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Silent Hill

Anonymous !!ooPPuqnTfWS Fri 17 Feb 2012 18:37:00 No.129919462 View View Reply Original Report

I want your opinions, /v/.

Which Silent Hill game was/is the best and why?

>I'll start

Silent Hill 2

>James Sunderland is just an awesome yet confused character in general
>Actually felt sorry for the characters in this game
>The OST in this game was chilling, but brilliant
>+1 for Dog Ending
>+1 for Chainsaw
>+9000 for sub-stories, one of my favourite traits of the Silent Hill series

Controls could have been improved, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 18:39:00 No.129919543 Report

Quoted By: >>129919640

the first one, since its the only one original, but if you cant past the poor 3d engine, then second

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 18:40:00 No.129919640 Report

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>>129919543
Really?

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 18:41:00 No.129919707 Report

Quoted By: >>129919873 >>129922825

Silent Hill 3.

It improves on everything in 2 aside from the central characters personnal story. Everything else is tigheter more attractive and more atmospheric. There are better scares and the side characters are more human and interesting.

Its just a better game than the second, but the second was self contained and as such it gets all the praise and wanking and developers remaking it endlessly with slightly different plots.

SH 2 is the series shining point and its curse that it will never escape.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 18:44:00 No.129919873 Report

Quoted By: >>129920382 >>129920901 >>129943343

>>129919707
In my honest opinion, they should've stopped at number 3. Number 4, Silent Hill: The Room, was not actually supposed to have been a Silent Hill game.

Silent Hill 3's bathroom/toilet/mirror scene was pretty fucking amazing, I have to say.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 18:48:00 No.129920073 Report

Quoted By: >>129923017

Those eyes..

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 18:52:00 No.129920382 Report

Quoted By: >>129920716 >>129921401

>>129919873

Sure it was started as a side project apart from the main series but it was changed into being a full Silent Hill game very very early on in development. Its a full title and part of the series. Its broken and its main character is terrible but its worth battling through it just to get to the end game. Which is amoung some of the best SH areas and moments the series provides.

The fucking reveal that Walter has been in a sealed off area of your room all along still effects me, it was just fucking genius.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 18:56:00 No.129920614 Report

Quoted By: >>129920783 >>129920819 >>129921014

Silent Hill fan scale according to their favorite games

Shitty underage bandwagoner tier: SH2 > SH1 = SH3 > SH4
Trying to sound like an oldfag tier: SH1 = SH3 > SH2 > SH4
Girl gamer tier: SH2 = SH3 > SH4 > SH1
Not completely retarded tier: SH1 > SH3 > SH4 > SH2
Legitimate oldfag tier: SH1 = SH4 > SH3 > SH2

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 18:58:00 No.129920716 Report

Quoted By: >>129921692

>>129920382
>Which is amoung some of the best SH areas and moments the series provides.

But the 'fear/horror factor' of this game, and the games that followed it, were.. dampened.
I mean, yeah, it was okay I guess, I've played worse.. but it certianly wasn't the best.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 18:58:00 No.129920721 Report

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>Which Silent Hill game was/is the best and why?

I think my order goes something like this.

Silent Hill 2 > Silent Hill = Silent Hill 3

They are all really unique games.. and I'll never forget my first time playing the original. I just think the 2nd one is the most polished game in terms of look and enemies. The 3rd had batter combat but it wasn't the game until I got into Silent Hill.
BTW, dat Katana! I haven't played the 4th one though or any of the others.

Plus, soundtrack has to be noted!

Silent Hill 2 > Silent Hill > Silent Hill 3 IMO

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 18:59:00 No.129920783 Report

Quoted By: >>129920920

>>129920614
THAT IS SOME BULLSHIT AND YOU KNOW IT.

Silent Hill 2 Master Race reporting in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:00:00 No.129920819 Report

Quoted By: >>129920920

>>129920614

Im not on the scale D:

SH3 > SH1 > SH2 > SH4

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:01:00 No.129920901 Report

Quoted By: >>129921021

>>129919873
>Silent Hill 3's bathroom/toilet/mirror scene

what ?
i didnt remember any

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:02:00 No.129920920 Report

Quoted By: >>129921103

>>129920819
That's closest to trying to sound like an oldfag tier

>>129920783
The best element of any Silent Hill game is the level of theorycraft involved. SH1 and 4 had the best of this, 3 had some but was a little more straightforward with what was happening, 2 hardly had any.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:03:00 No.129920978 Report

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I enjoyed all four of them equally.

SH1 was amazing because it was first and introduced something new. Especially that weird oppressive atmosphere which is so specific for SH and introduced the best horror soundtrack composer ever.

SH2 and SH3 did basically the same thing and they did it right. I enjoyed SH3 more because I preferred some of its locations (but SH2 still had some of the most memorable ones).

SH4 is my favorite, because it kept the old formula, but presented it in a new refreshing form. It usually doesn't work and I have to admit I postponed playing it for years because I couldn't handle controls/unkillable ghosts but then suddenly SH4 just clicked with me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:04:00 No.129921014 Report

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SH1 I think. After playing the sequels through the years they didn`t better the original.

>>129920614
SH1 >SH2 > SH4 > SH3

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:04:00 No.129921021 Report

Quoted By: >>129921187 >>129921276

>>129920901
Am I allowed to post links to youtube on here..?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:05:00 No.129921103 Report

Quoted By: >>129921342

>>129920920
What do you mean, the level of theorycraft?
Silent Hill 2 was the best mindfuck I'd ever had the privelege to go through. There are still some unanswered questions..

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Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:05:00 No.129921119 Report

Quoted By: >>129921214 >>129921605

Shattered Memories and Homecoming were both good.

You would have to be a fool to deny this.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:07:00 No.129921187 Report

Quoted By: >>129921323

>>129921021

Yeah you're allowed to do that

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:07:00 No.129921200 Report

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In terms of story Silent hill 2 holds the fave, however in terms of performance and overall experience I'd say that silent hill 3 is the best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:07:00 No.129921214 Report

Quoted By: >>129921403

>>129921119
But you'd have to be a fool to deny that Homecoming didn't fuck with the established lore a little too much.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:08:00 No.129921243 Report

Quoted By: >>129925873 >>129928963

Awaiting shitstorm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:08:00 No.129921274 Report

Quoted By: >>129921418

Shattered Memories was great, and looked fantastic too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:08:00 No.129921276 Report

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>>129921021

Of course! Yes, that scene was really cool (not the person you're replying too)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:09:00 No.129921323 Report

Quoted By: >>129921634

>>129921187
Sorry for the wait, it was the Storeroom!

(Everyone who doesn't know what I'm talking about WATCH IT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkYtflr1KsM

>Door locks if you're too late..

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:09:00 No.129921342 Report

Quoted By: >>129921886

>>129921103
So what you're saying is you perfectly understood every other SH story but 2 was the one that really left your brain confused.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:10:00 No.129921353 Report

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDEHuzeOr9M&feature=related

1, 2, 3 and 4 fit the story. the rest were just tacked on later, and outright contradict the established lore, as well as just being very shitty games.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:10:00 No.129921378 Report

Quoted By: >>129921862

I never played SH2 past the first 20 minutes. Got PSX2 recently and started playing today. Everything was going fine until... those things that swim along the floor.

>mfw I walk past a van and one swims from under neath it past me

NO FUCK THAT I CAN'T TAKE THIS SHIT

I just got the key to the wood bore apartment. Just gone inside the door, i'm too scared to walk into the darkness.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:10:00 No.129921401 Report

Quoted By: >>129921530 >>129921818

>>129920382
What ? is that true ? I never actually finished SH4.
But i remember one time i tried to use the peek whole and i saw that fucking Walter outside my room.
so at which part of the room was walter at ? is he some kind of ghost or something ?

Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS

Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:10:00 No.129921403 Report

Quoted By: >>129921497 >>129921864

>>129921214
Yes, it completely butchered almost everything the previous Silent Hills set in precedent.

But it had excellent horror elements, somewhat smooth combat, and the amount of mind fucking little hints in the game was astounding.

Not to mention it's the first Silent Hill with badass bosses.

People jump on the hipster bandwagon of hating when they don't realize that it was actually a pretty decent game.

Most people play it once without thinking and judge it as horrible because IT'S NOT EXACTLY LIKE MY SILENT HILL 2 A BLOO BLOO BLOO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:11:00 No.129921418 Report

Quoted By: >>129928836

>>129921274
I thought it looked pretty shitty graphically, but yeah, it was a decent game. Kind of almost felt like a point & click adventure game version of Silent Hill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:12:00 No.129921497 Report

Quoted By: >>129921796

>>129921403
>somewhat smooth combat
if by smooth you mean the worst in the series, then yeah

and that's something considering we're talking about SH

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BMAlex !!+zLr81Zj/ci Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:13:00 No.129921530 Report

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Silent Hill threads are always the best threads.

>>129921401
>not finishing the best SH

No Wisdom for you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:14:00 No.129921605 Report

Quoted By: >>129921916

>>129921119

Regardless of being part of the Silent Hill series Homecoming was a bad game first and foremost.

It has horrible animation, a terrible script, stupid leaps in lore breaking logic, horrible visuals and an awful asthetic lifted from the movie. Its Otherworld is lazy and lacking the grimy, meaty feel of the preivous ones. Alex is a hateable main character and his "quest" never once resonated, the story was predictable and pedestrian.

Fuck Homecoming and fuck the people that defend it.

At least Climax had an excuse as to why Origin ended up being terrible, they were handed a shitty game and basically told to fix it within a time limit. They tried and Origins deserves a little respect for the Theatre scene.

Shattered Memories is barely Silent Hill, it disposed of everything the series is meant to be about aside from the psychological, theres little horror and the main story has little to no distractions of side stories.

Downpour sounds like another retread of SH2 with the same old motivations and guilt and blah blah blah. Breakable weapons where you can only carry one at a time but have to fight multiple monsters at once. At least Travis could throw one-shot TVs at enemies.

Homecoming is a terrible game and if you like it you should feel bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:14:00 No.129921634 Report

Quoted By: >>129921720

>>129921323

If i remember correctly there's another scene that have something to do with a mirror in a bathroom earlier on. iinm that scene will only happen if you have save file from SH2.
Anyone knows this ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:15:00 No.129921692 Report

Quoted By: >>129922125

>>129920716
>implying SH4 wasnt creepy and scary as all fuck
1,2,3 were more, but SH4 was just about enough to be a SH in my book
Of course the scariest one was 3

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BMAlex !!+zLr81Zj/ci Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:15:00 No.129921720 Report

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>>129921634
No mirror, just toilet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCs45mmsi4E

Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS

Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:17:00 No.129921796 Report

Quoted By: >>129921929 >>129921984 >>129922200

>>129921497
SH 1 : Almost as bad as Resident Evil
SH 2 : Improving but still not fluid and concise
SH 3 : Excellent
SH 4 : Oh shit nigger what are you doing
SH Origins : Decent
Shattered Memories : What combat

Homecoming : Included a dodge mechanic, power and light attacks, counter attacks, monster weaknesses and abilities.
Fighting is no longer about spamming melee attacks or bullets or just running away from all enemies but you need to evade and exploit the enemies.
Alex Shepard moved with a dexterity, a precision and agility that James and Harry never had. Not just because of the vastly improved hardware.

The combat was better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:17:00 No.129921818 Report

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>>129921401

Hes a dessicated strung up corpse behind a fake wall in the Room, the Walter you've been fighting for the last 4-5 hours is'nt even the real one. Hes dead.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:18:00 No.129921862 Report

Quoted By: >>129922158 >>129922213 >>129922232 >>129922326 >>129923452

>>129921378
Help me /v/... i'm scared.

I bet when I go to grab that health drink in front of me i'll get raped in the anus. Also I swear there's a shadowy figure moving near the stairs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:18:00 No.129921864 Report

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>>129921403
I was only making the point that it's a decent, if not, mediocre game in it's own right, but as a Silent Hill game, it fails miserably.

And boy am I tired of people throwing the word "hipster" around unnecessarily.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:18:00 No.129921886 Report

Quoted By: >>129922158

>>129921342
No, that's not what I'm saying.

But Silent Hill 2 pulled their mindfuck stories off better than the others.

>Can someone please explain to me about.. what this is.. the tunnel bit in the museum, where it takes you about a minute to go down the stairs?
..And there's some boat sounds, too..

..GAH, I CAN'T UPLOAD THE FILE. Does anyone know what I'm talking about!?

Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS

Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:19:00 No.129921916 Report

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>>129921605
I said they were both good games; I never said they were good Silent Hill games.

Pretty high hopes for Downpour. I'll be getting it on day 1 and making a thorough review.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:19:00 No.129921920 Report

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deep in the night you think everythings right... tell it to yourself... say its just...

a nightmare...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:19:00 No.129921929 Report

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>>129921796

Then thanks to the fucking terrible camera they employed actually using that increased agility became a fucking chore, wait just let me smear against this wall as I try and turn around in a corridor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:20:00 No.129921984 Report

Quoted By: >>129922069 >>129922183

>>129921796
>SH 1 : Almost as bad as Resident Evil

I now I'm taking all of your opinions about Silent Hill with a grain of salt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:21:00 No.129922069 Report

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>>129921984

Protip never listen to Seriana or BMAlex

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:22:00 No.129922125 Report

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>>129921692
It had it's moments, like all Silent Hill games.

Of course, you seemed to have misstyped a number there.. the scariest one was number 2.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:22:00 No.129922129 Report

Quoted By: >>129922314 >>129922360

Silent Hill 2 is my favourite. I can't understand how anyone would prefer SH3, I mean it had it's moments, but overall the story and the characters were weaker. SH4 gets too much hate also, the whole escort bullshit did suck but I think the story and atmosphere made up for it. SH4 also has a ridiculously good trailer.

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BMAlex !!+zLr81Zj/ci Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:22:00 No.129922158 Report

Quoted By: >>129922391 >>129922416 >>129922427

>>129921862
>petrified at apartments

Oh boy are you in for a ride.

>>129921886
That "tunnel" is entering James' deepest subconscious and the second time you enter Otherworld.

Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS

Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:23:00 No.129922183 Report

Quoted By: >>129922326

>>129921984
They are just that: opinions.

I played Homecoming.

I didn't pay a cent for it I wouldn't have felt it was worth money because it wasn't but I enjoyed it even though it raped Silent Hill's dead corpse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:23:00 No.129922200 Report

Quoted By: >>129922368

>>129921796
>SH 1 : Almost as bad as Resident Evil
>Praising Homecoming for the combat when SH was always about being scary as fuck game with great amount of detail which Homecoming lack

Filtered and reported.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:23:00 No.129922213 Report

Quoted By: >>129922391

>>129921862
There's not.

