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Different reviewers They get the braindead sports reviewer to do the sports game, and he's just happy there's a NEW FIFA YEAH ITS FUN AS SHIT And then you have the spergy pokemon guy, who actually plays games, who knows that pokemon could have innovated any time now, but they just want to release the same fucking game twenty times instead of doing something new and cool like they used to, because pokemon sells no matter what they do
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Hmm, maybe I should have opened with this image.
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it's called bbbbbbbbbrrrribery!
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>>157060320 >And then you have the spergy pokemon guy, who actually plays games, who knows that pokemon could have innovated any time now, but they just want to release the same fucking game twenty times instead of doing something new and cool like they used to, because pokemon sells no matter what they do >implying you know anything about Pokemon 5th gen brought the least amount of innovation, true, but every gen has added loads of features, and they're implemented really well into this title. BW2 looks like it fixes most, if not all, of the glaring issues of the original title.
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Does B&W2 have the same starters as B&W?
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>>157060374 >madden beating vc Anonymous
>>157060827 It has all the same pokemon
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>>157060827 Yes,
sadly . Pretty meh starters, even though I like their designs.
Anonymous
>>157060917 Even the thing where you only meet Gen V ones until you beat the game?
sage
how different is BW2? if im the type of guy who would ignore a "Gray" version, should i ignore this?
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>>157060917 >all the same pokemon I hope you don't mean that the pokemon found ingame are literally the same as BW1.
http://serebii.net/black2white2/unovadex.shtml Anonymous
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Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 basically are designed for fans of the game, it expands the selection of critters in the main game, really opens up the competitive side of things and is basically a giant fanservice game. It's good, but fans will appreciate it the most. The story is significant and continues on from Black/White too, but it's not as "Brave" as the first game, where you weren't allowed to encounter any of the previous 493 species before finishing the game. If anything though Black 2 and White 2 are designed to be kept playing, long after the main game is finished. Much longer than Black/White did.
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>>157061047 Storywise, its an actual sequel with a new story and new characters. As far as I understand, the game itself follows the same pattern of you going through the Unova League (although now the gym leaders are a little different), but there are more towns, changes to old locations, and plenty of new features. There's also a Pokemon World Tournament with old gym leaders and champions.
http://serebii.net/black2white2/ Anonymous
Anyone know if Entralink is back? Loved fucking with my brother with that in BW
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Oh, and here's another example of quality 'reviews'. Feel free to post your own, it's a guilty pleasure of mine to read horrible reviews.
Anonymous
Nintendo didn't give a fuck about paying off any reviewers, it's fucking Pokemon, they know they're going to sell a gorillion copies regardless of scores.
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>>157061047 In other words it's much better than a normal gray version but BW2 is the "gray version" for BW
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>>157061796 does it actually add much more?
if i recall, Platinum just added that weird Dimension area before capturing giratina
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>>157061796 Pretty much.
>>157061608 Also true.
>>157061573 I think so...? Sorry, I've tried my best to avoid reading about BW2 outside of some early info, since I want to play it as spoiler-free as possible. I can't imagine why it wouldn't be there though.
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>>157061926 It actually has a new story. So it's not just a 3rd version with a different mix of pokemon.
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Marginally related question, do you think when the new gen of pokemon comes out on the 3DS they'll abandon 2D sprites and top down view?
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>>157061926 Platinum actually added
>huge number of ingame pokemon (more than any game before) >Battle Frontier >post game overhaul, with loads more end game battles and events/pokemon to find >redone gym battles and Elite 4 overhaul And my favorite
>Upped the battle speed So yeah, Platinum was basically a total overhaul of D/P, while BW2 is more of a focus on being a 'remix' 2 years later, if you will.
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>>157062131 I don't think they'll abandon top-down view, but I do think they'll use 3D models for everything.
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>>157060374 >best action game: True Crime Streets of LA Great Grey Wolf Sif !DIReMoGErg
>>157062131 Apparently Gamefreak has stated many times that they always want to keep the 2D approach, but it would be pretty sweet to see something utilizing the 3D.
Anonymous
>>157060374 Fucking Spike VGAs.
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>>157062392 Is it just me or is the Faux 3D really shitty?
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>>157062392 >That Wailord sprite I laughed harder than I should have.
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>>157062392 mother of god, do you have more of this!? Why can't it be just like this!? What the fuck Gamefreak!
also, lol at that Wailord
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>>157062392 oh man, a pokemon game like that would be amazing,
eh actually it would just be new, everything else would probably be the same.
But just the idea of seeing pokemon fly overhead, giving the world some life you know.
Anonymous
they can give pokemon whatever fucking score they want and it'll still sell eight million copies.
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>>157062392 I just don't like the scaling effects they used in the DS games. If you're going to use sprites, don't fractionally scale them in battle animations.
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>>157062923 This. I liked the idea they had with trying to animate more and make the world feel more dynamic and alive...but they implementation was just bad.
Now, that fucking image is what Black/White SHOULD have been.
Anonymous
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>>157062474 It's kinda meh I suppose, but I just love seeing mockups like that.
>>157062737 Sorry, I wish I did.
>>157062406 Oh God, don't remind me. Isn't the cast of Big Bang Theory hosting the 2012 VGA's?
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>>157062917 That goes the same for CoD/Madden/Fifa.
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>>157062392 Why can't pokemon look like this now?
Anonymous
>>157063154 Nah, Sam Jackson is coming back for the ten year anniversary show.
Anonymous
>>157063317 Because there is no god.
Why couldn't B/W have the pokemon following thing from HG/SS? Why couldn't they have put the menu on the touchscreen like HG/SS?
Why do HMs still exist?
Pokemon could be so AMAZING if they just stretched out just a tiny little bit...
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>>157063323 That's the best we can hope for, I suppose. I bet that also means more Afro Samurai marathons after the show.
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>>157063408 B-but I really can't afford a 3DS nor do I really want one.
