your tone says that it's better now, but here you just said that it was better before. Which one is it?

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Anonymous !MPGk0kAQNU Wed 26 Nov 2008 09:03:00 No.82004 Report

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>>81995

Don't be stupid.

>>Under the Shah, they were banned from wearing it.

You're thinking about Reza Shah, not his son.

>> At least now they have the ability to vote for things to slowly change.

What country in the 1930's let women vote? Again, you're thinking about Reza Shah and not his son.

Mohammad Reza Shah allowed women to vote in 1962 under his "White Revolution".

By the way, when I said "the Islamic regime is far more oppressive and brutal than the Shah's regime", I also meant on the side of freedom of speech and religious freedoms, not solely woman's rights.

If the Shah was good for anything it was for woman's rights and minority/religious rights because for every other right, he was shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Nov 2008 13:03:00 No.82043 Report

Quoted By: >>82047

/trv/ - world politics

Alborz

Alborz Wed 26 Nov 2008 13:21:00 No.82047 Report

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>>82043
Lol srsly, I think the people that actually went to Iran or are curious are scared off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Nov 2008 15:07:00 No.82064 Report

Quoted By: >>82069

>>81594
WOAH.

Sand people that look civilized.

Alborz

Alborz Wed 26 Nov 2008 15:51:00 No.82069 Report

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>>82064
They don't just /look/ civilized :|

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Nov 2008 20:15:00 No.82106 Report

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>>81139
nice looking food, but I don't see any kookoo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Nov 2008 10:09:00 No.82229 Report

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damn i remember making a post about ahmedinejad...guess all these empty links are about that :3

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