BUT WAIT

DON'T GO TO THE TOP OF THE STAIRS

THAT FUCKING SOUNDTRACK HAUNTED MY NIGHTMARES FOR WEEKS

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:24:00 No.129922232 Report

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>>129921862
dat aspect ratio

you'd be better of with playing PC version, it can be a bitch to set it right but I played it on win7 with no problems

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:25:00 No.129922314 Report

Quoted By: >>129922404 >>129922759

>>129922129
>but overall the story and the characters were weaker

Not so much if you actually really got into the first game's story. It's also probably the only real sequel in the entire series. Every other game is like a side story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:25:00 No.129922326 Report

Quoted By: >>129922502

>>129921862
I'm this guy.

>>129922183
I played Homecoming for all of ten minutes. Right at the start in that corridor, turn right BABY CRYING... ok I can do this, go into room. Grab something. Leave, baby crying even louder. BODY FALLS FROM CEILING VENT.

NO FUCK THIS GAME I CAN'T TAKE THIS, USE DISK AS FRISBY OUT WINDOW

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:26:00 No.129922360 Report

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>>129922129
>SH4 also has a ridiculously good trailer.
It's kinda sad that trailer for a 8 year old game is almost more scary than any horror movie made since then.

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Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:26:00 No.129922368 Report

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>>129922200
>Implying I was praising it
I said it was better; I didn't say it was state of the art mind blowingly amazing.

What is reading comprehension?

Silent Hill 3 was just as good if not better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:26:00 No.129922391 Report

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>>129922213
>>129922158
Oh and fuck you guys seriously, i'm gonna take a crap before I play anymore just in case I actually shit bricks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:27:00 No.129922404 Report

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>>129922314
>My face when Harry died
YOU MOTHERFUCKING YOU AINT GETTING AWAY WITH THIS FUCKING SHIT
THIS GAME IS SCARY AS FUCK BUT I SWEAR TO GOD ILL ONLY STOP AFTER YOURE DEAD

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:27:00 No.129922416 Report

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>>129922158
Thank you..

Holy shit this fucking game

I'm listening to the SH2 soundtracks now. Awwyee.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:27:00 No.129922419 Report

Quoted By: >>129922679 >>129922725 >>129922787 >>129923221 >>129923247 >>129923548 >>129929584

Silent Hill 2 gets way too much praise. Yes, it was good, but most people overhype it because it was the FIRST ONE they played. It's like the FF7 effect. Not many people played the original when it came out, and sadly that was the only way to really get the full experience of what made that game so scary and awesome in the first place, since it hasn't aged really well.

While SH2 had more realistic characters and overall creepier atmosphere, SH1 wins on plot and originality. The layers of subtleties and metaphors, albeit partly due to censorship, are all the more impressive because every little thing fits together and means something in the overall story. SH2 had these elements, but it didn't go anywhere with them.

SH3 tried to blend the atmosphere of 2 with the grittiness and story of 1, and while some people found the writing better than 2, 1 fans were kind of miffed about the story giving 1 a finite resolution and tossing out the infinite loop theory. It did bring back more of the metaphors and stuff though, with things like Valtiel going unexplained, as opposed to Pyramid Head who isn't a mystery at all, but there wasn't as much left open to interpretation as in 1.

SH4 is analogous to FF9. People who liked 2 the best hated it, people who liked 1 the best loved it. It was metaphor and nuance heavy, and you really had to put the full story together yourself to understand everything. The environments manage to be as oppressive as 1's, despite the lack of a true alternate world. SH3 probably had the harshest environments, but the way Heather reacted to them with indifference and even annoyance made them less scary to the player.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:27:00 No.129922427 Report

Quoted By: >>129922679

>>129922158
I beat Silent Hill 2 just 2 weeks ago. It was fucking awesome. Coolest part is at the end in the Hotel. First it's all nice looking like new but when James start to realize what he has done it starts to deteriorate and it's flooded with water

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Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:28:00 No.129922502 Report

Quoted By: >>129922728

>>129922326
People never even noticed the little things.

Like in the first cutscene where you're being wheeled into your room, you pass by 4 rooms where people are being killed/tortured.

It's how the children were killed in order in the game. Buried alive, dismembered, asphyxiated, and neck broken.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:30:00 No.129922587 Report

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Silent Hill 1: First in the series, very novelty, manages to use system limits to its favor. Scary because it's clunky.
SH2: Nice locations, interesting characters, plot twits is good but spoiled to fuck and back.
SH3: Scary as fuck. Playing with a teenager girl amps the scares tenfold. A good end to Harry's story.
SH4: Couldn't stomach it much further than Cynthia's death

In my opinion, SH3 > SH2 = SH1 > SH4 > rest

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:31:00 No.129922662 Report

Quoted By: >>129922913

Is there any real reason to why they used faces in this part of the game rather than just leaving it as a square? I've always wanted to know.

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BMAlex !!+zLr81Zj/ci Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:31:00 No.129922679 Report

Quoted By: >>129922834

>>129922419
>SH4 is analogous to FF9. People who liked 2 the best hated it, people who liked 1 the best loved it. It was metaphor and nuance heavy, and you really had to put the full story together yourself to understand everything. The environments manage to be as oppressive as 1's, despite the lack of a true alternate world.

Excellently put anon.

>>129922427
The hotel burned down some time after James and Mary visited. It's one of the pictures in the jail. The moment you cross the lake with the boat you're in Otherworld all the time, and you get slight instances of fog world right near the end mixed with Otherworld.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:32:00 No.129922725 Report

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>>129922419
>SH1 didnt age well
None of the current horror games can beat it.
None, not even other SH games can surpass its soundtrack.
SH is like, perfectly crafted given its limitations like hardware and stuff. I still havent dared play it at night, alone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:32:00 No.129922728 Report

Quoted By: >>129922829

>>129922502
>People never even noticed the little things.

>Like in the first cutscene where you're being wheeled into your room, you pass by 4 rooms where people are being killed/tortured.

>It's how the children were killed in order in the game. Buried alive, dismembered, asphyxiated, and neck broken.

You mean that part where they spoil everything in the beginning and it looked just like Jacobs Ladder.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:32:00 No.129922759 Report

Quoted By: >>129922975

>>129922314

I think the first game handled that part of the story better. SH3 didn't seem quite as serious to me. Though it did have fantastic monster design and the horror/atmosphere aspects drastically increase during the hospital 'level'. I think it was the beginning few segments of the game that left me a bit underwhelmed.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:33:00 No.129922787 Report

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>>129922419
>comparing SH to FF
>2034
>ISHYGDDT

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:33:00 No.129922825 Report

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>>129919707

Welp, agreed 100%.

That's what I've been saying all along.

SH3 is the pinnacle of Silent Hilldom.

Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS

Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:33:00 No.129922829 Report

Quoted By:

>>129922728
Nobody I've spoken to about it thought twice about it until I mentioned it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:33:00 No.129922834 Report

Quoted By: >>129922881 >>129922913

>>129922679
I've must have missed that part. I just ran through the Jail as fast as possible I didn't like the strange noises.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:34:00 No.129922881 Report

Quoted By:

>>129922834
>dat banging sound

>cannot unhear

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BMAlex !!+zLr81Zj/ci Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:35:00 No.129922913 Report

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>>129922662
Not really. Probably just to fuck you up. Like the hospital rooms in SH4.

>>129922834
RrrRItTTchUualllll

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:35:00 No.129922947 Report

Quoted By: >>129923147 >>129923268

reposting this because it's the only time I've ever seen anyone find something good to say about all of the games

I love the SH series, and even though each game has got its faults, there's something good in all of them.

SH1 - That awesome Twin Peaks/Lynchian vibe, plus the PS1 graphics actually make it more disturbing somehow.

SH2 - That story, that music, that level design, the entire labyrinth section

SH3 - Even though for 90% of the game it did kinda feel like SH1, only jacked up on steroids, it was probably the most intense

SH4 - Great surreal, nightmarish atmosphere where everything just feels disconcertingly off rather than out-and-out 'shit gets rusty, oh fuck', also the room itself was a neat idea

Origins - Fantastic music, some nice ideas for levels (especially the Sanitarium and the Theatre), and the Butcher was an awesome if slightly underused boss (and even if he was basically just Pyramid Head's drinking buddy)

Homecoming - Actually good voice acting, lots of neat little touches (like the scrawlings on the walls in the prison) and a sense that they genuinely did put some care and effort into what they thought was appropriately 'Silent Hill'-ish

SM - Amazing story, great music, Kaufmann being badass and one of the best characters in the series, that whole depressing 'small American town in the middle of nowhere, going nowhere' vibe, and... that ending

Arcade - FUCK YEAH THEME OF HANNA YOU ARE THE BEST SH FINAL BOSS MUSIC

Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS

Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:36:00 No.129922975 Report

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>>129922759
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4gxubscRJg

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:36:00 No.129923017 Report

Quoted By: >>129923164

>>129920073
I kept thinking that every time I saw Maria. There's no way it's just coincidental.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:37:00 No.129923063 Report

Quoted By: >>129923125

GUISE guise

You know Alex?

Is he Pyramid Head? Will he make a return in the later SH games?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:38:00 No.129923097 Report

Quoted By:

>watch Lost Highway for the first time a few weeks ago
>replay Silent Hill 2
>notice all these little nods to LH

That was pretty sweet

Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS

Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:38:00 No.129923125 Report

Quoted By: >>129923271 >>129923312

>>129923063
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtxW53dFhA8

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:38:00 No.129923147 Report

Quoted By:

>>129922947

Ive never met another person in one of these threads thats actually played SH Arcade. In all its silly black cloth covering glory.

Pumped way too much money into that the one time I got to play it.

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BMAlex !!+zLr81Zj/ci Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:39:00 No.129923164 Report

Quoted By:

>>129923017
Oldie but goldie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:39:00 No.129923221 Report

Quoted By:

>>129922419
>Not many people played the original when it came out, and sadly that was the only way to really get the full experience of what made that game so scary and awesome in the first place, since it hasn't aged really well.

No.

I played emulated version few years ago. It aged better than wine. It has the best controls, best camera and best combat of entire series to this day. I'm not even kidding. Sure it's just my
>opinion
But it just feels right. Soundtrack is god-tier and SH1 theme can't be ever surpassed.

Graphics are bad, but that doesn't matter. Creepy early 3D models suits the game well, it enables your imagination to fill in the gaps. And I enjoy that PS1 look.

Also it's funny how the fog, which was there because PSX couldn't handle all this 3D environments become the series trademark.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:39:00 No.129923247 Report

Quoted By:

>>129922419
>Valtiel

goddamit, i actually had to google that up, i didnt even notice it was in SH3
probably cause i was too young when i first played sh3.
I still remember going 'what??" when the final boss was called 'God' and and i felt really weird when they talked about heather giving birth to God all those other religious stuff
I swear SH games are way scarier if you played it when you're 12

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:40:00 No.129923260 Report

Quoted By: >>129923497 >>129923616

Just an idea here:

Silent Hill lore eludes to strange events occurring in it's history. What if there was a Silent Hill set in the 1800's with weapons of that time period etc.

The setting worked great for Amnesia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:40:00 No.129923268 Report

Quoted By:

>>129922947

Too bad that they didnt put effort into the gameplay of Homecoming. Fucking horrible game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:40:00 No.129923271 Report

Quoted By: >>129923432

>>129923125

Jesus Christ Hulett is cancer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:41:00 No.129923312 Report

Quoted By: >>129923432

>>129923125
No.

NO

SHTEAM WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:41:00 No.129923323 Report

Quoted By: >>129924261

Shattered Memories has always made me wonder, is growing up in some small American town in the middle of nowhere really as depressing as films/comics/games/tv make it out to be? I don't think I've ever seen or read anything which doesn't depict living there as simply wasting your life away.

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Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:42:00 No.129923432 Report

Quoted By: >>129923525

>>129923271
>>129923312
I'm hoping that the developer comes out and just says this whole thing was a joke.

Because they're the same people working on Downpour.

And Downpour comes out in less than a month.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:43:00 No.129923452 Report

Quoted By: >>129923530 >>129923584 >>129923616

>>129921862
I don't understand where i'm meant to go here. I need to get to the lake, do I try to go across and down another set of stairs or go to the top and find something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:44:00 No.129923497 Report

Quoted By: >>129923579

>>129923260

I remember somebody once suggested a Silent Hill game which had multiple storylines intersecting with each other, like the Siren games, told in a non-linear fashion. Several of these storylines would be set different points in the past, including one in the 19th century and one where you played as one of the original native inhabitants of the area, explaining what was up with that weird rock in SH4.

It was basically a cross between Silent Hill, Forbidden Siren and Eternal Darkness. I'd buy that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:44:00 No.129923525 Report

Quoted By: >>129923863 >>129923930

>>129923432

http://youtu.be/2V1bFxRnTvM

what.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:44:00 No.129923530 Report

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>>129923452
Also.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:45:00 No.129923548 Report

Quoted By: >>129923839

>>129922419
>SH4 is analogous to FF9. People who liked 2 the best hated it, people who liked 1 the best loved it.

Wait, so people who loved FF7 hated FF9? But I loved both games. Is that uncommon in the FF fandom?

But more on-topic, I did love SH2 and despise my experience with SH4. I only forced myself to finish the game because I wanted to see what some people were gushing over.

I think the fundamental problem with SH4 for me was Henry. I know that some people claim that his absence of personality is intended to give the player a feeling that they're viewing the world from their own eyes, not from another character's bias. But a strong connection with the protagonist is an important part of games for me, ESPECIALLY when it comes to survival horror. I didn't give two shits about Henry because I didn't even have the vaguest clue of who he was. It was almost a distraction during my entire experience.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:45:00 No.129923579 Report

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>>129923497
Seconded

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:45:00 No.129923584 Report

Quoted By: >>129923864

>>129923452
Get the key (you'll have to go to the top of the stairs) get a gun, then you'll have to climb through a door into a window to the next block of apartments, then do loads of shit and battle with PH for a short moment .

You can do this.

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BMAlex !!+zLr81Zj/ci Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:46:00 No.129923616 Report

Quoted By: >>129923701

>>129923260
The closest we have is the tie-in comic to Downpour that deals with that period (the quality of which is debatable). Maybe there will be some kind of flashback sequence. You never know.

A separate spin-off game could work though, why not.

>>129923452
Explore, you need to go through the apartments. There is a coin in the trash chute you need to get eventually, that might be your biggest problem to figure out.