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>>157063485 >Why couldn't B/W have the pokemon following thing from HG/SS? Why couldn't they have put the menu on the touchscreen like HG/SS? Different teams did HG/SS and B/W. Hopefully this will be fixed in gen 6, because I loved that feature.
>Why do HMs still exist? Hey, at least they're used well in BW. You only need to Cut one thing in the game, and after that, you don't need to use a single HM move in the story. I like how they're really for side exploration now.
Anonymous
>>157062392 That looks like shit.
Anonymous
>>157063694 Your face looks like shit.
Anonymous
>>157063496 >More Afro Samurai marathons. Will help wash down the shit smoothie that VGA 10 will be, that's for sure. Speaking of which, has /v/ agreed on whether or not to try and make another /v/GAs?
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>>157063743 lol fucking told m8
Anonymous
When's the US/EU release, and how long do you guys suppose it will take before we get the ROM?
Anonymous
Is the BW2 fun enough that I will forgive what they did to the music?
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>>157064043 Sunday for 'MurriKKKa.
Next Friday for Yurop.
Dunno about a ROM, probably in the next few days.
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>>157060374 >TC:SLA beating anything Anonymous
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Fifa is the fucking same game since years, but people still buy the newer ones.
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>Nintendo gigantic coffers >they will never spend more than a small amount on a Pokemon game
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>there will never be a proper pokemon MMO Man, I'd love to see an Pokemon MMO in a 3D toon style (like toon link) with a more active battle system, i.e. control your pokemon in real time, battle moves are cooldown-style moves. You could have worldwide player Elite 4's or tournaments and shit as well. I'm making myself sad just typing this.
Anonymous
>>157062392 that just doesn't have a pleasing look to it
if it looked more like pic related then it would be ok all in all it just sorta reminds me of that megaman x over game
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>>157062392 Damn I would start to play again if it would look like this
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>>157064817 It'd just be another MMO that /v/ would love to shit on.
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Guys, I need to know. Platinum, you could team up with your buddy (WIFI)... I was furious when they took that out of the battle subway, where your friend actually had to be physically there. Does B2W2 implement some kind of wifi again for coop battling Battle Tower style?
Anonymous
Platinum > B&W Black ad White had the most handholding I have ever seen in a plumb video game. It was boring.
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>>157060374 This reminds me that 2004 was a great year for video games.
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>>157064817 The best would be if anyone beats the champion, this gets the new champ and can be fight against other people
Anonymous
>>157064813 The little new music they added is mostly alright, apart from the champ theme which sounds like a fucking anime opening. The "remixes" of other themes are shit.
In general the music suffers from the same problems as B/W1, in that none of the music fitted a central theme, every piece sounded like it was written by a different person. The wild battle was the worst in the game, and you heard it so fucking often.
Anonymous
>>157064817 Shit, they could even make it F2P with a cash shop.
Easy money.
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>>157063278 >reviewed by the guy who gave Street Cleaning Simulator a 1.5 think about this for a second.
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>>157065479 >More F2P MMOs Please dear fucking god no.
Anonymous
>>157065254 Actually the STORY was boring as fuck too. I'm all for trying new stuff, but going from badass take over the world Team Rocket to some faggy PETA message was just...uninspiring.
Things that need to change:
>put the goddamn menu on the goddamn touch screen >pokemon following sprites again >make network crap like C-Gear optional instead of shoving them down our throats >just turn the HM's into TM's already, and keep the unlimited use TM mechanic Anonymous
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>>157063753 /v/ hasn't agreed to anything, but I think the guy who did the last year will repeat this year.
I hope it will be better this year. I liked them, but there were lots of flaws
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waiting furiously on the english roms to hit. Gonna be baller.
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It's cool to hate on Pokemon these days. Oh, but not the old games, because Red and Blue are flawless and nostalgic and nobody could hate them. Just the gay ass new games because they're so confusing with their more than 151 Pokemon and they don't pander to le Reddit audience. XD
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>>157063317 Because handhelds. I'd love to see the main RPGs move to the Wii or WiiU.
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>>157065589 >faggy Peta message Uhh...did you beat the game?
I kind of liked that the PETA guys were all manipulated by a villain who was actually...you know, villainous and sick in the head. Ghetsis is probably the best antagonist in the series, in my opinion. Anonymous
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>>157065026 Ya, that mockup just looks amateurish
Anonymous
>>157061608 This is the real reason. Nintendo doesn't buy off the gaming media.
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>>157065781 Do any of the console manufacturers? I thought it was all the doing of EA/Actiblizz/Konami/etc.
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>>157065694 I think that sort of defeats the whole " carrying, out in the world, monsters in your pocket."
Anonymous
I loved Pokemon Black, first Pokemon game I played since Blue, but holy fuck are the new pokemon designs awful.
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>>157065893 >hating on these glorious bugs Anonymous
>>157065893 It's even worse when you get to the area where you can catch old Gen pokemon.
They just don't mix you know?
Gen I felt right at home all the way up to Gen IV, but now you try to put Gengar next to Chantelirwhatever and it just makes BOTH of them look dumb.
Anonymous
I have bought almost every Pokemon game since the first pair of them came out. I own Red, Silver, Ruby, HeartSilver, Platinum, Pearl, and White. I've never beaten any of them besides Red. I will probably never buy a Pokemon game again. Cause nothing has changed. They think that introducing new gym leaders and a new world makes a difference?
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Video game reviewers are fucking idiots. Not pokemon, but I remember specifically that DMC3 Special Edition got a lower review than vanilla DMC3, even though it is literally the same game with more stuff.
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>>157066049 >gen 4 I'm sorry, but Gen 4 probably had some of the weakest designs in the series.
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>>157065694 People who say pokemon should move to consoles are the dimbest of the dumb
Seriously
Pokemon is and always will be a handheld game
It revolves around the idea of meeting with your friends and playing together,
Going on adventures and seeing the world
It was created from the start to be a handheld game, and it is THE handheld game
Babbys like you who cry for grafics are ruining videogames
Please leave
Anonymous
To those interested in a 3D pokemon game, you can get a taste from the new mystery dungeon
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>>157066082 It's time for a full on Pokemon MMO
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>>157066082 >Cause nothing has changed. You know nothing, Jon Snow.
