Kids are Asleep. Metroid Series thread.
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Metroid Prime is awesome Metroid Prime Sucks Other M Troll Fusion sucked No It didn't Yes it did Super was the best No its wasn't TUUUUUUUUBES Porn. There. I just saved you five hundred posts.
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Whats Retro working on now?
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>>134412769 you forgot Super Metroid ROM hacks, Metroid LUA, and AM2R
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Super WAS the best. Or maybe the original if we're counting nostalgia points. But then, Super gets beaucoup nostalgia points too. It was the first game I bought with my own money as a little kid. It was $75. I took it home, turned off the lights and sat in awe of the opening sequence and everything that was to follow. It singlehandedly confirmed me for lifelong game addict, though such a momentous experience has never followed on.
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Super was the best 2D. Prime 1 was the best 3D.
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I've been on a bit of an Alien kick lately and I just want to see a game where Samus destroys creatures that look and operate suspiciously like xenomorphs.
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>>134413102 As a Segafriend I missed out on Super Metriod back in the day, but after playing it alongside Fusion and Zero Mission I have to say it's probably my 2nd favorite 2D Metroid after Fusion. But only because of the SA-X, the only thing that ever made me shit bricks in a 2D game.
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>>134413630 get fucked, etc.
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Metroid Prime told more of a story through atmosphere, Scenery and music than Other M did through two hours of Cutscenes.
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>>134413630 I didn't ask for this.
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>>134412650 >Genddy Tartakovsky makes a metroid mini series Wow, can you imagine that? like the clone wars but with Samus, space pirates, metroids and Galactic Federation troops
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>mfw Fusion is the best game in the series
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>>134412650 Other M is a masterpiece you're just not a true fan, Prime is fanfiction by Retro Studios
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Does anyone still make Space pirate OC?
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Primes was nothing but Babby's First Metroid and FPS it's shit, purile shit. Go play real FPS like UT, Quake, Doom, Wolfenstein, Counter Strike, Team Fortress 1.
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How about a Metroid comic series by Mike Mignola?
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>>134413908 WHY WON'T THIS SCREEN TAKE MY WALLET FULL OF CREDIT CARDS AND DOSH
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Halo general? Why!? There's nothing to talk about Halo 4 right now until E3.
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my metroid is just called metroid
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>>134413651 Fusion is great too, I agree. There's something to the atmosphere in the 2D games, beautiful loneliness, this intense and gloriously strange sci-fi feeling(helped greatly by the awesome music), and the epic level of the bosses.
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where the fuck is super metroid on the eshop
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My oracle told me that nintendo will announce a new metroid on this E3. Is it made by retro? Only time will tell.
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>>134414053 Sakamoto has to write the comic though, guy did some really good work on the manga.
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Just beat Super Metroid for the very first time a few hours ago. It's the first Metroid game I've her completed. What game should I play next? Also, the alternate ending is the animals escaping, right? How did thy escape?
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>>134413908 entire episodes where she doesn't say a single thing but explores amazing scenery with nothing but natural sounds and shit.....a man can dream
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>>134414109 My Metroid has a superior yellow label
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PED Suit was the best suit.
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>>134414053 I'm down with that. Just, put her damn helmet back on. And don't make her too girly like fucking Other M.
Fuck Other M. I'm retconning it out of the pantheon, not going to ask permission. I've never even heard of it now. I have no idea why I typed something about this "Other M?" It must have been important at the time, but now that it doesn't exist I can move on.
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Can't wait for the Sequel to Fusion, we all know what to expect from Sakamoto now! The guy knows how to do character progression! Such a shame Primes is not canon, oh well, whatever it takes for a good story I say.
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My metroid is not an FPS for faggots
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>>134414285 Yes. Wait, get Peter Chung to do it (Aeon Flux cartoon).
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>>134414393 Ugh hate the Primes design, so muddy, so WH40K, retro should have just named it WH40Samus.
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>>134414249 they escaped by an escape pod in the room with the bombs.
play fusion, or if you're up for a challenge play super metroid: impossible.
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>>134414295 is that PAL or something?
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>>134414483 I think it's a later-released US copy.
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>>134414483 No, just a later version that was made after RoS came out.
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>>134414553 >Implying Battlefront wasn't an FPS Console children and their shitty games sicken me, Metroid deserves better treatment than this retarded purile shit.
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>>134414470 I'm sorry what?
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>>134414492 >Crapcom GTFO vir
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>>134414470 They're are a lot of aspects that I like out of art in the 2D games, but Retro's space pirates are just better
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>>134414470 >WH40Samus You do realize /tg/ considers her an honorary primarch, right?
Anyway, Retro is hard at work on something, I wouldn't mind a glorious Prime game on the Wii-U, as that's pretty much the only single thing Nintendo has to release in order to secure my purchase.
I just want to collect beams and shoot monsters to kickass music. And kill Ridley again, because fighting that asshole never gets old.
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>>134414707 Calm down anon, I just like the Skrull.
No need for mad.
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>>134414794 Look the console child is mad he played the inferior Battlefront on the inferior perspective none the less!
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>>134414814 >You do realize /tg/ considers her an honorary primarch, right Really?
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>>134414814 They should work on their art direction then it looks like shit. At least they know a thing or two about level design though.
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>>134414210 Hahahahha, Samus was always a pussy, what a fucking blast!
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>>134413968 >implying I'm proud of it I'm not Anonymous
Retro has better art direction and design than Sakamoto's team.
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Fusion teased the Metroid lifecycle and never went anywhere with it except for the two boss fights. I'd live to see another Metroid extermination mission, but it probably isn't diverse enough gameplay to get the game made.
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>>134415049 She gets better, Chozo magic helps her out. Of course Chozo magic didn't heal her entirely and after all the traumatic events she has gone through she lost it in Other M.
Metroid truly is an amazing journey of seeing a young woman mature. Primes kills that though by making Samus a man with breasts.
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>>134415135 0/10
Go back to worshiping your 40k Tyranids and their ripoff the Zerg.
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>>134415163 Everyone, ignore the troll saying the prime games are horrible. He just wants to start a fight and ruin the thread.
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>>134414972 I can say with a completely straight face that Retro studios understands art direction, and because of this the Prime games contain some of the most beautiful environments and fascinating creature design of any other games.
The technical limitations of the wii/gamecube never stopped their games from looking as good as can be.
In fact, I'd probably say God of War 3 and Corruption are my top 2 games this gen as far as presentation goes.
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>>134415163 To think they gave Samus a butch's face in Prime 1 how disgusting, and then in another of the Prime games they made her look like a blow up doll. Can Retro even into art? The blow up Samus reminded me of this.
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>>134415163 only the dead can know peace from this evil
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>>134415225 I'm sorry, but that's just objectively true.
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Other M 2: Samus is just a pair of ovaries attached to Legs Edition.
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>>134415341 Corruption is the most underrated game this gen.
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>>134415317 Stop vira
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Some of my favorite areas in the Metroid series have been the underwater sections, like Maridia or Prime's sunken Frigate. I would like to see a larger, more open underwater area in a future 3D Metroid game though. As beautiful as it was seeing the pirates' ship from the beginning of the game flooded and teeming with aquatic life, I'd like to see an underwater section with a large, open hub to explore that would still lead into more isolated, claustrophobic caverns the series is known for.
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>>134415408 >Hey guys what's going on in-- AHHHHH Anonymous
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Fusion and Super are the best. Prime is ok but boring. Other M was funny and had some neat moments. The rest are whatever.
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>>134414130 It's that. Metroid Prime has wide open cavernous spaces with haunting music and amazing ambient effects.
Travelling through that place was the first time in a video game I felt like I was actually alone. Which is a strange feeling. In my mind this game is what I always imagined Metroid to look like had Nintendo had the technology to deliver it. A beautiful, haunting lonely trek through a long forgotten world.
Sometimes you get the sense that the creators of that place are right around the corner, waiting to congratulate you for solving that tricky puzzle. But they have been dead for thousands of years, and when you realize that it makes you sad.
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>>134415479 Other M is far from shit, it's a pretty good game with a fanbase who doesn't know how to appreciate the lore. It's funny though the Halo fanbase knows more about their lore than the Metroid fanbase.
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I want puzzles involving the morph ball. Prime 2 was so good because of this.
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>>134415612 Well Halo bombardes everyone with novels, and cartoons and shit while Metroid has like one manga and non cannon comics
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>>134415341 >God of War You have shit taste in games, to think I thought I respected you as a Primes bro
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>>134415583 that's why Prime 2 felt like a step in the wrong direction.
As well as Prime 3.
Metroid has always done the You vs The Planet thing well
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>>134415612 Other M is far from not shit
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>>134415706 Well shit and shit do go hand in hand together. Prime's art direction is highly monochrome just like God of War's.
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>>134414972 >Prime art direction >looks like shit Anonymous
>>134415778 Nice compelling argument there
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>>134415583 >the creators of that place are right around the corner, waiting to congratulate you for solving that tricky puzzle. But they have been dead for thousands of years, and when you realize that their ghosts lock the doors and try to fucking kill you. Yeah, I fixed that shit for you.
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>>134415827 FUCK THOSE GUYS!
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>>134415612 > it's a pretty good game If you like Other M, you are STUPID. Yes, I know that's insulting, but it's also true.
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>>134415612 But, many metroid fans don't like Other M because of reasons that have been repeated over and over again. How can you say it is a good game when it has received so much hate?
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You will forever hear Slowbeef's Ridley voice in your head.
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>>134415886 BEHOLD! A Prime's fanboy in his natural habitat! Look at his hubris and use of ad hominem!
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>>134415917 Then my jimmies will forever remain unrustled.
STILL FALLIN
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>>134415961 Dammit! You must've had a box on the table.
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>>134415884 Why is "NIGGERS" so appropriate in the second panel?
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>>134415998 HOW YA DOIN SAMUS
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Other M's art direction is superior to Prime, however the music to Prime is unmatched. Only Vorash's theme can come anywhere near to Prime.
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>liking Other M
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>>134415985 Why Nintendo? You gave Zelda a good anniversary ;_;
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fuck you all this thread has turned out just like any other
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>yfw it looks like you should shoot it with missiles
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>>134415823 >OTHER M IS GRATE CUZ I SAID >NUH UH >WOW NICE ARGUMENT Fuck off.
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>>134415706 Keep in mind I said presentation. The game used scale, space, and color expertly (the entire zeus fight/ending stands out in particular) GOW3 had a whole lot of fucking style behind the gallons of blood and "HURR DURR KRATOS MAD!" dialogue. A lot of work went into designing the world and it shows.
However I can still respect you if you disagree.
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>>134415827 The Chozo ghost was a wonderful concept. As psychic creatures being corrupted, instead of "ascend" like the rest of their brethen, their madness just make them travel across worlds without knowing what they are doing.
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>>134416092 Looks like the kids are not asleep after all.
I'm out of this thread until a serious metroid thread is posted
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If anything I feel Other M is a step in the right direction, it has the speed and action I loved of the first Metroid games.
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Can we have a decent Metroid thread? For once.
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>>134415359 Nintendo made them change her after prime cause she wasn't kawaii enough or some dumb fucking bullshit to appease weeaboos and weird japs.
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>>134416092 Oh christ you've missed twice in a row now.