!PIEiuQiagg

!PIEiuQiagg Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:46:00 No.129923652 Report

Quoted By: >>129923814

konami is a business. businesses care about nothing but making money.

more news at 11

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:47:00 No.129923701 Report

Quoted By: >>129923865

>>129923616

Silent Hill comics. NOPE NOPE NOPE Those never existed, they were never made.

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The Second Doctor !!tNuDYn2wgOv Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:48:00 No.129923782 Report

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I like to view Silent Hill 4 the same way I view Final Fantasy XII; it's a good game in its own right, but it marks the point where the franchise completely veers off-course from what it was originally. I don't blame people for disliking it simply because it's the point where Silent Hill stopped being, well, Silent Hill, but I try to look past those flaws and enjoy it as a stand alone gaiden game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:49:00 No.129923814 Report

Quoted By: >>129923983

>>129923652

It kinda helps to make something appealing in order for it to be profitable, so who are Konami making SH games for? Im guessing no one new will have any interest at all in Downpour or Book of Memories so why fuck them up so badly for anyone thats a fan of the series?

Konami are fucking terrible at buisness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:49:00 No.129923839 Report

Quoted By: >>129928024

>>129923548
Yes, FFVII and FFIX fans are usually diametrically opposed.

Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS

Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:50:00 No.129923863 Report

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>>129923525
As in, I'm hoping the developer just announces that this gameplay footage is bullshit and that it's not something they're working on at all.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:50:00 No.129923864 Report

Quoted By: >>129924068

>>129923584
Oh god that noise.... it's so loud... *whimper*

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BMAlex !!+zLr81Zj/ci Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:50:00 No.129923865 Report

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>>129923701
>mfw that entire retarded first comic

It's like swimming through vomit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:50:00 No.129923867 Report

Quoted By: >>129923962 >>129924036

you know what bugs me

where exactly is the forest world and prison world in SH4 meant to be

I mean I know they say they're on/in toluca lake but where precisely

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:50:00 No.129923901 Report

Quoted By: >>129924050

>that feel when there will never be a great Silent Hill game ever again

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:50:00 No.129923930 Report

Quoted By:

>>129923525

>Its just a rediculous as making a Lars Von Trier movie with Adam Sandler directing.

Yes. This is the best comparison ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:51:00 No.129923962 Report

Quoted By: >>129924092

>>129923867
On/in Toluca Lake. What do you need fucking latitude and longitude or something?

!PIEiuQiagg

!PIEiuQiagg Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:51:00 No.129923983 Report

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>>129923814

for people who like pyramid head

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:52:00 No.129924004 Report

Quoted By:

Oh hey a Silent Hill thread...

>BMAlex

God dammit man, do you just lurk /v/ until a SH thread pops up?

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BMAlex !!+zLr81Zj/ci Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:52:00 No.129924036 Report

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>>129923867
>precisely

Can you say anything precisely about SH? It's probably somewhere on the eastern shore, away from both Central and South Vale.

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Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:52:00 No.129924050 Report

Quoted By: >>129924349

>>129923901
Downpour is the last hope.

After that the series is dead and will become the next Call of Duty.

So cross your finger and wait to see how it is this March.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:53:00 No.129924068 Report

Quoted By: >>129924487

>>129923864
I know it is, honey.

Don't forget the coins and FLASHLIGHT. GET THE FUCKING FLASHLIGHT.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:53:00 No.129924092 Report

Quoted By: >>129924304

>>129923962

I'm just curious, one of the files mentions people living nearby saying how they can hear shit going on at the orphanage, so it has to be near one of the towns

but it never shows up on any of the maps and I have no idea where it could be in relation to the other places

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:54:00 No.129924192 Report

Quoted By:

I absolutely love the SH series, but the fanbase is one of the most miserable gloomy bunch of sods around. You guys are never any fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:54:00 No.129924195 Report

Quoted By: >>129924334 >>129924634

>Everyone going apeshit over Book of Memories

I don't get it. Yes it looks like a terrible mockery of SH, but so what? It's not like this is the new direction the franchise is headed, they aren't sacrificing "real" Silent Hill games for this, it's just a spinoff. Konami does this all the time. People don't flip the fuck out this much over any of the thousand shitty Resident Evil spinoffs Capcom pukes out on a constant basis, but one team decides to make a less than serious Silent Hill spinoff and it's THE END OF THE SERIES AS WE KNOW IT.

Silent Hill hasn't been good for ages, and by all accounts Downpour is going to be just as bad if not worse than Homecoming. I'd rather take a vaguely Silent Hill-themed game that could actually be fun than another terrible game that seriously tries to be Silent Hill.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:55:00 No.129924232 Report

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I have to say that SH1, 2 and 3 are all so good that I can't say which one is better then the other. SH4 though is down on the scale because it was just too different in a way I just didn't like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:55:00 No.129924247 Report

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I checked out The Silent Hill Experience on PSP a few years ago...what a pile of shit. Horrible artwork and insanely boring plots. The artwork was the most offensive part of it for me, it was just so shitty like they gave a 12 year old some color pencils and paper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:55:00 No.129924261 Report

Quoted By:

>>129923323
Well, speaking as a person who has lived in a small American town in the middle of nowhere for the better part of his life, I must confirm that it is indeed very depressing.

It probably just stems from myself mostly, but there's that fear that if you stand still for too long in a town like that, then it won't let you leave.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:55:00 No.129924262 Report

Quoted By: >>129924336

OP here.

>mfw I was going to delete this thread in the first 15 minutes because I wasn't expecting this many replies

Thank you, guys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:56:00 No.129924304 Report

Quoted By:

>>129924092
SH4's locations are deliberately vague because they were never supposed to have any relation to Silent Hill, stop trying to figure it out.

Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS

Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:56:00 No.129924334 Report

Quoted By: >>129924684

>>129924195
You're going to buy a PSVita just for Book of Memories but you won't even give Downpour a chance?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:56:00 No.129924336 Report

Quoted By: >>129924580

>>129924262
SH threads always thrive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:56:00 No.129924349 Report

Quoted By: >>129924543 >>129926009

>>129924050
>Downpour is the last hope

don't get your hope too high, i'm certainly not a weeboo but any SH that arent made by Team Silent will just suck.
I already had enough after Homecoming and that PSP one.
Those Japs at Team Silent just have a way of fucking with our mind that the West will never be able to do.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:57:00 No.129924435 Report

Quoted By: >>129924471

Felines in the atmosphere?

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BMAlex !!+zLr81Zj/ci Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:58:00 No.129924471 Report

Quoted By: >>129924497

>>129924435

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:58:00 No.129924479 Report

Quoted By: >>129924646

Was there ever a translation patch made for the Silent Hill novel on GBA that actually told the full SH1 story as it was originally written, including Andy?

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:58:00 No.129924487 Report

Quoted By: >>129924578 >>129924636 >>129924780

>>129924068
It won't let me pick up the gun. Bashed X over 9000 times now.

>mfw no one uses that meme anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:58:00 No.129924497 Report

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>>129924471
>Not renaming it Shattered_Memories.jpg

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:59:00 No.129924505 Report

Quoted By: >>129924529 >>129924578

No one must know my secret.

I have no idea why I did this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:59:00 No.129924529 Report

Quoted By:

>>129924505
Have you punished yourself for buying that shit?

Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS

Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:59:00 No.129924543 Report

Quoted By:

>>129924349
I feel like I'm going to force myself to enjoy Downpour and make more out of it than there really is in there just because I so desperately want it to be Silent Hill's redemption.

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BMAlex !!+zLr81Zj/ci Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:00:00 No.129924578 Report

Quoted By: >>129924914

>>129924487
You didn't get the flashlight. Find that first.

>>129924505
Dear god man, why. Not even SH collectors buy that.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:00:00 No.129924580 Report

Quoted By:

>>129924336
It just amazes me how quickly and how much it grows.

Sage01

Sage01 Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:00:00 No.129924586 Report

Quoted By:

LOOOOOVE 4, it brings the whole thing together and doesn't hold your hands to do it. SH4 was truly the best way to say goodbye to the series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:00:00 No.129924618 Report

Quoted By: >>129924667 >>129924726 >>129924741

Are these games actually scary? I missed these games because of FF7, but they don't seem scary compared to games like Dead Space.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:01:00 No.129924634 Report

Quoted By: >>129924719 >>129924786 >>129924964

>>129924195
>People don't flip the fuck out this much over any of the thousand shitty Resident Evil spinoffs Capcom pukes out on a constant basis

I thought the older fans did? Or have they just resigned themselves to the fact that Resident Evil will never be same survival horror experience that they fell in love with?

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The Second Doctor !!tNuDYn2wgOv Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:01:00 No.129924636 Report

Quoted By: >>129924914

>>129924487
You need the flashlight first, lad.

Ask someone else where to get it, because I can't remember.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:01:00 No.129924646 Report

Quoted By: >>129924885

>>129924479

Kinda sorta, theres no hack or anything like that to my knowledge but it did get a translation released. Should be easy enough to find if you want to read it.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:01:00 No.129924651 Report

Quoted By:

When Downpour comes out and there isn't a PC version I can play, I'll just wait for Voidburger to LP it in her fantastic way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:01:00 No.129924667 Report

Quoted By:

>>129924618
Nah, they aren't. Don't worry YOU aren't missing anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:01:00 No.129924684 Report

Quoted By: >>129924879 >>129924906 >>129925461

>>129924334
I'm buying a Vita anyway and will try Book of Memories because I'm not expecting it to be a Silent Hill game. If it was the same engine with some skin other than Silent Hill, it would look like a decent game, yes?

Meanwhile, enough gameplay videos and developer commentary about Downpour have been released to show that the writers have totally dropped the ball AGAIN and are just remaking Silent Hill 2. I also recall several reports from people who had access to the demo saying that the controls were absolutely horrible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:02:00 No.129924697 Report

Quoted By: >>129924879 >>129924986 >>129925202

after playing through the series again I think I've come to some sort of realisation

the Japanese-developed games focused more on the personal hells of their protagonists and antagonists, while Climax's games focused more on the wider town in general, trying to illuminate the lives of its other inhabitants and not just the main characters.

Would that be fair to say?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:02:00 No.129924719 Report

Quoted By:

>>129924634

They got placated somewhat by Revelations. Silent Hill fans get fucking nothing but shit, not even disguised shit.

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Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:02:00 No.129924726 Report

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>>129924618
>they don't seem scary compared to games like Dead Space.

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The Second Doctor !!tNuDYn2wgOv Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:02:00 No.129924741 Report

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>>129924618
>Dead Space
>Scary
You're either stupid or trolling.

Either way, get out and stop wasting everyone's time.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:03:00 No.129924780 Report

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>>129924487
It's because you need the damn flashlight.

It's stuff like this that remind me of The Calling, when you can't pick up stuff because ''It's too dark and I can't see anything'' WELL GUESS WHAT BITCH I CAN

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:03:00 No.129924786 Report

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>>129924634
Anyone who played Silent Hill knew Resident Evil was never a good survival horror experience. It's ironic when RE "fans" complain that the new games aren't scary, as if the originals somehow were.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:03:00 No.129924787 Report

Quoted By: >>129924961 >>129925229

For me it's SH2>Sh4>Shattered Memories=SH3>Origins
I 3 became more combat heavy but didn't improve on the clunky controls so fighting was just awkward. Also, the spacing between plot points was to great and I became really uninterested with whatever was going on. 4 Made it more combat heavy while also making combat more fluid so that is a huge plus. 4 had some really nice locations too, fucking loved rotating orphanage. Shattered Memories was very ambitious and has so very good aspects as well as some not so good ones. The phone was a nice addition and the game has some really well design levels. The chase scenes got annoying fast and the monster designs were limited. I think the perfect Silent Hill game would use the interface of Memories along with psycho analysis but in a more traditional Silent Hill style, so fog, more/scarier enemies and harder puzzles.

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BMAlex !!+zLr81Zj/ci Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:05:00 No.129924879 Report

Quoted By: >>129925564

>>129924697
>the Japanese-developed games focused more on the personal hells of their protagonists and antagonists, while Climax's games focused more on the wider town in general, trying to illuminate the lives of its other inhabitants and not just the main characters.

>0rigins: personal hell of Travis mixed with cult
>SM: personal hell of Cheryl

?

>>129924684
Downpour as a game looks alright, but everyone is worried about the story, true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:05:00 No.129924885 Report

Quoted By: >>129925064

>>129924646
No what I'm saying is, the GBA game has the full story, including Andy. Anyone who liked SH1 should play it.

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Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:05:00 No.129924906 Report

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>>129924684
NO. NO. NO. I'M NOT LISTENING. I AM NOT LISTENING. I...

Ah, fuck it. I'm cancelling my pre order and just waiting for Lets Plays of it. $60 saved.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:05:00 No.129924914 Report

Quoted By: >>129925021 >>129925031

>>129924636
>>129924578
I can't find this flashlight, rest of the rooms are locked and there's nothing else in the gun room. Is it downstairs? All those doors were locked as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:06:00 No.129924961 Report

Quoted By: >>129925123

>>129924787
>rotating orphanage

That was a prison tower. The orphanage was the house in the forest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:06:00 No.129924964 Report

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>>129924634

I don't know, I first played Resi 2 as a kid, so I guess I'm an 'old fan' and I've liked pretty much all of them. Resi 5 had a lot of faults but as a co-op experience it was great fun. If I want that old horror experience I go back to the first few, but I can understand why they felt they couldn't continue with the old style and make it financially viable given the decline in sales before RE4. Hell, I even love the Chronicles games and nobody ever seems to even acknowledge they exist.

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!PIEiuQiagg Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:06:00 No.129924983 Report

Quoted By:

what does silent hill and sonic both have in common

they're both dead

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The Second Doctor !!tNuDYn2wgOv Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:06:00 No.129924986 Report

Quoted By: >>129925365 >>129925541

>>129924697
The trouble is that the town itself was never really that interesting. The cult sideplot from the first game was just, to put it nicely, silly, and one of the bigger problems with Silent Hill 3 was that it tried to bring that up again (which is luckily alleviated given that Heather is an interesting protagonist and the game is still scary as fuck). Silent Hill 2 is great because it's mainly character-driven. We're never told what's wrong with the town and that's what makes it terrifying. It's just a fucking evil place. The other games kinda ruin that by just saying "LOL IT'S A SPOOKY CULT THAT'S DOING IT!".

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Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:07:00 No.129925021 Report

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>>129924914
It's on the second floor as I recall.

You'll know when you get into the room because there's a bright light in the middle of the room and mannequins everywhere.

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BMAlex !!+zLr81Zj/ci Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:07:00 No.129925031 Report

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>>129924914
There are 4 rooms you can enter downstairs (one is locked). You missed the flashlight ones.