Anonymous
>>157066152 >Jewnosemon You want to compare that to Garbodoor and VanillaIce?
Anonymous
>>157066049 >>157065996 I laughed my ass off when the new pokemons were fucking Icecones and Trashbags. That was hilarious.
Anonymous
>>157066152 Agreed. but d/p/pt were still the best games. design is just one part of the big picture.
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http://www.destructoid.com/review-mario-kart-7-216484.phtml jim sterling reviews mario kart 7
>"as derivative as a game can get" >"an unadventurous and predictable retread" >4.5/10 jim sterling reviews call of duty MW3
>"there are no major revelations or surprises, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 treads familiar ground and focuses on tweaking rather than reinventing, and that's just fine." >9.5/10 video game journalism is shit.
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>>157066184 As long as the ending feels are still there I'm fine with it
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>>157066282 I'd say that Gen 5 was stronger overall. I'm going to post all the new Pokemon added in Gen IV (not including evolutions to existing pokemon)...
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>>157066308 They had an excellent story, dat alternate void nightmare world...
I'm fairly certain that Platinum is the Pokemon game with the highest number of Pokemon from all Gens (except V) you can catch in any one single game too.
Anonymous
>>157066220 Explain what has changed with the core gameplay in the last 10 years for the handheld series besides different gym leaders, which don't change anything in the gameplay, or new worlds which feel the fucking same. The game is casual as fuck.
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>>157066184 Better have other gen pokemon as starters
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>>157066297 >Garbodor >not the best Great Grey Wolf Sif !DIReMoGErg
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>>157066421 ....and then the new pokemon introduced in Gen 5.
Every gen has its fair share of weirdos, but I think 5th gen hit far more often than it missed.
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>>157066514 Nope. Apparently Pikachu is the mandatory starter. Anonymous
>>157066494 They added hard mode in BW2. I mean, that's gotta mean something right? Though it was implemented kind of gay like.
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>>157066184 will there be homolust like in Explorer of Sky?
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>>157066184 I really like what they're doing in 3D in Pokémon, even the Poképark games have charming visuals.
Really looking forward to Mystery Dungeon 3D. And I actually enjoyed Super Pokémon Rumble on the 3DS more than I should have.
Anonymous
>Beat Pokemon White >you never once fight the Champion of the Elite Four
Anonymous
>>157066358 FUCK YOU NIGGER PIECE OF GARBAGE
POKEMON IS MORE THAN A GAME
AND VP IS THERE FOR NON GAME RELATED POKEMON DISCUSSION
IE ANIME, TOYS, WHATEVER
SO GO TO HELL AND DIE
POKEMON GAME DISCUSSION IS VIDYA RELATED
ITS THE ONLY VIDYA RELATED THREAD ON THE BOARD
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>>157066494 >EV's revamped >Breeding >Hold items >Natures >Abilities >Physical/Special split >Weather And that's just to the battle system, and that still isn't everything. You couldn't possibly be more wrong about this.
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Pokemon does feel old as shit though. They can't even change up the plot/progression much, if at all, game to game. Anymore with new pokemon they are just releasing ones that stack up to previous ones.
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>>157066514 >>157066605 Nah man, no lies.
Actually your choice of starter is a bit limited compared to the previous games, you get Pikachu, Snivy, Tepig, Oshawott and Axew.
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>>157066763 Its a difference
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>>157066763 Uhh...you fight him in the post game. Plus, the E4 actually get decent teams.
Anonymous
>>157066779 No, /vp/ was made to get any and all pokeshit off of /v/
If we let this one thread stick around, then someone will post another one when this one dies, and so on until the pokeshit is all over /v/ again
Anonymous
>>157066640 Hard mode? Okay, great. Not exactly remarkable, but okay.
It still took them fucking 10 years to do something new that wasn't half-assed.
What does hard mode entail in Pokemon? And if it's just allowing all trainers to use items or a nuzlocke-like rip-off then whoopdy doo.
Anonymous
>>157066809 I just realized that most of those changes are ten+ years old at this point.
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>>157066763 >Stop playing halfway through >wtf wheres the final boss Anonymous
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>>157066874 Axeface master race reporting in
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>>157066930 >post game That is, by definition, AFTER beating the game.
Anonymous
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>>157066936 >No, /vp/ was made to get any and all pokeshit off of /v/ Funny, I thought it was because /b/tards were crying about pokemon threads taking away space from their dubs threads.
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>>157059426 >These sequels feel a lot like the gray we expected Haha, yeah, do you remember that pokemon yellow, crystal, emerald and platinum were sequals as well to their original versions?.............oh wait
Anonymous
>>157066809 As someone who has participated in these discussions countless times, I can tell you here and now that you're never going to convince them. They're going to handwave the changes as "minor mechanics improvements" or "shit only tourneyfags care about."
Just quit while you're ahead.
Anonymous
Yeah, I took issue with that specific review too. He said the game added new systems but scored it down for being too samey. Well B&W got decent scores while expanding upon exactly nothing so what gives? Is it the number 2?
>>157060498 Also, I don't think this happens all that much for major publications.
>inb4 IGN that's not a publication. IGN, Kotaku and those will lie all day every day. GI and Giantbomb are really who I trust. and you need to know how to read GI, they're very corporate.
Anonymous
>>157059426 >Fifa/PES being the same every year. If you guys actually played this games with friends (Real friends! on local multiplayer!) you would know that including the roster updates and skill increase/decrease for some players. Each itteration plays the same, but it has a lot new of elements that change the game.
For example I played the new PES 2013 and it already plays different than PES 2012, the passes to the empty side of the field fells better and is harder to make a good pass, the high pass to the empty side of the field was really improved and a lot of other shit that I couldn't just tell with only a game.
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Gen 3 was the best gen
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>>157066989 Except that it's the true ending to the game, seeing as how it triggers the credits again. I kind of like how they did it, even if Alder had a pretty weak team.
