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Christianity:
- People in the Roman Empire were being put up on crosses all the time, it was a standard way to execute people (who weren't full citizens of the Empire). Especially troublemakers, like, say, stray prophets. (Notice the Bible providing zero details on the crucifixion process; the intended audience were all too familiar with those anyway, thank you very much.)
- At the time of Jesus, some half of Judea's population went around calling themselves «son of God»; the other half being women.
- A certain mr Saul was a social climber with a handicap; he had Roman citizenship. And for all that the Jewish church might cooperate with the Roman occupiers, they didn't have to like Romans. Which created a glass ceiling for Saul. Change his name to Paul, start a new religion, and hey presto: problem solved, as the new religion ditched stuff like ethnic purity demands &shit.
Holocaust:
- The main evidence for the whole thing, seems to be the existence of KZ camps. Which is a bit like saying «This is the house where the (alleged) murder took place; there really is a house here, ergo the murder really did take place and the defendant really is guilty».
Fun Fact: The KZ camps went up to deal with thought-criminals, like Communists, Social Democrats and the like. Followed closely by gays, mentally handicapped, Jehovah's Witnesses(!) and whoever else the Party had decided, in its infinite wisdom, to not like. Only then did someone think to add Jews to the list; until then, they'd largely been kept in the ghettos inherited from centuries past.
Fun Fact: KZ camps were not invented by the Nazis, nor were ghettos (or, for that matter, eugenics). The Nazis just saw others doing it, and liked what they saw and copied it. All they really did was turn it up to eleven.
Fun Fact: Have a Sadistic Empire (like the 3rd Reich) put a large crowd into an internment camp, especially people that the Sadistic Empire really hates, and stuff like medical care is going to be half-hearted at best. Cue random infectious disease, watch said undesirables die by the truckload.
Fun Fact: Said infectious diseases include typhus and cholera. Who's been hardest at work belittling the pain and suffering involved in dying from those, Revisionists or anti-Revisionists? («Most died from these diseases» being deliberately misinterpreted as «KZ camps were really five-star luxury hotels» &shit? Srsly?)
Fun Fact: Even after actually hearing out some of the Revisionists, I've yet to hear anyone describe KZ camps as anything other than (to the effect of) «sadistic hellholes, by design».
Obviously, cue random actual Neo-Nazi claiming the Jews simply had it coming, and/or lamenting that the Nazis didn't get them all, or some shit like that. Even including those, count the voices claiming the KZ camps didn't actually exist (or shit like that). Anyone?
(cricket, cricket)
- «There are still people around who survived the KZ camps!»
Well no shit, Sherlock! With so many people rounded up like the rats which the Nazis thought them to be, anything short of actual death camps dedicated to systematic mass extermination, is bound to leave survivors. And again: the existence of KZ camps only really proves the existence of KZ camps.
This whole premise is a bit like saying «brutal murderer = eats babies»: In reality, murdering someone (even brutally) is not the same as wanting to eat them. And intentionally mixing up the two, is a piss-poor excuse for criminology.
But replace «brutal murderer» with «wears swastikas», and «eats babies» with «massacres Jews by the million», and watch what happens to simple logic…