Here I'll explain it.
I quoted Navgtr and used Other M instead of Donkey Kong.
Also that's not a paint comic you dense idiot, it's from those hilarious Korean comics.
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>click on metroid thread >no porn posted What the fuck?
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>>134416179 >strawman >strawman >strawman >incoherent rage and ad hominems Nice compelling argument
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>>134414553 >Playing as Space Pirates > THE HUNTER HAS ENTERED THE BATTLEFIELD Oh god oh god oh god
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>>134415985 I swear I am going to edit that fucking picture to where there is a crowd of fans holding link up in the air cheering.
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>>134415706 This picture is bullshit. NG has plenty of XXXY YYYYX combos. just like GOW DMC is by far the hardest to actually do combos since you manually have to string seperate moves together to create a real one.
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>>134416078 Protip: Nintendo only celebrates the anniversaries of the big 3 (Super Mario, The Legend of Zelda and Pokémon)
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>>134416262 >still can't come up with an argument >use words you don't know the meaning of >>>/highschooldebate/ Anonymous
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>>134416221 just shut up already
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>>134416343 But Metroid was big.
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>>134416249 People are too busy calling each other idiots and faggots for having differing tastes in vidya.
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>>134416207 Lets
>>134416468 You misspelled Weavel
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>>134416474 Yes, concede defeat you stupid child.
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>>134416341 You have never played Ninja Gaiden, plenty of combos require you to hold the buttons, then jump, then xxyyyx, hold x.
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>DMC >Hard You're squidding me right? That shit is easy even on Dante Must Die mode
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>there will never be another Hunters game
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>>134416498 It isn't, the popularity of Metroid doesn't even compare to the popularity of Nintendo's other franchises.
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This thread needs more Gfeds.
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>>134416573 Why should I if your arguments are so "riveting" they move me to tears?
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>looking through thread >back and forth about Other M >only thing said about Other M was 'far from shit' and 'pretty good' Is that all it takes to devolve the thread into shit? Come on this is sad he didn't even try
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>>134416605 Was that game any good?
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>>134416632 Stop vira
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>>134416752 It was, alright. They tried to do too much with too little.
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i never played metroid
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>>134416752 Yeah, it was one of the greatest handheld multiplayer experiences that I ever had the pleasure of playing. Shit was intense.
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>>134416752 It's another shitty FPS, if you like FPS you'll like hunters its Samus is pretty hot though.
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>>134416752 Shit FPS that FPS drones love and eat
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>>134416752 It had the best Samus.
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>>134416901 >>134416945 Oh, gee, I wonder if these two are the same person?
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>>134416917 >Gameoverthinker Yeah no
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>>134416917 You vira
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We need canidates for Metroid Prime Hunters 2: Anthony Higgs A Darkling Luminoth Some kind of aquatic hunter, like a shark humanoid or something A steampunk esque robot
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>>134416708 Oops, you're dead
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>>134417007 >>134416994 >>134417015 Oh gee, I wonder which one is the same samefag?
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>>134416819 >>134416868 Hm okay then.
Was curious for a while about that game/
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>>134417175 IT'S THAT TIME AGAIN.
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>>134417109 It's impossible to post three times in a row.
This is the best Samus btw.
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guys, which Metroid games are best? i would like to play
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>>134417192 >/ *.
Goddammit.
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>>134417274 Prime 1 for 3D
Super for 2D.
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>>134417274 Other M
Metroid
Metroid 2
Zero Mission
Fusion
FPS Fanboy list
Metroid Primes
The Rehash of Primes
Primes got less shit
2d = shit we don't play those
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>>134417192 It had a pretty good engine but didn't look the best because of hardware limitations. The multiplayer was also plagued by Nintendo quality online interaction, and the single player campaign was way to short and copy pasted bosses.
Overall it's a great handheld game but falls far short of its namesake. Great ideas, less than stellar execution.
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>>134414553 I'm mashing my wallet against the screen but nothing is happening.
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>>134417274 Super and Prime.
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>>134417234 >you can't post three times in a row Oh fuck, since when? How do dumps happen?
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>>134417274 All the 2d and Other M, Primes and hunters is optional since they're not canon.
Make sure to read the manga it might still be up on /rs/.
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Sylux needs to be in Smash Bros.
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>>134416994 mfw that scene is what motivated me to beat that game
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>>134417493 >Primes and hunters is optional since they're not canon. Yes they are, all Sakamoto said was that they were part of a different arc. Plus he doesn't even get to decide anyway.
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>>134417464 Bots and 2 posts per minute max
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>>134417274 The 3D ones, 2D are overrated, nothing but Castlevania clones.
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>>134417636 Will you quit fucking up this thread? Everyone knows you're posting every single one of these inflammatory shit bombs.
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>>134417547 He never said arc, he said they were nothing but side stories, side stories are rarely ever canon.
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>>134417348 >>134417371 >>134417435 >>134417493 ok, i start with NES Metroid, which i have on my HD with all NES games
thanks
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>>134416285 Quick, deploy them all!
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TUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUBES.
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>>134417780 Nonono don't. The first one is really terrible.
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The only metroid game I've ever played through was prime. Just bought fusion. First metroid 2d game, hope it's good. I'll play supa metroid if I like it next.
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>>134417464 Spire's story is kinda really depressing.
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>>134417780 no just play Zero Mission first instead
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>>134417843 Shit taste detected
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>>134417748 He didn't say there were non canon. Deal with it fag. Not that he has the power to say, the Prime games were the best except super.
>Other M is supposedly supposed to unravel Samus's past >Ends up just being a wank-fest over Adam >Main character has no faults at all >Good writing >Scene where Samus getting raped by Ridley >Adam looks over his shoulder >Gunshot (The Deleter is still on the loose) >Nothing comes of this >Taking out the metroid exterminator in the presence of a loose metroid just because
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Metroid fanbase is officially as autistic and shit as the SANIC fanbase.
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>>134417748 Actually the Prime Series explains a lot of holes that were in the series itself. Plus it was fun.
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>>134417748 When you have three commercially and VERY critically well-received games that revives a series back from the the dead, it's fucking canon, if not a canon all unto its own.
And he said he just likes to think of it as a different episode in samus's life, bug off.
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>>134417907 The music and controls were shit and it couldn't even save your progress. Pretty fucking bad.
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>>134418030 >couldn't even save your progress Sorry you were so casual then
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>>134417984 Plus Adam sacrificed himself to blow up the metroids even though they both just saw a metroid outside of Sector 0 and knew there'd be more.
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>>134417748 >listening to Sakamoto after he made a mediocre game with a horrid plot that ruined one of the only good, non-hyper-sexualized female characters in vidya Other M made Samus into an impotent, idiotic, weak abused sex object. No wonder /v/ likes it.
>always do the opposite of what /v/ says Prime 1 is good, prime 2 is okay, prime 3 is good, fusion is good but pretty difficult, I haven't played super but it's generally regarded as amazing, stay away from other m unless you're a misogynistic neckbear who doesn't like fun
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Am I some sort of bizarre creature for liking both the 2d games (Super Metroid, Fusion, Zero Mission) and the Prime trilogy? It seems /v/ thinks there's some fucked up requirement to hate one if you like the other. The 2d games are excellent (for the most part) The Prime games are excellent (for the most part) Other M sucks (completely) Grow the fuck up guys.
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>>134418086 plus wasn't there a pass code something
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>>134417748 It doesn't matter, the 2D universe sucks dicks anyhow, I just want more immersive FPS to play.
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>>134418086 I'm casual for not wanting to use a fucking password to save my game with a fucking password? This isn't castlevania, that shit took forever
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>>134418153 No. Most Metroid fans like both the 2D and 3D games. There's just one or two trolls in this thread who are saying anyone who likes Prime hates the Metroid series.
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>>134418124 Adam sacrificed himself to make Samus grow the fuck up and stop using him as a way to not let go of her past.
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>>134418153 It's like one guy who fucks up every metroid thread. Most people like most of the games except other M. Some people get really ticked about Fusion's linearity, but that's about it.,
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Can we have a thread that doesn't involve rage and Other M trolling?
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>>134418030 I can understand not liking the controls, but the NES Metroid's music was fantastic.
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>>134418316 No, because people are stupid and keep responding to the troll who pretends to like Other M.
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>>134418316 Nup, there's always going to be some fucking retard and even more retards who respond.
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>>134418140 >Other M made Samus into an impotent, idiotic, weak abused sex object Then why does she kill multiple Space Pirates? Why does she injure Ridley so bad he runs away like a bitch? Why could she still use her suit despite being emotionally unstable? Giving a character the emotions that correspond to her sex isn't sexualizing. Revealing her gender by having her show up in a bikini as her big reveal is.
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>>134418153 This pic always makes me think about how there should be Metroid miniseries in the same style as Cowboy Bebop. A 'Metroid Noire', if you will.
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>>134418195 Casual, yes you're a casual
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>>134418012 I would love to see more stuff with the hunters. Hell, even if the next Prime games weren't allowed to feature Samus, I'd love to see more about the Hunters, like a game about Sylux taking on the Federation or Spire searching for his lost people (which would really fit Metoid's "empty worlds" vibe) or hell, a game about Weavel and his space pirates being space pirates. You KNOW that shit would be fun.
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You gotta love the Space Pirates.
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You know I never understood why /v/ loves Prime 2 when all the textures are muddy crap. 1>3>2>2D
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>>134418560 We love you too
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>>134418153 Her limbs only reach three quarters of the way down the limbs of the suit...
And the cannon is fucking huge.
Great image though.
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I read the Metroid Manga and I played Other M afterwards and I loved it. Deal with it westaboos, you're in a weeaboo website.
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>>134418316 Not today. That's not to say good threads like that never happen, I see decent threads occasionally, but it's usually a crapshoot here. Try again, another day, at a different time.
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I'm almost positive that this thread is being sabotaged by a single neckbeard who has nothing better to do with his Friday nights than post Other M love followed by "OMG FPS SO GUUD" then back to Other M love, almost culminating in a systematic cycle of perpetual hate within himself. By god. THAT said, I've enjoyed every Metroid game I've played, which is all of them besides the Return of Samus. Other M's gameplay was by far the worst of the bunch, but I don't think its just straight up awful. Sure the story was, but who doesn't think that other than the trolls. I just want Retro to take Metroid over again, or some other third party developer that won't take it up the ass from Sakamato like Team Ninja did.also whoever is saying the Prime's aren't canon is making me laugh hysterically, anyone who doesn't recognize why shouldn't be here right now
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>>134418773 go away Sakamoto
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Other M and Sin and Punishment are the only thing that are keeping my Wii from collecting dust. In my book the game is alright, and hard mode is quite a challenge that tests your skills when it comes to the FPS segments.
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>>134418773 if you actually read the manga you would see the huge inconsistencies
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>>134418923 I didn't laugh hard enough. I feel bad for it.