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>>157067040 Pretty much. Separating /vp/ from /v/ was the last nail in the
Koffing. Anonymous
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>>157060537 >you will never have an effective ice team Anonymous
>>157067040 No, it's because all of us non autists don't give a fuck about babbys first RPG and all the stupid ass porn you faggots are compelled to post
Anonymous
>>157067064 We have to be honest. Some of those things have zero bearing on the game outside of the hardcore scene.
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>>157067119 Imagine if pokemon did that
>Pokemon red VII >still same 151 pokemon with some stat changes Anonymous
>>157060945 I wish Bel was the main rival. Her story could have been so much better if that fag Cheren wasn't there too. You could have watched her grow and develop as a trainer and get stronger and more confident, but halfway through she just goes "Whelp I'm worthless time to drop off the face of the earth."
Then Cheren comes fagging around, whining about
>"What is strong? Why do I want to be strong? What does it all mean?" GO AWAY CHEREN BIANCA IS BETTER THAN YOU
Anonymous
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>>157067064 Eh, figured it was worth a shot. Thanks for the heads up, Hank.
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>>157061008 no
other gen pokemon everywhere
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>>157067204 Yeah, okay, but nice 4. Check my 7.
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>>157067273 Bianca was fanastic and had an actual character arc. Plus she has a pretty great team outside of not utilizing items.
Cheren is just bleh. And he adds a Outrage spamming Haxerous to take his jerkitude up to 11.
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>>157066494 Abilties, the Physical/Special split, etc.
Not to mention that, as a competitive multiplayer game, just the addition of new Pokemon and moves drastically changes up how the game is played.
Anonymous
>>157066809 This
>>157066957 one speaks the truth. And while those are things that were added in the older sequels (Most notably EV and such, those weren't in red/blue/yellow right?) I still feel that the core gameplay, (travelling the world you're in, pokemon battles) remain very unchanged. And they're the most you'll be doing with the game.
And while all these things are definitely notable I will admit, how many casual players (For example, the demographic the games are aimed at) actually know about most of this? The game is targeted towards children, we can admit that right? It's a easy to get into game, but has plenty of potential for MUCH more, right? Most people don't know, nor give a shit about all that. Hell, I've played every single Pokemon game in the main series at least once, and I don't even know much about natures, abilities, breeding, or EV/IV system.
I don't think a lot of those things change the core gameplay, which as I said before, is traversing the world, and pokemon battles. They took a step in the right direction with black and white with the animation idea! But that was VERY lazily done. And it STILL doesn't change the core gameplay.
Anonymous
>ice is still a shitty type once they fix this I will have 3 boners
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>>157066726 >It doesn't add enough new things, so it's automatically a worse game! Fuck that noise. Also, I liked SM64DS more than SM64.
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>>157066874 all the normal starters from past MD will still be there, they only showed Gen V pokemon because its Gen V you tard. Anonymous
>>157067516 Most people don't notice those things. They don't have any real impact on the game unless you are doing tournament play.
Anonymous
>>157067064 .... well, isn't that what it is? You can play a Pokemon game and only catch Pokemon you think are cute/cool with no research whatsoever on them, and still beat the game, right? Don't you think that's how most kids do it? It's how I did it when I was a kid.
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>>157067550 Weavile with the right moveset will wreck shit, bro.
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>>157067516 They're that old because Gamefreak doesn't crank out a new gen every year. Every single gen has changed things up substantially, so I don't really understand what you're driving at.
>Most people don't know, nor give a shit about all that. That's great though; simple to learn, difficult to master. Pokemon is a family friendly series that embodies the best traits of casual gaming; developing a series that has something for everyone.
Anonymous
>>157067250 And the more involved hardcore scene is beginning to be more and more relevant in the games. You start seeing tourney strategies and movesets and items constructed for improving breeding and training yields. Gamefreak is changing the core mechanics to support more strategy oriented combat.
However what they really need to do is completely revamp base stats in 6th gen so we don't have such a horrible power creep and shitty Pokemon like Farfetch'd and Luvdisc sitting on their asses.
Anonymous
Because pokemon is a cash cow, one that needs little nuturing. So even if you give it shit reviews it will still sell well. Unlike COD and sports games pokemon is not resource heavy in development or advertising (sustainment of the IP is a whole other matter)at all or at least compared to the likes of COD. And since it needs little glowing reviews scores to help it appeal to a wider audience there is no need to rate it so high.
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>>157067703 >only catch Pokemon you think are cute/cool with no research whatsoever on them, and still beat the game, right? Yep. Without any real effort beyond just playing the X beat Y game everyone does.
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>>157067250 It would if they were less lenient about raising ineffective pokémon.
Just basic knowledge about natures alone, and if a pokémon is a physical attacker, special attacker, defender, etc, really makes a difference.
Your standard kid will have a level 100 starter and legendary and pseudo-legendary and so on, and think it's enough to land super-effective hits. They will probably have shit natures and know moves that are ineffective because they don't use the pokémon's better offensive stat (Hydro pump on Gyarados).
Physical/Special attacks is the same damn thing as warriors and magic casters in other RPGs. Don't give your best sword to a magic caster, don't have your muscle man try and use spells.
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>>157067778 >Farfetch'd and Luvdisc They're deliberately bad though.
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>>157067516 Pokemons targetted at all age ranges
Anonymous
>>157067751 You can play through and dominate a pokemon game the exact same way today as you could with red and blue just by doing type matching.
Anonymous
>>157067726 I think Weavile's niche was revenge killing Garchomp, and it doesn't really need to do that any more.
Anonymous
>>157067778 >And the more involved hardcore scene is beginning to be more and more relevant in the games How? Their features are still invisible/mostly invisible to people who don't know they are there.
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>>157067968 >revenge killing garchomp dude what
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>>157067697 That's basically what I'm saying. The demographic the game is aimed at doesn't know nor HAVE TO care about any of these things.