You're new to this aren't you? Just take it easy and enjoy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:07:00 No.129925064 Report

Quoted By: >>129925254

>>129924885

then why phrase it as a question? That makes no sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:08:00 No.129925112 Report

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I prefer Silent Hill 3.
It ends the saga in a perfect way and deals with the remnants of Alessa. Silent Hill 2 is nice and all, but you pretty much figure everything out about that game and then it loses its glow. When it comes to Silent Hill 3, there are still some fucked up things I still don't get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:08:00 No.129925123 Report

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>>129924961
My mistake, haven't played in awhile, I just remember the notes implying that all the people in the tower were children.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:09:00 No.129925196 Report

Quoted By: >>129925320 >>129925329

Original nurses: scary as fuck

Contemporary nurses: no measure to how hard I'd hit it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:09:00 No.129925202 Report

Quoted By: >>129925872 >>129925878 >>129925893 >>129926582

>>129924697
No, Silent Hill 2 focused on the personal hell of James, and so every babby who played SH2 first thinks that's how Silent Hill is supposed to be, and that's what all games after 4 have tried to recapture.

Silent Hill was never about that. 1, 3 and 4 are all about very tangible, real supernatural shit. The cult is real, the demons are real, everything that happens to Harry, Heather and Henry is actually happening, not just in their head. That's what made these games so scary in the first place, because they actually made Silent Hill itself an oppressive, nasty town. SH2 and all the people clamoring for more protagonist-is-crazy stories are what destroyed the series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:10:00 No.129925229 Report

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>>129924787
> 4 Made it more combat heavy while also making combat more fluid

That's true, but I'd still hesitate to describe SH4's combat as being "fluid". The problem with emphasizing combat in Silent Hill is that it doesn't make the game more frightening or exciting. It just makes it frustrating.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:10:00 No.129925254 Report

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>>129925064
It was poorly phrased, all I was asking was if the game had been translated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:10:00 No.129925264 Report

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>Silent Hill SM's shadows

>The one where the kids drank too much alcohol and the kid was locked in some cage thingy, drowning.. ;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:10:00 No.129925275 Report

Quoted By:

> Seriana: the guy (?) posting pictures of dragon dildos yesterday
> A pony tripfag spouting nonsense
> BMAlex is okay, i guess

No wonder this thread quickly went less interesting.

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Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:11:00 No.129925320 Report

Quoted By: >>129925409 >>129925450 >>129925497 >>129925798

>>129925196
You realize that the nurses in Homecoming were made sexy on purpose?

They have large breasts and wide hips and hyper feminine characteristics to symbolize Alex's sexual frustration towards the nurses while he was in the hospital.

Take a closer look at them and you'll notice all the nurses are pregnant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:11:00 No.129925329 Report

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>>129925196
I believe that they were just created to wear those skimpy outfits, it got progressivly worse during each game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:12:00 No.129925365 Report

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>>129924986

The cult themselves are goofy but without that its not really Silent Hill. Their fingerprints are all the way through the second game, it just choose to introduce the town itself calling to lost souls. A hell of alot of the imagery and ideas are pulled from Occultism in general, loads of esoterica is throughout SH2, its just another one of the things people missed because its SH2 OMG he killed his wife OMG.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:12:00 No.129925409 Report

Quoted By: >>129925556

>>129925320
> pregnant

Wait wut

Really?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:13:00 No.129925450 Report

Quoted By: >>129925798

>>129925320
Plus it's a reference to how military nurses are 'spruced' up a bit to raise...morale...for wounded soldiers in military hospitals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:13:00 No.129925461 Report

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>>129924684
>I also recall several reports from people who had access to the demo saying that the controls were absolutely horrible.

I also recall hearing this, which more or less killed what little faith I had in the game.

But that was back when it was slated to be out in October. I've heard in more recent impressions that they've really polished everything up, including the combat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:14:00 No.129925497 Report

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>>129925320

Also its exactly how the nurses looked in the movie.

2deep4u

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:14:00 No.129925541 Report

Quoted By: >>129925724

>>129924986
Fuck you, the cult is the best thing going for Silent Hill. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with Silent Hill itself apart from having a slightly shady history. It's not haunted, it doesn't have demonic power, it is just a town with a nasty cult in it.

SH2 fucked this up by making it seem like the town's "demons" were influencing James and all of the other characters to be attacked by their personal skeletons, but it had nothing to do with the town. Nowadays, every shitty modern Silent Hill is all about the town being inherently supernatural, and that's why the series has turned to shit.

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Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:15:00 No.129925556 Report

Quoted By: >>129925751 >>129925841 >>129925945

>>129925409
Yeah. See?

Homecoming has a lot of emphasis on pregnancy, childbirth, and rebirth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:15:00 No.129925564 Report

Quoted By: >>129926194

>>129924879

well, in the sense that Climax obviously did focus on the problems of the characters principally, but they tried to flesh out the town as well. You know, with stuff like all the various rooms in the motel and the sad stories hinted at within them in Origins. Shattered Memories arguably did that much better, having that kind of Twin Peaks-style dissection of a supposedly idyllic stereotypical American town and the seedy, repressed underbelly. The father who takes his daughter to school and who's hinted at being sexually attracted to her. The constant adverts in the mall for lots of superficial glamorous products and makeovers and how everything is so fake and staged. The fact that big businesses like the mall have gone bust while a tiny little pawn shop, last refuge for the near-bankrupt, sits sadly behind it. The high school where students pledge to be with each other forever on their last day there, even while suicide, bullying and delinquency are rife at the place. The sad little amusement park, which promotes itself as some great and amazing tourist attraction but which is actually just pretty tiny and decrepid. There's just a sense of the town and its inhabitants pissing their lives away one day at a time.

I don't know, I've always thought the chief theme behind Shattered Memories was the 'coldness' of society in general, how everyone is obsessed with superficial displays of niceness, behavior, external appearance and all that, whereas what really matters is the human relationships beneath all that. Or is that looking too much into it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:15:00 No.129925598 Report

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Alright, I'm probably gonna cause a ragestorm. I only played 1, 2, Homecoming (I got it as a gift) and Shattered Memories (wanted to play something on the Wii for a change), about to play 3. First of all, I didn't find them scary, but they were (almost) all great games.
So...
2 > SM > 1 > Shit > Homecoming.
Shattered Memories and SH1 were both great, but 1 doesn't hold up well today (played it recently for the first time): clunky combat, laughable voice acting and so on. I also didn't like the story. The puzzles were the best in the series, but 2 and SM were more entertaining in the end.
Homecoming is crap and I couldn't bring myself to finish it. The others are great.
My two cents, I know I have shit taste and all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:16:00 No.129925624 Report

Quoted By: >>129925751

Nurses in Homecoming are not pregnant but yes, they're purposely sexual and look exactly like the nurses from the awful movie.

Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:16:00 No.129925669 Report

Quoted By: >>129925826

I think my favorite would have to be 2, because it was the first one I played, and that one i actually felt like most of the characters were insane. 3 had the katana though, and Shattered Memories went back to real survival horror and re amped everything that was wrong with the first one. (not saying the first one was bad though)

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The Second Doctor !!tNuDYn2wgOv Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:17:00 No.129925724 Report

Quoted By: >>129925937 >>129926262

>>129925541
What modern Silent Hills?

The only modern one that was shitty was Homecoming, and that one reintroduced the Cult AGAIN. Shattered Memories was pretty decent all things considered.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:18:00 No.129925749 Report

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Man /v/ I feel really bad. When I was younger I got SH4 for the computer, couldn't do anything with the controls and gave up. Since I received a strategy guide with the game, I decided I would just read the story from that. I spoiled everything for myself and I will never be surprised by anything when I try and find it for the PS2.

I can't even forget that chilling image of seeing Ghost!Henry on the other side of the peephole

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Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:18:00 No.129925751 Report

Quoted By:

>>129925624
see
>>129925556
Check in game, if you look at their corpse or when the nurses are immobile you can clearly see a bulge in their belly area.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:18:00 No.129925798 Report

Quoted By: >>129926010

>>129925450
>>129925320

Eh, I thought was never in the Army.
Didnt he hallucinate that when he was in the mental hospital ?
Because his dad wanted him to be in the army so much

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:19:00 No.129925826 Report

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>>129925669
>I think my favorite would have to be 2, because it was the first one I played

That's all you needed to type

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:19:00 No.129925841 Report

Quoted By:

>>129925556
>>129925556
Oh, God..

It just looks like a troll.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:19:00 No.129925872 Report

Quoted By:

>>129925202

I said personal hells of their protagonists AND antagonists, SH1 & 4's creatures and environments (perhaps less the first half of SH3) are all mainly derived from Alessa and Walter's pasts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:19:00 No.129925873 Report

Quoted By:

>>129921243

I actually liked this game, really

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:19:00 No.129925878 Report

Quoted By: >>129926341

>>129925202
You make it sound like SH2 was all in James's head. But it wasn't.

SH2 just emphasized the concept that Silent Hill could physically manifest the inner demons of anyone who came near it, not just Alessa. It didn't need to go into detail, other then letting you know that the town had always been a paranormal hot spot.

But I am getting tired of newer games recycling the same elements over and over and over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:20:00 No.129925893 Report

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>>129925202
So fucking true.

I'm not looking forward to play Downpour as it's probably going to be filled with lots of cliched "twists" etc

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:20:00 No.129925937 Report

Quoted By: >>129926091

>>129925724
The cult that was in Homecoming was the bastardized version of the cult from the movie. I fucking hated how the second half of the game became Hostal: The Sawing.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:20:00 No.129925938 Report

Quoted By: >>129926194

We have progress /v/!

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:20:00 No.129925945 Report

Quoted By: >>129926050

>>129925556
>>129925556
JUST LOOK AT IT FOR FUCKS SAKE

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:21:00 No.129926009 Report

Quoted By: >>129926112 >>129926196 >>129926260 >>129926361

>>129924349

>don't get your hope too high, i'm certainly not a weeboo but any SH that arent made by Team Silent will just suck.

Goddamn I hate this nonsense. I bet you think those guys from the real SH experience are great too. Downpour is looking at least very decent so far.

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Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:21:00 No.129926010 Report

Quoted By: >>129926087

>>129925798
That might have had something to do with it. Of course his insanity and desire to be a hero playing a part and all, blah blah.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:22:00 No.129926050 Report

Quoted By: >>129926181

>>129925945

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:22:00 No.129926082 Report

Quoted By:

>implying a man can care about his children
better replace him with a woman

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The Second Doctor !!tNuDYn2wgOv Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:22:00 No.129926087 Report

Quoted By: >>129926280

>>129926010
At this point I think we're just looking to far into it and this is all just a bunch of random symbolism they decided to slap together to seem 'deep'.

Kinda like with Neon Genesis Evangelion.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:23:00 No.129926091 Report

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>>129925937
Yeah jesus christ. I really wish they had never made that movie. Wouldn't suprise me if we see Pyramid Head/Boogey-Man in Downpour, even though they have said that he won't be in it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:23:00 No.129926112 Report

Quoted By: >>129926229

>>129926009

No, no its fucking not you self-delusional half wit

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:24:00 No.129926163 Report

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I didn't hear shit.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:24:00 No.129926181 Report

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>>129926050
UURRGGHHHH

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BMAlex !!+zLr81Zj/ci Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:24:00 No.129926194 Report

Quoted By: >>129926434

>>129925564
>I don't know, I've always thought the chief theme behind Shattered Memories was the 'coldness' of society in general, how everyone is obsessed with superficial displays of niceness, behavior, external appearance and all that, whereas what really matters is the human relationships beneath all that. Or is that looking too much into it?

It's Silent Hill, you can never stop looking into the abyss. I didn't see that kind of interpretation from anyone yet, so well done!

>>129925938

Fuck, I don't want to leave the thread now. Dammit. Oh well, hopefully it'll be alive later.

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The Second Doctor !!tNuDYn2wgOv Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:25:00 No.129926196 Report

Quoted By: >>129926356 >>129926378 >>129926609

>>129926009
Look at me with a straight face and tell me that Korn composing the music for the newest Silent Hill game is a good thing and will only lead to progress for the franchise as a whole.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:25:00 No.129926200 Report

Quoted By:

One of the things which really bugs me about Homecoming is that they could have really explored more of the whole lovecraftian 'Doomed by decisions your ancestors made centuries before you were even born' thing, not to mention the issue of having to make difficult, gut-wrenching choices under duress.

I did like that one Syphilis awareness poster in Fitch's office which mentions how a man's mistakes can come back to haunt his descendants years later, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:25:00 No.129926229 Report

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>>129926112

Oh shit. Okay, I'm sorry, you're right. It does look pretty awful now I can see. Thanks!
Nope

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:26:00 No.129926260 Report

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>>129926009
Shattered memories and homecoming fucking sucked. SH is supposed to be creepy and scary not fucking mainstream and actiony.

How the fuck am i supposed to be scared when everything in shattered memories is clearly separated in puzzle, run away and exploration? I don't even care about the fucking noises because i know nothing is going to happen

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:26:00 No.129926262 Report

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>>129925724
Shattered Memories sucked balls

When the game starts it's obvious there is going to be some kind of lame twist.
The town is also not Silent Hill
There is no horror because you know when there will be enemies and when there won't be any
Not even being close as atmospheric as the older titles. I fucking hate the game. The story was good, but it still didn't feel like Silent Hill at all

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Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:26:00 No.129926280 Report

Quoted By: >>129926394

>>129926087
I don't think so. There's a lot in Homecoming that's done very painstakingly and deliberately.

Like the 3 monsters in the otherworld attic.
One leaps out and attacks you head on.
Another is laying down in a corner and only gets up to fight you if you hit it first.
The last is hiding in a corner, crouching, hands covering its face as it is crying.

The first is Alex's father, harsh and aggressive. The second is Alex's mother, apathetic and emotionless. The third is Joshua, weeping for his loss and hiding from the world.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:27:00 No.129926303 Report

Quoted By: >>129928214 >>129928221

Can someone buy this for me please.

Cheers.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:27:00 No.129926340 Report

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no no no no no no..........

I'm just going to walk backwards and hope he was asleep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:27:00 No.129926341 Report

Quoted By: >>129926651 >>129926745 >>129926889

>>129925878
But that's fucking wrong. Silent Hill can't physically manifest shit, it's all related to the cult and White Claudia. Alessa manifests shit because she's a crazy psychic powerhouse who is pregnant with an elder god, and you mean to tell me that no, "the town" can do that too because there was that newspaper article in SH2 that mentioned something about a ship sinking in Toluca Lake.