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Primes has all of my love over the 2D game because of the water droplets and magma in your helmet. such a psychedelic experience
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>>134418427 Why does she have a breakdown upon seeing Ridley after she's beaten the shit out of him seven goddamn times? Why does a single freeze gun blast cripple her, especially with the varia suit? Why does she worship Adam when he's done nothing but be a condescending jackoff to her? Why would she run around the fucking lava reef zone and not turn the varia suit on until Adam told her it was okay? Why does she endanger her own fucking life for no reason? Why is she suddenly so short compared to everyone else when she's supposed to be six feet tall if not to make her appear fragile? Why does she flip out so hard over THE BABY when she's cool with exploding a planet? The emotions she was given may correspond to her being a woman, but that doesn't mean they correspond to her already established character. That character being a badass who gives no fucks and kills fucking everything without batting an eye. Yeah, I mad, fuck you.
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>>134419095 Here you go, pic related.
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>>134414972 >They should work on their art direction then it looks like shit You can't be serious.
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Metroid is one of my 5 favorite series and absolute favorite Nintendo series. But the fanbase is shit. I fear the fanbase will never be happy with future Metroid titles, simply because 3/4 of the fanbase started with Metroid Prime. Even if they did make an amzing 2D Metroid on the level of Super or Zero Mission again, half the fanbase would bitch and call it crap.
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i hated metroid before it was cool
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>>134416589 Derp GOW has hold button down to initiate combos too. It's still dial a combo just like NG
Derp again
I said setting up big combos. Unlike NG or GOW there is no super automatic animation combo that comes while pressing XXY real fast. Sure you get a crazy combo at the end of the quick strings but those are baby tier compared to the combos you can do and are suggested to do by stringing separate moves and using your powers appropriately.
NG is only hard because the camera is shit.
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>>134419039 There aren't any and Adam treats her the same way he did in the manga. Samus is the problem in Other M, she's emotionally unstable and I truly felt for her and cheered her on as she got over her traumas!
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>>134419339 right on brother
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I always thought that if they were going to bother to flesh out Samus' character, she would basically be a female version of pic related. We got Other M instead.
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>>134418649 It's an exosuit for a reason. Samus is fucking Amazonian huge, though. Bitch be like 6'7" or some shit and I find that insanely attractive. I really wish she was that tall in Other M so something good would've come out of it.
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>>134419376 So a man with tits? Typical feminist shit.
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>>134418535 I just wanna talk about video games Anonymous
>>134419394 Nope. Samus has been like 6' forever. Sure it's still taller than the average woman but she's hardly amazon (even though she should be)
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>>134419376 >I thought That's the problem. The fanbase grew to think of her as a silent badass bounty hunter. Based on about 2 paragraphs worth of exposition. Sakamoto on the other hand thought differently.
Note: I'm not justifying the story in Other M and I too think it was horrible. Just saying, the average fans view of who Samus was is also completely false. For fuck sake, we never even see her perform any bounty hunting or talking.
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>>134419087 what a retarded comic. Scanning something doesn't work that way
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>>134419656 >thatsthejoke.jpg Anonymous
>>134419147 >Why does she have a breakdown upon seeing Ridley after she's beaten the shit out of him seven goddamn times? Primes is not canon
>Why does a single freeze gun blast cripple her, especially with the varia suit? She was emotionally distressed the suit fucks up badly when she's emotionally stressed
>Why does she worship Adam when he's done nothing but be a condescending jackoff to her? She lost her adoptive family, blew up their planet, and got her pet killed. Also she was being condescending to Adam when she questioned his order when his own Brother gave his life for the Crew on that ship that got lit on fire.
>Why is she suddenly so short compared to everyone else when she's supposed to be six feet tall if not to make her appear fragile? Read the manga she was never an amazon
>Why does she flip out so hard over THE BABY when she's cool with exploding a planet? When is it ever mentioned she's cool with blowing up a planet?
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>>134419504 >Samus has been like 6' forever. That's what I was saying. Where'd you get the opposite from?
>Sure it's still taller than the average woman but she's hardly amazon I coulda sworn she was like 6'7" and that's pretty damn tall.
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>>134419504 True, Samus was always taller than average. At least six feet tall.
When she's in her suit, she's about 7 feet tall.
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Is Sakamoto just mad that an American Development team made a better game than him?
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Why is Metroid Prime 1 so amazing and Echoes so terrible? Everything about Echoes just feels... kinda... I dunno it just felt like Prime 1 was never meant to have a sequel, even though it obviously was. I can't really explain it. Echoes just feels "different," and not in a good way.
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>2d metroid are castlevania clones >Metroid prime a FPS what the fuck is this shit?
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>>134419763 >please respond Anonymous
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>>134419954 a metroid thread
enjoy your stay!
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Samus is tall because growing up in outer-space makes you tall. THINK ABOUT IT.
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>>134419932 >Echoes >terrible I'm living on a different planet than all of you.
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>>134419810 A generic FPS, wow sooooo original!
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>>134419581 But the character they gave her is not the sort of person who would invade an enemy stronghold by herself and destroy an entire planet to collect a bounty. By her actions alone you would expect her to be at least a little cold blooded and not the sort of person to take shit from anyone.
Imagine if Other M was about Boba Fett instead. Just because he wasn't fully fleshed out in the Star Wars movies (and I'm not counting the prequels), it doesn't mean that it would justify turning him into an emotional pansy.
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>>134419810 You mean a generic FPS?
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>>134420041 you gotta try harder then that mister
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>>134419810 You mean a generic FPS, yeah truly superior game there.
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>>134419954 >Castelvania clones 6/10, you did ok.
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I am convinced that its just one guy de-railing these threads.
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why didn't all the space pirates become metal space pirates?
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>>134420017 if you grew up in weightlessness you'd have some serious muscle problems
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>>134420069 I wonder if Space Pirates have fetishes about tubecocks?
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>>134420116 >Samus as a Green Lantern It fits.
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>>134419810 I think he believes Metroid is his shot to glory, most of the other people behind the series original games are gone and he's the only one left so he's hoping to hitch his wagon to this star.
He needs to stop fucking around and take his ADD riddled ass back to the series that welcomes someone who jumps from one thought to another like Warioware, Rhythm Heaven and Game and Watch. He actually shined with those games.
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>>134420104 >If it has a first-person camera that means it's an FPS Not sure if you're a troll, or just dumb. Both, perhaps?
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Where exactly did the space pirates loving TUUUUUBES come from? Was it a scan in one of the Prime games I haven't seen or is it just the morph ball tunnels and door tubes or what?
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So guys, remember when they made the Zelda CDI games non canon? Can.. Can we do that with Other M? .. P-please?
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>>134420041 >generic FPS >>134420053 >generic FPS >>134420104 >generic FPS How much do you want to bet at least 2 out of these 3 posts are samefag?
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>>134420203 You can thank Other M for that Mary Sue bullshit
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>>134420203 Thanks to Other M it does the suit only moves because of her will, truly a display of her Iron Will not to give up!
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>>134420275 Lots of places only a morph ball could fit in the games. It became a running gag.
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>>134420203 Thanks to Other M!
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>>134420325 If anything that's an improvement over her old suit faggot
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>>134420371 >>134420330 God damn look at this samefagging mother fucker. You are an inspiration to shitposters everywhere.
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Why the fuck does the Zero Suit have high heels in Other M?
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>>134420417 I should be thankful for a Green Lanterm ripoff? Go fuck yourself with a rake faggot weeaboo.
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>>134420481 Because everything about Other M is fucking retarded.
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>>134420275 Because tubes are the ultimate form of underground building.
They're the greatest achievement of science since steam filled corridors and metroid jetpacks.
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>>134420519 >Thinks it's a green lantern ripoff Got a word for you
TO-KU
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>>134419376 I find it strange that the Chozo were like, never mentioned. Ever. Other M is supposed to have given Samus some backstory, and the fact that the Chozo were her adoptive parents and gave her the damned power suit in the first place was never brought up even once in passing was straight bizarre.
But in general, Other M was a clusterfuck of dull lengthy cutscenes, inconsistent plot, crappy controls (no nunchuk for you end of rine),horrid voice acting, terrible characters (except for mah nigga Anthony), linear gameplay, uninspired level design (forests, ice and lava again, yay), and mostly nonexistent music.
All I can say is if the Prime games follow a separate canon now, that's my only Metroid canon from now on.
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Fuck yes. I hope they make a Metroid game for 3DS.
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>>134420481 Team Ninja is to blame, Skamoto wanted them off but they told him if he didn't want them they would have to have Samus appear more outside of her suit. Sakamoto got furious and so they stayed.
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>>134420049 My biggest issue is that it sabotaged one of the first and very few examples of gender equality in video games, and for what?
What I've always found most appealing about the character and the series is that her sex was an afterthought, not the defining aspect of her personality. With Other M etc. they basically took all that potential and made her into a caricature, a blubbering stereotype of vulnerability and emotionality and that makes me unhappy.
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>>134420579 >Metroid jetpacks FUND IT
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>>134420582 >caring about weeaboo crap Anonymous
Serious question in regards to Other M. Prove yourself a competent troll. Fusion of course takes place after Other M, and in Fusion the X get a hold of a frozen Ridley, but as of Other M Ridley was reduced to a lifeless husk of nothing after meeting the queenie. So, the question is A.) Why the fuck did the Federation collect a husk that turns to dust when touched B.) Why the fuck did they freeze the husk and C.) Why the shit does the frozen husk fall apart like it was once whole?
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>>134420708 [citation needed]
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>>134420049 >Imagine if Other M was about Boba Fett instead. Just because he wasn't fully fleshed out in the Star Wars movies (and I'm not counting the prequels), it doesn't mean that it would justify turning him into an emotional pansy. But then that's basically what Lucas did in Episode II of Star Wars.... The whole reason Boba Fett became a bounty hunter was because he hated the Jedi for killing his father.
Honestly, the similarities to Samus and Boba Fett are more than you think.
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>>134420579 I never got that picture until now. I feel stupid.
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>>134420784 Because Other M is Sakamoto's shitty fapfiction.
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>>134420708 Actually, D-Rockets was the factor who wanted more Zero Suit, to which Sakamoto said no.
Watch some making of videos.
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>>134419763 >primes aren't canon ignoring the fact that they are, she's still fought him at least four times, then
>>34420343 I figured it was that. oh space pirates, ya gotta love their hijinks
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>>134420708 This sadly isn't true. Everything in Other M was a direct result of Sakamato telling Team Ninja what to do, even to the point where he was going against advice of the art directors he hired. A classic example of Sakamato changing an otherwise "good" thing to bad was when Sakamato made sure every single one of Samus's VA'd lines in Other M was as monotone as possible.
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>>134420116 Technically impossible.
I don't think Samus would be ale to use a GL ring, PTSD and all. And even if Other M does a really shitty job of handling it, it is canon that she suffers from PTSD.
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>>134420856 Fuck you science team go build some fucking tubes or inject some fauna with deadly chemicals.
Asshats.
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>>134420116 Oh I am nearly positive it's the same guy in every thread. It's certainly always the same canned arguments. The only reason it works is because he is so dedicated and just never stops samefagging. It's easy to ignore at first, but after a while you just get tired of this one guy shitting on everything anyone says and have to respond, even though you know it's going to go nowhere and just derail the thread.
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>>134420856 >Vapor for brains Goddamn I laugh my ass off when heard that for the first time.
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>>134420808 But could you imagine if they made an intermediate movie about Boba Fett? His humble origins working alongside the empire where he seems to whine and bitch all the time, and where he just lets his superiors make all the decisions for him. It wouldn't make any sense. The creators could claim we interpreted the character all wrong, but it still wouldn't match up to the guy who talks back to Vader like an equal and who needs to be explicitly told not to disintegrate someone.