>>157067751 While every game tries to present something new to the series, (Well, okay not EVERY GAME) like I said before; nothing changes with the core gameplay. Battling is still exactly the same as it was with red/blue, minus a few minor things. The core turn-based, tile-travelling mechanics are the same as they were in red/blue. While it sells well, and it's very successful, it's insubstantial and irrelevant to me at this point. I can pretty much say that if you've played one Pokemon game in the main series, you've played them all.
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>>157067830 ...so this justifies high scores to sports/CoD over pokemon how? You didn't give any reasons, just your opinion on WHY.
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>>157067950 And that's a bad thing how? Pokemon has never been known for its difficulty (Although Platinum and BW had a number of tough stuff postgame), and if you try that in multiplayer you'll get stomped.
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>>157067879 Kids know how to do the type matching. That is literally all they need to blow through these games.
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>>157060374 I enjoyed Streets of LA at the time but it was fuck ridden with bugs and poor mechanics and one granny could instakill you by punching you over and over without letting you move.
Anonymous
>>157067879 To be fair the singleplayer does not, and has never required you to pay attention to IVs and natures to basically 100% it.
Anonymous
>>157068103 I'm just pointing out that the gameplay for regular people has remained unchanged from inception. For tournament players it has evolved, but for the regulars it is the same thing that rewards them for doing the same thing over and over and over.
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>>157068048 >Battling is still exactly the same as it was with red/blue, minus a few minor things. You're glossing over content and features simply because they're not mandatory ingame. The core gameplay isn't something that NEEDS to change; there are pokemon spinoff titles for that sort of thing. What, do you want Gen 6 to suddenly throw everything away and switch to real time battles?
Anonymous
>>157068031 Natures now highlight what stats they improve and what stats they hurt, there are now EV checking NPCs, EVs are totalled by NPCs, various items affect nature passing or breeding.
Anonymous
>>157068352 We are talking about the vast majority of players, not the hardcore tourney scene. The features you are talking about are INVISIBLE or have too little impact to matter to anyone but the hardcore in the base game, which is all the vast majority cares about.
Anonymous
>>157068418 $5 says these are still only used by the hardcore because recatching pokemon for stat management and grinding specific battles for EVs is beyond regular players.
Anonymous
>>157065739 This.
Also, I liked fighting against villains who actually believed in something a bit more grounded than EXPANDING THE GOD DAMN SEA. Especially when they kinda had a point - pokémon are forced to fight to the point of exhaustion everyday by trainers whose lives are not similarly endangered.
Great Grey Wolf Sif !DIReMoGErg
>>157068474 >We are talking about the vast majority of players, not the hardcore tourney scene. Yes, and?
>The features you are talking about are INVISIBLE or have too little impact to matter to anyone but the hardcore in the base game, which is all the vast majority cares about. Natures and abilities are not invisible. EV's can be tracked ingame. Breeding is hardly invisible, especially since its available after the 1st gym in BW.
Just because not everyone utilizes these features does not mean that they are not present, or somehow worth less.
Anonymous
>>157068418 If you do not already know their purpose, the EV NPCs and items are completely unexplained. Even nature highlighting doesn't tell you what the two colors even mean.
Anonymous
>>157068665 Fighting Green Peace in Pokemon ruby/Sapphire really turned me off of things.
Give me real bad guys, not hippies.
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>>157067070 Bozon once posted on the ign boards that at ign it basically works like this: a company would give them a shit ton of money so they exclusive review if they give the game like 9.5, then ign would play the game and if they can give it 9.5 they'd take the money and run the review, if the game sucks they just would turn down the exclusive rights.
Anonymous
>>157068274 And to add to that, there are probably 10 casual players for every 1 tourney player.
>>157068352 I'm glossing over content that I can guarantee you that the average Pokemon player doesn't care about. I didn't say it needs to switch to real-time battles. I'm not saying I know what's best for the series. All I'm saying is that the game has not done anything exceptional with its core mechanics since its inception. YOU are denying that, and crediting little features Game Freaks has added into the game, and disregarding that I'm talking about CORE MECHANICS. Which are, may I remind you again, the same turn-based gameplay which as not changed at all, and the tile-moving overworld.
Anonymous
>>157068684 You clearly stopped reading that sentence at invisible.
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>>157068729 >Red - stat up >Blue - stat down It's always been that way. And you're really kind of grasping at straws for some of these.
Anonymous
>>157068789 You are being way too generous to the tourney scene. It is probably more like 25:1 at the absolute best, 75:1 being more reasonable.
Anonymous
>>157068820 In what way? If the EV system isn't explained to a player then they have no idea what they are doing with it.
Anonymous
>>157068820 I consider myself a tourney player. How do you possibly expect the average player to attain any knowledge of the inner workings of the game based on what the poorly explained tools it provides?
Anonymous
>>157067879 To give you an idea about why shit like natures, IVs and EVs matter.
Where's what shit does:
Nature boosts one stat by 10%, and reduce another stat by 10%. There are 25 different natures, 5 of which do not boost or reduce a stat and 0 of which influence the HP stat.
IVs are fixed when a pokémon is created. Ranging from 0 to 31, can boost a pokémon's stat by 31 points at level 100 BEFORE nature calculation.
If you have any idea how to you can manipulate these through breeding.
EVs are like experience points in that they are earned, except they are invisible. Defeating certain pokémon will cause specific stats to grow. Careful planning makes it possible for a stat to be 63 points higher at level 100, BEFORE nature calculation.
And now for some figures.
Hardy nature does not change any stats.
Adamant nature increases the Attack stat by 10%, and reduces the Special Attack stat by 10%. It is a good choice for physical attackers who do not use special attacks.