White Claudia is a powerful drug that makes people come back to Silent Hill. Why do you think James went back?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:27:00 No.129926356 Report

Quoted By: >>129926432 >>129926475

>>129926196

That was trailer music for fuck's sake. Seen any of the most recent gameplay footage. If YOU can look at me with a straight face and tell me it's not looking promising you're probably one of those people that go "hmm, no that's not SH2, disregarded".

Oh and western horror was a huge influence for the Japanese team.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:27:00 No.129926361 Report

Quoted By: >>129926532

>>129926009
Actually they are pretty good.
But they act as fucking huge faggots which is enough to make everyone hate them. Nonetheless, they are right about pretty much everything they talk about when it comes to Silent Hill

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:28:00 No.129926378 Report

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>>129926196

they're only composing the title and end theme tunes aren't they? I thought some David something guy was doing the main score. I have no beef with that.

But seriously guys, you have to be one of the most pessimistic fanbases ever, perhaps even more so at this point than the Fallout fans at NMA as they were just after F3. It doesn't do yourself any favours.

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The Second Doctor !!tNuDYn2wgOv Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:28:00 No.129926394 Report

Quoted By: >>129926537

>>129926280
You forgot the mutilated/ lobotomized monster in the basement.

You don't get a cookie for figuring out who that represents.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:28:00 No.129926432 Report

Quoted By:

>>129926356
Actually it looks like it would appeal perfectly to people who liked SH2 and no one else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:28:00 No.129926434 Report

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>>129926194
>that image

holy shit, i had one of my biggest childhood nooope when that scene started, and accompanied by that fucking disturbing soundtrack.
BTW what is that thing ? what are those two legs above it ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:29:00 No.129926475 Report

Quoted By: >>129926570

>>129926356
uhhhrr, people mostly don't like it because it tries to copy the story from SH2. I wish they could come up with something new or just stop making Silent Hill games and make a new horror franchise

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:30:00 No.129926532 Report

Quoted By: >>129926721

>>129926361

>if it's not made by Team Silent it sucks
>lalala can't hear you
>photoshop an image and claim it was hidden in the SH2 files to support your theory
>delete criticism

They're still douchebags.

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Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:30:00 No.129926537 Report

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>>129926394
I only didn't mention it because I figured the first three summed up my point succinctly.

Look at the monsters themselves. That one monster that looks like a hammerhead shark. Its head is split down the middle.
Split head. Split mind. Schizophrenia. Insanity. Alex is fighting off a physical embodiment of insanity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:30:00 No.129926550 Report

Quoted By:

Someone mentioned Theme of Hanna

http://youtu.be/y6d9nvrq2fM

Yes. Fuck yea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:31:00 No.129926570 Report

Quoted By: >>129926785

>>129926475

No one knows the story.

Sage01

Sage01 Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:31:00 No.129926582 Report

Quoted By: >>129926680

>>129925202
My thought s on what Silent Hill is

>>you can only escape if you can face your inner demons
>>if you have something to do with Silent Hill it will find you
>>Everything that happens there is not an illusion of the fog(such a retarded theory)
>>Everyone perceives Silent Hill differently but something will always remain constant since it's also Alessa's and the rest of the town's fucked up shit brought to life

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:31:00 No.129926609 Report

Quoted By: >>129926895 >>129926948

>>129926196
Korn composing the music for the newest Silent Hill game is a good thing and will only lead to progress for the franchise as a whole.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:32:00 No.129926651 Report

Quoted By: >>129926764 >>129927130 >>129927210

>>129926341
The town can manifest things on it own. It is said that after the ritual with Alessa in the first game, the town's dark powers awakened.

Also, I think the cult is based on people that had visions that actually were hallicunations brought by the town itself, but I have nothing to support that statement

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:32:00 No.129926680 Report

Quoted By: >>129926915 >>129926958 >>129927130

>>129926582
Everything you just said is wrong and is exactly why Silent Hill as a franchise is dead.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:33:00 No.129926709 Report

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I'm actually scared more of these moths than pyramid head. At least pyramid head didn't move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:33:00 No.129926721 Report

Quoted By:

>>129926532
What image did they photoshop?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:33:00 No.129926745 Report

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>>129926341

That's one of the ambiguities though, isn't it? Maybe James is being tormented by a supernatural force that isn't so much vindictive as it is just... well, perhaps it does the whole 'manifesting people's fears' unconsciously. It's just something it does. Maybe he's a drug addict who killed his wife and is now suffering some kind of overdose. Perhaps it's all just the lingering residue of the cult's actions in 1. Perhaps he never even went to silent hill but simply retreats there mentally in an attempt to escape his crime. It's all left purposefully ambiguous and open-ended.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:34:00 No.129926761 Report

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This seems like a good idea James.

How about we leave it alone and go home?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:34:00 No.129926764 Report

Quoted By: >>129926840

>>129926651
>It is said that after the ritual with Alessa in the first game, the town's dark powers awakened
>It is said

[By whom?]

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:34:00 No.129926785 Report

Quoted By:

>>129926570
bitch plz

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:35:00 No.129926840 Report

Quoted By:

>>129926764
It is mentioned in Book of Lost Memories. Didn't mean awakened, mean't more "it got stronger"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:36:00 No.129926889 Report

Quoted By:

>>129926341
>White Claudia is a powerful drug that makes people come back to Silent Hill. Why do you think James went back?

You're implying that James went back to Silent Hill because he needed to get his fix of White Claudia? Or that he was hallucinating as a result of drug experimentation?

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The Second Doctor !!tNuDYn2wgOv Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:36:00 No.129926895 Report

Quoted By: >>129927287

>>129926609
I'll give you a pat on the back for taking the time out to make that.

I'll admit, I laughed a bit more than I should've.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:36:00 No.129926915 Report

Quoted By: >>129927252

>>129926680

not that guy but in that case, sum up what you think the series embodies

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:37:00 No.129926948 Report

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>>129926609
0/10
troll harder

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:37:00 No.129926958 Report

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>>129926680
So, to you, everything by everyone are just hallucinations and such? The town has no powers whatsoever? Are you a golden person enough to say that your opinion is the only valid on a purposefully ambiguous series?

You actually think the Bad+ ending from SH1 is canon, dontcha.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:38:00 No.129927004 Report

Quoted By: >>129927256 >>129927405 >>129927545

are all silent hill forums as bad as this

just asking

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:38:00 No.129927027 Report

Quoted By: >>129927108 >>129927292

I'm currently playing through all the Silent Hill games in order of release, I'm currently on The Room. So far I think 2 has the best story, 3 was the best game overall and The Room has the most unnerving atmosphere.

The first games atmosphere is still amazing and has some great puzzles but beyond that it hasn't aged well at all.

Also Heather is probably my favourite protagonist in any game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:40:00 No.129927108 Report

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>>129927027
>You have obtained 215 'MAH NIGGA' credits for the Heather comment.

Sage01

Sage01 Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:40:00 No.129927130 Report

Quoted By: >>129927292 >>129927312 >>129927335 >>129927383 >>129927480 >>129927530

>>129926651
The Fog in the first one was said to be drugs they were burning, but that gets thrown out the window pretty fucking quick specially in the sequels

>>129926680
How come? All of the first 4 protagonists in the games by Team Silent have had to face their inner most shit. Everyone has their own version of SH but some things are
Constant and never change and again this is in the Team Silent games. If they had some baggage relating to Silent Hill no matter how sane they were they were still drawn in (Henry and the victims), yet again another Team Silent game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:41:00 No.129927210 Report

Quoted By: >>129927509

>>129926651
>Also, I think the cult is based on people that had visions that actually were hallicunations brought by the town itself, but I have nothing to support that statement.

Doesn't SH3 mention that The Order's religion is based on the deities worshiped by the local Native American tribes found during its settlement?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:42:00 No.129927252 Report

Quoted By: >>129927530

>>129926915
I'm not that guy you replied to but Silent Hill to me is gore, occultism, psychological horror, etc not just personal hells, but pretty much the whole horror genre fits in Silent Hill. That's why I think it is sad that the makers of Downpour are just focusing on making a SH2 ripoff.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:42:00 No.129927256 Report

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>>129927004
Generally, yes. Sometimes worse.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:42:00 No.129927269 Report

Quoted By: >>129927358 >>129927380 >>129927389

What now, /v/?

I have a clock key, I assumed it was the key to the clock cupboard but apparently not. It's actually a key with a clock on it?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:43:00 No.129927287 Report

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>>129926895
I was wondering if someone was going to notice. I don't have photoshop, so MSpaint will have to do.

>Thanks for the pat, I now feel slightly virtually violated

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:43:00 No.129927292 Report

Quoted By: >>129927818

>>129927130

>The Fog in the first one was said to be drugs they were burning

...what

when did that get mentioned

>>129927027

I fucking love Heather, but that line of hers at the very end when she says 'blondes have more fun' after killing a half-aborted god foetus and avenging her father, who was brutally murdered only about half a day earlier, was just haha what out of place

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:43:00 No.129927312 Report

Quoted By: >>129928096

>>129927130
Harry never had to face his inner demons. He handled with Alessas nightmares

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The Second Doctor !!tNuDYn2wgOv Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:43:00 No.129927335 Report

Quoted By: >>129927502 >>129927557

>>129927130
>All of the first 4 protagonists in the games by Team Silent have had to face their inner most shit
Really? I recall Peter just being an unlucky bastard who moved into the wrong place at the wrong time.

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Seriana !!ooPPuqnTfWS Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:44:00 No.129927358 Report

Quoted By: >>129927581

>>129927269
You use it to open the grandfather clock and you change the time.

You can move the clock after.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:44:00 No.129927380 Report

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>>129927269
Use it to open the face plate of a clock in one of the apartments. You have to mess around with the clock arrows; it's a puzzle. Clues are on the same room. Easy.

Sage01

Sage01 Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:44:00 No.129927383 Report

Quoted By: >>129927534

>>129927130
BTW if Silent Hill is just the sideeffect of the fog to you you're fucking retarded, there's no way they could keep burning so much shit and there's no fucking benefit from it either. Hell in the atrocious comic mini series there's a bunch of spec ops with gas masks trying to invade silent hill, guess what? They get their shit slapped in a couple of hours.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:44:00 No.129927389 Report

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>>129927269
there is a clock in of the rooms. You can now open it and change the time

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:45:00 No.129927405 Report

Quoted By:

>>129927004
Yes.

Silent Hill fans hate each other because they all like the series for vastly differing reasons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:46:00 No.129927480 Report

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>>129927130
>All of the first 4 protagonists in the games by Team Silent have had to face their inner most shit.

No. Harry was simply a pawn in the fight between Alessa and Dahlia, he had no personal demons whatsoever. Heather had to deal with a literal personal demon, but she was simply thrust into cult bullshit through no fault of her own. Henry was also just "chosen" by Walter; the only mistake he made was moving into Room 302. Shit, SH4 hardly has anything to do with Silent Hill at all.

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The Second Doctor !!tNuDYn2wgOv Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:46:00 No.129927502 Report

Quoted By: >>129927738

>>129927335
Why the fuck did I say Peter? I meant Henry.

Fuck I'm tired.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:46:00 No.129927509 Report

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>>129927210
Yeah, but I think those natives had visions too. It would explain why they are all so fanatical

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:47:00 No.129927530 Report

Quoted By: >>129927674

>>129927252

Gore? Would never have thought that was a particularly big part of SH. Anyway, psychological horror and occultism are both present in SH2, so if they're going for similarities to 2 with Downpour they should be in just fine.

>>129927130

>All of the first 4 protagonists in the games by Team Silent have had to face their inner most shit

I'm pretty sure that was only really the case in 2 and possibly 3, in 1 and 4 for sure the world and all its creatures were the result of the antagonists' minds, not Harry's or Henry's. Except possibly Eileen's Head being a reflection of Henry's voyeurism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:47:00 No.129927534 Report

Quoted By:

>>129927383
>Silent Hill comics

Those aren't canon with the games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:47:00 No.129927545 Report

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>>129927004
The old ones were all dedicated to hardcore theorycraft, some of the best communities around. Now it's all just a SH2 circlejerk, kind of like this thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:47:00 No.129927557 Report

Quoted By: >>129929164

>>129927335

You mean Henry?

And yeah, out of the 4 only James really had to face his inner demons (and yet its the "series standard!" for some god damned reason).

1. Harry has to deal with Alessia's inner demons (this eventually causes the final boss demon manifestation).
2. James deals with self (Pyramid Head et all)
3. Heather deals with the residual effects of Alessia's rebirth.
4. Henry discovers a reason for a new lease while tapping his neighbors, sweet sweet ass.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:47:00 No.129927581 Report

Quoted By: >>129927832 >>129928220

>>129927358
Ah I had to actually 'Use' the key.

I'm confused about this riddle though, I can't think of anything significant about time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:49:00 No.129927674 Report

Quoted By: >>129927867 >>129928013

>>129927530
All the yucky monsters and the dead corpses everywhere and the blood, oh the blood. That's pretty gorey to me

and no, there is only occultism in SH2 if you try to get one of the extra endings.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:50:00 No.129927738 Report

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>>129927502
>>129927502
Now this is just getting ridiculous.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:51:00 No.129927818 Report

Quoted By: >>129931980

>>129927292
I'm surprised that you mentioned that line rather than when she joked about her planning to kill Douglas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:51:00 No.129927832 Report

Quoted By: >>129928220

>>129927581
Okay I notice the three names on the wall with hands of time next to them. I know nothing of these three people, none seem significant yet if there is no second then I can only pick two.

Am I meant to match them together as a name? Henry Scott?

Or two lovers?
Scott Milenda?

Hmm...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:52:00 No.129927867 Report

Quoted By: >>129928505 >>129928959

>>129927674
>and no, there is only occultism in SH2 if you try to get one of the extra endings.

While it's not as prominent as in the other games, the cult has very much to do with the events of SH2 and all the characters involved. But you were probably too focused on OH MAN JAMES KILLED HIS WIFE to notice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:53:00 No.129927968 Report

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Silent hill 2 is the best one.
Silent hill 3 is an abomination done of great music, graphics and separate moments sewed together by awful storytelling and level design.
Silent hill 4 is most scary one, but second part is poorly done.
Homecoming could've been great, because of idea - qualified man in world of terror. Doesn't work on that part.
Shattered memories is on par with 2 in case of atmosphere, but game just shatteres on you when you realise there is no real danger outside ice world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:54:00 No.129927994 Report

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1 - "Every father's worst nightmare"

2 - "Love and Guilt"

3 - "Fear of the Cosmic"

4 - "Shut-ins look inwards with jealousy"

Origins - "Outsiders on the edge of society"

Homecoming - "Paying for the sins of your forebears"

Shattered Memories - "Trapped in your own grief"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:54:00 No.129928013 Report

Quoted By: >>129928179 >>129928486

>>129927674
Silent Hill isn't that bloody, you're probably just mistaking the excessive rust and grime and other red-tinged effects for gore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:54:00 No.129928024 Report

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>>129923839

wot.

but that's wrong.

ff9 is basically ff7 fantasy version

i mean really.