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>>134420708 Absolutely incorrect.
Sakamoto pushed for the terrible horizontal wiimote control, even though Team Ninja wanted to do a Wiimote+Nunchuk control scheme, to the point where he said if the horizontal wiimote couldn't work, the game should be canceled (guess what? It didn't work and it should've been canceled!!!!!!!)
Team Ninja made a Gravity Suit render, Team Ninja made them get rid of it because the purple Gravity Suit would make the cutscenes be harder to take seriously (not exaggerating, he said that pretty much word for word).
Team Ninja made a solid engine for what could've been a solid game. Sakamoto ruined it with directorial influence he never should've had. Clearly he needs Iwata on his ass or he'll ruin anything.
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>>134420856 You're the reason why our doors are only accessible by the Hunter, the only reason why our technology sucks compared to hers, and the reason why our latrines fucked up.
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>>134420708 >Team Ninja is to blame God damn, people still think this? Just get off the internet. Clearly you're an idiot who believes every rumor he hears.
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>>134420914 Monotone voice does make sense, she's emotionally stunted you idiot.
Also Kutara did want Samus outside of her suit more and Sakamoto refused
http://www.metroid-database.com/news-post.php?id=328 high heels is also true but I can't find the link right now
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I can't let you do that, faggot.
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>>134421236 "people" don't think this. It's the Other M troll trying to throw blame off of his beloved Sakamoto.
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>>134420668 >I find it strange that the Chozo were like, never mentioned. Ever. Other M is supposed to have given Samus some backstory, and the fact that the Chozo were her adoptive parents and gave her the damned power suit in the first place was never brought up even once in passing was straight bizarre. THANK YOU.
This bothered the FUCK out of me. Samus going on about how Adam was the only father figure she ever had and bullshit like that - did Sakamoto forget that she had at least two Chozo who fulfilled a patriarchal role for her? One of which, she straight-up called her father?
Jesus Christ, how can someone fuck up the canon HE CREATED so badly without the use of midichlorians.
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Sakamoto should just stick to Warioware/Rhythm Heaven-like games
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>>134421180 >needs to be explicitly told not to disintegrate someone That one line alone established his character more than anything else. The same goes for Samus: the fact that nothing was ever said was more telling than if she spoke up a storm.
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>>134413918 Jesus Christ, was just about to give this piece of shit thread a read too.
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>>134421180 >The creators could claim we interpreted the character all wrong. this was the exact reasoning he had after the prime games, he felt it confused gamers as to who samus REALLY was.
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>>134421307 She called it Ojiisan you idiot I even have the manga downloaded to prove it. Also the chozo abandoned her, she has no family left but Adam.
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>>134421421 Less is more indeed. More was said with Samus and Admiral Dane simply nodding than all the Dialogue in other M.
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BY THE MIGHTY BEARD OF THOR, THIS IS THE GREATEST ASSEMBLY OF GAMES EVER TIER: Metroid Prime Trilogy GOD TIER: Super Metroid Metroid Prime Metroid Prime 2: Echoes HIGH TIER: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption Metroid: Zero Mission Metroid Fusion OUTDATED BUT STILL OKAY TIER: Metroid Metroid II NOT METROID BUT GOOD TIER: Metroid Prime Pinball NOT METROID NOR GOOD TIER: Metroid Prime: Hunters Metroid: Other M
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>>134420876 She fought him four times, yes. Twice in Zero Mission (where he was supposedly killed, twice). Again in Super Metroid where he took
THE BABY! and got away, and then "killed" in Norfair again.
But OH SHIT he suddenly showed up on the Bottle Ship. He was supposed to be DEAD remember? NOW it's time to remember that this dude killed your parents and start crying, because that never mattered before.
>B-but she really thought he was dead! Oh shut the fuck up. She already had 3 intense bouts with the motherfucker beforehand and took him on fine. There is absolutely no excuse. And besides, there is no evidence from the game to support this, since her fear in that scene is shown to come from her childhood memories alone. Not to mention by that point she already knew that the Federation was cloning Metroids and Space Pirates again, what's stopping them from cloning Ridley?
And of course I'm saying this in regard to the "Primes aren't canon" theory. When you factor in those it's even more absurd.
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>>134421664 >ojiisan C- trolling, son. I hope you put more effort into next semester.
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>>134421754 >Metroid Prime: Hunters B-But I liked the hunters...
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>>134421776 She blew up the planet they fought in you retard. Also Ridleys don't grow on trees you need genetic material to grow them from.
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>>134421664 She called Old Bird "Old Bird" because he told her to call him that. She called Gray Voice "father", and Gray Voice called her "daughter", repeatedly, and another chozo compared their relationship to a father and daughter's. I read the manga too, dipshit.
>implying Adam didn't abandon her too, the way Other M tells it. She leaves his service because of a hugely traumatic experience, and Adam is so rectal devastated he never talks to her again? FATHER OF THE YEAR.
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>>134421840 I have to admit, Hunters single player just felt awful to me the same way Phantom Hourglass for Zelda felt awful. I did like the multiplayer though, albeit aiming in a multiplayer game with a stylus was frustrating as all hell.
PS, stop talking to it. You know who. Anonymous
>>134421808 I'm sorry you were saying?
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>>134421840 The characters were cool. The game sucked.
Gotta use Sylux and Weavel again sometime.
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>>134421508 The reason for his beef with jedi was established, but a) he was a little kid, b) he had maybe a few minutes of screen time and more importantly c) he didn't spend those minutes crying and wetting himself--even when he comes across his father's decapitated head (spoilers?). In Boba Fett's case the character's personality is explained, in Samus's case her personality is undermined.
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>>134421754 GOD TIER:
Super Metroid
Metroid Prime
Metroid Fusion
HIGH TIER:
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
Metroid: Zero Mission
OUTDATED BUT STILL OKAY TIER:
Metroid
Metroid II
NOT METROID BUT GOOD TIER:
Metroid Prime Pinball
NOT METROID NOR GOOD TIER:
Metroid Prime: Hunters
Metroid: Other M
FTFY
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>he still thinks Other M was anything but complete shit
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>>134421754 >prime better than super >confirmed for retard Anonymous
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>>134421976 >Adam is so rectal devastated he never talks to her again? Of course he's pissed off, he had to sacrifice his brother for the safety of the crew and Samus herself and the rebellious little cunt still tries to badmouth him.
Also give me the page numbers where she calls Gray Voice father.
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>>134422006 I just wanna talk about videogames .
>>134422029 I'll give you that one. I just want to see more of the characters. Maybe make a game about the Kriken Empire invading Federation space because Trace found a suitable planet to assault and the Space Pirates get involved.
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>>134421923 I don't see how the planet exploding made Ridley anymore dead than when she filled him with super missles until he fucking blew up. Three times.
Really, the scene would've been more bearable had they given a good excuse for why she lost her shit, like attributing it to a a deeply dormant fear that just happened to spring up that time. But as it is, her reaction was more suitable if it had been the first time she encountered Ridley since he killed her parents. She acted like a rookie and a wimp, and almost got a comrade killed, which gives little believability to her previous exploits on Zebes.
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>>134422149 I never said Prime was better than Super. Taken on their own, they're incredibly similar games, pretty much equal in every facet except raw content, which Prime wins fairly easily.
But Trilogy just has SO MUCH to do, and all of it is SO GOOD, I can't in good conscience rank it anywhere other than the absolute top.
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>>134422197 Samus was in the right in that one. There was time to rescue him.
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>>134422308 She blew up zebes with ridley on it, lost the baby and is on a severely horrible standing with Adam. Samus is far from emotionally stable in Other M. Bitch about the Chozo not making a cameo, but not how her character is handled.
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>>134422318 >bundled prime games better than super >confirmed for retard Anonymous
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>>134422318 Not a chance. Prime's mediocre platforming and clunky combat can't compare to Super's fluid action.
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>gets eaten by sarlaac >decides he doesn't want to be worm chow for 1000 years >uses a grenade from some other poor mook within the sarlaac >gives the sarlaac explosive indigestion >gets puked out, half dead and laying in the desert >days later semi-recovered and back to disintegrating scum and villainy
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>>134422506 Goddamn bloody hero.
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GOD TIER: Metroid Prime Metroid Prime: Hunters HIGH TIER: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption OUTDATED BUT STILL OKAY TIER: Metroid Metroid II NOT METROID BUT GOOD TIER: Metroid Prime Pinball NOT METROID NOR GOOD TIER: Metroid: Other M Metroid Prime 2: Echoes Super Metroid Metroid: Zero Mission Metroid Fusion
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>>134422695 this thread just may kill me
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>>134422695 2/10 try harder next time
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>>134422197 Being pissed at her when she left, fine. His ass still being frosted about it after she's saved the galaxy about three times over, AND the planet where she was raised was just blown to smithereens (again)? That's past reasonable and roaring right into "douchebag".
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>>134422353 >Look at the pretty colors. Dis gun be good.
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>>134422695 FUCK YEAH!
Fuck Sakamoto, he's been ruining Metroid for too long!
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>liking haloid was cawadooty your first game /v/irgins?
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>>134422695 Agreed Sakamoto is nothing but a cancer to the series and Hunters is the most underrated multiplayer experience ever.
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>>134422436 Samus spent almost no time with THE BABY, she has no reason to care as much as she does. Even after THE BABY saves her and helps her kill Mother Brain, it doesn't warrant more than a "that'll do, metroid. that'll do."
>but THE BABY imprinted on Samus as its mother, and she felt responsible for it!! Then why did Samus hand THE BABY over to GF researchers with no hesitation?
Samus has no reason to be so dependent on Adam. She's fought armies, committed genocide and blown up a planet alone with no problem, why is she suddenly unable to act on her own?
The only valid argument is blowing up Zebes because that's where she grew up, but c'mon, there weren't even any Chozo on it still.
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>>134422845 >Hunters is the most underrated multiplayer experience ever. It really is underrated. I'd love for tthem to bring Hunters to a console or PC or something so that it could enjoy a little more popularity.
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Maybe Other M was a victim of the way stories are traditionally told in America vs Japan. Japanese stories generally tend to be about a character overcoming inner demons to unlock their true potential. Think about the trope where the hero needs to overcome a villain many times stronger than himself. At first he's powerless, and then the bad guy does something really dastardly (threatens his girlfriend, attacks his friends, kills Krillin, etc) and this causes the character to attain the right mindset to overcome the odds (or go Super Saiyan). American stories generally tend to be about heroes who already have all of the grit they need to overcome an obstacle, and the conflict of the story is figuring out how they're going to do it (by acquiring information, weapons, allies, etc). Metroid has always been more of an 'American' story. Samus seems to have always had the guts she needed to succeed from the start, and success was just a matter of getting the right firepower. Other M was a massive tonal shift that doesn't mesh with the Samus of previous games at all. You can't have a character wordlessly blow up planets and then try to pass her off as an emotional marshmallow.
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>>134422770 He always had to put up with her rebellious little ass, and he also had to deal with her Bounty Hunter exploits afterwards probably as well as a clean up guy. Also he lost a brother, a fucking brother man, that shit is just as irreplaceable as The Chozo abandoning her. Plus him sacrificing himself for her means he let bygones be bygones anyhow.