Flygon Lvl 100 - Hardy Nature, 0 IVs 0 EVs - 205 Attack
Flygon Lvl 100 - Adamant Nature, 0 IVs 0EVs - 225 Attack
Flygon Lvl 100 - Hardy Nature, 31 IVs, 0EVs - 236 Attack
Flygon Lvl 100 - Adamant Nature, 31 IVs 0 EVs, - 259 Attack
Flygon Lvl 100 - Hardy Nature, 0 IVs 252 EVs - 268 Attack
Flygon Lvl 100 - Adamant Nature, 0 IVs 252EVs - 294 Attack
Flygon Lvl 100 - Hardy Nature, 31 IVs 252 EVs - 299 Attack
Flygon Lvl 100 - Adamant Nature, 31 IVs, 252 Evs - 328 Attack
Great Grey Wolf Sif !DIReMoGErg
>>157068816 And you clearly have a huge issue with generalizations and assumptions.
Regardless of how you PERSONALLY feel, Pokemon has improved and added significant features every gen, even if they're not what YOU want.
Anonymous
>>157068992 Now explain why this matters to the non tourney crowd who can just use type matching to beat whatever they want.
Anonymous
>>157068237 Did I even mention IVs in that post?
Yes the single player game is designed that even the incompetent player can beat it, I'm just saying if you want to play it properly, acknowledge the effects of natures and know what your pokémon can do.
Anonymous
>>157069019 >Regardless of how you PERSONALLY feel, Pokemon has improved and added significant features every gen, even if they're not what YOU want. I didn't say anything like this.
You are just making it more obvious that you aren't reading what other people are typing and just responding automatically. Banana Boat.
Anonymous
>>157069019 You mean like nothing truly substantial to the core-gameplay? Yeah, that's about right.
Anonymous
>>157069180 What counts as properly for single player?
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>>157068418 Just came to say that BW2 got a store that max your EVs for a price
Anonymous
>>157069019 When the vast majority of players is not even aware of these features, how are they significant?
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>157068992 >>157069114 Basically what this illustrates is that EVs make up 66.6% of a pokémon's maximum potential, and IVs can make up that remaining 33.3% for a 100% total. Natures can then bump that 100% up to 110%.
But also things like a hardy pokémon with great IVs does better than an adamant pokémon with shit IVs.
All this shit only really matters if you're trying to make the best pokémon possible, for competitive play, Battle Frontier, Subway, etc.
For in-game, find a pokémon with an appropriate nature, fill it up on vitamins, and know what its role is. And you'll do great.
Actually more than anything, you'd do worse just to give pokémon the wrong moves.
Don't be a dumbass and stick strength on an Alakazam, Dragon Pulse on a Haxorus, Hydro Pump on a Gyarados.
Literally all it takes is to look at the pokémon's status screen, observe if it has a higher physical or special attack stat, and give it moves accordingly.
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>>157069212 When all you're doing is judging everything from the perspective of a fictional, generalized audience, its tough to take what you're saying seriously, especially when you seem to be handwaving everything that's being said.
>>157068971 ....ingame, every stat buff is red, every debuff is blue.
>>157068789 >Which are, may I remind you again, the same turn-based gameplay which as not changed at all, and the tile-moving overworld. >has not changed at all Alright, you're really missing the point, so I'm going to stop.
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>>157069257 In pokémon: Just landing super effective hits
In most other RPGs: Using characters effectively and not teaching them the wrong shit.
Anonymous
>>157069361 I don't care if that is all that it takes. It doesn't change the fact that most people who play Pokemon don't know about/give a shit about it.
Anonymous
>>157067778 Luvdisc should have really evolved into Alomomola though, I mean seriously.
As for Farfetch'd...
Fighting/Flying HP - 75 ATK - 95 DEF - 70 SP.ATK - 60 SP.DEF - 90 SPD - 85 New base stat total: 475 Now learns fighting moves like Brick Break and Close Combat by level up. Brave Bird as an egg move. Super Luck/Sniper as regular abilities with Defiant still kept as it's hidden. New Move: Leek Swipe Power: 60 Type: Fighting/Physical Enrages the foe so it can only use attack moves. PP:15What do you think?
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>>157069476 And that is a bad thing...why, exactly?
Again, Pokemon is family friendly; its designed for everyone. The depth is there, it just isn't mandatory.
Anonymous
>>157069514 Staraptor would still be better
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>>157069447 >You are still running off on what you IMAGINED I wrote and not what I ACTUALLY wrote. Also
>Pokemon general audience being kids who just typematch and derp around >Fictional You are delusional.
Anonymous
>>157069447 >a fictional, generalized audience, What do you think the majority of pokemon players are like?
Anonymous
>>157069514 too slow
could use some more attack too since it would be the only fighting flying
Anonymous
>>157069447 >im missing the point NOOOOO nonono. I think YOU'RE missing the point, kid.
>>157069345 >>157069332 >>157069253 >>157069212 >>157069114 >>157068974 >>157068971 >>157068910 >>157068816 >>157068729 >>157068574 This is a FRACTION of the posts against your retarded levels of stubbornness. I'm not missing any point. You're just refusing to acknowledge that 90% of the people who play Pokemon don't give a shit about any of the features you just mentioned, and none of them change the core gameplay. You are the only person in this thread right now who is arguing against this fact. You're making it really hard to keep up my assumption that you are not just some pokefag who can't admit that his favorite franchise is the same fucking thing that it was when it first came out.
Great Grey Wolf Sif !DIReMoGErg
>>157069806 Kids who just want to derp around with pokemon. And that's fantastic that they can, but to say LOL POKEMON HASNT CHANGED BCUZ I CAN STILL TEAR THROUGH IT WITH MY STARTER is just ludicrous.
Anonymous
>>157070052 They were saying that pokemon hasn't changed much for anyone who isn't a hardcore tourney player.
That is true.
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>>157068084 The point is since it doesn't need postive peer marketing by reviewers much, you are getting a fairly honest but shallow in depth review of the games. As opposed to COD where the reviewer must make a spectacle of it (since it pays the bills depending on the site) and will inflat the score of the review a bit more. So you will likely get an in depth (in relation to the actual content) but fairly dishonest review of it.
It takes more time to assess a pokemon game than a sport or call of duty game. Thus investment in reviewing it is shallow compaired to other games. With pokemon you are getting a "on the surface" score.