Sage01

Sage01 Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:55:00 No.129928096 Report

Quoted By: >>129928300 >>129928335 >>129928438 >>129929164

>>129927312
Then why was he searching for his "daughter"? Why did the demon give Harry Heather? Why did he care so much about Cheryl? Harry's problems with Silent Hill were quite personal, that's why it seems it's just Alessa's baggage but it's his too to a certain extent.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:56:00 No.129928179 Report

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>>129928013
Yeah right

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!!fMAN7X9hJxW Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:57:00 No.129928214 Report

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>>129926303
http://kat. ph/silent-hill-soundtracks-t354926.html

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:57:00 No.129928220 Report

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>>129927832
>>129927581
Hmm it was Scott and Mildred.
I have no idea if this is meant to mean anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:57:00 No.129928221 Report

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>>129926303

Fuck it, I just ordered this, should sit nicely next to my hideously over priced Shadows of the Damned OST.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:58:00 No.129928296 Report

Quoted By: >>129928372

Hey

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:58:00 No.129928300 Report

Quoted By: >>129929637

>>129928096
Harry doesn't have personal problems. He went to Silent Hill once (it's a huge popular tourist town, remember), they found Cheryl OUTSIDE of Silent Hill, and his wife died. Apart from Cheryl being intrinsically tied to all the cult shit going down in Silent Hill, Harry's personal connection to the town is minimal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:58:00 No.129928335 Report

Quoted By: >>129929637

>>129928096
He didn't get Heather from some demon, it was Alessa. Cheryl is his daughter, ofc he cares about her. I get impression you are trolling

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:59:00 No.129928372 Report

Quoted By: >>129928604 >>129928617 >>129928650

>>129928296
Come on. That shit wasn't even scary. Know what is fucking scary?
Twins just standing and pointing at you

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:00:00 No.129928438 Report

Quoted By: >>129928673 >>129929637

>>129928096

He was searching for his daughter because... he loved her? Alessa gives Harry her remaining soul because she thanks him for giving part of her at least some sort of normal life. He cares about Cheryl because to him he's her daughter?

Unless you're going for the theory that actually the whole of Silent Hill 1 is a manifestation of Harry's insecurity, the insecurity all men feel at some point that their kids aren't really their own but somebody else's. Except that Harry knows she definitely isn't his, and his (possible) addiction to PTV only makes his paranoia worse.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:01:00 No.129928486 Report

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>>129928013
wanna shoot some hoops?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:01:00 No.129928505 Report

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>>129927867
The cult is only background-material in that game. They have pretty much nothing to do with Silent Hill 2.
I wish there were more cult in SH2, then the Downpour-guys would have a harder time trying to dismiss the cult as garbage.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:01:00 No.129928548 Report

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Some very conveniently placed handgun bullets I just found. Why would they be there?

Pyramid Head is behind this door.... isn't he?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:02:00 No.129928604 Report

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>>129928372
>That shit wasn't even scary

I beg to differ

it's the weirdest thing I ever saw in the videogame

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:02:00 No.129928617 Report

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>>129928372
Maybe not scary but it was a great what-the-fuck moment. The whole hospital was one big freak show, I loved it. Don't the twins whisper shit to you too?

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The Second Doctor !!tNuDYn2wgOv Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:03:00 No.129928650 Report

Quoted By: >>129928740 >>129928810

>>129928372
It was gonna be even worse, they were originally gonna give the twins high-pitched baby squeals that reacted to you hitting them. You can still hear it in the trailer for the game.

Speaking of, the trailer for SH4 is one of the best I've ever seen for a video game. Shit's pretty fucking terrifying, man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIZlIQKquNk

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:03:00 No.129928673 Report

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>>129928438
As Harry himself states in Lost Memories:

"I don't have very many relationships with people because of what I do for a living (he's a writer), so Cheryl's existence has become irreplaceable to me. Cheryl was very much looking forward to this trip."

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:04:00 No.129928740 Report

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>>129928650
Strange that they changed that and not the belching patients.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:04:00 No.129928754 Report

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You know when you replay Silent Hill 3 and you enter the sewers? And the walls get all fleshy... (they don't do that the first time you play)

always gets to me ):

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:05:00 No.129928810 Report

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>>129928650
The enemy sounds in SH4 felt incomplete to me. The generic bobcat noises and the burping had to have been placeholders that they just never replaced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:05:00 No.129928819 Report

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I'm going with Silent Hill 2 because I was completely immersed in the experience. I was confused, but also felt like I had to figure out what the hell was going on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:06:00 No.129928836 Report

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>>129921418
Wait wait wait, there's a point and click style Silent Hill game all of my money

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:06:00 No.129928885 Report

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whack

burburburburburburburp

ugghh

burburburburburburburp

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:07:00 No.129928959 Report

Quoted By:

>>129927867
What direct role did The Order play in SH2's story?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:08:00 No.129928963 Report

Quoted By: >>129929048

>>129921243
Shattered Memories was awesome, but it's a reimagining of the first game through and through, it's certainly not meant to be canon. Still, dat ending.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:08:00 No.129929012 Report

Quoted By: >>129929128

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RcYW_GxpGY

say what you like about shattered memories, but this was one of the best tracks in the entire series

I felt like the whole lakeside amusement park thematically tied together the series

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:09:00 No.129929048 Report

Quoted By: >>129929232

>>129928963
Too bad it wasn't scary

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:10:00 No.129929128 Report

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>>129929012
Yeah I like some of the tracks in dat gaem. Probably the best part of the game

Sage01

Sage01 Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:11:00 No.129929164 Report

Quoted By: >>129929357 >>129929382

>>129927557
>>Harry
see >>129928096

>>Heather
Well actually wasn't she the child who was given to Harry? Wasn't that child Cheryl/Alessa's reincarnation? If anything Heather's problems with Silent Hill are just as personal as her father's

>>Henry
Proof that complete strangers can be sucked in and that Silent Hill is not the drug infused fog's fuckery. Also his inner demons is being a shut in to the rest of the world yet selfishly being altruistic to ease his mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:12:00 No.129929232 Report

Quoted By: >>129929780 >>129930054

>>129929048

I don't know, the idea of being trapped in endless grief and delusion is pretty scary to me, plus the realisation that not only is Harry dead, but Heather never even knew what he was really like. So in that sense, it's like he's died twice - once literally, and again because his true self no longer lives on in her memories, because she never truly knew what he was like. I think that's pretty scary, or at least deeply unsettling.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:12:00 No.129929253 Report

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Going to buy Silent Hill HD Collection on the first day, but still feel kinda bad about that they didn't keep the old voices in the 3rd game

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:13:00 No.129929273 Report

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Silent Hill 1 is still the best game in the series.
SH2 is the close second.

Games after SH4 sucked ass, except SM, which was only lacking in the horror elements.
Downpour I'm actually looking froward to, the devs seem to be actually understanding what made the original SH games good. Unlike the makers of Book Of Memories.... brrr...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:14:00 No.129929357 Report

Quoted By: >>129929983

>>129929164
You're equating the vague/non-existent ties Harry, Heather and Henry have to Silent Hill as "personal problems" on the same level as James killing his fucking wife. None of these protagonists have anywhere near the same level of problems or reasons for being in Silent Hill as James does.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:14:00 No.129929367 Report

Quoted By: >>129930083

>mfw this part would have QTEs if it was ever remade.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:14:00 No.129929382 Report

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>>129929164
>Redirects reply about Harry to a reply that doesn't explain shit

Go to bed kiddo

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:15:00 No.129929431 Report

Quoted By: >>129929563 >>129929748

silent hill 1
>monster introduction scene
no other game in the series can really compare. it wasn't bad in SH2 but in SH3 they really blew it. the descent into darkness, the sirens going off, meaty cages and insane industrial noises. not to mention those kickass camera angles. the way the camera crawls along the walls of the alleyway and bends down around the corners like it's through the eyes of some monster watching you. that shit was so good they copied it shot for shot in the movie.
>new world
by the time i played SH2 and SH3 i knew what to expect but in SH1 everything was a suprise
>clunky controls
killing enemies was a real challenge and almost impossible to pull off cleanly. running away wasn't very responsive either but it was certainly easier than trying to get a clean melee hit on a monster. i used to dread every time i had to sprint through old silent hill, tripping down stairs and running into walls desperately searching for the entrance while being chased by packs of monk men.
>music/setting
the otherworld music in SH1 was totally insane. loud paranoid industrial banging noises. whereas the SH2 setting seemed sort of melancholy the SH1 setting was often purely hostile.
>minimal human contact
i think SH1 has some of the least contact with other humans in the series. i felt much less alone.
>nostalgia
the first time i played this game i was 8 and at the time no other horror game i had experienced really came close

all in all i would have to say SH1 > SH2 (cool story) > SH3 (scary monsters) > SH4 (never finished it)

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:16:00 No.129929543 Report

Quoted By: >>129929620

>American remake of SH2.jpg

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:17:00 No.129929563 Report

Quoted By: >>129929975

>>129929431
>minimal human contact
i think SH1 has some of the least contact with other humans in the series. i felt much less alone.

That's something I wish more horror-games had

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!7fDdP8n3is Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:17:00 No.129929584 Report

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>>129922419
>>129922419
>>129922419
>>129922419
>>129922419
THIS

altho I would rather compare it to the Metal Gear Series.

MGS1 was EPIC and alot of people havent played itfor graphics.
MGS2 was super over-hyped and alot of casuals will say 2 is best.
3 improved on everything and is the best in the series.
4 was bad for the casuals who liked 2, and alright for the people who love the series in general.

Also, I liked SH:SM and even 0rigins. Also, Peace Walker is awesome

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:17:00 No.129929620 Report

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>>129929543
oh dear god

Sage01

Sage01 Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:18:00 No.129929637 Report

Quoted By: >>129929883 >>129930130 >>129931087

>>129928438
>>129928335
>>129928300
Harry's insecurities of being useless on his own are heavily represented by his clinginess to the Fem Nurse and Cybil, him not being able to protect Cheryl/Heather excaberates it even further

>>129928335
Alessa is a fucking demon, rather she wasturned into one

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:19:00 No.129929748 Report

Quoted By: >>129930248

>>129929431
>i think SH1 has some of the least contact with other humans in the series. i felt much less alone.

You were trying to say something here but it doesn't make sense. SH1 had plenty of human contact, anyway, but it was always in foggy SH rather than rusty SH. That's part of what made alternate SH even scarier, was knowing that you'd have no human contact. Lisa was of course the exception to this, but we know why that is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:20:00 No.129929780 Report

Quoted By:

>>129929232
In that sense I agree with you, but gameplay wise I didn't find it scary at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:21:00 No.129929883 Report

Quoted By: >>129930304

>>129929637
...you couldn't be more wrong. You probably think all the monsters are Alessas minions too...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:22:00 No.129929975 Report

Quoted By: >>129930528 >>129930702

>>129929563
*much more alone, sorry
and yeah, i know what you mean

oh yeah, and another thing that made SH1 terrifying
practically every other time you walk into a room..
only about 3 feet around you is lit up
the radio starts blaring inane noises
and the camera is pointed right fucking at you so you can literally only see yourself and a foot or two in front of you.
the auto-aim kind of clicks onto an enemy when you look at them (although you miss half the time anyway) and you have to fire at the direction of the camera not even knowing what the fuck you're shooting at.
other times you run blindly around the room trying to get the camera to turn around and then slam right into a monster who suddenly pops into view

Sage01

Sage01 Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:23:00 No.129929983 Report

Quoted By: >>129930356

>>129929357
Henry has no ties to Silent Hill but his personal demons get manifested several times. The game's good ending has him shaggin' his neighbor because he finally learned to open up to others.

Harry's insecurities about being inept alone and failures to protect Cheryl/Heather from the occult are as personal as it gets

Heather's daddy issues and the fact she's another protal/demon is fucking personal as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:24:00 No.129930054 Report

Quoted By: >>129930108

>>129929232
No that wasn't very scary. But Climax Studios think they made a really scary game and Devin Shetsky and that other think they "learned alot about horror" from making Shattered Memories. This is one of the reasons why I think Downpour will suck

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:24:00 No.129930083 Report

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>>129929367
>>129929367
Hmm I got across to the other building through the fire escape window. Now I don't have a map for this place and no idea where i'm meant to be heading. Doesn't help that there are monsters everywhere as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:24:00 No.129930108 Report

Quoted By: >>129930484

>>129930054
But Climax aren't making Downpour.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:25:00 No.129930130 Report

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>>129929637
Harry isn't clingy to Cybil at all, she's kind of a bitch and you can even kill her. Any clinginess you might have noticed would be explained by Harry clinging to ANY human contact in the otherwise desolate and hostile Silent Hill. But even there I disagree, because he is more than happy to run off on his own for the sake of saving his daughter. He's not insecure about needing help because he doesn't need any fucking help, he doesn't ask anyone for help at all, he only asks if anyone has seen his daughter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:26:00 No.129930248 Report

Quoted By:

>>129929748
that's what i meant

Sage01

Sage01 Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:27:00 No.129930304 Report

Quoted By: >>129930626 >>129930849 >>129931064

>>129929883
But they're not, they're the town's folk stuck in Silent Hill in eternal torment. Some are her fucked up issues with herself and the care takers the cult provided, but I bet most of them wrre just town's folk caught up in a rising shitstorm. As I said before though if you're among the crowd that thik that Silent Hill is the byproduct of the fog that's so fucking retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:28:00 No.129930356 Report

Quoted By: >>129930889

>>129929983
Once again, your original point that SH is about protagonists facing their personal demons is bullshit, because you're equating H^3's vague connections to the town to James killing his wife. The entire PLOT of SH2 is about James facing his personal demons, the monsters he fights are literal manifestations of his guilt, everything has to do with him. The other games do not center around the protagonist or their "personal demons," they explicitly involve cult bullshit and the main character getting dragged into supernatural fuckery for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:30:00 No.129930484 Report

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>>129930108

No but Devin Shetsky and Tom Hullett, whom both are the "bosses" over the game come from Climax studios and they pretty much did everything in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:30:00 No.129930528 Report

Quoted By: >>129930702

>>129929975
fucking this
>enter room
>camera is 6 inches from your face
>panic
>unload a clips into invisible enemies
>start to reload
>giant monster pops onto the camera right in front of me
>sprint around the room running into other monsters/walls/etc
>get grabbed
>scream and mash buttons
>monsters start gathering around me like a snack
every time

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:32:00 No.129930626 Report

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>>129930304
>they're the town's folk stuck in Silent Hill in eternal torment

Oh god you really are this retarded. Silent Hill 3 made it very clear that it is a big tourist town where all the shit that happens in the games is completely independent of the actual, real world Silent Hill. While Harry, James and Heather are all running around hell world, there's still a real world Silent Hill with tons of people just going about their daily lives as if nothing else is happening.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:33:00 No.129930702 Report

Quoted By: >>129931138

>>129930528
>>129929975
>entering a room with your light lit up
I learned to keep that thing off and walk slowly already at age of 12.