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>>134422436 >the baby Anyway. It's fine to do a game where Samus is in an emotionally crippled state. But that doesn't change the fact that Other M was really pretentious, overly dramatic and badly written. If they'd actually done justice to Samus' character and done a realistic interpretation of PTSD the way a soldier suffers from it, I would've sucked Sakamoto off the second it came out.
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>>134422436 >She blew up zebes with ridley on it A dead Ridley on it, yes. I still don't know why destroying the planet makes him more dead than he already was. You still haven't explained that. And neither have the games, really, for that matter.
>lost the baby Not her fault. It sacrificed itself to save her life and destroy Mother Brain, and she doesn't stop bitching about it as if she were the one who killed it herself.
>and is on a severely horrible standing with Adam Perhaps, but why does she give a shit. She purged and destroyed a planet full of space pirates and Metroids by herself. Does that not instill any confidence in her to challenge her former commander when he thinks she doesn't have the common sense to not use power bombs in sensitive conditions?
>but not how her character is handled. Oh but I will. If Other M had taken place before the original Metroid I would have been completely fine her character. They could've just made her collaboration with the federation her last test in her training or something, but as it is the game made her character regress severely to that of a trainee, someone definitely not qualified for a campaign against a whole army of space pirates and metroids alone.
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>>134423067 Its Adam's own fault that his brother Died.
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>>134422949 >Then why did Samus hand THE BABY over to GF researchers with no hesitation? It was safer there and she didn't know about the bioweapons experimentation. Even in the manga Samus is ditzy as fuck at times.
>Samus has no reason to be so dependent on Adam. She's fought armies, committed genocide and blown up a planet alone with no problem, why is she suddenly unable to act on her own? PTSD, and the birds abandoning her
>The only valid argument is blowing up Zebes because that's where she grew up, but c'mon, there weren't even any Chozo on it still. It was her homeland so to speak and it was a symbol of what was eventually her "people"
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As far as I'm concerned, if you pay Other M's (and Fusion's to an extent) plot any lip service at all, you're not a real Metroid fan and not worth arguing with.
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>>134423151 It was an accident, and she couldn't save him on time because if any more time had been wasted the rest of the ship might have gotten compromised or samus herself could have gotten hurt.
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>>134423019 Possible. But even ignoring all the misogynistic things Sakamoto has said about Samus, it still doesn't work because Samus doesn't really overcome her demons in any meaningful way.
Sure, she mans up after Anthony falls into the lava and fights Ridley, but there's no redeeming rematch after he runs off where Samus sees him and is like "Guess what bitch, YOUR ASS IS GRASS", she just finds him metroided. She doesn't overcome her dependency on Adam, he just dies and she throws a bitchfit and then runs off. There's no reconciliation of her past with the Chozo and Ridley killing her parents, the former isn't mentioned and the latter is barely referenced.
The potential for the more Japanese story to happen, but the writing in Other M is just so irredeemably awful that it just doesn't. It's too inconsistent and schizophrenic and in general poor.
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>>134423076 PTSD affects people in many ways. Some people go berserk, rip and tear, others turn into a little bitch who want to die. Samus is the latter as shown here
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>>134423447 So Sakamoto just turned Samus into a Submissive Waifu for the hell of it?
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>>134423019 That might hold water if Samus... you know... actually got stronger and overcame foes at ANY point in the game.
The story was definitely more Japanese-y, but not in the way you describe. It features clearly Japanese speech patterns and dumbass backwards views on social interactions and gender roles. The story is (poorly) constructed to make you feel sorry for Samus and want to hug her and protect her.
It's sci-fi moe, basically. Very Japanese, but in no way potentially valid or interesting.
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>>134423447 Oh, I agree that Other M was shitty. But I think that was the kind of story they were going for. However, even if it was a well written 'wimp to badass' story, it comes at the entirely wrong time in the continuity.
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>>134423465 Naw bro, I'm pretty sure she's the former.
Same comic, several pages later.
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>>134423142 >A dead Ridley on it, yes. I still don't know why destroying the planet makes him more dead than he already was. You still haven't explained that. And neither have the games, really, for that matter. It's implied he has high regen powers and his memories are also on a genetic level which is why even when he went through a metamorphosis he still wanted to kill Samus
>Not her fault. It sacrificed itself to save her life and destroy Mother Brain, and she doesn't stop bitching about it as if she were the one who killed it herself. Totally her fault, she left it in the hands of the GF because she was too afraid to assume responsibility for it
>Perhaps, but why does she give a shit. Her family abandoned her, and she destroyed a memento to them. Also Adam is practically her only father figure and she did a fine job at alienating him due to the brother incident.
>her character regress severely to that of a trainee, Her character regresses to someone who is crippled by a psychological disorder and lingering too much in the past. This is why she's severely nostalgic about Adam in Fusion as well.
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>>134423465 But like three pages later Samus gets over her PTSD and blows Ridley the fuck up, so why is it an issue in Other M?
>>134423275 >PTSD, and the birds abandoning her PTSD from what? Ridley? She is by all other sources over that. See: Manga, EVERY OTHER METROID GAME with Ridley.
And how did the Birds abandon her? By dying? That shouldn't be a problem. People die. So do birds. Samus shouldn't be so hung up on it.
And why does she care so much about Adam? There has been no sufficient reason shown for them to be any closer than officer and CO. There is NO GODDAMN REASON for her to hang on Adam's every word and be desperate for his approval.
STORYTELLING NIGGER DO YOU UNDERSTAND IT
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>>134423801 Just to clarify, the Chozo didn't die. They ascended to a higher plane of existence because they had too much awesome for the galaxy's own good.
Anonymous
>>134423801 You don't "get over" PTSD.
Anonymous
>>134423690 That's after the Chozo helped her cope with her malady
0/10 try harder.
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>>134423890 see
>>134423690 You do if you're a fucking badass trained from childhood to be a savior of the galaxy like Samus was. And even if she's not totally "over it" she still has no problem with it in the 5-8 other times she fights Ridley before Other M. It's completely inconsistent.
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So we're conjuring up hitherto unmentioned psychiatric maladies to account for Samus' shitty characterization in Other M? Seriously? This smacks of grasping at straws.
Anonymous
>>134423896 By giving her a power suit. And last I checked, she still has that.
>>134423890 You do when there's bird magic involved.
Anonymous
Retro needs to come back to the Metroid Series.
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>>134423801 >implying you can get over PTSD The best you can do is cope and man the fuck up, which she was able to do until Other M. Other M's scenario just reminded her too much of her exploits and it made the necessary triggers for her to freak out.
>And how did the Birds abandon her? They left her, plain and simple left her and fucked off to the stars.
>And why does she care so much about Adam? Only person to recognize her as a woman, and as a soldier as well. Only person to recognize her worth and importance, only person who put up with her rebellious little ass.
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>>134424084 >By giving her a power suit. And last I checked, she still has that. No, that's wrong, and it wasn't magic, it was just showing love and support.
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>>134424108 Retro's done, bro. You could tell they were running out of ideas in Prime 3. Although I agree it's best if the series is kept out of Nintendo's hands for the next... thousand... or so entries.
In my fantastical fanboy dream world, Insomniac will work on the next title.
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>>134424132 >who is anthony? >who are the other bounty hunters? oh wait, prime games aren't canon because GLORIOUS SAKAMOTO-SAN said so >who are the dudes Samus worked with in the manga? >samus is a woman, so she needs validation from a man because no woman could ever be self-dependent and solitary Anonymous
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>>134424132 >Only person to recognize her as a woman, and as a soldier as well. Only person to recognize her worth and importance, only person who put up with her rebellious little ass. I really doubt someone who's conquered armies of lethal aliens and saved the galaxy single handedly several times over would be that needy and desperate for approval.
Samus' inconsistent personality in Other M was due to bad writing. That's really all there is to it as far as I'm concerned.
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>>134419763 This.
However,
>Prime >Not canon Anonymous
>>134423890 >>134424132 How can you not get over a imaginary fictitious disease?
Seriously, the criterion of symptoms used in the diagnostic process of "PTSD" is not a indication of any form of biological illness, it's not even a disease, to imply otherwise would just be nothing but pure pseudoscience.
But yes, one can suffer the criterion of symptoms used in the diagnostic process of PTSD, and "get over it".
It's not a real terminal neurological disease, like vCJD or something you know.
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>>134423789 >It's implied he has high regen powers and his memories are also on a genetic level which is why even when he went through a metamorphosis he still wanted to kill Samus >implied In the manga, right? Still, there was not exposition for her freeze-up besides flashing back to her childhood. She's familiar with Ridley at that point, and she backed away from him like she hadn't seen him in twenty years. Does this not seem unsettling at all?
>Totally her fault, she left it in the hands of the GF because she was too afraid to assume responsibility for it Wrong. She gave it to the GF for the purpose of research and research only.
>Her family abandoned her, and she destroyed a memento to them. Also Adam is practically her only father figure and she did a fine job at alienating him due to the brother incident. He sure as hell didn't act like much of a father figure at all. He was constantly distant towards her, condescending to her even. Everything about him is only assumed about him through Samus' monologue. We never truly learn who he is by his own account. And regardless, her fucking up her precious relationship with the man does not excuse her lack of common sense regarding the authorization of her equipment. She can fucking authorize herself goddammit. She's a one-woman death machine.
>Her character regresses to someone who is crippled by a psychological disorder and lingering too much in the past. This is why she's severely nostalgic about Adam in Fusion as well. Lingering too much in the past that conveniently leaves out the Chozo, it seems. Good thing that she didn't linger in the past and slowly walk around making up monologues when she was in utmost peril on Zebes then, she was more than content to do that in Other M.
But if you want to excuse Other M's horrid writing and characterization, that's your perogative.
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>>134424132 I can't believe that there are Other M apologists. Stop making excuses.
If Samus has PTSD then have it kick in when she's off duty and curled up in the fetal position in her space-apartment next to a bottle of space-vodka. There is no reason for that shit to show up in the middle of combat for bullshit reasons when it has never been an issue before.
Sure, she can be fragile sometimes. Maybe blowing up an entire planet for a cash sum haunts her at night. But when she puts on the suit, she kicks ass and takes names. She's had several games that prove as much.
Anonymous
>who is anthony? Nignog who's pretty chill with everyone but doesn't know enough about Samus like Adam>who are the dudes Samus worked with in the manga? People who clearly never understood her pain and turmoil, people she abandoned because of that.
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>>134424276 >>134424337 I was referring to the fact that she realizes Ridley is a punk-ass bitch who can't hurt her when she has the power suit on. It's all "Oh look, your gigantic death fireball barely scuffed my armor... I CAN BEAT THE EVER-LOVING SHIT OUT OF YOU!"
And then she does, and everyone lives happily ever after because they knew that these stupid plot points would never be needlessly rehashed in places where they make no fucking sense. And then they went out for ice cream and rode sweet-ass dirt bikes off into the sunset.
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>>134416193 Actually, if you read the logs, the chozo ghosts happened because of the chozo's will to protect their planet. The psychic will was left over and manifests near sacred grounds.