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>>157069976 >kid Ahh, the last resort of the nitwit.
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Because Pokemon is now a joke.
Anonymous
>>157070052 Explain to me how its perfectly reasonable and innovative that you can play the newest Pokemon game the same way you played the very first one 12 years ago.
>>157069976 Well maybe if you'd acknowledge our points, you wouldn't be a kid, kid. See, like you just did. You looked at one word. Also,
>>157070052 >kids Hypocritical faggot.
The Devil Wears Prada !!Zpbv5wJtXv2
>>157065996 Black was good for bugs. moreso than any game.
Great Grey Wolf Sif !DIReMoGErg
>>157070376 >Hypocritical faggot. I was using kids to describe literal children, you mouthbreather.
Why would I want to waste time discussing something with someone who has no reading comprehension? You don't deserve my time.
Great Grey Wolf Sif !DIReMoGErg
>>157070423 Seriously; some of the best Bug pokemon ever.
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>>157066956 Trainers have additional pokemon, better movesets, and actually try to win.
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>>157070613 You don't discuss things with anyone who actually shuts you down.
Like
>>157070117 Anonymous
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>>157069659 >>157069912 It's supposed to be gimmicky, it could have a +3 critical strike ratio with Leek and Super Luck.
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>>157070613 Yeah, that was my bad. I read the comment before, but kinda jumped on it without thinking after seeing it again. You got me there, and I sincerely apologize for not paying better attention But, yet again, you've disregarded EVERY POINT I've made, and instead just went "lol didnt read". Got something to say? Why don't you refute my points?
>>157069976 Go ahead. Prove to me you can do it, if you think you're correct. If Pokemon really has innovated the core mechanics of its game in the past 10+ years that is relevant to the majority of its players, now's your time to prove it.
Anonymous
>>157068684 >>157069976 >>157070052 >dark souls doesnt explain shit >is hailed as a great game for letting the player learn themselves >pokemon has in depth mechanics which arent explained to the player >this makes it a baby game aimed at casuals V logic at its finest
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>>157070682 >escavilier >scoliosis >monmothma I had those niggas in my team straight amazing
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>>157071404 That wasn't the argument. Try reading.
Anonymous
>>157071542 >scoliosis my sides
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>>157071404 the difference is that dark souls expects you to learn to play the game, and expects you to man up for it. that game is not meant for the casual crowd. pokemon is. and dark souls changed a hell of a lot from demons souls.
Anonymous
>>157068048 > I can pretty much say that if you've played one Pokemon game in the main series, you've played them all. You can.
That doesn't make it true.
The Devil Wears Prada !!Zpbv5wJtXv2
>>157071689 Yeah I barely played the game. Do not remember any names.
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How did Fifa get 8/10. Are games reviewed within their genre, or all games? Because if it's reviewed and compared with other genres, A game about football that hasn't really changed at all over the years shouldn't really be worthy of 8/10. I mostly don't trust reviews or consult in other peoples opinions because I ain't no sheep.
Anonymous
>>157072157 Scolipede and Volcarona
You got Escavalier right though
Anonymous
>>157072105 but... it is true.
Anonymous
>>157069976 They've changed and added dozens of new mechanics.
The fact that you're a retard who refuses to acknowledge this doesn't change this fact.
Tell me, jackass, what "core mechanic" could they change without it NO LONGER BEING POKEMON.
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>>157072336 No it's not you idiot.
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>>157071542 >Scoliosis That's gold
Mellow
>>157068048 Once you've played one Final Fantasy you've played them all, once you've played one Mario you've played them all, once you've played one 3D Zelda you've played them all, etc.
This holds for ANY FUCKING SERIES.
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But there's almost three times the content that was in the original B/W. Game Freak knows they fucked up a bit, and this one is going to be great.
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>>157072369 >dozens of new mechanics. Not him, but please, show me dozens of new mechanics.
Minimum 24.
Anonymous
>>157072480 Oh look, you're still here.
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>>157059426 Gaming Journalists are faggots
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>>157072617 Why wouldn't I be? I'm just relaxing and playing video games.
Anonymous
>>157072369 im not nintendo, i don't have an answer for that. you and i both know that regardless of what i think, the game is going to be just as successful as its always been. but if they want my money, or the majority of people who saw that pokemon has not changed in 12 years, they need to do something new with that turn-based system, or travel.
Anonymous
>>157072509 Not every series can be broken down like this.
You start off in a small town where you meet a pokemon professor from whom you get either a grass, fire, or water pokemon. You will then get a pokedex and go off on an adventure to beat 8 themed gym leaders so that you can then battle the elite 4 and become the pokemon champion. Along the way you repeatedly battle your rival and an organization that is doing generally bad things.
Which pokemon game am I talking about?
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>>157072754 So in other words you don't want it to be Pokemon.
Because Pokemon is, at it's core:
A turn based JRPG in which your party members are monsters you capture.
In other words, if you don't want Pokemon to be Pokemon anymore.
Glad we answered that faggot. So shut up and go away.
Anonymous
>>157072836 You're mistaking "story" with "gamplay mechanics"
The story of the game just provides a context for the fights you're doing/
Anonymous
nice job giving up on the argument tripfag. even after i apologized and admit i fucked up. you sicken me. i need to go to work anyway.
Mellow
>>157072836 But I thought the complaints were that the battle system was always the same? What is wrong with the story setup? What do you want, a game where you're Team Rocket and commit crimes or something?
That would be so awesome Great Grey Wolf Sif !DIReMoGErg
>>157072754 >or the majority of people who saw that pokemon has not changed in 12 years, they need to do something new with that turn-based system, or travel. Why? There are a number of successful spinoff games with varying gameplay shifts; they don't 'need' to radically shift the gameplay of the main series for the sole purpose of being like "yea lol its new so its better".
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>>157072998 >that mad I can picture you mashing F5 furiously.
Anonymous
Any Hilda/Mei smut in this thread; I'm too lazy to check
Anonymous
>>157072836 What does that have to do with the battle system? You're confusing multiple issues here.