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BMAlex !!+zLr81Zj/ci Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:33:00 No.129930770 Report

Quoted By: >>129931864

>thread still alive

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:35:00 No.129930849 Report

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>>129930304
Seriously, you have EXACTLY EVERYTHING WRONG. I'm fucking shocked right now, so I hope seriously that you are just trolling.

First of, the "demon" in the first game you fought as a boss, that was God, not Alessa. When everything ends, Alessa reappears and gives Harry Heather.

Fem Nurse? You mean Lisa? She was manifested by ALESSA in order to distract Harry while she was making all those signs that would hinder Gods birth.

There is nothing personal at all for Henry in Silent Hill 4. Everything is made up from Walters head.

The personal stuff in SH3 is semi-personal. She is basically just fighting her past, the memories of Alessa, but Heather is at the same time a completely different person.

Go to bed.

Sage01

Sage01 Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:35:00 No.129930889 Report

Quoted By: >>129931015 >>129931048

>>129930356
Henry's room turns into his prison for days or maybe more. It was once because of him being a Hikikomori, but eventually it was because of the occult. Several of the calustrophobic rooms and moments the game has as he tries to save strangers but half assedly makes contact with them proves this.

Heather is a vessel for a demon, a fucking demon, Harry failed to protect his daughter from this, how is that not something agonizing and horrible?

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BMAlex !!+zLr81Zj/ci Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:37:00 No.129931015 Report

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>>129930889
> It was once because of him being a Hikikomori

What? The guy was a shy photographer that kept to himself, not a shut-in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:37:00 No.129931048 Report

Quoted By: >>129931141

>>129930889
okay, seriously let's ignore this fucker. He has to be trolling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:38:00 No.129931064 Report

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>>129930304

The only monsters in Silent Hill that could arguably be fucked up residents of the town are the doctors and nurses in the hospital. Even then, they might still be original manifestations that come from Alessa's hospital experience.

But to comment on the irrelevant discussion before this, I wouldn't consider Alessa a "demon" at any point in the game, even when she's on the verge of giving birth to the God. I'd consider it more of a demonic possession than a demonic transformation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:38:00 No.129931087 Report

Quoted By: >>129931268

>>129929637

What? Alessia isn't a demon at all. She's a girl with a somewhat powerful psychic connection that was horrible neglected by her mother to the point that she the town went to shit.
You know how all the enemies in SH1 are reflections of Alessia's inner fears? So is the God at the end. It isn't an actual independent thing; like the rest of the monsters, it's simply what Alessia's subconscious thinks the god she's been abused for would look and act like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:39:00 No.129931138 Report

Quoted By: >>129931392

>>129930702
often you don't have a choice
a lot of the rooms are already lit
the school had some of the worst of those cinematic camera angles
>enter hallway
>camera is halfway down hallway pointing at you
>slowly walk towards camera
>getting closer
>radio starts making noise
>danger music comes on
ohshitohshit
>sprint at the camera
>pass the middle of the hall
>camera flips around behind you
>run into something
>horde of monsters right in front of you
>run back down hall
>camera flips back around
>watch monsters walk past the camera and shamble towards you as you fire sporadically

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:39:00 No.129931141 Report

Quoted By: >>129932135

>>129931048

I was about to say that you should really stop replying to the fuckwad because hes obviously leading you on with "intentional logical falacies XD"

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BMAlex !!+zLr81Zj/ci Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:40:00 No.129931268 Report

Quoted By: >>129931517

>>129931087
>Alessia

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:42:00 No.129931392 Report

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>>129931138
Nope. All rooms are 100% dark in SH1, unless it is day-time town going on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:43:00 No.129931517 Report

Quoted By: >>129931862 >>129931865

>>129931268

Nigga its like 10 am and I went to bed 3 hours ago. I'm tired as shit.

Besides, my main point still stands. There is no evil "God" in SH1. Only a fake creation invented by Alessa's fears

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:48:00 No.129931862 Report

Quoted By: >>129932513 >>129932961

>>129931517
So you think that Alessa's psychic powers are solely responsible for all the supernatural occurrences in Silent Hill?

How do you explain Silent Hill 4?

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:48:00 No.129931864 Report

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>>129930770
OP here.
>mfw you're right, Captain Obvious!

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BMAlex !!+zLr81Zj/ci Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:48:00 No.129931865 Report

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>>129931517
While I agree with you wholeheartedly, there simply can't be a canon interpretation with SH regarding anything. Even this theory has cracks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:49:00 No.129931980 Report

Quoted By: >>129932283

>>129927818
>he got the ending where she was joking

I always made Heather stab the guy

Sage01

Sage01 Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:51:00 No.129932135 Report

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>>129931141
Well then fuck this thread then if you're going to be such an aspie about everything, plus I have an arabic and calculus class to get to

Mahr Salama!

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Anonymous Prime !!52Q3LB1fqFv Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:53:00 No.129932273 Report

Quoted By: >>129932434

I love each Silent Hill, but I have the most love for 4. I just liked everything about it. The atmosphere, the dread of feeling that your only safe place was slowly dying and with it you just made it very intense to keep playing through.
>mfw the main enemy has the ability to use weapons just like me
Still sad they didn't include it in the HD Release.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:53:00 No.129932283 Report

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>>129931980
you should not be able to even GET that ending unless you've beaten the game once.

And even then you get it by killing pretty much everything on your way, which points towards cheating or low difficulty

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:54:00 No.129932381 Report

Quoted By: >>129932612 >>129932674 >>129934645

You know what I'd really love to see? A Silent Hill game with dual protagonists. Either make it a game with two stories on one map, or make it one story with toggle between characters, or a give each character their own chapters. It'd be really fun to have a male+female couple wind up in Silent Hill on the way to their wedding only to have all kinds of commitment issues manifest in the town. Key events could move either character along a sliding scale of commitment, with the ending varying based on whether one character is unfaithful to the other, which one is unfaithful and which one is, whether both choose to be unfaithful, whether they stay faithful and then a variation on each outcome based on decisions leading to one or both characters' death(s).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:55:00 No.129932413 Report

Quoted By: >>129932602 >>129932674 >>129932841

So what I gather from this thread is
The CITY Silent Hill is a being of its own, and while it is normally a touristic city, people with inner demons and ties with the occult will enter its dark side.

I played all SH1,3 and 4, but never managed to get the story right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:55:00 No.129932434 Report

Quoted By: >>129932573

>>129932273
You.... actually made SH4 sound....interesting. Good job.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:56:00 No.129932513 Report

Quoted By: >>129932674 >>129932864 >>129932961 >>129933512

>>129931862
Also Dahlia's powers. Everyone involved with the cult has psychic powers to some degree. You also have to accept that the demons the cult worships are real, and the cult literally channels their power through rituals, occult objects, and in the end, physical manifestation, to pull off crazy shit. The events of SH1 are the result of a long term plan, but it is ultimately psychic warfare between Dahlia and Alessa, with things such as the Flauros and the unborn Samael fetus amplifying all of the crazy shit.

Walter is has a pretty high degree of psychic power as well. The whole point of Wish House was that the cult used it to find psychically gifted children, and Walter was one of them. So his powers combined with the inherent power of the 21 Sacraments ritual is responsible for the crazy shit that happens in SH4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:57:00 No.129932573 Report

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>>129932434
SH4 actually is rather interesting and has a great atmosphere.
I've only later started to realize its good points, now after seeing how people REALLY have raped the series.

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Anonymous Prime !!52Q3LB1fqFv Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:57:00 No.129932602 Report

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>>129932413
That's the beauty of Silent Hill, everyone's theory can be right.
The inner-demons thing is just one of them.
Some people say that the only reason that some characters see the monsters and the horror induced town is because of a drug in the air. And they're right too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 21:57:00 No.129932612 Report

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>>129932381
SH4 sort of had that. The Arcade game does. The GBA game offers a Cybil scenario.

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Quoted By: >>129933027 >>129933115

>>129932381
An adventure game ala SM with that would be pretty neat.

>>129932413
Yes, that is one interpretation.

>>129932513
The question is where does this power come from? Some say it's a divine source (God), others say it's the lake, some merely say Alessa, some say White Claudia...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:00:00 No.129932841 Report

Quoted By: >>129932951 >>129933115 >>129933485

>>129932413
No. The town of Silent Hill is a popular tourist town with nothing inherently evil about it. Everything that happens is the direct result of The Order, the demon-worshipping cult based in Silent Hill (among other places). They use a combination of psychic power and drugs to influence people into furthering their own goals. People who "enter its dark side" are only getting tied in with the cult's bullshit in some form or another. Going to Silent Hill doesn't doom or curse you unless you get involved with the cult somehow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:00:00 No.129932864 Report

Quoted By: >>129933198 >>129933485

>>129932513

>The whole point of Wish House was that the cult used it to find psychically gifted children, and Walter was one of them

whoa whoa whoa what, when is THAT ever stated or even implied

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:01:00 No.129932951 Report

Quoted By:

>>129932841

How does that apply to SH2

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:01:00 No.129932961 Report

Quoted By: >>129933485 >>129933519

>>129931862

The town has always been a place of psychic energy and channeling. The Native Americans used it for their rituals; not necessarily evil ones. It wasn't until Alessa's powers went out of wack was the town's own power corrupted into something dark and sinister.

>>129932513

Actual, the Flauros does nothing. It only does anything because Dhalia made Alessa think it does something. And Dhalia doesn't have pyschic powers I believe, only some mystic remedies to keep Alessa alive after the fire

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:02:00 No.129933027 Report

Quoted By: >>129933485

>>129932674
What are you talking about? The power doesn't come from anywhere, the members of the cult have inherent psychic power to various degrees. They derive further power from occult objects and rituals, none of which are particularly specific to Silent Hill itself. White Claudia is how they extend and maintain their influence, not only to draw in more cult members but mostly to keep them from leaving.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:03:00 No.129933115 Report

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>>129932841

How was James involved with the cult in SH2?

>>129932674
In my opinion? There is no source. Silent Hills is just Silent Hill: no explanation required. The land was endowed with latent psychic energies for whatever reason and that's all that matters

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:04:00 No.129933198 Report

Quoted By: >>129934361

>>129932864
http://silenthill.wikia.com/wiki/Wish_House_Orphanage

It's pretty clearly explained in 4 since, you know, you actually go there.

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BMAlex !!+zLr81Zj/ci Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:08:00 No.129933485 Report

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>>129932841
>People who "enter its dark side" are only getting tied in with the cult's bullshit in some form or another.

What of James then?

>>129932864
I'm not sure that's actually right. The prison was just that, a prison for brainwashing kids. Walter however WAS handpicked by Dahlia and she made him obsessed about the ritual.

>>129932961
The Flauros is a container of energy, it's all about how you use that energy.

>>129933027
Oh, the cult had psychics, namely Alessa and Claudia. But I see them as "amplifiers" and users, not the innate holders of whatever energy is present in SH. IMO the cult is merely a warped extension of the people who realised Toluca Lake has this energy well that can be used for various purposes. White Claudia and its properties are this energy manifested, and enable an ordinary (not attuned) human to reach into the Otherworld by force. The cult rituals and beliefs feed this well and maintain its powers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:08:00 No.129933512 Report

Quoted By: >>129933857 >>129934117

>>129932513
But where is there mention being made of ANYONE besides Alessa having psychic powers?

You could argue that Claudia might have had some sort of supernatural ability, given how she was able to "order" the monsters to carry out specific tasks such as assassinating Harry. But even then, I wouldn't be surprised if she was more of a pawn being given the illusion of control by the forces of her God.

Basically, I don't see why you need to doubt the existence of The Order's god, especially if you already believe that there are supernatural forces behind everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:08:00 No.129933519 Report

Quoted By: >>129933964

>>129932961
What? No, the Flauros most definitely does contain some serious power. Its entire purpose in the story is as a way for Dahlia to try to control Alessa. Did you not see the part in SH1 where it fucking floats out of Harry's pocket and lasers the christ out of Alessa? That's not "nothing"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:12:00 No.129933805 Report

Quoted By:

..archive?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:13:00 No.129933857 Report

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>>129933512
I'm not doubting the Order's gods at all, in fact my entire post which you apparently didn't read said that you have to accept this as fact to explain the cult's doings.

What I cast doubt on is how those gods are intrinsically tied to Silent Hill, or somehow act independently and autonomously influence everyone who ever enters Silent Hill just because. A lot of SH2 fans immediately dismiss the idea that the cult has anything to do with James or anyone else there, and that it's all just "the gods" of Silent Hill making the story happen, simply because James mentions it in the Resurrection ending, completely ignoring the fact that he also happens to have gone batshit insane in this ending.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:13:00 No.129933897 Report

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Could we archive this? A sweet SH thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:14:00 No.129933964 Report

Quoted By: >>129934357 >>129934510

>>129933519

As I said before with Alessa, yes, it does affect her, but only because she thinks that it should affect her. Just like the falseness of the "God", so too is there a fakeness of the Flauros.

There is indeed a Flauros of some powerful energy in the world (according to SH:O, anyways), but I sincerely doubt an antiques owner in a small town like Silent Hill could get her hands on a mysterious object like that after its been missing for hundreds of years

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:16:00 No.129934117 Report

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>>129933512
Walter is a concrete example, and Dahlia definitely does since she's able to directly manipulate Harry with hallucinations of Cheryl to keep him going (it's not Alessa doing that, because she doesn't want Harry to find her). Cheryl presumably has a little, Claudia clearly does. All of the info in SH4 regarding the Wish House states this.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:19:00 No.129934357 Report

Quoted By: >>129934986 >>129935340

>>129933964
I'd like to know where you're coming up with this idea that the power of the Flauros is a placebo, that Dahlia somehow "convinced" Alessa that it would disrupt her powers, or that Alessa even knew anything about the Flauros at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:19:00 No.129934361 Report

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>>129933198

Yes, but I'm almost 100% certain nothing in SH4 mentions that Wish House is specifically used to find psychically-gifted kids. There's that whole bit about Stone 'letting in' Valtiel into Walter to somehow facilitate the 21 Sacraments (according to the background book), but nothing about psychic kids. I don't think it's ever stated that Walter is inherently special in some way. He only manages to become a ghost because he'd followed all the prerequisites of the ritual beforehand.