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>>134424542 >>If Samus has PTSD then have it kick in when she's off duty and curled up in the fetal position in her space-apartment next to a bottle of space-vodka. There is no reason for that shit to show up in the middle of combat for bullshit reasons when it has never been an issue before. But it did in the manga, look at her curl up and flashback to happier times
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>>134424494 You're trying too hard.
PTSD is a psychological illness, which means it affects the mental stability of a person, based on traumatic memories.
Now if you wanna be special and say that it's all in the head, may I remind you that memories are stored in the brain in physical form. if the memory is traumatic, it can revive old feelings, and cause instability in emotion, which is how PTSD even manifests.
One does not simply "get over it." 4/10 I replied.
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>>134424641 Let's pretend I agree with you, even though going from what they show in Other M alone Anthony and Samus actually are pretty close, from him calling her princess, her being okay with it, how upset she was when Ridley knocked him off him
'cause Ridley GOT NO STYLE and how Anthony shows up at the end, how about my other two points?
>who are the other bounty hunters? oh wait, prime games aren't canon because GLORIOUS SAKAMOTO-SAN said so >samus is a woman, so she needs validation from a man because no woman could ever be self-dependent and solitary Anonymous
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Seeing this thread opened a wound in my heart I thought had healed a long time ago. "Metroid." Such a cruel reminder of the past made me shiver as I heard the name of the series I once loved, and later lost all hope for due to the efforts of Team Ninja. Confession time, I never really liked any of their games after most of their staff left and I thought Ninja Gaiden 3 was an insult that hurt me deeply. As I typed these words, I entered a CAPTCHA phrase and hit submit, only to await whomever would happen to read this message typed minutes before their reply.
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>>134424702 She's actually scared shitless when he fires the beam, it's only afterwards where she slaps his shit in after she realizes she can take him on.
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>>134424872 Anthony was the only character I actually liked in Other M.
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>>134424823 But people can and do. With years of therapy, love, support, and occasionally medication.
Guess what Samus got in spades from the ages of about 4 to 20-something?
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>>134424984 Yes. That is precisely what I was talking about. Ergo, the power suit is the key.
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>>134424823 >implying they haven't found a way to cure SPACE PTSD in the SPACE FUTURE it involves tubes Anonymous
>>134424872 >hrurrduhhrrr sexism hurrr duhhrrr She sees Adam as a father figure that's all there is, Anthony as well but not as much. Anthony is just a bro to everyone and minds his own business, hell his dialogue even implies that.
>>134425017 And the manga shows she clearly hasn't recovered entirely, and the Chozo leaving her just exacerbated the problem.
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>>134425076 You honestly sound like you're pulling bullshit out of your ass just to excuse Other M's shitty writing. You don't need to apologize for every inconsistency the creators throw at you just because its canon. You do have the right to call bullshit and be legitimately puzzled as to why they would bulldoze everything that's been established about the character for no reason.
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>>134419763 >>134419763 >>134419763 >She was emotionally distressed the suit fucks up badly when she's emotionally stressed Worst decision they made in that stupid game.
It a fucking space suit. It's supposed to keep you alive in mother fucking space. It should not dissolve every time you fucking sneeze.
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>>134425064 Not really, if anything that just shows how much of an effect the Chozo's reassurance and love had on her.
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>>134425242 The manga is also awful, and commissioned by the same massive fuckhead who wrote Other M.
Literally in every other incarnation, the Chozo were depicted as a loving foster family. Heck, the mural in Zero Mission depicts a motherfucking IDYLLIC familial relationship.
Game canon > book canon.
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>>134425374 Sorry but it's always been like that, pic related
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>>134425460 The Chozo did love her in the manga though
>>134424427 >>134424371 >>134424337 >>134424276 Were you too busy fapping to the scat fetish porn or something?
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>>134425546 >>134425546 >>134425546 Doesn't mean it isn't retarded as fuck.
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>>134425406 Where did you get that from? She touches the place where the beam hit, realizes she's perfectly fine, then calls Ridley out for bitch and ices him.
Where does the reassurance factor into this scene?
But hey, I feel like we're getting off track here. I don't deny that the Chozo were incredibly helpful and supportive, and I certainly don't believe that PTSD is a valid excuse for anything that happens in Other M. We agree on that, right?
Anonymous
I actually liked the Metroid Manga. At least there its explained why she froze up when facing Ridley. 1. Its her first time facing him after the colony attack 2. The Manga establishes that she's only 17 years old at the time. Does she mope about it though? No. She mans up and kicks his ass into next week.
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>>134425242 >she sees Adam as a father figure but WHY? Neither the manga nor other m shows or even tells about their relationship other than ANY OBJECTIONS LADY? and ADAM IS ALWAYS RIGHT AND I AM ALWAYS DUMB AND WRONG. There is no justification for their relationship except "because I said so".
If you're playing by those rules what stops Samus from knowing other people that haven't been mentioned in the games yet? How do we know she doesn't have half a dozen boyfriends? She's a galaxy-famous world-ending bounty hunter, she probably has burly dudes all over her whenever she goes to an inhabited planet.
>hey baby, I hear you can roll into a ball... you must be pretty limber, eh? why don't you come back to my space pad and show me what you can do. you be the bird, i'll be the bee Anonymous
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>>134425629 Nah, just busy calling the other guy a retard. You know how it is.
Still, that manga is pretty damn terrible.
>>134425546 Then why didn't she manifest it while infiltrating the mothership in Zero Mission?
Anonymous
>>134425734 Which is what she did in Other M...
She had a relapse and then kicked Ridley's ass. Even jumped on his fucking face and shot a missile in his mouth.
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>>134425648 >we can't draw mechanical parts for shit >make he suit appear from thin air exactly
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>>134425546 Here's a funny thing about canon and all that.
ITS A FICTIONAL THING, NOTHING IS REAL. If somethings badly written and stupid, it doesn't make it "right" when it's canon. It just means its fucking terrible and its not going away because the person who is churning shit out "believes" it.
That manga is an obscure shitfest that was only released in Japan. It sucks, all its ideas suck, and it being canon does nothing to dilute the shittiness of everything that is connected to it.
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>>134425798 Naw, I'm pretty sure in Other M she lets a teammate die and then doesn't even bother to hunt down the asshole who did it. She just lightly muses if he was conscious before burning to death and then walks away.
Last I checked, anway. Which was about a week ago when I watched Retsupurae's MST3K-ing of the game.
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>>134425663 >Where does the reassurance factor into this scene? All of her attacks against Kraid were useless until she used the ice beam (pic related). Against Ridley she only used a simple beam to slap his shit in. Yes the Variasuit is a bit better but it doesn't matter if the user is a dimwit or someone with poor will power.
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>>134425976 OH YEAH, LETS FORGOT THE GAMEPLAY IN A GAME.
That is what's important in Metroid, isn't it?
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>>134425663 >But hey, I feel like we're getting off track here. I don't deny that the Chozo were incredibly helpful and supportive, and I certainly don't believe that PTSD is a valid excuse for anything that happens in Other M. We agree on that, right? PTSD is not something you can get entirely over with and Other M's problems lie on delivery not the message itself.
Anonymous
>>134426101 What gameplay? You mean brainlessly spamming the d-pad and the A button?
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I never saw Samus as a character who needed characterization, she's a bounty hunter. At this point, she probably can't wait to fight Ridley again. At this point, Fighting Ridley is probably the closest she'll ever come to her parents ever again. Her whole view of the world is slightly skewed, that's not to say she'd be "crazy" She would just be a very rational, and practical person with a few mental scars. If they REALLY wanted Other M to be more character focused, why didn't they just force a character who is the complete opposite of Samus upon her through certain circumstances? That would be something she'd be unfamiliar with couldn't get rid of. You could even keep the lonely atmosphere, except this time you'd have one other person, it doesn't have to be anything romantic or anything. Character wise it may remind Samus, for a second, just how lonely she is (and probably even do the same for the player if the other character is done right). Would it change her? Maybe a tiny bit, moving a person like her emotionally is like moving a large, cracked, boulder. There are weak points but if you strike them you're only going to get subtle progress. She wouldn't turn into a babby though.
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>>134426095 I think you should stop using that terrible comic to justify the terrible choices they have made with the story in these games.
The space suit that isn't a space suit is stupid. the whole 'willpower makes it magic' shit is stupid. the inconsistency is just bad writing that should not have been approved for publishing, and that is why it was never let out of the festering asshole of japan.
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>>134426178 What message? There is no message. It's a plot point with ZERO facts supporting it (save for a comic commissioned by the same douchebag who wrote the shitty game), is brought up once for no reason other than to apparently kill off a character, and then is abruptly dropped before it can reach any sort of satisfying conclusion.
In summation: no backing, no purpose, no follow-through. Why should we even bother considering this a valid thing in any way?
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>>134425745 >She's a galaxy-famous world-ending bounty hunter, she probably has burly dudes all over her whenever she goes to an inhabited planet. Samus isn't looking for that at all, nor is Adam.
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>>134426178 Which sucks that they fucked it up so badly because they're beholden to terrible ideas.
Having Samus have PTSD so bad that she purposely seeks out combat since its the only way for her to deal with being a wreck of a person would have been a decent angle to go on.
Also Samus' breakdown in Other M is not how PTSD behaves in real life. What she had would be more related to the idea of a phobia / panic attack. PTSD is more like reacting as if your life was in danger to banal situations, rather than experiencing fear at actual fearful things.
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>>134426178 Other M's problems lie all over the god damn place.
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>>134426339 A Metroid buddy cop movie?
Anonymous
>>134426232 You mean like Super Metroid, Fusion, and Zero Mission?
Oh hey, that's how Prime worked too, but switch d-pad with control stick.
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>>134424823 I love how you gave me a 4/10 and heavily implied that I just made up my post for the sole purpose of aggravating people. IE. I'm not a troll.
May I remind you, that the normal way the human body deals with traumatic experiences is NOT a biological disease. Or any kind of disease for that matter.
That's all PTSD is, a imaginary label given to the way the human body deals with traumatic experiences, and dumbasses like you have been indoctrinated into falsely believing it's a actual disease.
1. The criterion of symptoms used in the diagnostic process is not a indication of any form of biological illness.
2. There is absolutely no etiology for this so called "real disease". It has no biomarkers. There are no tests for it, there is absolutely no proof that it is in fact a actual disease.
You fucking moron, people can "get over" traumatic experiences. Some people can, some people can't, everyone is a individual, and every traumatic experience is unique to the individual experiencing it. But bottom line is, it's not a disease, let alone a terminal one.
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>>134426456 Pretty sure those games didn't have magic auto-dodge and auto-aim.
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>>134426382 It's canon, and WAAAAAAAAAAAY better than the hillbilly Samus slut we got in the US
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I was more annoyed that they did absolutely nothing with Samus's PTSD episode in Other M. She has a panic attack, quickly gets over it quick enough to face Ridley, then Ridley fucks off and it's never brought up again. There's no chance to have the squad or some shit show her animosity because she essentially let Antony die, no Adam trying to get her to get over it, nothing. Hell, she doesn't even get a chance to avenge Antony, Ridley gets killed fucking OFF-SCREEN, one of the most bullshit ways to kill an antagonist in a video game. It's as if they intentionally added it as an attempt to undermine her character.
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>>134426396 That doesn't mean it doesn't happen. The point is there are people other than Adam (supposedly) that recognize her as a woman and a soldier.