Anonymous
>>157072985 >>157073000 Add
During your battles you will achieve victory by utilizing type advantage to deal super effective blows to your enemies.
There, now it applies to every game again.
Anonymous
>>157068750 You don't realize that you are the bad guy in that game. You torture innocent animals just for your own fun and pleasure.
You and all of your like should be hanged in Alabastia! Leave the pokemon alone.
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>>157073195 In every pokemon game you just use type matching to win anyway. This has never changed.
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>>157072296 He was legitimately on my team. Bug Steel is one of the GOAT combos. It's like Water Ground
Anonymous
>>157073205 >during every Mario game, you have to utilize jumping Anonymous
>>157073131 No, just a tripfag arguing with some anons over shit nobody cares about, the usual. Move along, nothing to see here.
Keep dumping, give me something to see here Anonymous
Anonymous
I stopped giving a shit after gen 3. They still are 2D? Wow. At least Mario went 3D.
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>>157073271 They fight with pokemon too...
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>>157073290 Using mario games as a counterexample to this argument is not the best choice.
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>>157062392 Look at this shit.
Seriously look at it.
How fucking hard is it to make Pokemon look GOOD. No, we have to keep using the same fucking character art from Red/Blue.
Motherfuckers. Even these little shits on /v/ whenever they talk about pokemon they go "THEY DON'T CHANGE IT BECAUSE IT WORKS!"
Well, how about they strive for something that's fucking BETTER.
Well, who gives a shit, they can wipe their asses on a napkin, make a sprite out of it and sell it like the most motherfucking delicious hotcakes ever made, even if it's just bread. With ONE slice of cheese. But not the good kind.
Anonymous
>>157073306 I live to serve
Mellow
>>157073290 >during every FPS, you have to utilize shooting >during every turnbased JRPG, you have to utilize pressing X Anonymous
>>157073287 But... but...
Fire and Grass
Not hating on your favorites(Escavalier looks pretty baller), but anything with a 4x weakness I tend to avoid.
Anonymous
Anonymous
tl;dr i wish pokemon games had an option to disable all pokemon from previous gens
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>>157073557 >tfw the guy who made Faithful Tepig 1/2 got in trouble with the law and we'll never get an ending. Anonymous
Anonymous
>>157073462 During every pokemon game you use one of your pokemons 4 moves in a turn based system where your 4 options are always the same and the fights always revolve around type advantage.
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>>157073486 They really only have that weakness though, and you can just swap out against types like that. You can stay in against the vast majority.
>>157073619 I really liked how you only had the new pokemon in BW until you beat the game
Anonymous
>>157073674 Mei=Hilda>May>Misty>Dawn
Prove me wrong
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>Pokemon designs are shit >The women are getting better Can't complain
Anonymous
>>157073619 I wish they just stopped making new pokemon. They're just digging themselves a bigger hole.
Or, you know, it WOULD be a bigger hole if they ever intended on doing anything more than those shitty little sprites, that after all this time, all they got is some crappy animations where they scale and rotate parts of their bodies.
Anonymous
>>157073682 Battles look samey but they have a bit more to it than that. Well, at least competitively.
I wish they would update the fucking objectives of the game.
COLLECT 8 BADGES
DEFEAT ELITE 4
DEFEAT RIVAL
DEFEAT EVIL ORGANIZATION
Give me a fucking break.
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Man, the last pokemon game I liked was emerald. I kind of wanted to get into Black/White but couldn't even though I love how it looks and I adore the designs of the trainers. I only like the design of the female trainer in B/W2
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I was always a huge fan of Pokemon since I started playing Gold I was going to skip on B&W2 anyway in favor of the inevitable generation III remakes, so I really don't give a shit
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>>157073989 No. They'll never stop cutting and pasting. NEVER!
Anonymous
>>157059426 JOURNALISM is a joke.
Not just gaming
Anonymous
>>157073789 /r/ing that one piece of Hilda crying by the window
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>>157073852 >Or, you know, it WOULD be a bigger hole if they ever intended on doing anything more than those shitty little sprites, that after all this time, all they got is some crappy animations where they scale and rotate parts of their bodies. FUCK THAT SHIT
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>>157074084 You don't have to tell me
Anonymous
>>157073989 The problem is that if they changed anything they they'd risk pissing off other fans, so they just play it safe
If you want something different, then play the spinoffs, Pokemon Conquest and Mystery Dungeon truly are great games
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I don't give a single fuck about how the game looks, and I'm satisfied with the gameplay, but I WOULD like better characterization and story. Almost every character feels like wasted potential. BW was a step in the right direction, but we're still not there yet. I'm excited for Generation VI because they've proven that they're at least starting to try a little with V.
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>>157074127 jesus fuck someone call the medics her ass got out of the place!
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>>157073315 0/10
3D doesn't mean better.
Mellow
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>>157074254 Basically this. If they wanted to change the core formula, their chance was at 3rd gen since gold/silver was a direct sequel to red/blue. Now any big changes would have too much of a fan backlash.
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>>157074254 >they'd risk pissing off other fans The sales aren't going anywhere. Changing the story elements for once in fifteen years won't drive anyone away.
Anonymous
>>157073789 Hilda is B2/W2 and Mei is B/W right?
>tfw way behind Anonymous
>>157074517 Other way around
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>>157074517 Other way around
>capcha: projection unovam >unovam >unova Anonymous
>>157074802 >>157074762 Thanks.
I should try playing Black or White. Or should I wait for the sequel?
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>>157074974 I say wait for the sequel.
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>>157074974 It's up to you. I thought BW were really amazing (though not without some flaws; very slow start, but things kick into gear after the 1st gym). BW2 fixes pretty much everything from the sound of it, but its a sequel, so you may want to play the original first. Otherwise it might feel really clunky if you ever decide to play it after BW2.
If that doesn't bother you though, totally go with BW2.
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>>157074974 If for whatever reason you care about the story, it would be worth it to play BW. If you don't care, wait like five days and pick up the sequel.