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BMAlex !!+zLr81Zj/ci Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:19:00 No.129934369 Report

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>>129934117
>Dahlia definitely does since she's able to directly manipulate Harry with hallucinations of Cheryl to keep him going

So you think Dahlia plants Cheryl here and there intentionally? It always seemed Cheryl just borrows Alessa's powers for a bit to tell Harry she's still out there.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:20:00 No.129934438 Report

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I don't really know if it's archive worthy, though..

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:21:00 No.129934510 Report

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>>129933964
>I sincerely doubt an antiques owner in a small town like Silent Hill could get her hands on a mysterious object like that after its been missing for hundreds of years

It's a cult dedicated to summoning a powerful ancient god into the material world, they clearly have power and influence, are spread out in more areas than just Silent Hill, and they have access to plenty of other artifacts and rituals, I don't see why you'd dismiss Dahlia being able to obtain it.

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Tomoko !Kuroki/GZo Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:23:00 No.129934645 Report

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>>129932381
This idea kind of reminds me of the game "Martian Gothic" it used to scare the poopie out of me when I was a babby of young age. You controlled like 3(?) different protagonists stuck on a space station and for almost the entire game you're locked away from each other. Eventually you can meet one another but there's a virus that will kill you if you're in the same room so it makes it really intense, I haven't played it in ages but I remember really really liking it as a kid.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:25:00 No.129934792 Report

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Protip: Silent Hill is never laid down in concrete terms by the original devs, who have said on several occasions that they intentionally did so. They left hints that the Town was cursed, that everyone was just tripping balls on White Claudia, that Samael is a real thing, and a few other game specific things. All of these are as true as any of the others, and thats the the fun of Silent Hill, you get to choose whichever one you like most.

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BMAlex !!+zLr81Zj/ci Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:27:00 No.129934986 Report

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>>129934357
If you're going by SH1 only, recall the flashback scene in Nowhere before the final boss. "Herein lies the mother's womb, containing the power to create life - I could have done it all myself" - it can be argued Dahlia uses the Flauros to essentially impregnate Alessa instead of waiting for Alessa to go super saiyan. It's a stretch, but it's there.

0rigins confirms this and also that Alessa uses the Flauros again with Travis' help to separate herself into two entities, but since 0rigins has a bad rep, nobody wants to even take it into consideration.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:28:00 No.129934995 Report

Quoted By: >>129935384

>>129934369
Yes, that's exactly what is going on. Harry's purpose was to bring Cheryl to Silent Hill; beyond that, Dahlia decides to use his drive as a loving father to get him close to Alessa. Dahlia herself can't directly deal with Alessa's power, so she uses Harry to deliver the Flauros, and the hallucinations of Cheryl are one way she keeps him going. Notice how she always seems to be in trouble/suffering?

Cheryl has already been recombined with Alessa at that point, her memories of Harry what cause Alessa to occasionally appear in front of him, and ultimately to allow him close enough with the Flauros at the amusement park, but Cheryl herself is not trying to get Harry to find her. Alessa wouldn't be sending demons after Harry to try and stop him if that were the case.

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Anonymous Prime !!52Q3LB1fqFv Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:28:00 No.129935015 Report

Quoted By: >>129935291

>>129934645
Oh my god, I completely for got about that game.
Oh shit, I need a download now.

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Tomoko !Kuroki/GZo Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:32:00 No.129935291 Report

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>>129935015
yeah that post reminded me of it, probably going to download it again and give it another run through for old times sake. Truth be told I would only ever watch my uncle play it through because I was way too scared of the monsters and stuff. so I never actually saw 90% of the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:32:00 No.129935340 Report

Quoted By: >>129936731

>>129934357
Alessa clearly directs Travis to get the Flauros in SH:O, so she knows about its powers

In addition, the idea of the Flauros just doesn't add up.
In the series, the Flauros's only concrete purpose seems to revolve around messing up the order's plans by locking away her powers.
Why in the hell would the order keep that anywhere near Silent Hill?
Secondly, where the hell did they get it? The only mentioning of it are some old chinese philosopher and an enlightenment age priest. And yet this small ass cult in this small town were able to acquire it?

Seems more likely another manifestation of the town thanks to the craaazy powers within it.

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BMAlex !!+zLr81Zj/ci Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:33:00 No.129935384 Report

Quoted By: >>129935836

>>129934995
Yep, sounds about right. I just like to think Cheryl is still "there" for her daddy.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:39:00 No.129935836 Report

Quoted By: >>129936197

>>129935384
..Christ, the beginning of that game scared the shit out of me.

I LOVE MY DADDY.
I LOVE MY DADDY.
I LOVE MY DADDY.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:41:00 No.129935992 Report

Quoted By: >>129936197

>>129934986
The "I could have done it all myself" line was when Dahlia realized that she could just burn the house down to fulfill her plan. Her original plan was to raise Alessa to adulthood and indoctrinate her as a priestess to formally give birth to God, but it became clear that Alessa wasn't buying into the fanatical bullshit and wouldn't go along with the plan (Claudia is an example of what Dahlia wanted Alessa to be).

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BMAlex !!+zLr81Zj/ci Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:44:00 No.129936197 Report

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>>129935992
Yes, exactly. I'm just saying it's possible that the Flauros was used in the burning ritual itself, that's all. Just a stretch.

>>129935836
>mfw forest
that sleeping bag and text message, you know the one

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:46:00 No.129936371 Report

Quoted By: >>129936538

>>129936197
Dat picture of the dead girl that looks like.. Heather?

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BMAlex !!+zLr81Zj/ci Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:48:00 No.129936538 Report

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>>129936371
The implication Cheryl got raped and beaten and left to freeze almost to death in the woods after a shitty cabin party, yes. Although, it changes depending on your input, so you might have gotten a different one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:51:00 No.129936731 Report

Quoted By: >>129937071 >>129937204

>>129936197
If the Flauros had any relevance to the ritual, it would have appeared in SH3.

>>129935340
You don't think a cult would be able to get their hands on occult artifacts? I find it harder to believe that they're able to get their hands on a rare magical liquid which old gods are allergic to. As for the Flauros not inherently containing any power and just being an Alessa placebo, here's Harry's dialogue from the GBA game when he picks up the Flauros:

"It is power.
The overwhelming power of the gods rests inside this four-sided object.
It was a sensation like an electrical current passing into the palm of my hand, and then power moving throughout every nook and cranny in my body."

Even a guy who has no reason to believe in anything supernatural and approaches all of the crazy shit in the game with disbelief until the very end immediately recognizes the sheer power of the Flauros just from picking it up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:51:00 No.129936765 Report

Quoted By: >>129937204 >>129937427

>>129936538
That was actually exactly what I was thinking.
Paradox?

What about the one, also in the forest, that had a text saying something about her brother (?) being dead, and that she was "going to join him" soon. It's been so long since I played it.

Which reminds me, I need to play it for the 34224021th time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:55:00 No.129937018 Report

Quoted By: >>129937204

>>129936538
I thought that was some other girl, and Cheryl just witnessed it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:56:00 No.129937071 Report

Quoted By: >>129937204

>>129936731

Well, for one, Harry experiences the world through the eyes of Alessa, hence why everything is catered to her subconscious. It's logical it would appear powerful to him as well.

Also

>GBA game
>anything remotely near canon

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:56:00 No.129937107 Report

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Outtakes ending was canon, SH is just a movie.

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BMAlex !!+zLr81Zj/ci Fri 17 Feb 2012 22:57:00 No.129937204 Report

Quoted By: >>129937704 >>129937748

>>129936731
>If the Flauros had any relevance to the ritual, it would have appeared in SH3.

Would it? It's all about hatred fueling the fetus in SH3, not actually summoning it. But yeah, now that you mention it, Flauros is strangely absent in 3, with only Metatron present.

>>129936765
That wasn't about her specifically, as in, it wasn't a memory from her life, but it was probably a scenario she played out in her head, contemplating suicide. Like the choking game in the school.

Also, "I like your pigtails."

>>129937018
Maybe yes, maybe no.

>>129937071
>implying SH has a strict defined canon

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 23:00:00 No.129937427 Report

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>>129936765
I'm pretty sure that message is from the same kid whose phone call you hear if you snap the ghastly projection in the Pumping Station.

Im rather sure it's not Heather's message, but from the boy.
Also She didn't die in the woods, got all drunk or bad trip depending on your input though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 23:00:00 No.129937434 Report

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People actually saying Shattered Memories. Fucking loved that game so hard, and actually had great controls on the Wii which sadly didn't get used in anything else.

I swear SH threads are some of the best, most enjoyable threads on /v/. I love you guys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 23:03:00 No.129937629 Report

Quoted By: >>129938006

I don't care what anyone says, I played Silent Hill three years after it came out and only got a few scares, Silent Hill 2 was better, but still not that scary, Silent Hill 3 was a joke.

But Silent Hill 4? FUCK THAT GAME. I have nightmares over it, its so fucking good, I wish I could just forget my experience with it and play it all over again from the beginning, god damn.

Silent Hill needs more of those games, there's no need to go for a consistent mythology or whatever the fuck, make a new weird concept, run with it, Silent Hill 4 had a better concept AND better gameplay than any other Silent Hill game, why would you go back to generic Silent Hill lore after that?

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 23:04:00 No.129937704 Report

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>>129937204
MASSIVE SPOILERS BELOW, DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED SHATTERED MEMORIES

Oh yeah.. I keep forgetting that it's Cheryl at the Therapist, creating this fantasy world.. and that Harry's dead. Poor Harry. I really liked him.

"S-Sorry, it's just that.. you look a lot like my daughter.. just.. go ahead and put the wig back on.."

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 23:04:00 No.129937748 Report

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>>129937204

If it were canon it would have been mentioned in the Lost Memories book

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 23:06:00 No.129937903 Report

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>>129919462

4 moar.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 23:07:00 No.129938006 Report

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>>129937629
>Silent Hill 4 had a better concept AND better gameplay than any other Silent Hill game
Youre kinda alone with that opinion. The gameplay IS the biggest reason why people disliked the game; the limited inventory and the need of running back & forth because of that, and recycling the maps for the last half.

It sure had a great atmosphere and idea, I give you that.
But something must be wrong if SH3 really did nothing to you. Then again IF one has not played SH1, the third game will feel very confusing, as it is a direct sequel.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 23:13:00 No.129938450 Report

Quoted By: >>129938650 >>129939202

Now I never played SH2 but my friend says that James was an asshole that should've died. Is she right in saying this?

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 23:13:00 No.129938456 Report

Quoted By: >>129938575 >>129938650 >>129938925

Can anyone recommend a ps1 emulator to play SH1?

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Tomoko !Kuroki/GZo Fri 17 Feb 2012 23:14:00 No.129938575 Report

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>>129938456
EPSXE if you aren't an idiot.

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BMAlex !!+zLr81Zj/ci Fri 17 Feb 2012 23:15:00 No.129938650 Report

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>>129938450
She has the right to feel that way, James isn't a saint.

>>129938456
ePSXe. Is there anything else?

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 23:18:00 No.129938874 Report

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Lisa's death (SH1) was probably the heaviest scene in any Silent Hill.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 23:19:00 No.129938925 Report

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>>129938456
ePSXe is pretty much the only valid one.
Use Pete's OpenGL graphics plugin with these settings for optimal and authentic visuals. 2.0 version has slightly different settings, but you can replicate these just fine.

Also dont forget to force CPU Async for the audio!

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 23:23:00 No.129939202 Report

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>>129938450
That really depends on the player and what ending he/she got.

I don't really agree with her opinion, but I'd suggest you play the game yourself ASAP.

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!!Frxw+AsGwv1 Fri 17 Feb 2012 23:23:00 No.129939252 Report

Quoted By: >>129939478

>>129938575
while I've always preferred ePSXe myself, I hear rumour about pSX having higher compatibility. Is this true?

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 23:26:00 No.129939478 Report

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>>129939252
I dont know a single person who would use anything else than ePSXe. And so far it has played every game Ive tried with it just fine. As always, you gonna have to play around with the plugins to get the best results, but SH1 isn't the most difficult titles for sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 23:27:00 No.129939530 Report

Quoted By: >>129940219 >>129940382

ARCHIVE NAO WE ONLY NEED 2 MOAR

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 23:36:00 No.129940219 Report

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>>129939530

I voted

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 23:38:00 No.129940382 Report

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>>129939530

lik dis if u cry evertim

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 23:38:00 No.129940446 Report

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>>129940219
Thank you! ..Who'll be the faggot that makes this an archive?

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 23:40:00 No.129940595 Report

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>>129940382
wheres duh liek button :(

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 23:41:00 No.129940625 Report

Quoted By: >>129940795

Shattered Memories

>what if SH1 bad ending was the real ending?

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 23:43:00 No.129940795 Report

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>>129940625
What if.. The Game.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 23:44:00 No.129940919 Report

Quoted By: >>129941423

>Be a massive SH fan
>Go on /v/
>See this
>400+ posts in
>mfw

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 23:48:00 No.129941204 Report

Quoted By: >>129941423

We should show this thread to the makers of Silent Hill..

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 23:50:00 No.129941423 Report

Quoted By: >>129941928

>>129940446
>>129940919
>>129941204
first time on /v/, eh?

SH threads get always tons of replies and somewhat decent discussion and those threads are up almost daily.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Feb 2012 23:56:00 No.129941928 Report

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OP here.

Did this shit seriously just get archived?
I fucking love you guys sometimes. Thank you.

>>129941423
I've been in threads like this, but not SH-related threads.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Feb 2012 00:04:00 No.129942579 Report

Quoted By: >>129942763

>people thinking this thread is amazing

we have sh threads on /v/ pretty often, and while they might be good considering it's /v/, i still see the same SH2circle jerking/theory bullshit arguing that pretty much shits up all SH forums these days

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Anonymous Sat 18 Feb 2012 00:07:00 No.129942763 Report

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>>129942579

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Anonymous Sat 18 Feb 2012 00:09:00 No.129942947 Report

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anyone getting the hd remakes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Feb 2012 00:14:00 No.129943343 Report

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>>129919873
>Number 4, Silent Hill: The Room, was not actually supposed to have been a Silent Hill game.

stop spreading that shitty false rumor.
the ENGINE was developed for a game that was scrapped, but the story, characters, and everything else for SH4 was indeed 100% original and made specifically for SH4.

Engine has little bearing on the quality of a game's story.

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