>>134426456 Fusion is challenging as shit, especially playing with the awkwardly-place 3DS d-pad. Other M is spamming sense move and charge shot. Watch someone slightly competent play it, they take virtually no damage, ever.
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>>134426532 Prime did actually. Auto Aim that is.
And for the 2D games you just jump to use autoaim.
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>>134426559 Hillbilly? Slut? The fuck?
I think it's time to lay off the booze there, pal. Drink a glass of water, take a painkiller, and go to sleep. You don't want a hangover tomorrow.
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>>134421754 >BY THE MIGHTY BEARD OF THOR, THIS IS THE GREATEST ASSEMBLY OF GAMES EVER TIER: >Metroid Prime Trilogy The visor/beams controls were fucked up compared to the original gc controller but it was a great deal nonetheless.
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>>134426559 Try reading something decent and be ashamed of yourself for enjoying that crap you have been posting.
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woooow. you guys play as a girl in a game? fucking faggots. dont give me that 'staring at a guys ass is gay, so ill play as a girl' excuse, we all know youre full of shit. you all just want to be a fucking prissy princess in real life so i hope you enjoy this whatever the fuck you call it
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>>134426656 What? No. Those things are not what auto-aim is at all.
Prime had a lock-on system to compensate for the fact that is was an FPS with single-stick movement control. You still have to manually engage and maintain the lock, and enemies are often capable of dodging your shots through sheer speed.
Don't know what the bloody fuck you're talking about with the 2D games.
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>>134426559 Congratulations! You're an idiot and a misogynist who probably got off on the woman-hating and rampant objectification depicted in Ohter M.
"Ugh fuck this gaijin american Samus! She's like a fucking knight errant or bounty hunter or some shit! Not like my perfect nipponese Samus, who is utterly submissive, helpless without a man, and lies on the ground moaning like a whore in a skintight suit (BUT SHES NOT A SEXLOVING SLUT ITS CANON FUCK OFF)
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>>134426413 PTSD can get triggered by a lot of things, that remind the person of the traumatic episode. Said things were all over the damn bottleship which made Samus uneasy hence her whole "BIOWEAPUHNS!!!!!11" outburst. Sakamoto purposely made the bottleship like that to have Samus confront her past and assume responsibility instead of running away into the heat of battle like she always did. Sakamoto wanted to also use that as a way to show us who Samus really was. Shitty delivery and writing got in the way of these ideas though, but that's because Sakamoto can't into 3D. Plus we also had
>>134421257 Kutara wanting to take off Samus from her armor as well as shown here.
Sakamoto works best when someone has him on a leash, Kutara was not the appropriate man to keep Saka on his leash.
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>>134425278 >runs out of an argument >calls an explanation of PTSD an apology to Other M http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001923/ Even with treatment, relapses can still occur. PTSD is not something that can be cured easily, as you'd have to remove the memory itself and all instances of the event.
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>>134426618 0/10 try harder PTSD is a real disease, if you knew anything about neurology and conditioning you'd know this.
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>>134426926 More like, when Sakamoto has no leash, he's the best.
>Wario Ware, Rhythm Heaven, Kikki Trick Anonymous
>>134427018 >wah wah wah im a worthless bitch so fuck me in the ass Pussy ass cunts and their made up 'disease' for attention.
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>>134426441 I guess, if you wanted to see it that way, I'm just trying to find logical ways to build a character like Samus. I have no clue if I'm doing better than Other M or not, but this is assuming if I HAD to add more depth to her (which is typically done by throwing characters into situations they aren't used to.) One of the things we can definitely draw from the games is that she isn't used to being around people given their nature, it would be something different, and Samus would even reflect the players thoughts of someone else being there, but I think if designed correctly the player would miss them when they were gone. Through non-player driven action where I'd draw the character from, it only makes sense, and then you can infer from there.
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>>134427069 Technically it isn't a disease, it's a disorder.
>Disease: a definite pathological process having a characteristic set of signs and symptoms. It may affect the whole body or any of its parts, and its etiology, pathology, and prognosis may be known or unknown. See also illness, mal, sickness, and syndrome. >Disorder: a derangement or abnormality of function; a morbid physical or mental state.
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>>134426906 >loses argument >calls someone a misogynist Feminists, you crazy!
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>>134427140 This is the part when you say "hurr trold hard fgt"
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>>134427018 Not the guy you're replying to, but again, this is far-off future SPACE LAND where they can clone creatures from splattered goo scraped off a battlesuit and copy minds into computers, not to mention magic will-power-powered suits, but they can't cure or essentially cure PTSD? It may be a problem here, right now, on earth in >2012
but we've already got several ways of greatly mitigating it to the point where it's not a severe problem.
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>>134427018 You just don't get it do you? I don't care how well you understand PTSD, nor how well you can explain it. It doesn't matter one goddamned bit when it comes to characterization.
What I want to know is why they decided after all of these years, after all the games Samus has been in that now was the appropriate time and place for her to have a psychological disorder that was never even remotely hinted at in any previous installments.
They could add a 100% medically accurate depiction of PTSD to Agent 007 in a James Bond movie, but it still wouldn't make any goddamn sense because that's just not what James Bond is about. Having James freeze up like a little girl at a critical moment is not something that character would do. It wouldn't make sense. And even if they managed to work PTSD into a Bond story in a meaningful way, it sure as shit wouldn't be done like they handled it in Other M.
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>>134427069 If you knew the difference between real neurology and psychiatry, that post wouldn't be so fucking retarded.
PTSD is not a real disease. Chiara malformation, down syndrome, meningitis, migraines, Alzheimer's, agnosia, etc.
These are all REAL neurological diseases, they all have etiologies, biomarkers, and are proven to exist as real diseases. The same can not be said for imaginary labels given to emotions, personality traits, and behaviors, like PTSD.
Why? Because it's imaginary you fucking moron, birthed by pseudoscience, and perpetuated by pseudoscience and the dumbass people they have indoctrinated along the way.
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One of these days I'm just going to make a Metroid thread and completely ignore any posts besides my own, effectively having a conversation with myself because I'm pretty sure that's the only way ill ever see a decent fucking Metroid thread.
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>>134427191 >hillybilly slut american samus [citation needed] Anonymous
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>>134427278 Don't forget Magic Birds that apparently became gods because they got bored.
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>>134424241 >>134424190 >Good art >Just used for fecal fetish trash Anonymous
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>>134426642 Said people never understood her though, they were always intimidated by her, Adam on the other hand always saw her as a woman and warrior as that picture proved.
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>>134427278 You can't assume that because it's the future means everything can be cured. They still have rampant diseases and such.
Now I'm going to stop here before I get lured into DEFENDING Other M unintentionally....
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>>134421754 >BY THE MIGHTY BEARD OF THOR, THIS IS THE GREATEST ASSEMBLY OF GAMES EVER TIER: >Metroid Prime Trilogy It really is.
It really is...
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>>134427520 Phazon treatment cures PTSD.
PROVE ME WRONG
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>>134427154 It doesn't matter, because everyone heavily implies, including the quacks themselves, that the word disorder is synonymous with real diseases.
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>>134427191 > have shitty opinions > get called out Seriously dude, if you're not trolling, then you really are a pretty worthless person.
You called the US version of Samus a slut as opposed to the JP version. The US version never has her do anything remotely sexual; you're basically identifying her as a "hillbilly slut" because she's self-assured and behaves independently and heroically.
You prefer a woman who talks obsessively about an unsympathetic, domineering man, who ignores her own opinions in lieu of wondering about his... meanwhile she is presented in a skintight suit frequently, and whom is presented to the players with a large dose of "male gaze" and suggestion. And yet that one isn't a slut to you.
If that doesn't make you a misogynist, I don't know what does. I'm 8/10 sure you're just trolling, but there's plenty enough people with that shitty viewpoint to justify gettin' mad over.
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>>134427520 As far as I can remember, no disease has ever been mentioned in the Metroid universe, save for one or two in Prime logs that affect non-sapient lifeforms.
They probably got nanobots and shit to fix whatever is wrong with you.
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>>134427414 OH THAT'S EASY.
They gave Samus a voice. The biggest mistake ever to be created in gaming history, when you take a SILENT protagonist and make him/her talk.
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>>134427605 it's also delicious!
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>>134427605 Hey, if it gives rocks life then sure, can't argue with that.
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>>134427663 Blue raspberry flavored!
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>>134427743 GOES GREAT WITH TACOS
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Not to steer the thread off track now that we're back on PHAZON and I think the trolls have left anyhow but in Prime 3 Samus has to kill her hunter buddies because of CORRUPTION and it's obvious that she's like well, that sucks, but she doesn't have a breakdown over any of them, she explodes them and goes on her way. At the end she reflects on them so you know she isn't a heartless biatch but she knows she did what she had to do because she's fucking Samus Aran and she blows up worlds because why the fuck not>knock knock who's there>samus samus who>SAMUS ARANG THE DOORBELL
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>>134427624 She's not a slut because she never does anything slutty and remains loyal to Adam. Also the hillbilly is a slut and if you've read the comic you'd know this. You feminists are fucking crazy, sexism this, sexism that!
Oh and
>whining about male gaze >for a character who's been in a bikini, one pieces and latex suits for almost all of her career Totally logical bro
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>>134428002 >get proven wrong >call someone autistic I'm sorry you're so fucking retarded and a failure at life.
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>>134428159 Isn't autism a social disorder anyway?
What does it have to do with an argument?
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>>134428091 Interacting with the opposite sex is what makes those disgusting whores the fucking sluts they are.
Prime Samus was alone. All day. Every day. Thus no slut.
Faggot.
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>>134428091 The bikini is a prize to those skilled enough to beat her game quick enough and/or thoroughly enough to earn it. It's historically been a static shot that lasts for maybe a whole of 5 seconds before the "See you next mission!" screen pops up.
Using camerawork that's more at home in porn than in film or vidya cheapens it something fierce.
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I can't believe I just spent two hours arguing about metroid on 4chan, it's two in the morning now fuck you guys, I don't even like metroid games that much
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>>134428189 Who knows? But I hope the retard realizes the irony behind that post. He's on a website, that's centered around otaku culture from both east and west, yet despite this he has the nerve to call someone an autist. Jesus christ the ironing.
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>>134428091 >Also the hillbilly is a slut and if you've read the comic you'd know this. >If you'd read the obscure tangential literature of questionable quality that was only available in a different country you'd know more about why I can justify my sexist beliefs. Totally logical bro
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>>134428159 >look up 2 posts worth of links just to prove a point over the internet >not autistic but you won! that's all that matters right?
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>>134428091 >the american samus is a hillbilly slut! >cites the japanese-only comic Euphytose !!GtnfgjKta8Z
>Kids are asleep >Time resolves around the great mmurikka
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>>134428257 I bet if prime Samus had sex it'd be consensual and she'd enjoy it. therefore, SLUT.
The only Samus I can stand is one slavishly devoted to her master Adam, and hates sex because its gross but she would give it up to make her master happy but she'd probably cry but be happy in the end that she could be devoted to he- AAUGh IM CUMMING
as I was saying, women should exist to be loyal to a man, just like my mom when she made me macaroni
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>>134428512 PROBLEM, BITCH?
USA
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>>134428417 You do realize autism has nothing to do with posting proof, right?
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>>134428257 Never called your waifu a slut, I did call Nintendo of America's Samus a slut though. There's two versions of her however, this is the slutty not as hillbilly one with blonde hair.
the other one has purple hair Anonymous
>>134428525 DID SOMEONE SAY MACARONI?
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The Japanese are notoriously xenophobic and resentful of foreigners. Of course anything that came from a foreign country would be impugned by their obscure, non-canon comic book tie-ins. The people over there make no secret of their dislike for Retro's success with the series.
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>>134427876 Now please, explain to me. If any of that is so called proof that PTSD has any form of etiology, or biomarkers. Or that it is a actual biological disease.
Why is it that the criterion of symptoms used in the CURRENT DIAGNOSTIC PROCESS of PTSD not a indication of any biological illness.
THERE IS NO TEST ON EARTH TO CHECK IF SOMEONE HAS PTSD.
What's that?
There is no test on Earth, yes, not a single test, to check if someone has PTSD. If you go to a doctor, and ask for a test to see if you "have PTSD", the best he can do is give you a questionarre and a "mental evaluation". He can't give you any form of physical test, because one doesn't exist. Why? BECAUSE IT'S NOT A REAL DISEASE YOU FUCKING IDIOT.
It's not a real disease, those links mean nothing. Because it will always come back to the FACT that if you take everyone ever diagnosed with PTSD, you will never find a etiology causing there "symptoms" that they all share, which almost everyone on Earth doesn't also share.
You're a fucking moron if you can't see that those links prove absolutely nothing. I looked at one, and it said they took a bunch of people who were "diagnosed with PTSD" and gave them a questionnaire, ONLY TO FIND OUT THEY HAVE ALOT OF SIMILARITIES.
Ya, that's fucking proof that PTSD is a neurological disease right?
Show me one or more links, that will prove PTSD has actual etiologies that everyone diagnosed with PTSD shares, that nearly everyone on Earth doesn't share.
YOU FUCKING CAN'T YOU GODDAMN MORON.
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>>134417780 Play the FDS version, it has saves etc.
Don't let anyone tell you it's a bad game, far from it. Sure it isn't pretty, but the gameplay has held up remarkably well.
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>>134428632 BECAUSE I'M PRETTY SURE SOMEONE SAID MACARONI!
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>>134428649 You sound worse than a fucking Christian being explained evolution.
Goddammit shut up.
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>>134428512 The first Atomic Clock was American, so yes, it actually does.
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>>134428649 Read the articles you moron, by the way just because modern medicine can't definitively prove it exists it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. People used to think Black Holes were not real and just a theory, yet look at us now we're even tracking them from afar now!
Please kill yourself or go back to /new/ and talk about the jewish conspiracies or whatever you morons do.
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>>134428630 >taking captain n seriou you know what, no, whatever, I'm going to bed, when you have to reach so far as to get captain n involved I can't do it anymore.
>ppopeans prejudices, I don't know what a ppopean is, captcha, but there sure are a lot of prejudices here
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Wow. Five hours later and still Shit Slinging. All because of one Samefag.
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>>134428729 You sound like a fucking moron who has been indoctrinated into believing a bunch of pseudo-scientific bullshit. Seriously, many of those links where 404'd, and none of them proved ANYTHING.
If you had even a ounce of fucking intelligence, you would realize how fucking stupid it is trying to argue that PTSD is a biological disease, and not just a imaginary label given to normal human emotions, personality traits, and behaviors.
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>>134428974 Stop having Metroid threads to avoid autism then
Metroid 2012
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>>134429015 But I'm not arguing that it's a biological disease, I'm arguing that it's a mental DISORDER.
There's a difference you moron, and the only reason why you are arguing is because you failed to realize that.
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>>134429015 No. PTSD is not a biological disease. Its a mental Condition caused by MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF MENTAL TRAUMA AND STRESS! SUCH AS OH I DON'T KNOW SEEING EVERYTHING YOU KNOW AND LOVE GET BURNED TO ASHES! You dense ignoramus.
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>>134429015 >implying people are saying ptsd is a biological disease and not a disorder caused by trauma and mental and emotional damage ain'tevenmad/10
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>>134428649 >Show me one or more links that will prove PTSD has actual etiologies that everyone diagnosed with PTSD shares Uh, it's in the name. Traumatic stress.
And a disease simply means "abnormal condition." A mental disorder is a subsection of that concept.
You're awfully self-righteous for someone who has no understanding of the subject...
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>>134429015 >>134429086 >Still calling someone who disagrees with you autists >Still believing in conspiracy theories instead of science Maybe you should commit pic related and spare us all from your retardation
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>>134429162 Suck my dick. Samus is a silent protagonist with no human bullshit getting in the way of decent gameplay.
Get your bullshit, contrived dickbag nonsense and internally unsupported mental dickery out of the fucking games.
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>>134429286 So let me get the gist of this, you're so mad at Other M you want to prove PTSD is a fictional ailment? Are you listening to yourself? We're not the autists, YOU ARE.
Are you M. Night Shyamalan or something? This is a tweest mind = blown!
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>>134429245 >mfw I just realized that one day I will say "commit sudoku" in real life and sound like an idiot Anonymous
I like this thread better when it was making fun of a japanophile for being sexist also what the fuck at capcha
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>>134429112 >>134429162 Well, then stop calling it PTSD, and start calling it stress, or refer to the specific "symptoms" which are really just emotions, and behaviors, and the way the human body normally works.
When you call it PTSD, you imply that you believe it is a biological disease. The people who fabricated and voted PTSD into existence are pushing the bullshit belief that it is a biological disease. So, ya, you assholes DID say it was a biological disease.
According to psychiatry, there is no difference between the words disorder and biological disease.
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>>134429447 >Japanophile I'm sorry I don't read shitty comics nintendo of america shits out scrub. If I wanted to read real comics I read from pros.
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>>134429565 jokes on you, nobody read the NoA comic except chuckefucks
so I guess thats two comics that I don't give a fuck about. What else you got?
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>>134429543 It's a disease because people with certain genetic markers can acquire it if they're exposed to traumatic events. And as I said we're barely beginning to understand the disease and learning how to detect it. You saying it doesn't exist is like saying Black Holes didn't exist because we were never able to study them and they were just theory.
MORON
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>>134429565 >Shit comics >Post nintendo shit as proof Fuck you. there is not one universe in which that crap that was posted in this thread could be in any way anything but the purest form of anal tearing awful.The dialogue was TERRIBLE. The pacing, posing, staging and story were fucking OFFENSIVE in there sheer, unimaginable crappiness.
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>>134429565 also modern superhero comics are soap opera shit mixed with softcore porn
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>>134429649 One comic is canon which is Sakamoto's comic which is referenced by Fusion HEAVILY. So unless you want to say Fusion is not canon...
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>>134429543 >According to psychiatry, there is no difference between the words disorder and biological disease. Are you a scientologist? Are we to expel the negative Thetans through regular money donations?
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>>134429543 I think I'm going to just leave this argument be, before my brain finally implodes from the vacuum of information causing a dimensional rift in my neurons.
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Why do people care about canon in a series about some blonde in a robot suit killing aliens? It's not very deep.
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>>134429758 That's because you read bad super hero comics and you only read capes as well. You're a casual Otaku in a website full of otaku. How shameful bro, how fucking shameful.
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>>134429771 Wise men say that people that care about canon are worthless nerds Fictional works, by their nature, are not bound by "facts", only the minds of the simple are contained by such things.
There is only good writing, and then there is bad writing. Those comics are a strong example of the latter. That is all that truly matters when discussing the worth of fiction, be it drawn, written, or programmed.
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>>134429672 It's a disease because people with certain genetic markers can acquire it if they're exposed to traumatic events. [citation needed]
ANYONE can acquire the criterion of symptoms used in the diagnostic process of "PTSD" after a traumatic event.
Put anyone through a extremely traumatic event and they will start to suffer those "symptoms".
It's not a real disease. And the black hole analogy is fucking ridiculous and does not fit into this.
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>>134429796 No, I'm not a scientologist, and accusing anyone who doesn't like psychiatry of being a scientologist, in a attempt to insult/discredit them, is a pretty damn weak argument.
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>>134429962 >Wise men say that people that care about canon are worthless nerds Fictional works, by their nature, are not bound by "facts", only the minds of the simple are contained by such things. Bioware GTFO, please just GTFO
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>>134430114 If he were a Bioware employee he'd be for bad writing.
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>>134430114 If Bioware had ignored canon and made something great, nobody would have really cared.
But instead it was shit and awful, so yeah. Plus it was meant to be an entire single story instead of a real "series", so its not so much "canon" as "actual fucking plotline."
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This thread just proves to me this is the worst fucking fanbase on /v/, jesus fucking christ. I mean we have a guy here trying to disprove PTSD is not real because he hates Other M that much, holy fuck that's fucked up.
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>>134430109 "Not liking" psychiatry is about as juvenile and retarded as you can get; I don't think I'm really obligated to dissect the magnitude of your idiocy when you're arguing against the existence of AN ENTIRE BRANCH OF MEDICAL STUDY.
READ A FUCKING BOOK.
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>>134430267 Refer to this you fucking moron.
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>>134430426 Welcome to a Metroid General, enjoy your stay.
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full circle motherfucker, yet again Anonymous Sat 31 Mar 2012 13:39:00 No. 134430695 Report Quoted By:
>>134430540 >science hasn't progressed enough for us to FULLY understand PTSD as a disease yet. Anonymous
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>>134430428 Do you really think psychiatry is actually even apart of the medical field?
You're a fucking idiot. How about this, Thomas Szasz, a psychiatrist, would agree with me that you're a fucking idiot.
Psychiatry has ruined peoples lives, killed people, caused severe birth defects, severe addictions, human rights violations, and a plethora of unethical acts. All for what? To shit all over the line between real neurological diseases, and emotional/behavioral issues?
If you seriously consider psychiatry as a real medical field, that bases there diagnostic processes off science, then you're a fucking moron.
They give children amphetamines for being inattentive and not wanting to focus on things they're uninterested in. Yet, you would defend that as medical science?
They don't use any form of real tests to diagnose people. Just questionnaires and "mental evaluations". And then you get "diagnosed" with a so called biological disease.
Do you know how many people I knew that went to psychiatrists for the sole purpose of "faking" ADD and "social anxiety disorder" to get benzos and amphetamines? People did it all the fucking time.
They don't use real science, they're not real doctors, they're fucking quacks that ruin peoples lives.
Do you know they have entire forums dedicated to people withdrawing from SSRI's and benzos?
Why don't you go there and hear some of there stories, I think you'd be surprised at some of them.
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>>134430426 We are not the same person.
I actually haven't even mentioned one thing about metroid in this thread.
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>>134431156 So by proving you walked into a thread with no contribution, you prove your posts were worthless and that you are indeed a faggot and a stupid child, obviously from europe judging from your time zone.
Go fucking kill yourself.
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>>134431297 He's backpedaling don't let him trick you
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>>134431297 Nope, east coast. 5:55am.
Arguing about psychiatry in a metroid thread.
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>>134431525 I still want him to kill himself for stupid.
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>>134415672 >Metroid has like one manga That was only released in Japan to boot.